sir,kulang na lang magbuo ka ng sarili mong motor sa dami ng cons mo,pero bumili ka ng nk400 na di hamak dami ng cons..plus sa dami gusto mong ilagay sa nk450 dont expect na magiging parehas pa rin ang presyo nian sa market....
Para sa akin lang po... Kasama dun sa power to weight ratio yung gulong na niliitan nla pra bumaba ang weight. Overall upgrade sa 450 nk is meron syang tcs, slipperclutch pa. Increase engine pa, with lcd.. More on features po ang worth of upgrade..kung susumahin mo lahat ng upgrade features ng 450nk sa 400nk dn kumpara mo sa price interval nila i think worth it naman po hindi sya "sayang"..kaya po d masyadong malayu ang agwat ng price ng dalawa dahil dun lang nila binase ang price ng 450nk sa mga added upgrade features.. For my own perspective.. Ty
“Engine borrowed technology from KTM”??? Better research first bago magsalita Sir. If you don’t have an idea about the design of the 450Nk/Sr engine, then better not include it in your review.
KTM and CFMoto have been sharing tech and know-how since they became allies in the production of motorcycles. This is not uncommon strategy between manufacturers, not just the two aforementioned. This business strategy is also beneficial for the buyers. We get more options and a diverse range of tech and features. I am not literally saying that CFMoto took some of the blueprints of KTM and then made their engines, that is absurd, even for the dumbfounded skeptics. CFMoto and KTM are sharing knowledge and resources and of course materials and processes. I did my research Mister User. I know how to do one. Do you?
450NK/SR engine is 100% CF Moto design. Not borrowed from "KTM technology". You said in your review that the design was borrowed from "KTM Technology", that is why I told you to research first. With some bikes like the NK 800 and MT 800, KTM was part of their engines but with the 450NK you are wrong saying that it was borrowed from "KTM Technology". With your reply, so you mean, you know better than the designer himself? We have been discussing this engine with CF Moto since they released these units here in PH. Maybe your research was only through the net. Yes I know how to make engines. I've been making race engines for cars and motorcycles. And next time you do your review in the shop, better ask permission first so you can have access of the bikes and make a full review.
Thanks for your inputs. I was able to confirm the ktm-cfmoto collab on the 450 engine with a friend from overseas who happens to have insider info from KTM and that info I got from that person was a year ago. When I saw the release of the 450NK I remembered having that info from that person way way back so I had that light bulb moment of "oh okay, that was KTM's idea". The 450 engine concept, as my insider person said, was being developed by KTM for an "upgrade" for the RC platform but they did not go through with it. Since KTM has the collab thing going on with CFMoto, it was sort of a business move to have CFMoto launch a new bike with the 450 concept. And yes, CFMoto designed the engine but the knowledge and the know-how, process and tech, was in a way inspired by their collab with KTM. The word "borrowed" might have been my bad because I was trying to find a simple word that will fit the "clout" of social media. Sorry. But I do understand what is happening in the "business" of everything. I am an Economics major in UP Diliman and I have worked with the "corporate" world for 20 years so I know these "business" moves. And yeah, I also know engines because I built my own racecar, by myself, and I race my DIY racecar until 2019. I came from the car world/car scene so I know my way around the "stuff" with engines and what-not. Regarding the shop/store approval for the review, well yeah I can do that but I decided not to because I want my reviews to be raw and insightful. Every bike review is different from every other else so... Well I guess I will just yield to you as the better man, I guess, in this comment-lacing back-and-forth. But I stand by my review. Maybe CFMoto can let me ride the bike and then maybe I will add more depth into my review. But yeah, anyway, you do you, I do me. To his each own. It's just a matter of understanding that we live as a diverse species and we can never really truly agree on anything, at all.
@@ManCannotRideThank you. I just commented on your info about the engine because it sounded misleading, yes they have been partners in the business, but you have to consider that the 270 degree crank parallel twin was first made popular by Yamaha in 1995. And very soon, will be an official partner also of CF Moto this coming November. As I said, I only commented on the engine part because it was really not inspired from KTM Technology. I am also aware of the RC platform that KTM wanted to develop, KTM already used a 285 degree crank for their LC8c engines, this isn't quite 270 degrees, but it's conceptually similar. Again, if we are to think where it was "inspired", I guess it would be from their upcoming partner. Whoever the person shared you that information might be in the side of KTM, I can't blame you for that. I am not biased, but I share this here in your comment section so people can decide freely with the right information. Yes Motostrada welcomes people who want to make review of the bikes, just approach any of our staff and we will gladly assist you or whoever wants to make a video review so it can be more insightful. To end this, anyone is entitled to their own opinion, if you noticed I did not say anything about your other comments may it be good or bad, I just commented on the engine part you mentioned. I did not mean to offend you, as you said to each his own.
Hello Sir, Thank you po sa detailed honest review nyo. Helpful sya lalo na sa tulad kong naghahanap ng first big bike. Sana may follow up review po kayo dito with test drive and stuffs. thanks po!
You have a point, naiitindihan ko din na iba ang opinion mo about nk450. however the power and weight difference kasi ng 400 and 450 are super super magkalayo. 8 hp - 4 nm on the same rpm in a small bike is a big difference. Power alone is a big upgrade, but with the fork and suspension? For me siguro upgrade parin siya, yes it is 38mm but nk450 is lighter by 40kg. with the tires naman... Hmmm I don't really have a great opinion about it kasi most bikes in this category uses the same nk400 tire size, siguro they made it that small to create a WOW factor once they advertise the WEIGHT of the upcoming 450? hmm business moves hahaha. Me personally I'd love to see the nk400 engine on the same chasis of the nk450, a lower power engine on a lighter chasis will be the best bike for beginners sa higher displacement. CFmoto adevertisment strategy was and will be the main factor on how they got a better reputation for most of the chinese manufacturers. I've heard many complaints about the swingarm of the 450 series sa US and yes it's a major downgrade, 'cos that may cost you some limbs or life. It's one of the major factor why adobomoto sold his 450sr becauss of the bad swing arm. But overall 450 series is a great bike for its price, a little modifications would do enough like slip on, shock, tank grips, and if you'd like you can change the tire size. I personally don't own 1 but I guess the stock mags can survize on a +1 size?
Only TFT and the power to weight ratio are the notable upgrades? What about traction control and slipper clutch. I believe ur Nk400 doesnt have those. For someone who hasn’t fully experienced the bike…i think ur review sounds very negative 😅…”i would say yes, pro labag sa loob ko”. But I understand where u’r coming from. Sounds like u know tons about motorcycles sir. And u’r on the technical side of things 👍🏼.
Salamat sa feedback sir. I am not a fan of traction control and slipper clutch sa bikes with less than 70HP. I would love to have TC and slipper clutch with clutch assist sa mga bikes with over 100HP. Kaya hindi ko masyado pinansin na yun sa 450NK. I was doing the review as my own impressions based on my preferences. Pero tama ka, I have yet to experience the 450NK para magawan ko ng follow-up review. Someone will lend me his 450NK for a test ride soon. Kaya siguro naging masyadong negative ang review ko kasi I was expecting a lot from the bike. I prefer to focus on the technical aspects of the bike kasi yun ang hilig ko. For example, aesthetics, you will never hear me say anything about aesthetics kasi hindi ko hilig yun.
yamaha and cfmoto will now be business partners as well. in fact if you did your homework the pistons of the 450nk are marked with MT07 inside as we all know that engine is 270 crank as well tho the 450nk has a much smaller displacement. btw cfmoto never claimed that 450nk is an upgrade from the old nk fyi.
Bitter naman pagkacomparison. Hopefully. Ikaw nlng gumawa sarili mong motor, wake up. Loaded sa features at lumakas na c 450nk. Unang piga palang. Arangkada na. Nawala lng ung gusto mo sa 450. Much better kung magstay k nlng sa 400nk. Para lahat ng gusto andun 😊
yan ung first choice ko sir if ever na mapapabili nako ng entry level big bike ko, second is ung Bristol Assassin or Invictus, sana ma review mo din sir. Over all wala akong masasabing masama sa impressions mo, mas okay nga yun kase makikita talaga natin based sa mga may experienced sa mga ganito since newbies kami. Sa market kase puro magaganda lang sinasabi, dapat meron din nag rreview about ganto and after nila magamit like for a year or 6months. Sana sir Bristol naman pra macompare ko anong una kong bibilhin. Thank you power 😎
Salamat sir. Hindi ko na yata marereview ang ibang motor kasi banned na yata ako sa Caloocan hahaha kasi sa dami ng nagagalit kapag negative yung review, hehehe. Joke lang sir. Pero mukhang hindi ko na rin talaga marereview yung mga nasa casa kasi wala na nagpapahiram, unless bibili hahaha.
@@ManCannotRide Yun lang sir hehe pero sana sa mga ganyan maging open minded din sila e no wala namang perfect na motor, nasa owner ang perfect descision hehe. Sayang sir pero malay natin, mag aabang ako baka maka review ka hehe. Pawerr sir 😎
@@boyisog1872 Salamat sir. By Feb siguro makakaikot na ulit ako sa mga shops. Medyo toxic pa sa work ngayong Jan. Salamat sa pag-abang. Post agad ako kapag meron na new reviews.
dito ko nakita na di worth it na upgrade yan 450nk kapag 400NK user ka like my uncle sabi nya "dito lang ako sa 400NK ko di worth it" mas okay nalang daw na mag 800NK nalng sya yan talaga mtatawag na UPGRADE, pero for me na wala pa well 450NK choice ko or yung 450SS/SR, perfect na bike na si 400Nk kapag user kana talaga.
tama ka, if may nk400 kana, don't go for the 450 instead for 800, kung sana same platform lng sa nk400, but lighten and usd forks, panalo na sana kung ganon ginawa nila
Salamat sir. Pasensya na kasi hindi ako makahiram ng Assasin 400 sa Bristol. Wala akong powers of influence hehe. Susubukan ko ulit one time kapag nagawi sa Caloocan.
Di mo pa naman pala na test ride ung 450nk kung makapag commentary kau jan 😂. Natesting ko sya it was from a loaner bike. Ridden it for about 250km in 1 day. Kaya nabuo desisyon ko eto na kukunin ko hehe
1. Alam mo ba ang meaning ng "to each his own" or yung "preference" or yung "subjective opinion"? 2. Naintindihan mo ba ang video ko na sinabi ko na first impressions, showroom review, at sinabi ko na merong follow-uo review about riding the bike naman? Binigyan mo ako ng idea para sa sunod ko na video. Salamat.
sir new owner po ako ng nk450 5 days old. Pero pansin ko pag nagddownshift ako then bnblip ko ung throttle ( Sunod sunod po ako magblip , galing po kase sa Mio ) parang ncchoke ung makina, minsan po ay namamatay pa. sa riding style ko po ba un or may problema unit?
Mag trial and error ka sir. Subukan mo na wag na mag blip muna testingin mo kung mawawala ang issue. Kung hindi mawala ang issue kahit hindi ka nagblip, pwede mo ipascan muna sa diagnostics kung merong makikitang error code. Kung wala namang error code, pwede siguro gamit ka muna ng kilalang brand ng gasolina, 91 octane muna try mo for 100kms then check mo kung may issue pa din. Madami pa sir pwedeng subukan pero sa ngayon e eto muna subukan mo.
Oh the 450NK for what it is, is a good bike. I can recommend it because of its power to weight ratio. I am just doing the review based on my preferences if I will be the one to buy it in case it fits my needs. Yeah, it is a good bike and the price is reasonable. A new rider will not be intimidated by it and even veteran riders will appreciate its features. But to consider that it is an "upgrade" of the 400NK is a bit of a stretch for me just because I am a bit "specific" with suspension and performance aspects. I said in the video that since I have the 400NK, I really don't think I should buy the 450NK. I would rather step-up and buy maybe the 700CLX or the 800NK, which technically are the 690DUKE and the 790DUKE from KTM, respectively. But if I don't have the 400NK and then I need to choose between the 400NK and the 450NK, maybe I will consider the 450NK because it has more power and lighter. I will just upgrade the suspension separately.
@@ManCannotRide ah i see. so it's better but not enough to switch from 400NK. thanks for replying. yeah the 800NK looks great. i'd love to get it too but it's a little too powerful for me as a beginner. i'm also surprised that it doesn't have traction control. i'm choosing between the 450NK and duke 390. the 450NK has more HP and twin engine compared to the duke's single cylinder, better sounding exhaust, and a 270 degree crankshaft. but the duke has a quick shifter and auto blipper. if the dealer can put a quickshifter and blipper on the 450NK, then the 450NK looks like the better choice. somehow it's also much lower in price than the duke. i'm only a little worried about spare parts for the 450NK. don't want to wait weeks for parts to arrive if something breaks down. my country is really far from China so shipping would take long.
If you will choose between the 450NK and the 2023 Duke 390 then I will recommend the 450NK. The parts might take long for shipping but as long as your dealer is very helpful, you don't need to worry. But if you can wait for the 2024 Duke 390, then I will recommend that because it's a really great upgrade from the old 390 and it will be so much better than the 450NK.
@@ManCannotRide you just recommended both bikes 😅 but both bikes are not at local dealers yet here in the netherlands, i will probably just wait and test ride both before choosing. the 450NK will probably be my choice if i can get a quick shifter on it. more stable bike with twin engine and more enjoyable sound. also i save maybe 2000 euros.. i don't understand how the price can be so different when the 450 is a bit better bike.
@@donderstorm1845 Oh I was recommending the 2024 Duke 390 and it is so much better than the 2023 Duke 390. But the 450NK is a good bike. I was just nitpicking on some of its features that did not impress me.
Parang na bash mo ng husto yun 450NK. Sana sinakyan mo muna bago mo nireview. Kaw na din nagsabi mababago pa ang review mo pag nasakyan mo na. Think Makina, Jao Moto or Motodeal how they review bikes.
Napansin ko lang po sa way ng review mo, mataas masyado standard mo. That's a budget 450cc bike for those who want to have a express way legal and higher cc bike na they can afford. 😁✌️
@@bisyapusa5293 Yayain mo na lang ako maam kapag ride ka na, baka libre, makasama. Or kapag makakatakas ako, sabihan kita hehehe para meron ako ituturo na nagyaya sa akin kapag hinanap na ako sa bahay, hahahaha, joke lang.
To be honest, kung hindi ko ikukumpara sa ibang bikes ang Z400, hindi ko siya magugustuhan. Kung merong magbibigay sa akin ng Z400, I will immediately convert it to a Ninja 400 or a cafe racer custom bike. And to be honest some more, I don't like the Z series of Kawasaki. I prefer the ZX series, the 636 and the 10R. For impressions, the Z400 is a comfortable version of the Ninja400. It has a more relaxed riding position. That's it. The Z400 is a good bike but personally I am not really interested in it in it's factory stock trim.
Medyo nagugustuhan ko na tong channel mo dahil technical ka. Sa wheels medyo disagree lang ako dahil narrower wheels equate to better handling. Nasanay ka lang siguro sa wider tires dahil sa mga middleweights mo at malalapad talaga pero for me na nakagamit din ng liter bike and current bike ko na ninja 400, mas gusto ko ang narrow tires like 140-150. Makes the bike nimble. Chaka less cost un. The rest agree ako sa pov mo. Yung swing arm lalo na. Napoint out din ni adobomoto un. Ang sagwa kadire. Parang ginawa sa junk shop. Talagang nagfocus lang sila sa engine for the upgrade TFT and tech package para macontrol ang cost.
Thanks brother. Meron na ako nagawa na video dati pa saying na narrower tires are really better for agility and handling compared to wider tires. Maganda yung point mo na yun. Sa corner entry, mas flickable ang narrower tires at mas responsive to inputs kapag aayusin mo yung mid-corner lines mo. Sa corner exit naman doon mas lamang ang wider tires kasi they can handle more aggressive power when you open the throttle too quickly. Yeah, Adobomoto reviewed the 450SS which is the 450SR naman sa Pinas and they have the same swing arm as the 450NK. Nakakadismaya tol. To the point na nakakahiya yung build quality ng swing arm. Sayang. It's a deal-breaker for me. Parang bigla na lang kakalas yung welds kapag medyo napabiglang bagsak yung rear end. Thanks again bro. Ride safely.
@@ManCannotRide yeah pansin ko din yan sa exit sa corners mas stable ang zx10r na nagamit ko. Di lang ako sanay sa malalaki dahil parang i have to man handle the bike to turn sobrang active counter steering to compensate. Going back, nice points on the intricate details that you pointed out kasama yung shocks. Kelangan irepack un ng ibang fork oil weight depende sa preference mo and yung amount na nilalagay for the fork travel. I saw your cable ties sa forks so good job. Yan ang tamang pag sukat ng play talaga.
@@netxzero3993 Hindi din user friendly yung access sa pag adjust ng preload. Dukutan kung dukutan. Watch my 800NK video mas malala ang shock ng 800NK. Nakatago na parang diwata sa bundok. Mukhang mababaklas mo kalahati ng motor para lang iadjust ang preload ng shock. Abd yes talagang goodluck na lang sa pagservice ng shock oil kasi sobrang matrabaho magbaklas ng shocks ng 450NK at 800NK. I have not tried riding the 450NK so hindi ko pa din malalaman kung okay ba yung factory setup ng kanyang suspension. I believe they set it up for 2-up riding.
Ah naku sir, na-prank ka, hehe, yun yung pillion seat na inalis ko lang yung foam tapos pinatong ko lang yung isa kong small accessory bag para meron ako lalagyan ng powerbank at tools. Cool ba sir? Salamat. Tipid-meals na diskarte lang yan hehe.
Kung 400nk na katawan tapos makina ng 450nk, mas lalakas ang power potential nung ganung bike since lamang sa displacement ang 450nk engine. Mas maganda pa ang tunog kasi 270 degrees crank.
Yan ang first impressions ko as a buyer, para sa akin ang mga kinilatis ko sa unang tingin. Pero meron akong second video, panoorin mo din sana, na puro positives naman, yun naman ang para sa ibang prospect buyers. Maraming salamat sa feedback.
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sir,kulang na lang magbuo ka ng sarili mong motor sa dami ng cons mo,pero bumili ka ng nk400 na di hamak dami ng cons..plus sa dami gusto mong ilagay sa nk450 dont expect na magiging parehas pa rin ang presyo nian sa market....
Para sa akin lang po... Kasama dun sa power to weight ratio yung gulong na niliitan nla pra bumaba ang weight. Overall upgrade sa 450 nk is meron syang tcs, slipperclutch pa. Increase engine pa, with lcd.. More on features po ang worth of upgrade..kung susumahin mo lahat ng upgrade features ng 450nk sa 400nk dn kumpara mo sa price interval nila i think worth it naman po hindi sya "sayang"..kaya po d masyadong malayu ang agwat ng price ng dalawa dahil dun lang nila binase ang price ng 450nk sa mga added upgrade features.. For my own perspective.. Ty
“Engine borrowed technology from KTM”??? Better research first bago magsalita Sir. If you don’t have an idea about the design of the 450Nk/Sr engine, then better not include it in your review.
KTM and CFMoto have been sharing tech and know-how since they became allies in the production of motorcycles. This is not uncommon strategy between manufacturers, not just the two aforementioned. This business strategy is also beneficial for the buyers. We get more options and a diverse range of tech and features. I am not literally saying that CFMoto took some of the blueprints of KTM and then made their engines, that is absurd, even for the dumbfounded skeptics. CFMoto and KTM are sharing knowledge and resources and of course materials and processes.
I did my research Mister User. I know how to do one. Do you?
450NK/SR engine is 100% CF Moto design. Not borrowed from "KTM technology". You said in your review that the design was borrowed from "KTM Technology", that is why I told you to research first. With some bikes like the NK 800 and MT 800, KTM was part of their engines but with the 450NK you are wrong saying that it was borrowed from "KTM Technology". With your reply, so you mean, you know better than the designer himself? We have been discussing this engine with CF Moto since they released these units here in PH. Maybe your research was only through the net. Yes I know how to make engines. I've been making race engines for cars and motorcycles. And next time you do your review in the shop, better ask permission first so you can have access of the bikes and make a full review.
Thanks for your inputs. I was able to confirm the ktm-cfmoto collab on the 450 engine with a friend from overseas who happens to have insider info from KTM and that info I got from that person was a year ago. When I saw the release of the 450NK I remembered having that info from that person way way back so I had that light bulb moment of "oh okay, that was KTM's idea". The 450 engine concept, as my insider person said, was being developed by KTM for an "upgrade" for the RC platform but they did not go through with it. Since KTM has the collab thing going on with CFMoto, it was sort of a business move to have CFMoto launch a new bike with the 450 concept. And yes, CFMoto designed the engine but the knowledge and the know-how, process and tech, was in a way inspired by their collab with KTM. The word "borrowed" might have been my bad because I was trying to find a simple word that will fit the "clout" of social media. Sorry. But I do understand what is happening in the "business" of everything. I am an Economics major in UP Diliman and I have worked with the "corporate" world for 20 years so I know these "business" moves. And yeah, I also know engines because I built my own racecar, by myself, and I race my DIY racecar until 2019. I came from the car world/car scene so I know my way around the "stuff" with engines and what-not. Regarding the shop/store approval for the review, well yeah I can do that but I decided not to because I want my reviews to be raw and insightful. Every bike review is different from every other else so...
Well I guess I will just yield to you as the better man, I guess, in this comment-lacing back-and-forth. But I stand by my review. Maybe CFMoto can let me ride the bike and then maybe I will add more depth into my review. But yeah, anyway, you do you, I do me. To his each own. It's just a matter of understanding that we live as a diverse species and we can never really truly agree on anything, at all.
@@ManCannotRideThank you. I just commented on your info about the engine because it sounded misleading, yes they have been partners in the business, but you have to consider that the 270 degree crank parallel twin was first made popular by Yamaha in 1995. And very soon, will be an official partner also of CF Moto this coming November. As I said, I only commented on the engine part because it was really not inspired from KTM Technology. I am also aware of the RC platform that KTM wanted to develop, KTM already used a 285 degree crank for their LC8c engines, this isn't quite 270 degrees, but it's conceptually similar. Again, if we are to think where it was "inspired", I guess it would be from their upcoming partner. Whoever the person shared you that information might be in the side of KTM, I can't blame you for that. I am not biased, but I share this here in your comment section so people can decide freely with the right information.
Yes Motostrada welcomes people who want to make review of the bikes, just approach any of our staff and we will gladly assist you or whoever wants to make a video review so it can be more insightful.
To end this, anyone is entitled to their own opinion, if you noticed I did not say anything about your other comments may it be good or bad, I just commented on the engine part you mentioned. I did not mean to offend you, as you said to each his own.
i mean they do have a collaboration going on no? and they both come out with the same engine?
Hello Sir, Thank you po sa detailed honest review nyo. Helpful sya lalo na sa tulad kong naghahanap ng first big bike. Sana may follow up review po kayo dito with test drive and stuffs. thanks po!
Sige sir sana magawan ko paraan soon na makasakay ng 450nk para makumpleto ko na ang review ko.
You have a point, naiitindihan ko din na iba ang opinion mo about nk450. however the power and weight difference kasi ng 400 and 450 are super super magkalayo. 8 hp - 4 nm on the same rpm in a small bike is a big difference. Power alone is a big upgrade, but with the fork and suspension? For me siguro upgrade parin siya, yes it is 38mm but nk450 is lighter by 40kg. with the tires naman... Hmmm I don't really have a great opinion about it kasi most bikes in this category uses the same nk400 tire size, siguro they made it that small to create a WOW factor once they advertise the WEIGHT of the upcoming 450? hmm business moves hahaha. Me personally I'd love to see the nk400 engine on the same chasis of the nk450, a lower power engine on a lighter chasis will be the best bike for beginners sa higher displacement. CFmoto adevertisment strategy was and will be the main factor on how they got a better reputation for most of the chinese manufacturers. I've heard many complaints about the swingarm of the 450 series sa US and yes it's a major downgrade, 'cos that may cost you some limbs or life. It's one of the major factor why adobomoto sold his 450sr becauss of the bad swing arm. But overall 450 series is a great bike for its price, a little modifications would do enough like slip on, shock, tank grips, and if you'd like you can change the tire size. I personally don't own 1 but I guess the stock mags can survize on a +1 size?
Thanks for the valueable inputs. Sana lahat ng nagbibigay ng counter-comments e katulad mo kapatid, yung may pakinabang ang sinasabi. Ride safely sir.
Only TFT and the power to weight ratio are the notable upgrades? What about traction control and slipper clutch. I believe ur Nk400 doesnt have those.
For someone who hasn’t fully experienced the bike…i think ur review sounds very negative 😅…”i would say yes, pro labag sa loob ko”.
But I understand where u’r coming from. Sounds like u know tons about motorcycles sir. And u’r on the technical side of things 👍🏼.
Salamat sa feedback sir. I am not a fan of traction control and slipper clutch sa bikes with less than 70HP. I would love to have TC and slipper clutch with clutch assist sa mga bikes with over 100HP. Kaya hindi ko masyado pinansin na yun sa 450NK. I was doing the review as my own impressions based on my preferences.
Pero tama ka, I have yet to experience the 450NK para magawan ko ng follow-up review. Someone will lend me his 450NK for a test ride soon. Kaya siguro naging masyadong negative ang review ko kasi I was expecting a lot from the bike.
I prefer to focus on the technical aspects of the bike kasi yun ang hilig ko. For example, aesthetics, you will never hear me say anything about aesthetics kasi hindi ko hilig yun.
@@ManCannotRide you have pretty nice bikes though! Especially the XSR 900 hehe! Rs always sir! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@@casualridingtv Bro, how I wish the Vulcan and the XSR900 are my bikes but they belong to my neighbor/friend.
@@ManCannotRide you still get to ride it though for sure hehe! 👍🏼
@@casualridingtv Yeah, I have to. I just cannot find the time yet but I already have someone who will lend me his bike.
yamaha and cfmoto will now be business partners as well. in fact if you did your homework the pistons of the 450nk are marked with MT07 inside as we all know that engine is 270 crank as well tho the 450nk has a much smaller displacement. btw cfmoto never claimed that 450nk is an upgrade from the old nk fyi.
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Bitter naman pagkacomparison. Hopefully. Ikaw nlng gumawa sarili mong motor, wake up. Loaded sa features at lumakas na c 450nk. Unang piga palang. Arangkada na. Nawala lng ung gusto mo sa 450. Much better kung magstay k nlng sa 400nk. Para lahat ng gusto andun 😊
Thank you for the insight Sir!
Salamat din sir.
yan ung first choice ko sir if ever na mapapabili nako ng entry level big bike ko, second is ung Bristol Assassin or Invictus, sana ma review mo din sir. Over all wala akong masasabing masama sa impressions mo, mas okay nga yun kase makikita talaga natin based sa mga may experienced sa mga ganito since newbies kami. Sa market kase puro magaganda lang sinasabi, dapat meron din nag rreview about ganto and after nila magamit like for a year or 6months. Sana sir Bristol naman pra macompare ko anong una kong bibilhin. Thank you power 😎
Salamat sir. Hindi ko na yata marereview ang ibang motor kasi banned na yata ako sa Caloocan hahaha kasi sa dami ng nagagalit kapag negative yung review, hehehe. Joke lang sir. Pero mukhang hindi ko na rin talaga marereview yung mga nasa casa kasi wala na nagpapahiram, unless bibili hahaha.
@@ManCannotRide Yun lang sir hehe pero sana sa mga ganyan maging open minded din sila e no wala namang perfect na motor, nasa owner ang perfect descision hehe. Sayang sir pero malay natin, mag aabang ako baka maka review ka hehe. Pawerr sir 😎
@@boyisog1872 Salamat sir. By Feb siguro makakaikot na ulit ako sa mga shops. Medyo toxic pa sa work ngayong Jan. Salamat sa pag-abang. Post agad ako kapag meron na new reviews.
@@ManCannotRide Yown abangan ko yan sir. Mga entry level sana para mas makapili 👌
dito ko nakita na di worth it na upgrade yan 450nk kapag 400NK user ka like my uncle sabi nya "dito lang ako sa 400NK ko di worth it" mas okay nalang daw na mag 800NK nalng sya yan talaga mtatawag na UPGRADE, pero for me na wala pa well 450NK choice ko or yung 450SS/SR, perfect na bike na si 400Nk kapag user kana talaga.
Tama ka dyan para sa may 400nk.. pero for my planning to sell my ktm rc200 then jump to nk 450
tama ka, if may nk400 kana, don't go for the 450 instead for 800,
kung sana same platform lng sa nk400, but lighten and usd forks, panalo na sana kung ganon ginawa nila
rason ng mga vobong nakabili ng nk400 bago ilabas ang 450
Which will you choose nk450 or clc450?
@@Chromosome1919 I will choose the 450NK. I am not into the cruiser-type of riding. The CLC is also too low for my taste, and too small.
@@ManCannotRide thanks for your insight bro
Planning to sell my nkv2 sana to get this 450cc pero mukhang di n matutuloy hehe..anyway congrats bro sana lumaki pa bahay mo
malaki na bahay ko maraming kwarto at bording hauz, im looking for cfmoto 1000sr v4 engine haay
Kala ko si Zac ng Makina nagsasalita sa umpisa. haha MaCannot.
Sir, nice review. Please review also bristol assasin 400, planning to buy one
Salamat sir. Pasensya na kasi hindi ako makahiram ng Assasin 400 sa Bristol. Wala akong powers of influence hehe. Susubukan ko ulit one time kapag nagawi sa Caloocan.
Di mo pa naman pala na test ride ung 450nk kung makapag commentary kau jan 😂. Natesting ko sya it was from a loaner bike. Ridden it for about 250km in 1 day. Kaya nabuo desisyon ko eto na kukunin ko hehe
1. Alam mo ba ang meaning ng "to each his own" or yung "preference" or yung "subjective opinion"?
2. Naintindihan mo ba ang video ko na sinabi ko na first impressions, showroom review, at sinabi ko na merong follow-uo review about riding the bike naman?
Binigyan mo ako ng idea para sa sunod ko na video. Salamat.
sir new owner po ako ng nk450 5 days old. Pero pansin ko pag nagddownshift ako then bnblip ko ung throttle ( Sunod sunod po ako magblip , galing po kase sa Mio ) parang ncchoke ung makina, minsan po ay namamatay pa. sa riding style ko po ba un or may problema unit?
Mag trial and error ka sir. Subukan mo na wag na mag blip muna testingin mo kung mawawala ang issue. Kung hindi mawala ang issue kahit hindi ka nagblip, pwede mo ipascan muna sa diagnostics kung merong makikitang error code. Kung wala namang error code, pwede siguro gamit ka muna ng kilalang brand ng gasolina, 91 octane muna try mo for 100kms then check mo kung may issue pa din. Madami pa sir pwedeng subukan pero sa ngayon e eto muna subukan mo.
Hello sir, i am planning to get an nk450 as my final bike, mas okay ba na i get an nk400 instead of nk450? Mejo conflicted kasi ako huhu
Get the 450 na lang sir. Nauubos na pyesa at mods na pang 400nk.
@@ManCannotRide thank you so much sir! I have decided na talaga
@@jonathanrubi7174 Congrats sa new bike sir.
would you say it's a bad bike? or just not very impressive upgrade compared to 400nk, but still a good bike?
Oh the 450NK for what it is, is a good bike. I can recommend it because of its power to weight ratio. I am just doing the review based on my preferences if I will be the one to buy it in case it fits my needs. Yeah, it is a good bike and the price is reasonable. A new rider will not be intimidated by it and even veteran riders will appreciate its features.
But to consider that it is an "upgrade" of the 400NK is a bit of a stretch for me just because I am a bit "specific" with suspension and performance aspects.
I said in the video that since I have the 400NK, I really don't think I should buy the 450NK. I would rather step-up and buy maybe the 700CLX or the 800NK, which technically are the 690DUKE and the 790DUKE from KTM, respectively.
But if I don't have the 400NK and then I need to choose between the 400NK and the 450NK, maybe I will consider the 450NK because it has more power and lighter. I will just upgrade the suspension separately.
@@ManCannotRide ah i see. so it's better but not enough to switch from 400NK. thanks for replying. yeah the 800NK looks great. i'd love to get it too but it's a little too powerful for me as a beginner. i'm also surprised that it doesn't have traction control.
i'm choosing between the 450NK and duke 390. the 450NK has more HP and twin engine compared to the duke's single cylinder, better sounding exhaust, and a 270 degree crankshaft. but the duke has a quick shifter and auto blipper. if the dealer can put a quickshifter and blipper on the 450NK, then the 450NK looks like the better choice. somehow it's also much lower in price than the duke.
i'm only a little worried about spare parts for the 450NK. don't want to wait weeks for parts to arrive if something breaks down. my country is really far from China so shipping would take long.
If you will choose between the 450NK and the 2023 Duke 390 then I will recommend the 450NK. The parts might take long for shipping but as long as your dealer is very helpful, you don't need to worry.
But if you can wait for the 2024 Duke 390, then I will recommend that because it's a really great upgrade from the old 390 and it will be so much better than the 450NK.
@@ManCannotRide you just recommended both bikes 😅
but both bikes are not at local dealers yet here in the netherlands, i will probably just wait and test ride both before choosing. the 450NK will probably be my choice if i can get a quick shifter on it. more stable bike with twin engine and more enjoyable sound.
also i save maybe 2000 euros.. i don't understand how the price can be so different when the 450 is a bit better bike.
@@donderstorm1845 Oh I was recommending the 2024 Duke 390 and it is so much better than the 2023 Duke 390. But the 450NK is a good bike. I was just nitpicking on some of its features that did not impress me.
Parang na bash mo ng husto yun 450NK. Sana sinakyan mo muna bago mo nireview. Kaw na din nagsabi mababago pa ang review mo pag nasakyan mo na. Think Makina, Jao Moto or Motodeal how they review bikes.
Napansin ko lang po sa way ng review mo, mataas masyado standard mo. That's a budget 450cc bike for those who want to have a express way legal and higher cc bike na they can afford. 😁✌️
Hi Fave Chinita Moto. Salamat sa feedback. Hope to see you sa rides so we can share more insights tungkol sa riding.
@@ManCannotRide Hi po, hopefully to see you too sa rides.
@@bisyapusa5293 Yayain mo na lang ako maam kapag ride ka na, baka libre, makasama. Or kapag makakatakas ako, sabihan kita hehehe para meron ako ituturo na nagyaya sa akin kapag hinanap na ako sa bahay, hahahaha, joke lang.
@@ManCannotRide 🤣🤣👍
Laki ng problema m😂 Wag k bumili ng 450 para di kanaa stress
450cc na yan tpos pinagaan pa compare nyu sa nk400 na mabigat
Sir pareview naman naman ng z400 2023 vs nk450
Salamat sir sa suggestion. Sa sunod na bisita ko sa Wheeltek makukuhanan ko ng pictures yung Z400 para magawan ko ng comparison to the 450NK.
Z400 paps anu nmn yung first impression mo?
To be honest, kung hindi ko ikukumpara sa ibang bikes ang Z400, hindi ko siya magugustuhan. Kung merong magbibigay sa akin ng Z400, I will immediately convert it to a Ninja 400 or a cafe racer custom bike. And to be honest some more, I don't like the Z series of Kawasaki. I prefer the ZX series, the 636 and the 10R.
For impressions, the Z400 is a comfortable version of the Ninja400. It has a more relaxed riding position. That's it. The Z400 is a good bike but personally I am not really interested in it in it's factory stock trim.
Medyo nagugustuhan ko na tong channel mo dahil technical ka. Sa wheels medyo disagree lang ako dahil narrower wheels equate to better handling. Nasanay ka lang siguro sa wider tires dahil sa mga middleweights mo at malalapad talaga pero for me na nakagamit din ng liter bike and current bike ko na ninja 400, mas gusto ko ang narrow tires like 140-150. Makes the bike nimble. Chaka less cost un. The rest agree ako sa pov mo. Yung swing arm lalo na. Napoint out din ni adobomoto un. Ang sagwa kadire. Parang ginawa sa junk shop. Talagang nagfocus lang sila sa engine for the upgrade TFT and tech package para macontrol ang cost.
Thanks brother. Meron na ako nagawa na video dati pa saying na narrower tires are really better for agility and handling compared to wider tires. Maganda yung point mo na yun. Sa corner entry, mas flickable ang narrower tires at mas responsive to inputs kapag aayusin mo yung mid-corner lines mo. Sa corner exit naman doon mas lamang ang wider tires kasi they can handle more aggressive power when you open the throttle too quickly. Yeah, Adobomoto reviewed the 450SS which is the 450SR naman sa Pinas and they have the same swing arm as the 450NK. Nakakadismaya tol. To the point na nakakahiya yung build quality ng swing arm. Sayang. It's a deal-breaker for me. Parang bigla na lang kakalas yung welds kapag medyo napabiglang bagsak yung rear end. Thanks again bro. Ride safely.
@@ManCannotRide yeah pansin ko din yan sa exit sa corners mas stable ang zx10r na nagamit ko. Di lang ako sanay sa malalaki dahil parang i have to man handle the bike to turn sobrang active counter steering to compensate. Going back, nice points on the intricate details that you pointed out kasama yung shocks. Kelangan irepack un ng ibang fork oil weight depende sa preference mo and yung amount na nilalagay for the fork travel. I saw your cable ties sa forks so good job. Yan ang tamang pag sukat ng play talaga.
@@netxzero3993 Hindi din user friendly yung access sa pag adjust ng preload. Dukutan kung dukutan. Watch my 800NK video mas malala ang shock ng 800NK. Nakatago na parang diwata sa bundok. Mukhang mababaklas mo kalahati ng motor para lang iadjust ang preload ng shock. Abd yes talagang goodluck na lang sa pagservice ng shock oil kasi sobrang matrabaho magbaklas ng shocks ng 450NK at 800NK. I have not tried riding the 450NK so hindi ko pa din malalaman kung okay ba yung factory setup ng kanyang suspension. I believe they set it up for 2-up riding.
sir ano tawag ng parang carrier sa pilion seat? ang ganda
Yung sa 450NK sir? Hindi ko sir napansin na merong parang carrier, sorry.
@@ManCannotRide sa NK400 mo ata yun sir. yung nasa pillion mo @ 0:38 mins. idk if carrier ba sya or seat cushion. cool lng tignan hehe
Ah naku sir, na-prank ka, hehe, yun yung pillion seat na inalis ko lang yung foam tapos pinatong ko lang yung isa kong small accessory bag para meron ako lalagyan ng powerbank at tools. Cool ba sir? Salamat. Tipid-meals na diskarte lang yan hehe.
@@ManCannotRide ohhhh astig! sana may gumawa ng rack na pwede ilagay si pillion. ang cool kasi tignan.
Alam ko sir meron na nakasubok nun at yung meron na din gumawa ng pillion seat cowl. Nakalimutan ko lang kung saan ko nakita yun.
Parang ginagaya mo si Zach. Ok narin... keep it up.
kaw na mag engineer 😂
450 na makina sa body ng nk400 angas non, diko bet yung design nang nk450.
ma add ko lang 17L fuel tank.
Kung 400nk na katawan tapos makina ng 450nk, mas lalakas ang power potential nung ganung bike since lamang sa displacement ang 450nk engine. Mas maganda pa ang tunog kasi 270 degrees crank.
Puro Ka cons😅 wag ganon ma distract o ma disappoint mga bibili haist
Yan ang first impressions ko as a buyer, para sa akin ang mga kinilatis ko sa unang tingin. Pero meron akong second video, panoorin mo din sana, na puro positives naman, yun naman ang para sa ibang prospect buyers. Maraming salamat sa feedback.
NK400: heavy, weak, overpriced and not reliable tapos mag nk400 kapa? tanga no na nyan 😂😂😂😂
Natutuwa ako sa mga comments mo. Pinapaalala mo sa akin na madami pa din palang mahina ang comprehension at kulang na kulang sa critical thinking and logical understanding. Keep it up. More power sa ignorance mo and apparent lack of insightful processing of thoughts and ideas. Who knows, konting comments mo pa baka mag-subscribe na ako sa channel mo.
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@@ManCannotRideyes we are clout chasher
exactly, ang bobo ng context walang laman vlog nya 😂😂😂
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@@ManCannotRide ikaw ayusin mo muka mo may ood na dala ng katandaan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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