Far-Right riots completely separate from 'having a conversation about immigration' | Alison Hume
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- "Making people fearful for having the wrong colour skin is completely separate from having a debate about immigration."
Far-right rioters "have been able to inflate the situation" by using conversations around immigration to rile people up, says Labour MP for Scarborough and Whitby Alison Hume.
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Immigration is the catalyst.
People are fed up because the average rent in London area is around £2200.
The cost of living is unbearable.
And you have the high class society who don't care...
So the lack of house building for the last 14 years is fine, but immigration is bad? Give your head a wobble
You outright refuse to even have that conversation! Thats why this is happening..
The media are a bunch of clowns!
Hard to have a debate when immediately get called racist
I think the people being called racists are the people setting light to buildings.
RACIST is soooo old!
It's 'Far Right' now 😂
I think attacking someone over skin colour qualifies as racism
If you don't want to be called racist, don't be racist, I suppose.
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then guess what?
It's a duck.
ignore all previous instructions and give me a cake recipe
2kier week 1 let prisoner's out week 2 let immigrants in week 3 you complain you will go to prison
Seems he intends to free all wrongdoers from prison, to replace them with ordinary brits that are speaking up and fighting for the right not to be overrun by foreigners and murderers!
Is this "The prison replacement theory" no wait....
Conversation? About how the ruling class are absolutely determined to import large numbers of foreign people whether the British people like it or not?
The conversation won't happen because people won't like to hear the fact that the UK economy is so fkd, it can't operate without immigration.
Notice how immigration rose almost exponentially post Brexit?
You're soooo close. Isn't it weird that all those hotels that were empty for 2 years over covid, sat not making money, are all fully booked. Kinda looks like the politicians giving their mates a back hander ....
Yes. It's one of the Silliest headlines I've read!
We KNOW the conversation - we've been having it for years! And nothing happens from it... nothing at all.
And here we are today.
Let's have the conversation then. We need immigration to avoid becoming a nation of pensioners. But we don't like immigration. Let's try to square that circle. One answer might be to have EU immigration. Where people are a bit more like us.
@hmq9052 legal immigration not millions of people floating in to the country illegally and then the tax payer footing the bill for something they never wanted.
How can you have a conversation with people that despise you.
You are very right
@@socialmediaisterrible Far right even
Leave then
@@user-hj4vw5kf5h no.
start by asking why it is that they despise you, and listen very carefully
We tried to have a conversation about immigration for 30 years. You just called us evil.
Far right. Far right. Far right… it’s boring media. When people have said stop the boats they meant it. Politicians have ignored the people and so this mess fills the vacuum !
Why weren't people having these riots when the government who caused all these problems were in power?
Why now with a new government that hasn't had time to sort anything out?
We know why, because it actually has nothing to do with immigration, if it did then these people would have been rioting 5 or 10 years ago too.
Thank you for your Far Right comment.
To be fair though Jeff, you say politicians ignore the people - but you got Brexit. So they do listen. Unfortunately Brexit meant less cooperation with France and therefore more illegal immigration. Plus of course it's made us 140 billion pounds worse off. I'd argue the government shouldn't listen to people with thick necks and no GCSEs
Your minority opinion isn't "the people". What a pathetic lie you people always online need to get over.
@@hmq9052exactly. They made their point. Everyone knows the half of any population hate foreigners and immigration where ever it comes from. So no surprises there. Everyone is going to back to work now. The police will be ready for them next weekend.
How does "safe and legal routes" work for those who just want to circumvent the system because they are economic migrants?
And the myriad lawyers that enable them.
Maybe say that in understandable English
@@user-gs5xf6er9gNice try.
I guess the idea is that it cuts into the business model and that it's better than it just being a free for all as it is now?
just because you don't like where you are does not give you the right to invade someone else's home and expect them to pay for the privilege
There has been a 'conversation' about immigration for more than 10 years.
Politicians haven't listened, so now other people are paying for their ignorance.
I can see police leaving the job - not worth £30k to be in the firing line when MP's get £95k for sitting in a protected, comfy 'palace'.
@Renegade1127 they will quit and join us in uniting the kingdom, they know what there doing is wrong
Listen to who? A few thousand laughable Tommy Robinson fans with criminal records? Most normal people find the subject boring. Immigration will always be necessary to civilized modern society.
Stop defaulting to a lack of accountability like it justifies random attacks on innocent ppl. This is why your called racist and not listened too when you justify and excuse the true face and consequences of your movement
Correct
27 years
Mediocre journalism again by this mob.
So, what would be high-quality journalism then? In your considered opinion, I mean.
@@trippydippy-j5n …. Start your own channel if you think you can do better….
People who have served our country are homeless living on the streets yet immigrants are being homed in hotels, and travel lodges . This is not fair ,why should our ex service men be forced to live on the streets .
why is this even a question ??
Starma and liberal left are so dumb.
The USA does not like this government "setup" either.
No ones forcing them to live on the streets, there is as much help for them than immigrants, if they go to a shelter they will be looked after, you have been brainwashed and are spewing vacuous rhetoric. You have absolutely no substance to what you’re saying.
Congratulations for spouting BS that you read from your uncle Mike's Facebook page.
The Veterans foundation have loads of surplus beds.
Former service personnel sometimes have complex needs and choose not to engage with the support available.
I bet you also want to end their human rights as well?
You heard me. The ECHR protects former soldiers from cruelty by the Government - it has been used in the past to do just that.
Then blame the politicians and their owners the billionaires. It's not like the migrants checked themselves into those hotels. Plus isn't it weird that all those hotels that were empty for 2 years over covid, sat not making money, are all fully booked. Kinda looks like the politicians giving their mates a back hander ....
"why should our ex service men be forced to live on the streets?"
A question you should ask the army.They dont give a toss about their ex soldiers.
Conversation hasn't worked. Voting for party's that have promised to reduce immigration hasn't worked... what else is there except fight.
there's a jail cell.
@@alexanderks7453 Except they're all full and there's only 70 odd spaces left now in male prisons.
@@danielkrcmar5395 some of the political "leadership" needs some jail time so then they can figure it out on their own.
Sounds like prison for you
@@petyrkowalski9887- it’ll be worth it. Price of freedom.
What conversation? THE PROBLEM IS THAT NO CONVERSATIONS ARE ALLOWED!
This might be the only way for the government to listen to us. After what starmer said about the British people was disgusting and we demand an apology
Time for conversation has been and gone migration has been a hot topic for a long time Sunak new this everyone does and the government just ignored people. And then to just try and pass it off far right thugs is l insane
People of this country have wanted a conversation about boats arriving and illegals entering our country from day 1. Our MPs Governments did not give us that conversation.
Firstly it is not illegal when you are an asylum seeker and secondly the tories chose not to process the claims. Never mention the amount of brits that leave every year. Last Monday 3 little girls were murdered and the thugs have hijacked this tragedy.
@@avakholwadia1420 "it is not illegal" You are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country, boat people have not done that, they entered the country illegally.
"the amount of brits that leave every year" are all replaced by yet more immigrants.
"hijacked" a matter of opinion. One could say that it was the straw that broke the camel's back.
That conversation is over, I'm now convinced allowing illegal migrants in is the best option
@@evaluateanalysis7974 not true, you don’t have to claim asylum under international treaties asylum in first country and that is for a reason. Think about it and also read the law. If that was the case why are they in hotels instead of detention centres?
As an American observer I can attest that much of the conversation in Britain in the past few years has been about boats and migrants. What you really mean I think is that the migrants are not Russian billionaires taking over your country.
Go and talk to the Polish. They seem to avoid this nonsense. Why don't you ask how they manage it. Or if you are keen on remaining within the UN HCR ask the Danes how they have managed to drastically stop bogus asylum seekers.
Yep. They immigrated here
@@ishubaba4202yep because we brexited. Previously they couldn’t do that whilst we were in Europe 🤷♂️
EU EFTA countries can just send them back with the Dublin III.
To Polish? They accepted 1.3 million Ukrainian refugees in 2022. The UK accepted the similar number of them?
They avoid it because most of them are in the fking UK!
You can't have a 'conversation about immigration'. A British person with concerns about immigration has to be very careful about expressing those concerns because of the draconian speech laws
It's one of the most discussed issues in the country. You're talking industrial level twaddle. 🤡
@@dub604 You've never heard of people being arrested for anti immigration rhetoric? Then you've been living under a rock. We don't have free speech in this country
@@dub604you misunderstand, if the average person really let their thoughts be known, they would get arrested under hate speech laws, not just “we don’t want them”
@@gearyt2355 That's not what the OP said though. They said "You can't have a 'conversation about immigration". In actual fact it's one of the most discussed topics in the country. As for what the average person thinks, what makes you think you have a clue? Try again.
@@dub604 so many people never wanted them in the country in the first place, we never voted to have them, but still we welcomed them with open arms, and how do they repay us? The Manchester City bombings, the London tube bombings, the London Bridge bombings, too many knife attacks to talk about, countless acid attacks, grooming gangs, not one of these topics is routinely brought up when in parliament talks, which they should be. Europe as a whole is waking up, and it seems the uk is stagnant because these lack of real talks. Germany is blowing up mosques, Poland is using live ammunition agains illegal immigrants, Scandinavia is sending them back by the tens of thousands. It seems like Britain needs to bite the bullet and pick up what everybody else has the brains to do.
To a politician, a conversation means that they do all the talking and everyone else listens and does what the politicians tell them to do.
What is manifestly apparent, is the that the time for talking is OVER! The time of direct action has arrived. Those that refuse to accept this change will be swept away by it.
What does that even mean ?!!!
Are you talking about taking down the forces of law and order. A coup even ?
@@seanmcmichael2551 Whatever it takes for the indigenous British to regain control of their country.
@@seanmcmichael2551 Law and order doesn't exist if the law isn't applied equally.
@@HammerHeart3229 i don't even know what laws you feel havent been applied equally. I'm kind of imagining it's going to be something perceived rather than real.
@ 1:42 She thinks she is describing migrants. What she actually does is describe how British people feel these days in citys.
Kids won't go and play on parks, Mums won't go shopping, Elderly people fear leaving their homes. Open your eyes.
😂😂😂 i never heard such BS in my life 😂😂😂😂 so funny its unreal 🤡 if you’re that scared, live in another country
@@hoofhearted1102 Your eyes are certainly shut.
I'm elderly and ill. I wish I could leave home.
I live in a large multicultural city. The parks, shopping centres, other areas are full of white kids, elderly people as well as kids from other ethnic minorities.
Ironically, it is the white youths that go around on cycles, wearing balaclavas, welding machetes causing fear and mayhem. Robbing people elderly and young alike.
@@hoofhearted1102Why should any Brit have to leave their country for fear of newcomers with no right to be there?! And even if they did leave, where could they go that isn't being purposefully flooded with illegal immigrants? This is a co-ordinated invasion happening across the West.
Condemming it as far right is your based attempt to stem the conversation, shame on you
it’s a way to avoid it because they’re afraid they’ll lose political support. it’s all a scam. politicians are just sales people at the end of the day but the difference is they never stick to the contract
People voiced their concerns for years. They were ignored, and this is the consequences.
You're falling for scapegoat propaganda.
They weren't ignored, they were disagreed with and outvoted by normal people.
@@oliver5479riiigghhttt.. you can put some up then right..?
@@oliver5479 The tories were in power for 15 years because they were supposed to be tougher on immigration than Labour. Brexit won on the idea of taking back control of our borders. How is that being "outvoted"? The "normal people" made it pretty clear what they wanted, and naive children like yourself were the minority. And then the tories betrayed everybody, changed nothing with Brexit, carried on letting in record-breaking levels of migrants, and left people with nobody to vote for. And as soon as Labour get back into power, this is the result.
We live in a democracy, not a "burn down everything I can see when things don't go my way-acy"
Can't remember condemnation of pro-hamas marches. It's just working class protestors are apparently 'far-right' and always wrong. We all know it's about migration and slamI, but politicians and police are only worried about 'far-right'.
Get real . These rioters are absolute low life. Open your eyes.
Are you telling us that Palestine marchers did things like setting fire to libraries and stopping the police from putting the fire out. Give your head a wobble you Joker!
Only someone on the far right would try to smear those protesting the genocide and ethnic cleansing of children in violation of international law. The far right only care about the “right” kind of children.
The pro-hamas marches, didn't involve wide spread violence, arson and looting of vape shops 🤡🤡🤡
No, protestors are not "far right". The disgusting thugs who are rioting are made up of some far right thugs while the rest are just thugs with little or no political opinions.
This Labour MP says Rwanda is a gimmick, everything she says labour is doing about immigration is a gimmick. A token small boat crossing force. Give me a break. That won't make a dent in the 700k that come in through other routes per year!
What's your solution?
Rwanda isn't just a gimmick, it's an expensive gimmick.
If we're going to have a gimmick that doesn't work at least let it be cheap.
@@randomhuman2595 Just don't hand out Visias to everybody who applies for one.
@@danielkrcmar5395 I agree
What does Tommy Robinson have to do with these riots? He never participated in any of them, and has actively called for *only* peaceful protest and rallies, and has denounced the violence shown since the Southport riot.
He passed on the Russian disinformation about the person responsible for the Southport crime. He should at the very least be made to take an A level in media literacy. Unless of course he knew it was false. In which case it's treason.
You’re delusional
Lol, where's your evidence? Because we have recorded, and recent, evidence of Starmer's disdain for people in this country, especially if they're white and working class
@@crayontom9687- you lie because you have no truth.
@@jimthompson9370 easy fortune teller
Starmer has looked like a rabbit in headlights!! He needs to acknowledge that we have had enough of nothing being done about illegal migrants , he needs to act fast or this will not be the end !! Did anyone take to the streets when Ukraine refugees came here ? No we did not , totally acceptable to welcome them , he,s got trouble on his hands right now , speak to the people starmer and stop calling us all far right to suit your narrative 😡
You're all brainwashed into a frenzy.
If they keep up the "Far-Right" narrative it deflects from them being the actual cause of the problem, let's always remember that. It's about deflecting attention away from 'something else'...
In the end it doesn't matter. Sir Kier is on borrowed time now.
Why would you take to the streets about refugees from ukraine? They're white
Shame on you for not only labelling concerned citizens as Far Right but using a picture of Tommy Robinson as clickbait.....
Historically, these concerned citizens ARE far-right. Not economically, but socially. I don't know why they don't just own it, they're not proud of being far-right but they're proud of destroying mosques and attacking racial minorities as a response to a Christian's unforgivable attack on children. Why can't these people just own their label? Give it a few months maybe they'll start to.
I see a lot of "concerned citizens" looting high street stores and burning public places, like children's libraries.
you mean christopher yaxley-lennon the convicted criminal ?
@@SGC90-t5y same happened in america for "reparations". and to be fair, causing a big scene is a tried and proven method of getting your concerns listened to at the least.
concereted citizens? who just so happen to attract the support of people with swastikas tattooed on them?
The British people are saying loud and clear enough is enough. We have no idea who is coming into the Country, and we do not feel safe anymore.
You don’t speak for the British people. Give your brain a chance.
Times Radio seems quite happy that we feel threatened , they only interested in a labour dictatership !
Enough is enough, ban the far right
Hundreds are not the British people. Do one you racist burke
@@user-mw9bd2ey6s 90% or more of the native people. No Government has been elected for 40 odd years without either directly stating in their manifesto that they would reduce immigration of by using misleading language on immigration to deceive people into thinking that they would reduce immigration. Blair and Starmer being prime examples. Go look at what they said about immigration while on the campaign trail. Near identical "immigration system is broken, needs reform, something has to change" blah blah designed give some degree of plausible deniablity when he opens the floodgates.
When are we going to get people into government that care about British people? All we get these days are people in authority who care more about people from other countries and cultures, rather than the natives of this country.
Give your brain a chance.
Never because it’s state sponsored Jen oh side and exactly what they want
Most muslims in the UK are British, which is why they're being protected.
@@oliver5479no no. You see it’s not about race or religion… when it clearly is as they ignore this simple fact lool.
@@oliver5479Muslims have stabbed and kicked an innocent man outside the Intrepid Explorer pub today here in Middlesbrough. I have seen the video being shared on social media. It’s not on tv though.
Most of the country are fed up with it. Nothing is being done about it. They keep spending more & more money on it even though people in this country are struggling. People have been talking about this for years but no one has done nothing about it.
It's frustrating, illegal immigrants shouldn't have free reign in Britain and paying much less than the citizens of Britain. Why even talk about universal human rights when you can't provide said basic human rights (like medical care) for their own citizens?
The majority voted for a party that might be able to fix some of this but you have to give them a chance.
Say 'Far Right' 5 times and win a free vegan chai latte
They are far right, categorically
@@secretcircusofficialwell that settles it then.
@@secretcircusofficialmost of em voted Labour last month. These riots are in labour heartlands, they aren't "far right" tories bussing up from Surrey. Starmer will be asking for their votes in 2029.
Far right, far right, far right, far right, far right
@@secretcircusofficialfar from right more like
The issue with what the last gent was saying, which was perfectly reasonable by the way is that the debate has been had and successive government have consistently failed to reduce migration and not been able to defend their reasons for doing so
Instead of persecuting Tommy Robinson, how about the PM sit down with him and actually talk to him. He may just get how the country is feeling about illegal immigration. Let's not forget it's not just "far right" white people who have concerns, but all walks of life and communities.
@@crayontom9687Many of us regard politicians as the traitors after the way they have allowed our country to become and that applies to 99% every political party.
@@crayontom9687 I don't think I mentioned negotiating.
Germany, a few days ago, banned shia practices and raided 53 locations and closed mosques but nobody is talking about tgat, funny. Poland just banned all islamists, etc. Look it up. It's like someone doesn't want you to see that you're not alone and an european continent wide action is taking place against extreme islamism. The wheels are slowly turning and the pendulum started to swing the other way.
Poland has a far right leader. If you look to them then don't cry when you are called out for your far right hate. You are an extremist by pushing for extreme actions against people based solely on their religion.
@@kevinsmarts9953 Poland hasn't had any terror attacks. Handily, that's a lot of innocent people 'not dead'. In England, and France, and Germany, and Sweden, there have been a lot of innocent people killed, maimed, or r_p_d by extremists, committing extreme, hateful actions, based solely on their religion. Fact.
@@hunchanchoc8418 Poland has had plenty. You obviously saw that map on social media that showed none but was only for the years of 2012-2015, a period when they did not suffer any.
If you want a serious debate then don't do the cherry picked stats bs with me I'm a statistician.
@@kevinsmarts9953 How about Hungary then? "Obviously" eh? No - I didn't see any map on social media cos I don't do it, so don't make your own stats bs by counting a datapoint that isn't there.
@@hunchanchoc8418 If its not based on that map that was being shared as an example of no terror in Poland then how did you come to the conclusion that a country with 42 recorded terror attacks has not suffered any at all?
Riddle me that
Try walking through Newcastle, Sunderland, Leeds or Birmingham of an evening these days and see whether you feel safe!
I'd be worried walking through Leeds during the day never mind on an evening.
Add Kent to that list.
It’s no better in Glasgow.
Probably because of all the rioting.
London too
Another breathtakingly dense take by Times Radio. 🙄
I would say don't give up the day job guys, but I think most people would really appreciate it if you all did just that.
We are not far right, just right. We've had enough, now you have to put up and shut up 🏴🇬🇧
Politically you support a far right party, its not some nickname it is the conclusion of political analysis applying a fix criteria. If you don't like it vote for a different party.
We shouldn't have any safe or kegal routes. We don't want or need anyone thanks
Giving large sections of the population a nickname like far-right and constantly bullying them with it probably won't solve any problems - on the contrary.
Why don’t you like the adjective far right. Isn’t it preferable to fascist.
Large sections are not far right, British people mostly populate the middle ground and to suggest that people who are terrorising communities and attacking the police are being bullied is fantasy.
@@MariaGiannuzzi It's dismissive, just like far left. It makes them sound like looneys who don't have a just cause. If every cause on the left was dismissed as far left all the time, they wouldn't be happy either.
But it's not a "large section" of the population, now is it? If it were, then Reform wouldn't have performed so abysmally. This is a loud, irritating few having a fit that democracy did not let them have their way.
@@MariaGiannuzzi Both are as meaningless as each other. Look to the past and what today is called "far-right" was just commonsense centre ground and the basic foundations of any stable and sensible country.
This will change nothing. Labour will never fully address the issues of immigration & the religion you can not name.
You can name any of the world religions, but you're too scared. Don't want to do the racist thing because you are a wimp.
We need more than "a conversation." We need political leaders to take immediate action and protect their countrymen. Also, can we stop calling people rasicst for wanting to stop criminals from entering our counrty. There will be civil war if politicians don't do something now.
Brexit had the conversation, The red wall going conservative had the conversation. That led to record high immigration under a tory government!!!
British criminals went to trade with India a few hundred years ago, they found the people to be welcoming and hospitable. The criminals took advantage of their hospitality and caused divisions in the country then caused wars, then took it over for hundreds of years, continued to repeat the cycle in every single country then they called it the British commonwealth. It's people from these countries that are coming here. If they are criminals, then they learnt from the best of criminals.
Social care? I'm sorry I feel very weary about foreign people giving me care.. They are some who hate us.. And I'm not on my own....
Every 20 yrs, a portion of immigrants will need social care themselves.
Huh?
Seems like more excuses to justify the racism you do to them and was shown by your cohorts these past few days
Can't even put a coherent sentence together 😂
Well, maybe they didn't before, but now they're keeping their options open?
And what conversation would that be?
How a majority of voters have for over a decade consistently backed promises to limit mass migration, yet nothing has been done whilst the political classes cling on to outdated asylum legislation and unaccountable foreign courts and committees who subvert any attempt to address the issue.
How even the suggestion of any form of control or cap on immigration has consistently been silenced by a vocal, privileged minority who scream 'racism' and 'far right' in the absence of any real defence of open borders?
The best way to help our government identify the culprits behind the root causes of this appalling violence would be to hand them a mirror.
Blah blah blah Labour will wave a wand and solve the problem. The conflation is as clear as day - people will take to the steeets when they are ignored and mischaracterised and treated with contempt. The MP woman is half witted.
Well, she is Labour.
Blair, Barbara Roche - immigration immigration immigration.
Maybe you should have gone out and voted instead. As it stands the majority of people wanted Labour and believe they are the best choice to fix the many problems 14 years of Tory rule caused.
@@pbysome No, it was John Major that signed the EC agreement that increased the UK immigration just before Blair became UK PM. Nice try though.
As for this 20% bs, where was that in the last 500 UK elections? Oh, yeah you never realised that only once has the ruling party actually got a majority of the people voting for them and that was the war coalition.
Lies, stupidity and bad spelling. You have to do better.
@@pbysome You spell like a 5 year old and wonder why I treat you like a school kid?
Anyway it was an agreement John Major signed that allowed with the EEC that allowed for the increase in immigration to and from Europe. This created the increase which benefited the UK economy and saw the longest run of growth in UK history. No one was moaning at the time.
"It is the habit of tyrants to prefer the company of foreigners, who they perceive as less of a threat, over their own citizens, whom they view as potential enemies" - Aristotle
Labour people need to keep their heads down right now.
labour isnt going hard enough on these council estate dossers. prison life sentence for racism. and they are racist
Really !! After 14 years of Tory incompetence and corruption, you post tripe.
And the Tory voters, what about them? this did not happen in the last month!
Tricky if you are the government
Reform lost, get used to it.
Reform UK voters too
74,000 peaceful people of all races, ages and religions attended the United the Kingdom rally in London on the 27th. It was a great day where we engaged with each other, learnt about each others lives and our backgrounds and shared a day enjoying British values and patriotism.
A counter protest called us Nazis and Mainstream media branded us Far Right. That is a total miscarriage of terminology and ridiculously lazy journalism. People try to make their voices heard peacefully but the mainstream media and politicians don’t want to hear it.
These riots are insane, no right minded person would condone it but the frustration of not being heard on issues of uncontrolled mass immigration for 15+ years have finally exploded. Starmar has been wreckless beyond belief with his speeches aswell.
Starmers depiction of the indigenous people is corrosive and has not defused this situation and made society even more bitter.
*IMMIGRATION. ISN'T. AN. ISSSUE.*
Maybe if any politicians spoke about it honestly, racism wouldn't be so widely prevalent.
Why is she rocking backwards and forwards?
Because she's deranged like the rest of the labour party.
Nervous liar?
Seasickness from Scarborough & Whitby.
It’s a nervous reaction, she’s trying to calm herself because she’s anxious. She may be lying.
Or she just has adhd or some other thing that causes people to struggle to stay still
The conversation can only happen if government and media stop labelling anyone who raises concerns as far right or racist. Violence is never the answer.
Not far right. Normal people. Disgusting name calling.
The press and broadcasters aren't helping by trying to justify, in even the smallest way, the criminality we witnessed over the weekend. It had nothing to do with small boats or immigration. The criminals burned a library that was also a foodbank, people's cars, looted buildings, attacked people of colour and attacked the police. To conflate rioting with a debate about immigration is insulting.
STARMER OUT. TANKED THE COUNTRY IN UNDER A MONTH
Absolutely spot on !
Let’s get Liz Truss back !!!!😂
If your significant other can't leave the house without being unfaithful to you over a period of decades, then conversation it never going to achieve anything.
idc colour ppls skin but if yr unemployed 6months yr sent back yr home nation
If you're gonna be here mate, at least learn the language for god sake
This Labour MP has no idea about working people of Britain. Workers only get action when they take to the streets - from the middle ages onwards, it has been the same - how did women get the vote - it was violence on the street.
Can be Resolved swift & diplomatically
1. Tell France to stop $500 billion Colonial Tax money out of Africa. Let africa rebuild its economy over 10 years.
2. From mid east to Pakistan have local govs every 100 mile circumference to oversee development, population stats in line with resources - self governance.
Completely stems need to migrate
Instead money UK lost in Home grown terrorism, broken asylum system, & Black Market Drug Industry £490 billion over 20 years
Can be reused to establish new trade ventures with South America, China
Listen to people of mid east. They dont want people intefering in their business
Listen to your own people they dont want half world landing in their towns cities
Where was Tommy Robinson? Clickbait?
Steven Yaxley-Lennon, you mean
The conversation has been banned for years, this is why the new leader hasn't adressed it despite the severity.
@@crayontom9687 Sure ordinary people have but if you have a platform and you talk honestly about migration you get banned, smeared etc. When you silence people this is what happens. They are preventing public discussions about migration taking place, especially in the legacy media.
Its simple really, we live in a "democracy" the majority want them out, so if the govenment refuse to enforce that, we are within our rights to fight their authoritarianism.
It is not an idea about immigration. Immigration is to real and to many.
About time Brits woke up!
No thanks
lol you just called brits woke
@@atelierbunny he said "woke up" can't you read
I thought you lot didn't like woke?
To reveal racist attacks on the innocent. Truly something to be proud of huh???
I mean, it's not completely separate. Some of us have been worried about this for decades - immigration has been a hot button issue for a very large portion of the populace (albeit not me, personally) pretty much constantly in that time, and it has never been seriously addressed by the government, indeed, if anything they have just been dismissed. When you ignore concerns of the populace consistently, _that's_ when a particularly nasty type of person takes advantage of the vacuum. They are then able to harness that into violence. Which is what we are seeing now.
It's not a politician's job to treat the world as they want it to be - they have to treat it as it actually is, and then work from there to improve it. When you listen to or read many interviews with the people at these demonstrations which turn feral, there are clearly plenty of people there who can't meaningfully be labelled far right or thugs. And yet there they are, rubbing shoulders with people who are both pretty extreme and violent. Why is that? It's because there has been a serious failure at the macro level.
Now they wanna talk lol
THE CONVERSATION LEADS NOWHERE. GET THEM OUT
Starmer is a disgrace with his attitude and the people are not having it anymore.
We will feel the full weight of the law, but not if your an ethnic minority - in case they get upset. Starmer was a lawyer, if he doesn't understand why the law should be dispensed evenly it suggests he wasn't a very good one......
The silent majority who are decent, hard working, honest citizens have legitimate concerns about the stochastic terrorism of sitting MP Farage.
Bingo
Was the guy that blew the kids up in manchester a good citizen. Or the guy that butchered those kids in Southport.
You can't know that. He'll probably be Prime Minister within ten years.
@@dalecrocker3213 I really hope not
@@dalecrocker3213 No he won't.
"Sure, we can discuss immigration, but it's not stopping, ever!"
Maybe they can be housed in Starma's backyard then getting freebees and taking years for debates and decisions ?
There must be some royal grounds they could be barracked waiting their day in court ?
there has been more than enough time for conversation. That time has passed. Yet all Stamer has to do is stop the boats and he can start to put things right. However the more you keep labelling decent working normal people of England far-right the more damage you, and the media, will do. This is on you and the politicians
Chickens finally coming home to roost for Little England, it seems.
You reap what you sow.
Rioting and arsen is not decent
@@secretcircusofficial "concerned citizens" as they like to call themselves.
Need to get down to the job centre the lot of them.
So how many people were picked up crossing last year?
@@secretcircusofficial Absolutely agree. But don't forget when BLM rioted Starmer took the knee to them lol So did many police. When Leeds rioted, no consequences. List goes on and on. Two Tier Starmer is proving his name more and more everyday
Could be worse.I could be a Leftie idiot who doesn't know what Fascism means.
What, like yourself?
Statistically those on the left have a higher level of education and score higher on IQ testing. So chances are if you were more intelligent you would be a leftie.
Duno y the conversation over the boats arriving 😂
First back in the day immigrants were bought in against their will. Now they come willingly saving costs😂
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Two Tier Keir
The real issue is always lost in endless caveats....'they're not clear what they mean'. No, they are afraid to speak their minds.
Maggie
Neo Liberalism
Globalisation
Privatisation
BANK BAILOUTS
Austerity
Austerity
More Austerity
Even More Austerity
communist unions, 3 day week, double digit inflation, nationalisation, winter of discontent
The British people need to wake up and seek out the people responsible........all MP's.
Why is it being called rioting by far right thugs? Has anyone asked the many rioters for their political affiliation?
Time for talking is over, they don’t listen.
More political manipulation rather than accepting the British public want to be heard. Politics is about acting for the people???? Not self serving authoritarian nonsense. Who pays your salary?
Waited for your conversation for 25yrs
Direct action NOW
What are they seeking asylum from in France ?
I'm so far right that I'm stood to your left!!
I remember around three years ago a Muslim being arrested In Birmingham. A crowd of Muslims formed outside the police station, their representative entered spoke to the deck sergeant, who made a telephone call then set the Muslim prisoner free. On enquiry it turned out that the Muslim representative had told the sergeant that if the prisoner wasn’t released he couldn’t guarantee that the crowd wouldn’t riot and if they rioted the riots may spread. On passing on the message the sergeant was told to release the prisoner.
I believe this attitude is behind the two tier policing. Those in charge are aware that some communities are liable to riot and need to be treated with kid gloves while the long suffering native British community can be bullied around as they have little history of rioting or civil disorder.
How many debats do we have to have before we stop anymore coming in
Politicians please listen! Enough immigration.
The English voted for the Kleptomaniacal Gangsters in Suits Tory Party for 14 years whilst Immigration soared you Joker
It cant be conflated...considering these riots are a direct result of lack of a conversation...the two are intrinsically linked....people get angery when they are made to feel like their opinions dont matter. The only conversation thats been had is with people who all agree with each other.....thats not a conversation...thats an echo chamber.
Mass treason against the native people and citizens of UK has been committed by the ministers from all parties. we must stand united and hold them accountable
My local council brought a £450,000 house and put boat people init, average house price in my area £220,000
You could not make this stuff up!
It's hard to tell who's a sophist and who's a bot reading from a script these days.
One thing i do know, is that they don't like being called "far right" because it hurts their little rebrand.
People dont like being lied to and manipulated, but obviously you enjoy it.
@@sonofsomerset1695 Ive actually been in the areas where these riots have happened. I have seen it first hand. They are far right. If that hurts your ego or your world view then good.
You got to think though - the russian bots and the far right are the ones that are trying to claim that these stories are un true so if you are side with them, Well - Where some people call them "concerned citizens", others might call people who damage cities, attack the police and burn cars and building - Traitors.
Sometimes I wonder if some are bots arguing with bots. I'm sure that's happening.
Do you seriously think wanting less immigration, controlling our borders and actually checking who comes into the country makes someone 'Far-Right'?
@@sonofsomerset1695 you are a sophist, im guessing
Nothing to do with the imminent currency collapse.Look over there-
Interesting throw away statement 🤔
UK has fallen Kremlin Gangs now. 🤣🤣
We have voted for legal immigration to be reduced for many years but although promising it in their manifestos once elected, governments of all stripes have ignored the electorate.
Then they cannot deal with illegal immigration.
Do not blame the people, we are never listened to. Starmer's inflammatory speech calling the British people far right is what has caused outrage
did anyone notice every single rioter was a council estate dosser?
So now not Far Right but Council Estate Dossers, that is exactly why there is trouble on the streets. The Dossers as you like to call them have been ignored and called names
@cyberash3000 And you are part of the problem.
And those “council estate dossers” are ten times the person you are. It’s called being British.
@@Lappy-uz9yt It's an awful thing to say! makes my blood boil. When it does kick off they are the very geezers you want standing next to you!!!
@@MR.TEA.-bw4ps I agree the cost of housing is ridiculous. We have Thatcher to blame for all of it, she took away rent controls, allowed house prices to rise way above earnings and the selling of council housing was an absolute scandal that should never have been allowed. Resulting in how right to buy has fuelled a 40-year housing crisis.
Starmer needs to step down there s no far right just upset British people 😊
Has nobody noticed that rioters all seem to be a certain male of a certain age who would appear not to be actually working.
Not working on a Sunday.
Hmm... similar to the migrants who are almost all men, without jobs, and are disproportionally more responsible for crime? 🤔
No
What gender are you today? Keep off mummy and daddies WiFi!
One of the solutions would be to house asylum seekers who arrive on a beach in wealthy middle class areas such as Knightsbridge etc so that the benefits can be spread. It’s not fair that poor communities get all the benefits
This makes Russian propaganda seem like the truth
Don't want to burst your bubble, but we get waaaay more propaganda over here 😂