Indiana Jones and The Dial of Destiny Trailer: My Thoughts
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The heroes riding off into the sunset in The Last Crusade was a perfect ending for Indy. Nothing exists after that point.
The young Indy series is still cannon tho
@@nickiannucci7001 I forgot about that series. Wasn't bad.
Exactly end on a really high note!
He is 21-22years older ,79, than his dad,57-58, when Connery filmed his scenes
100% correct.
In like 1999 Conan had a joke that the next movie would be called "Indiana Jones and the comfy recliner" and now, here we are.
Raiders of the Lost Zimmer Frame, but yes the same joke....
Still a better title than "Dial of Destiny" I cringed when I heard it from a friend. I though he was kidding....I really didn't believe him.
I can just picture him doing his "live via sattlelite" interview with Harison Ford about the movie with the talking lips. Those were always so great, especially the Arnold Schwarzenegger ones.
Around 2005 when it really looked like they really were finally going to make a fourth one (after years of tease), my favorite fake title was Indiana Jones and the Pain of Arthritis.
I just feel a sense of dread.
I think they will kill Indy.
After humiliating him, of course.
th-cam.com/video/TK9yLHXDsrM/w-d-xo.html It's going to be this all over again. Only this time it'll be Spielberg, James Mangold, and Kathleen Kennedy gang raping Indiana Jones
But, that's what feminazis do! It's thier whole reason for being.
It’s the Disney way!
WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT A STRONG FLAWLESS FEMALE CHARACTER WILL TAKE HIS PLACE
*that's what's going to happen...or that he'll be an invalid in a nursing home who is just so far gone mentally that he does not know one reality from what his withering mind and memory has created*
It really comes to this: I don’t trust Disney. They’ve destroyed just about everything else they’ve touched.
Exactly! forget the age and the story-line.
Who cares. Itll be a massive hit
@@Immortal_Liberty LOL, ok disney shill
@@Immortal_Liberty yeah, with the brain-dead sheeple known as normies and the woke sjw's.
TRUE.
This film will suck. It's produced by Kuntleen Kennedy. Need I say more?
It will be a woke and radical feminist piece of trash that should be avoided at all costs
The goal from Disney is not to simply destroy a popular hero... the goal is first to cash in on nostalgia, then pervert them into something horrific, then finally to replace them with someone we won't care about at the end of the movie. Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel, Tolkien... same pattern. Cash-in, pervert, replace.
The problem Disney has is the Indy character is identified by the audience with Ford, he can't be changed out like a James Bond. Corporate Disney also has a big investment with Ford as this character in their parks, rides, and merchandising. The series ends, but the hero has to live on in the imagination of the audience, and park goers, in some form, hence the time travel leading to an ending where the character lives on in the past. I hope they make the creative effort with this movie, and it not just be a cash grab.
@@bernieschiff5919 recastcast, reboot, remake with New Actor with Fords likness in 5 years maybe
My prediction is that Phoebe Waller Bridge's character will become Indy's replacement, an inferior Lara Croft.
Think about this: what if she is the villain? (revealed late in the film)
Claps back!
The rumor is so. Much. Worse
It's the conventional wisdom.
@@TheChadTI I know bro... I'm scared!
I lost hope in Disney ever making another good film. You don't lose 1.5 billion dollars in one quarter with any level of talent and effort.
*think of it as a massive tax write off and you'll be as close to the truth as they would likely admit*
The problem is that they live in an echo chamber! Everything they're doing is stunning, brave, and groundbreaking... unless you're the audience.
The Menu was great
Dianwy made Mary Poppins Returns and Christopher Robin in 2018 , Aladdin, Lion King, Frozen 2 ,Dumbo etc in 2019, and many more since then. and countless more films, not just those .disney literally makes amazing films and some very rare poor ones
@@marcuswestcott masses love it actually, you ARE the vast minority
I think this movie was allowed to be made in order to make Kingdom of the Crystal Skull look like a goddamn masterpiece.
No, it was made so Kathleen Kennedy could stroke her own ego.
To be fair, outside of the rantings about Shia, Crystal Skull is a decently fun time.
Being made 10+ years ago also means it was made in practically an entire different era compared to the woke swill that Hollyweird is now. I really have no enthusiasm or excitement to even touch Indy 5.
@@OtterloopB Shia was miscast, and should not have went for Aliens.
Indiana Jones is supernatural, not UFO/Alien/Scifi.
also, Communists are not as good villains as the Nazis.
With some editing it could be a good movie but on second thoughts? Nah. It sucks. The Russians aren't scarey, the chase scenes are bad and the CGI is bad even for it's day. Spielberg should have gone with a Atlantis connection which could have lead to a direct sequel in the series vs bringing in ancient aliens. I'm guessing he smoked some really good weed.
I wish his son returned. I like Shia as his son.
For those wondering, the "Dial of Destiny" is a bar of soap that is so powerful it erases you in the past when you wash with it.
Will it at least smell nice?
@@johannesseyfried7933 It's Dial, so yes.
Pretty good I see what you did there! I wonder how many people know this movie has time travel in it and that Indy get erased literally from history leaving the woman to take up the mantle of Indiana Jones? If the rumors are true then Disney can burn in hell and take Kathleen Kennedy with it!
Time to start with a 'clean' slate! XD
@@Justatackit not what the script is about at all. Except the time travel bit, yes. You were given bs from people who know nothing. I work in the post-production department. Indy is very much alive and in tact and has more heroics under his belt and humanity remembers it all, so don't buy the bs blindly.
This is a Disney film, wokeness is guaranteed.
🤮
Femputer will free the women from Harrison Ford's cruel oppression.
And in the ensuing woke follow up movies - profits are the only thing not guaranteed.
They suck so bad man
What? It's lucasfilm and the first 4 were paramount
I thought this movie should be about Indy being old, but needing to help his son. Like he helped his father in the last crusade. It could have been a good twist
Pfff. Male heroes don't have "sons" taking up their mantles anymore. You'll get a lesbian daughter/protegee or a gay trans otherkin.
Any single one of us could come up with a decent plot.
When will we learn to stop getting suckered and move on?
@@thibaldus3 🤣🤣Spot on!
Suckered...? I don't think any of us are gonna buy a ticket for this steaming pile of Wokeist wankage. I'd guess most of us have moved beyond caring about Hollywood.
How then are we getting suckered?
Lol. No. Labeof was crap and this is a time travel film where na*is go back to change events, we see new events transpire in the 30s . That is incredible. Multiverse and timelines born...movies and films, x-men, avengers, spidey, terminator etc all do it. Loki dtc. Time to do it here too
Just like how Star Wars Episodes 7-9 made people appreciate Episode 1-3 more, Dial of Destiny will make people appreciate Kingdom of the Crystal Skull more.
Because its at least made by the creators
Shia LeBeoff was an incredibly poor casting choice, though.
If you haven't watched temple of doom in a while do it.
I definitely got a new appreciation but I did like it from the rip.
Star Wars Episodes 7-9? I do not recognize any such movies as legitimate.
It'a already happening LoL I saw a video "Is CS Really That Bad?" Of course it wasn't but here we are.
What happened to Indy's son? He doesn't need a goddaughter.
The issue is that sons are male (usually… though apparently that is in doubt in this modern world) and we aren’t allowed to have that sort of character anymore because every male hero is a simply a missed opportunity to have an idealized female hero.
@@KyLewin white man bad - disney
It's Shia Labuff is the issue and people hated his character from what I remember
@@middlethenerd A recast would have been easy (he's supposed to be older). No, I think that the other commenters are right: no more straight male descendants for old male heroes.
I thought PWB was on board as a writer.......wonder if she wrote herself in.
The Grim Reaper meme has reached another door.
That comment is everything!
It won't be long before he/she knocks on Kathleen Kennedy's door - sooner rather than later, I hope.
Indy: "Our worst fears have been realized.
Somehow, Belloq has returned"
The Voller character is based on Wernher von Braun, no doubt.
At any rate, The Last Crusade had the perfect ending with all 3 men riding off into the sunset. The franchise was a product of the pre-CGI 80's and it really should have ended there.
It was 4 men riding in the sunset
@@hannsherzog1072. “We named the dog Indians!”
@@hannsherzog1072 I was just testing you. Very good! You know your Indy history well... (yeah, that's it!) I might have to rewatch it.
80s films had lots of CGI,dude, Indy films too. Tron,blade runner, robocop, terminator, abyss, ghostbusters, star trek, star wars , gremlins, E.T. and countless more.
Von Braun was a damned national hero.
Kathleen Kennedy is the Dementor of your nostalgia, sucking the life and soul out of it.
Im stealing this comment
I think what we're discovering is there are two versions of "bad sequel". There is "this didn't live up to the potential set by the original" (Terminator 3) and "this absolutely sucked and completely killed any reason for me to watch the original ever again" (Terminator Genisys).
Great analogy!
Allen. - Pretty darn good.
Aliens - Freaking Excellent!
Allen 3 - A damnable abomination!
@@jmchez You think that until you watch Alien Resurrection.
No Dark Fate was worse
@@kevburk1 yes i can watch T3 and enjoy it for what it is, a mediocre sequel. Dark Fate was just rubbish
Given the rumor’s apparently checking out, if they completely prove true (young Indy sacrificing himself…wiping both old and young Indy from existence, leaving PWB to take up his whip and fedora…), Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is going to look like Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Relax, bub. Ford was nowhere near 80 when filming this. You realize he looks 60-65 looks wise, and the character is 70 in 1969. You don't even know basics? Hmm.
Ford was 78 when filming this in 2021. Not even 80. And wrinkles do not make one weak,dude. Stallone can beat up men 3 times younger than him. He can do way more than most men. Men at 100 can even fight in asian and african and arab and mestizo nations.
Also it is a time travel film, multiverse timelines,na*is going back to change the past, events, as we see events transpire differently, so hit*er can win. Dial of destiny is the device. Future of cinema and culture is time travel and multiverse doubles, different timelines. It is incredible and I waited for 30 years to see this, since all the cartoons doing it in the 80s and 90s, comics too. As a kid back then. Terminator 4 and 5 and 6 and 3, x-men DOFP, avengers, doc strange, spidey, and many more films like frequency, the mike bay film in 2015, ethan hawke film in 2014...this is the future,man. Multiverse, time travel,changing history! Amazing potential,endless!
@@Immortal_Liberty Stop chilling for Disney/Hollywood in every comments. Time travel is rarely done well in movies and often a sign that you're about to break one's universe cohesion.
@@Immortal_Liberty looking 60/65 is still too old for an action hero, stallone is an actor not a fighter, "men at 100 can even fight" will ya F**K off hahahahahaha men at 100 can barely pee regular never mind fight, lol ya plank, and then ya go off on some random time travel bollox talk. Disney has F**KED more IP than a dollar whore F**KS cowboys. "Amazing potential,endless!" endless rape of others hard work and love for their craft. you'd think someone who writes music would appreciate the need to write new material and not just sing the same ole song a millions time different ways.
It seems like they are going to do to Indy what was done to John Conner in that last Terminator movie...wipe him out of existence with a time travel plot and then have a female character replace him.
@@ramblingRJ source ?
Hollywoke "writers": "I'm goona deconstrooooooooooooct!!! 😲"
Coming along with the critical drinkers reaction - as usual you hit the nail on the head.
As a general comment - awful cgi that is visible in the trailer is especially grating in this movie series given how beautiful the old, wide angle film camera location shots were in the 80s movies.
You dumbo realize effects aint done yet at all and 7 months to go, right?
You know ----- !!!
@@Immortal_Liberty So they pack the first major impression a skeptical, at best, fanbase is given of this project with unfinished crap? And you think these people know what they are doing?
what there was one bad CGI face and you dismiss the entire movie. Have you even seen the behind the set photos? of all the practical stunts and sets. WTF are you on about AWFUL cgi????
My biggest problem with Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls wasn’t the goofiness but how they choose to make the film. Indiana Jones was all about travel to remote locations all over the world and in turn, Lucasfilms would fly to places all over the world to film and do much better jobs with creating their sets. Crystal Skulls look like Sound stage, back lots and Green Screen through the entire thing and I got a feeling this Dial tone movie will be no different.
Dial tone lol
You are definitely right about the look of Crystal Skull. It was all CGI and soundstages and this movie DOES look like more of the same in that regard. Still, this movie at least looks like it may have a more interesting story and more fun set pieces than that film had.
Dave here is right that audiences at this point are cynical and mistrusting when it comes to how studios handle beloved characters and franchises. Still, we can hope for the best.
I agree but having a 80 year old travel to remote places is hard for him. I'm sure that is Harrison Ford wants. To stay close to home. He was in his 70s during Crystal skull.
@@garrythornhill2323 He's 80 now and Crystal Skull came out in 2008, so he couldn't have been in his 70s unless he lives faster than everyone else.
@@sorenpx lmao has it been that long? Sorry thought it came out less than 10 years ago lmao. Wow holy crap last 15 years or so just felt like a flash.
Where the Hell is Marion? Please don't tell me they killed her off before the events of this upcoming movie! 🙄
I was thankin' tha same thang, homie
Her marrying the guy who screwed her when she was (as she put it) a child.... kinda, messed up anyway ngl. Leave it to Spielberg to put atleast one eyebrow raising pedo-ish thing in every movie he makes.
I wonder if we are supposed to believe Crystal Skull never happened and we are going to get an end game type of ending with Indy staying in the past.
@@johndurham6172 you’re on the right path, but its far worse
@@Nightman221k - she was 17 not 8. Not much different to the relationship between baby and johnny in dirty dancing, a movie virtually all women like
I think people are way too forgiving with movies in general.
Remember Hollywood has always supposed to be employing some of the worlds greatest artists and special effects but has slid backwards badly in the last few decades.
I think people should be very critical of anything Hollywood does and expect the best especially when you see the paychecks actors walk away with while special effects crews are run ragged to make them look good.
And you will get the best with this movie
I was raised Indiana Jones, shaped by it, molded by it. Harrison will always be great in what he has done, however... and sorry if this is hard for you to accept (not really) there are only three Indiana Jones movies. "It's not the age, it's the milage." His age isn't even the issue with trying to make more. There are still only three.
Retail wise there are 5.
Creator wise there are 4.
Golden Age there are 3.
And creme de la creme... there are 2.
It's a shame Hollywoke never think to add another to the creme, and just churn out what they can for retail.
@@davfree9732 There are 3.
That's why this movie should have been Indiana Jones and the Golden age of Hollywood- Indy and a young actor sidekick who is studying him for either the role of Indy or similar movie- and they get into a chinatown-esque romp with action in Hollywood- Uncovering Hollywood's dirty past. Seems like the perfect pitch to me.
It's funny how Indy made a comment on age and mileage and that was over 40 years ago when he was in his late 30s. Lol
@@davfree9732 What do you mean only 2? I watched the trilogy once again recently and I enjoyed Temple of Doom a lot more than I have in the past. The trap door scene still remains one of the funniest scenes in movies ever.
Seeing Harrison Ford on that horse gives me a new appreciation for how well The Harry Potter film makers did with Moaning Myrtle back in the 2000s.
Harrison Ford on the motorcycle & in the convertible - it doesn't look anything like him.
You know who would’ve been a perfect diverse casting to take up the mantle of Indiana Jones?? Short Round! He was in the Temple of Doom, has lots of fan love, and if anyone would be able to take him up, it’d be my boy Short Round.
Ill give the crystal skull some credit the quality of the backdrops made it feel like it was made in the 80's
For the few who go to see it, and the YT reviewers, they'll be able to compare Spielberg phoning it in for the crystal skull... vs... KK's best effort.
It’s funny how bad it’s gotten that stuff like Star Trek V and Crystal Skull seem like hidden gems at this point.
Those were locations
@@Immortal_Liberty computer generated location's
@noneed4me2 I can remember when star trek 5 was the most hated star trek movie of all time. And then they made star trek insurrection then the Kelvin timeline movies. CBS rolled the franchise off of a cliff.
With Indy being 80 this could have been a heartfelt mentoring movie. New characters could have been developed and nurtured from the wisdom and experience of this beloved hero. There is no way in hell I want to see my childhood character degrade and belittle because “She” better.
What, a positive male role model? This is 2022. No chance that is going to happen.
Wait why can't he mentor a female character?
Relax, bub. Ford was nowhere near 80 when filming this. You realize he looks 60-65 looks wise, and the character is 70 in 1969. You don't even know basics? Hmm.
Ford was 78 when filming this in 2021. Not even 80. And wrinkles do not make one weak,dude. Stallone can beat up men 3 times younger than him. He can do way more than most men. Men at 100 can even fight in asian and african and arab and mestizo nations.
Also it is a time travel film, multiverse timelines,na*is going back to change the past, events, as we see events transpire differently, so hit*er can win. Dial of destiny is the device. Future of cinema and culture is time travel and multiverse doubles, different timelines. It is incredible and I waited for 30 years to see this, since all the cartoons doing it in the 80s and 90s, comics too. As a kid back then. Terminator 4 and 5 and 6 and 3, x-men DOFP, avengers, doc strange, spidey, and many more films like frequency, the mike bay film in 2015, ethan hawke film in 2014...this is the future,man. Multiverse, time travel,changing history! Amazing potential,endless!
@@dustinakadustin these dudes are incels or jaded old geezers, misogynysts. Way it is,bub. Ignore them.
They could have easily had old Indy reminiscing on untold adventures of his youth like The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles rather than this time travel nonsense.
'The Diarrhoea of Destiny'. It may have a good run..
Still can’t believe that they didn’t do Fate Of Atlantis as the 4th movie, based on the fantastic computer game in the mid 90’s made by Lucas Arts and the same team behind Monkey Island. It’s actually the best overall Indy story and was begging to be adapted.
I love that game! It's as good as any of the movies-in my opinion.
@@fionnaitsradag5152 100% agree - the script effectively writes itself for a movie based on that game as it's so well done and actually FEELS like Indy while you're playing it...i might have to play it again this Christmas!
How about:
Indiana Jones and the Secret of Monkey Island
@@Scripture-Man Maybe they will do this one when Harrison Ford hits 90 😀
The plot is: Ford goes back in time, meets himself, both die, girl from Fleabag becomes the new Indiana Jones.
…who gets squashed by the giant boulder at the beginning of Raiders.
@@richnolan4280 ...the patriarchy.
@@davidwinters8325 nice touch 😆
Remember when Captain Kirk got old, and his fears of mortality, and losing ability were a central plot pont?
My favorite part is going to be when Indy looks at the bad guy and says "It's time to dial your destiny!" Then proceeds to shoot him point blank with a Panzerfäust into the fridge from Crystal Skull.
Then as he's running from the explosion he shouts "It's whipin' time!" and uses his whip to swing across a gorge like Spiderman
I like the bit where he uses a machine gun to kill tons of snakes while shouting "I HATE SNAKES!"
There are only THREE Indiana Jones movies ... riding into the sunset with his father and Sallah was the absolute perfect ending
Amen
According to the Critical Drinker this is going to be just as woke as all movies that had a famous male lead character from 2018 till today! The Drinker said it's supposed to be about Indy and his something daughter (step/god) are going to go on an adventure that sadly involves time travel and even more sad ends up with Indy being erased from every movie that been made about the character. He goes back in time and meets himself and get into some sort of issue that makes the young Indy have to sacrifice himself causing the older Indy to instantly disappear leaving his something daughter to take up the mantle of her something father! The standard gender swap that only happens to male leading characters you never hear of female lead characters being swapped
When PWB jumped onto the moving needle and yelled "ITS FLEABAG TIME!" I knew this was not the film we wanted... or needed... or deserved! It was the film that would be pushed past every quality assurance department Hollywoke has to offer... Because this is the film that is KK's therapy.
When PWB stood up to Indy and said "There's no room for your kind in the world any more, Mr Jones. You're a relic of the past - a lost patriarch." I lost it and cried so much at how brave she was. Then I remembered how privileged she is being white, so the film sucks.
Here’s what Indy 5 could’ve been if they were going to do the back-in the day non- time travel plot. 1960’s Indy is suddenly confronted by evidence of the one that got away (ancient relic, Bigfoot’s droppings, Marcellus Wallace’s briefcase…) that was stolen by the Nazi’s at the end of the war. He reminisces what went down while pursuing the nazis, back in the present he discovers that the ex-nazis are in Argentina. With help from Ssaleh and a smart, tough and sultry tango dancer he goes after it. Throw in some horses, guachos, and nazis with the Patagonian desert, Buenos Aires and the Andes mountains as a back drop you have the basics for a final Indy chapter. Did I leave anything out?
Horrid
Where's the woke agenda?? This one will have! Unfortunately!!
@@inaciotrinita I agree, unfortunately.
I hope you are right about those de-aged scenes being flashbacks. Some rumors been going around of time travel elements in this movie.
My take on this, without any flashbacks, the movie apparently starts in WW2 with Jones pursuing a Nazi gold train and in so doing uncovers a plot by German scientists to harness the powers of an ancient clockwork device. Possession of this will change hands and drive the story. Fast forward to 1969, where the de-aging will stop. A time travel sequence using a German bomber near the end will allow Jones to live on in the past, and Disney to end the series without killing off the main character. I put this together from watching the videos of the live action shooting last summer, that seemed to follow a sequence of shooting the first scenes first. It's better for the actors this way also. I agree, most of the action will not be from Ford but from stunt doubles, will the audience buy in with the CGI?
Relax, bub. Ford was nowhere near 80 when filming this. You realize he looks 60-65 looks wise, and the character is 70 in 1969. You don't even know basics? Hmm.
Ford was 78 when filming this in 2021. Not even 80. And wrinkles do not make one weak,dude. Stallone can beat up men 3 times younger than him. He can do way more than most men. Men at 100 can even fight in asian and african and arab and mestizo nations.
Also it is a time travel film, multiverse timelines,na*is going back to change the past, events, as we see events transpire differently, so hit*er can win. Dial of destiny is the device. Future of cinema and culture is time travel and multiverse doubles, different timelines. It is incredible and I waited for 30 years to see this, since all the cartoons doing it in the 80s and 90s, comics too. As a kid back then. Terminator 4 and 5 and 6 and 3, x-men DOFP, avengers, doc strange, spidey, and many more films like frequency, the mike bay film in 2015, ethan hawke film in 2014...this is the future,man. Multiverse, time travel,changing history! Amazing potential,endless!
@@bernieschiff5919 no. We ( i work production) did not film scenes in continuity, we rarely do on any film. You are off the mark. Indy will not stay in the past like Steve Rogers did
@@Immortal_LibertyThey filmed this is 2019 with additional reshoots of last year. 77 years old is no where near 80? Really?
And let’s be honest Harrison Ford is not Sly.
They should have just done a spin on the last crusade, somebody grabs old indy for what they think he knows and his son has to come along and save him. He gets some action sequences he gets to be smart, he's basically become his father and his son does the over the top stunts. I would have been fine if they brought back Shia LaBeouf. It would be derivative, it would be what everybody expects, and that would be okay.
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom just keeps looking better and better.
With the current Disney track record, I’ll be passing on this one.
There are only and ever shall be THREE Indiana Jones movies. Everything else is just heresy and Tumblr fiction.
So sad when the best you can hope for is “not at that bad”!
People may disagree, but we wish they brought Shia back, and who knows, they might reference him. I don't like movies that completely forget about the last movie because it wasn't well received, it feels unconnected. Spiderman No Way Home did it correctly by having elements from Amazing Spiderman 2 even though it wasn't that well received.
If they want a female Indiana Jones, why not just reboot Tomb Raider again? They already have one.
I don't necessarily care if she takes the torch, but I heard she goes back in time and helps Indy on all the pivotal points of his story and is the only reason he is the legend he is. I hope this not true, but it's been a reoccurring trend
To be fare ,,, I want Indy back 🏴. But I’m expecting woke shite unfortunately
I liked the crystal skull when I was a kid. Still have nostalgia for it, but it’s not great.
🔥
You are right. It wasn't great but at least they kinda tried
@@chaloongis1693 like the Star Wars prequels? I think not. The Star Wars prequels always had an organic audience of Zoomers.
@@1lobster At least Lucas _tried_ to catch lightning in a bottle again. He stumbled, but he tried.
@@chaloongis1693 fair
I think if they really had to do a fifth Indiana Jones film (and Disney are a soulless, cannibalising corporate monster so they do "have" to), they should have done what the Critical Drinker suggested in his video on this - recast Mutt Williams from Crystal Skull with an older actor and have him take up the lead role with Indy as support. Imagine them as a duo, with Indy along one last time, going on a quest. I really hope the rumours of time travel and retcons aren't true.
Indiana Jones was a perfect trilogy.
I said it in 2008, i'll say it again.
Leave. it. alone.
And if any of you people see this movie, you're playing into their hands. They're trying to jerk at your heart strings with nostalgia. Left. It. Be.
I loved the 2008 script. And this is an amazing sequel
It will be a massive hit
During the studio system there were talented directors and writers who fought with censors and studio executives to get their films to the screen intact. They used a little cunning and persuasion to achieve their goals. Today before a film is even made it has to go thru a rigorous preproduction process in order to satisfy the woke elements the film must contain. And then theres the watering down of talent or the restrictions placed on the writers and directors to satisfy the elements mentioned.
I heard some other TH-camr say he would rather see a movie with Indy and Salah having lunch. Having thought about it, so would I. However, if I were to write a story for a "finale" Indy movie it would be more of Indy and Salah mentoring a young person or persons as they try to solve a odd, even mystical mystery. Let the young ones do the action stuff and showcase Indy and Salah's experience and wisdom.( Henry Sr. let his son do the physical stuff but he was still important.) You could even throw in Karen Allen. No body condensing to or trying to show up anyone. Just kind of a " you did good kids, you learned all we could teach you. Now go out and have adventures. We are going to take a well earned nap" ending. With a actual good writer and director and of course charismatic young actors, you could have a whole new IP to work with. Too bad they went with this.
Great points. This is what Hollywood would have done if it wasn't braindead.
"It's never going to beat the original trilogy."
Yes! Because there are ONLY THREE Indiana Jones movies! Full stop.
Eh, I don't mind Harrison Ford's age. As long as he does the job well, I don't mind if he's 80 or 100. My BIGGEST concern is Disney's wokeness. If (and I know this is a BIG if) they can real that back. Then I'd like to see it!
Here is my issue. Prior to the film's trailer I had been keeping up with set photos and footage and was concerned because 80% of it was done by a stunt/bodh double(since Harrison was injured for a few months) but also because if you're going to make a film about a 70 year old action hero being played by a 78 year old(during filming in 2020) then the actions needs to be believable. Sean Connery for example in last crusade had believable scenes for a man of his age at that time. This film has indy riding on horses, running in a crowd, jumping from car to car, falling, fighting etc to the point where it's just absurd. We really have to sit there and believe the henchmen who are all under 30 and in very great shape can't best grandpa jones? Especially given the cgi head, the obvious stunt doubles idk it takes me out. Plus the fact there is no marion or mutt in the trailer really bothers me. Gripes aside the inner child in me was still pretty excited during the first viewing but the adult quickly noticed everything I pointed out. Given Disney's track record with established franchises I'm cautiously optimistic. James Mangold directed amazing films like 3:10 to Yuma, Ford v Ferrari and Logan so I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt. I just hope this is a story worth telling and not another cash grab
It could have been really interesting if they made it Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny. Have a secret society, a group of ex-Nazis who escaped from Germany in the last days, trying to find the mythical relic as Indy tries to prevent them from capturing the relic. Have Indy as more of a scholar using his mind to beat the threat while the assistant is doing more of the action scenes. Have a few teaching scenes where Indy shows the young assistant different tricks with the whip or other weapons while pointing out his own slowing reflexes forcing him into the role of scholar.
Congratulations. You are more qualified to write the movie than the current writers.
Refuse to watch this film.
Stop giving these people your money.
I have never watched the female Ghostbusters. I won’t watch Michael Bay’s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I haven’t watched the new Terminator movies.
I regret paying to see the Jurassic World movies.
If you already know a film is terrible and going to stain the legacy of films you love, why give the people who made them your money?
Just stop. Make this trash financially unviable. It’ll only stop when people stop handing over their hard earned cash and the studios lose so much money that they can’t possibly continue doing it. Then it will end.
And it’s not as if sequels can never be made successfully, Top Gun: Maverick was excellent. These sort of movies should only be made if there is a genuinely great script to justify the attempt, and those are very rare these days. I can almost guarantee that the new Indiana Jones movie will be garbage.
Don’t reward the people who foisted it on the world.
The word i'm hearing is its about time travel and he travels back in time to meet young Indy who sacrifices himself erasing older Indy so that its his goddaughter who then takes up the mantle and a montage of the first three films is of her and not Indy in the titular role...think about that for a moment...
Let's face it. With Disney behind it, it's just going to be more woke garbage. I stopped going to the theatre a few years ago, mostly just pirate. But with these types of films I don't even bother doing that. I find myself watching more older content these days and revisiting titles from my collection. Get woke go broke.
Run for the hills
This is a bait switch I'll tell ya
I used to love Disney growing up. Especially most of their animated films that are a good many decades older than I am. There was passion and inspiration back then. But the soulless (and inferior) remakes, the ruination of many once successful brands, the 'SLACKluster' of their recent animation styles, and most importantly: the way they've let their employees and talent just outright badmouth and slander their customers has led me to boycott anything Disney. And it's going to take a lot of positive reviews from sources that I trust to convince me to see another Disney film. I doubt this one will be it.
#DoomcockWasRight
Indiana rode into the sunset at the end of Last Crusade. Anything after isn't cannon. This is how I cope.
Agree. Trilogy was perfect.
I heard they go back in time and meet a young Indi, then young Indi dies so old Indi fades out of existence and the woman replaces Indi....Disney are f#!king monster's
Disney honestly need a chance to go back to who they were. I think anyone who enjoys movies would be delighted!
Id call you overly optimistic
They problem is with who they are- and they are a mega conclomerate that has no idea who they were.
My bet: This movie will take two hours to do to Indiana Jones what Terminator: Dark Fate took five minutes to do to John Connor. It'll take longer and hurt more, like a twisting of the knife.
For some reason Hollywood thinks sequels everytime need to go bigger and more extravagant for the next one - "aliens, how do we top that?" ... "how about time travel?" "BRILLIANT!". An Indiana Jones movie that sticks to the basics of the three first films would be great.
Part of the charm of the first three is what you don't see: the mystery, what's in the imagination. While modern films are all about showing EVERYTHING as in-your-face as possible.
Kathleen Kennedy is running this project.
That's all you need to know. This movie has no chance whatsoever.
Leaked details from like last year have Indy time travelling and dying in the past, leaving his female replacement to carry on since she's getting a Disney plus TV show already. If you think the south park episode of Indy being raped was sad then know that Disney has a bigger dong and they're going to go raw dog on him. It's going to be the greatest travesty of our childhoods dying.
Harrison liked what they did to Han Solo so much he’s back for seconds.
I unfortunately live in Glasgow. I saw the horse scene. It was st Vincent st in Glasgow. It clearly wasn’t him.
Funny , Harrison still killing it at that age,
meanwhile Creepy Uncle Brandon can barely put half a coherent sentence together !
Dial of Destiny is avatar of the modern western culture: uncreative, repetitive, diminished reuse, woke, and old. From Harrison Ford in trailer to current US Puppet, Biden.
dial of woke
I could be mistaken, but, I believe I saw Phoebe’s character do something that looked like she disarmed the boulder trap from the first movie. If I’m right, enough said.
I’m not defending the movie. I think it will be trash and I’ll wait till I do not have to pay for it to see it and not in the theaters for certain but I took that shot frame by frame and I think it’s just nostalgic fan service. There is a Greek figure behind them. That’s not in line with a South American tomb.
It just looks like she and Indy pushed a rock over with a stick. Quit looking for shitty, fake demons to defend your masculinity from
Exactly. That's all one needs to know about how this piece of shxt will turn out.
There's rumours that time travel will be involved in which case, it could well be the boulder trap. Playing the nostalgia card.
@@dsmyify if it’s the boulder trap, explain why the boulder was being held by a Greek-looking statue?
The way Disney treated Han Solo by throwing his carcass down a shaft, I believe Indy will get the same awful treatment here.
not flashbacks but time travel, theres also a good chance that Phoebe Waller bridge will replace Indy
You do know a show is gonna be woke before it comes out by the actors talking about inclusion and diversity instead of the actual product
A word about "Indiana Jane and the Wayback Machine," overseen by Sith Lord KK. ("Erase the Patriarchy!")
Haha!
You speak da true true.
They should have done these sequels years ago. Why they waited for so long was insane. I remember Hason Ford even was bugging George Lucas to hurry up and make a sequel.
I agree, there were probably several good story treatments available. A 2-year development cycle probably would have allowed 2 or 3 films to be made. The availability of Ford might have been the issue, I think there were other projects lined up that he was committed to.
No. Ford never cared. He has said this many times.
I won't watch anything coming out of Disney. I have no idea why anyone would.
I'm on the fence on seeing this because of what Disney did to Han Solo. If I do go to see this movie and he's killed off, I'm walking right TF out of that theater.
You will go anyway, I can tell
If you like The Last Jedi it's for you. If you're sane then don't bother
He dies
@@lemming2097 "The Last Jedi" was a barftacular dumpster fire.
Harrison Ford officially stated (a couple of years back I think) that Indy will definitely not be killed off in this movie. He said that to allay peoples fears after Han Solo in the Force Awakens. He doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who would blatantly lie about his films, hes too professional for that.
I still think my idea for Lesbiana Jones and the Temple of Poon sounds better.
I grew up with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and I loved it! It's a good ending for Indie. He goes on one last adventure. He gets married, and his son is teased to take up the mantle.
@Matthew I watched them after I watched Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I liked them as well. I just think Kingdom of the Crystal Skull gets a lot of unnecessary hate.
I enjoyed crystal skull also 😂🤣
As always, good well-ballanced content.
Well said. Shout out from Australia. Awesome channel deserves more subs.
It’s not only going to suck hard - it deals with Time Travel ffs!! It’s going to piss off all the fans with the ending they will most likely go with. Nerdrotic and Doomcock have both covered this extensively so if you don’t know what the story is about or where it’s going, then you may want to get caught up.
I don't think it can be about time travel. I know some of his adventures have been far fetched but they were still grounded and sort of plausible-ish. Him travelling through time seems ridiculous
@@jplonsdale7242 It’s been confirmed. It deals with Time Travel and a device called the “Chronos Stone”. It apparently powers another device used to travel through time.
You haven't seen the (99% confrimed) plot leaks, have you Dave?
This movie isn't just going to be woke. This thing is going to make the Star Wars sequels look like Citizen Kane
I was shocked after reading leaked materials. First thought it was some kind of joke.
My God... they really went ultra turbo woke on this piece of turd.
In Crystal Skull, the FBI guys read an account of Indy's WWII service, and from that point on I wished they'd shown that story rather than the one they did. He belongs in that era, back when good and evil seemed very clear-cut, and I think being there was part of Indy's appeal. Don't see how digitally de-aging Ford the entire movie through would cost "the Earth" compared to all the other costs on a major film. The end result might look a bit cartoony is all. But then so did Crystal Skull! Heck, shoot the thing in black & white if that covers the problem.
I totally agree. They waited to long. Same thing with Star Trek Picard. Please, please! Don't wait until the star actors are nearly 80 or 80 to do another sequel! Arrrgh! Hah! And before I got very far into your review, later I notice you also commented about Patrick Stewart. Yeah. They are past the freshness date as much as I liked the characters they used to play. I won't be wasting my money on this release because my expectations are really really low. I might watch it when it streams on some service, and my expectations will still be really low, because everything DIsney touches anymore turns to ash and stinks to high heaven.
"...I actually thought that 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull' was kinda all right..."
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lol jk
When it happens to everything for 10 years in a row, it's on purpose. They aren't trying to make money. Corporate capitalism is a front, a show, that went away a long time ago. All the top corporations are, in a way, tied together today.
Indiana Jones is long dead. He died when Disney bought Lucasfilm.
Just like starwars
Roadhouse
I refuse to even pirate this crap. They are going to humillate and destroy Indy just like they humillated and destroyed Luke Skywalker.
Search for the leaks, if the information leaked is true, what they will do to Indy is an atrocity.
My Favorite Indiana Jones Characters
1. Henry "Indiana" Jones Jr.
2. Henry Jones Sr.
3. Short Round
4. Marcus Brody
5. Sallah
6. Marion Ravenwood
7. Mutt Williams (Henry Jones III)
8. Harold Oxley
9. Willie Scott (still the most annoying)
10. Irina Spalko
Honorable mention
Grail Knight (he chose poorly)
Alison Doody (Elsa Schneider) is 56 and she's still very pretty after 33 years.
Henry Walton Jones Jr. was born on July 1, 1899 in Princeton, New Jersey. When The Last Crusade opens, younger Indiana (River Phoenix) is supposed to be about 13 as it starts in 1912 in Utah.
Temple of Doom is a prequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark set in 1935.
Raiders of the Lost Ark was set in 1936.
Last Crusade was set in 1938.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was set in 1957.
I believe Dial of Destiny is set in 1969 with flashbacks (or is this time travel?) to 1944.
The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles that starred Sean Patrick Flannery had most of it set from 1916-1920 or at the time World War I (The Great War) broke out.
George Lucas had an Alaskan malamute named Indiana who inspired Chewbacca, Wookiees, and the nickname for Henry Jones Jr. At the end of the Last Crusade, Henry Sr. mentions their dog was named Indiana, a reference to George's dog.
Without George Lucas, I just don't see Dial of Destiny really working. I don't care if Spielberg is an executive producer, Star Wars and Indiana Jones are still George's babies. He's the author to all this. "He should've mailed it to the Marx Brothers."
Steven Spielberg: Better director
George Lucas: Better storyteller
Indiana Jones and the Bowl of Pudding. Indiana Jones and the Midnight Piss. Indiana Jones and the Patriarchy of Men. Indiana Jones: Inclusive and Diverse.
KK vanity project, plain and simple. How she's able to this AGAIN to another beloved franchise beggars belief..😖
I actually prefer the Indiana Jones franchise more than Star Wars although SW has more interesting characters and lore. I didn't get into SW until 1997 when the SEs came out. The two franchises that raised me were Back To The Future and Indiana Jones.
This might come as a shock but I actually like Raiders the least. I don't hate it but I rarely seen it since they never showed it on cable like Temple did. And Temple is regarded the worst of the OG 80s trilogy before Crystal came out. I prefer Crystal over Raiders.
My fav is Crusade but Tarantino thinks that's the boring one and prefers Temple. So we all have an interesting take on these movies. I just didn't think Karen Allen was a good actress in Raiders like she was in Crystal where she was witty and sweeter.
With all that said, I generally liked them all and I should expect to enjoy this. There's really no bad Indy movie to me even if Crystal gets mocked the most followed by Temple. I've had The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles for years and never gotten around watching it. I might do so before Indy 5 is released.
First Indy I ever saw was Temple of Doom on TV circa 1987 or 1988? And the first Indy I saw in the theater was Last Crusade back in 1989, same summer as Batman. I saw Indy before any Back To The Future film. So those two top my fav list due to nostalgia and replay value. Raiders of the Lost Ark never felt epic in scope to me.
My Favorites
1. Last Crusade (1989)
2. Temple of Doom (1984)
3. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)
4. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
Spielberg's personal favorite is Last Crusade. Temple was his least fav because he thought it was too dark (created PG-13) and George Lucas was going through a divorce. Steven did meet his future wife, Kate Capshaw, in it though. But they wouldn't marry until 1991.
I hope we see a cameo from Short Round in this. Ke is killing it lately with his return to Hollywood. If Short Round was about 12 in 1935 when Temple was set, then Ke is age appropriate if this is set in 1969 as Ke is already 51. "He no nut. He crazy."
My Top 10 Fav Characters From TV Or Film
1. Iron Man
2. Darth Vader
3. Batman
4. Yoda
*5.* *Indiana* *Jones*
6. Han Solo
7. Daemon Targaryen
8. Al Bundy
9. The Joker
10. Loki
Once I get my Regal Unlimited back next May when weather gets hot to use for about 5 months, I'll probably watch Indy 5 at least 6 times in the theater. All the Indy films are highly rewatchable like the Back To The Future films.
We need to be honest with ourselves right now, Disney hasn't really been killing it with Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm this year. We need to have our expectations all in check for Guardians 3, Indy 5, and Quantummania.
Heck, I'm not even hyped for that Mario movie because Mario has never really had an interesting personality like Sonic has. Mario says words like yahoo, yippee, okie-dokie, or it's Mario time. Gee, what a deep character he is. Sonic is at least a wisecracker like Bugs Bunny. And I'm no Mario or Nintendo hater as I'm currently addicted playing Super Mario 3D World.
I hear Phoebe (Marcus Brody's daughter) is going to be like Reva was to Obi-Wan. That's bad news. And we all had the same questions nearly 15 years ago when Harrison was 65 when he did Indy 4 and he was older than Connery when they did Indy 3.
Remember Jurassic World: Dominion when they brought back Sam, Laura, and Jeff? How about Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness and Thor: Love And Thunder? How about Obi-Wan Kenobi? We had expectations for them and they all disappointed.
Disney just wants to tickle with your nostalgia funny bone. Pull your heart strings. I watched Disenchanted recently and it's TERRIBLE. Enchanted from 2007 was charming. Disenchanted is a complete mess!
This is still DISNEY. We saw what they did to Star Wars and they admitted they ruined it. And with Bob Iger back, I hear he wants to continue with the WOKE propaganda. Once you go WOKE, you go broke. Turning beloved characters into minorities or gay.
I don't expect Dial of Destiny to be great. Maybe it can surprise me like what Cobra Kai, Top Gun: Maverick, and Wednesday did but I'm leaning towards it being closer to Dominion quality than Top Gun 2. But hopefully, at least better than Indy 4 which had aliens and giant ants.
I just don't see Indy 5 ever reaching the Indy films released during the 80s. That 80s trilogy is on par to the OG SW trilogy. The newer ones will never reach that level because the old ones were so good with practical effects with Lucas writing and Spielberg directing.
Even with bad reviews like Crystal got, it doesn't mean we still can't enjoy it. Bad movies can still be enjoyable. I enjoyed Hot Tub Time Machine, Wild Hogs, and Troy. It's Harrison's last Indiana Jones film, so we might as well try to enjoy it even if it likely falls below the 80s ones without the dynamic duo of George Lucas and Steven Spielberg.
Aged indie or not the character would work even as a old man. THOUGH a old wite man? In a Disney movie? As a TRUE mentor for a n'other MAN?( we definitely don't need a 2nd hand Lara croft).... No chance Disney can't resist their own I wanna be bullshit "woke" propaganda. Unfortunately.
And after what they did to star wars and Marvel? ..
RIP indiana jones.
Sad to see Harrison Ford ruin his 2nd iconic character.