This won't work as you expected. The battery is only 12v but the solar panel is 21v. If you connect them the way you connected in the video, in parallel via adapter, the output will be close to 12v. It will be recognized as car charger by EcoFlow. The total input, allowed by EcoFlow, will be 100W in this case. I think you should use two batteries and connect them in series, so that the output of batteries will be 24v, then use the adapter you used in the video to connect to solar panel in parallel. Then the total output will be close to 22v. This setup should be recognized by EcoFlow as Solar. Hence the intake will be increased to 200W. One important thing to consider is, when you connect two different power source together *you should consider connect a diode at the positive output of each power source, when the voltage is too different.* The diode will make sure the current is only going one way. Otherwise, when the two power sources' voltage is too different. It will be like the high voltage source charging the low voltage one. Since the internal resistance of power source is low, this will cause over heating. In this case, diode will close up the low voltage power source to make sure the safety of the circuit.
You are quite right. I simply showing that you could connect two power sources at once. With the right adapters you can do a lot. Thank you for that information.
Thanks for the video and the reply. This is exactly what I wanted to do. Combine the cables from the solar panel and the cigarette lighter into one. But now I see the issues with this. What size diodes should be used? The idea is to protect one power source from the other, right? So the diode on one cable should match the voltage (or amps) of the other joined cable. Since the limit on my delta input is 10 amps, then a 10 amp diode (1000V) should be ok, safe?
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow I just ordered that splitter cable, I'm gonna try and add my portable solar panels to the one installed on the roof... Let's see how it turns out
Ecoflows use a xt60i connectors to let more power go into their units. I have a Ecoflow Delta Mini it's input is 11-75 volts at 10 amps max. Using a Y-adapter cable with the xt60i connector and 3rd lead connected to ground, thus enabling the ecoflow to sense this is solar input not a car charger input, you will be able to get more input into the unit. But I would not do this in parallel, I would hook it up in series to keep the amperage under the 10 amps max for mine. With the xt60 connector the Ecoflow will always think it's a car charging cable and limit you to 8 amp input at 12 volts which equals 96 watts max. And here is a kicker the XT60i connector that comes with the Ecoflow's car adapter, the 3rd lead is not connected, thus you can't just cut off the car adapter end and make a y-cable out of it. I have my unit connected to 2 195 watt panels in series to keep amps under 10 and voltage is around 40 volts going into the unit letting me charge the unit with 350 watts max input. (not 400 watts because the MPPT controller on board will ignore more than max allowed input) Sorry for the wall of text but I have been dealing with trying to figure out the best way to charge the unit also. A DC-DC 12/24 converter connected to car battery would be the best way to charge this on the go and when your camping then connect to solar.
Good evening sir, let me share what I researched regarding charging my ecoflow delta mini. When plugged into sigarette adapter ecoflow will charge at around 100watts due to the ecoflow car charging limit of 8amp current(you can see it in the app). That's why when you connected solar and car battery at the same time it went up to only 102watts , basically it identified it as a sigarette connection and limits it at 100watts. They had 10amp limit before ,but they had to reduce it , because some cars have 10amp 120watt max outlets and pulling 10amps might blow fuses and melt the wires. You can connect two 12v sources of power using the adapter ,but ecoflow will recognize it as sigarette plug based on a 12-14volts output of these sources. Solar panels on the other hand can charge up to 200W 10-25Vdc 12A Max for river pro and 300W 11-75V DC 10A max for delta mini. I guess you know about parallel and series types of connections. With solar usually outputting about 60-80% of rated wattage you can go with slightly more like 300watts for pro and 400w for delta mini. Ecoflow actually recommends using 400w panel for the mini and they said that you can exceed the wattage slightly as long as you don't go over the max voltage. 200watt panel has 27volt max and it should be able to charge your river pro up to 170watts or so on a sunny day. If you don't want to use solar ,but need to charge your ecoflow faster from the car you can use 300w bestek pure sine inverter ,but you need to hardwire it directly to the battery or use alligator clips. You have to use proper gauge wires for this setup. This way you can feed up to 300w to the power station using ac charging from the bestek inverter. It's better to have a deep cycle battery connected to the car's main battery to reduce the load on the alternator. The best thing to do is to use a dc to dc charger with the built in mppt controller so you can keep your deep cycle battery charged from two sources simultaneously. Another way to charge faster is to connect two 12v batteries in series , this will increase voltage to 24-27 volts and ecoflow will think it's solar and will accept 200watts or even more. I'm still in the process of building my system and researching my options, but i wanted to share what I dug up so far. Hobotech has a video about bestek inverter ac charging,check it out. Feel free to ask any questions that you might have, also ecoflow chat is pretty helpful. Good luck.
my tought was like you sead, to have a separate 20ah lipo battery wich is conected with dc charger to main , on this baterry also solar panel, then a line to ecoflow. do you have any good advice on good cheaper dc dc charger?
Awesome video Paul. I love the way you present things and do mostly videos on one thing. You are my “go-to” guy on all things Eco-flow. Keep up the great work and the way you do videos. Have a great day sir!
I have 2 Delta pros and the double voltage hub. do you think it would be possible to back feed wall outlet into the hub as an extra way to charge? Like suicide plug, to connects to the x stream port on the DP. I wish they would make an x stream to 30 amp adapter for generators to fast charge. or extra battery port plug. My generator has 30 amp and two 15amp. at 6500 running watts pure sine wave. It would be nice to use both for faster charging if no solar. What do you think? Subbed!
Great !!! You hit the spot !!, now I can expand the capacity of the EF while charging it at the same time !! I was wondering that idea as well … oh, BTW , does that solar pannel has a power controller or it’s hooked up directly ?, Thank you for sharing !!✌️😎👍
You can only do this with a very small solar panel. Anything over a few hundred watts will burn out the battery. Solar panels put out much higher voltage than the battery and they are all connected with this adapter.
Looking for an update do you happen to know if EcoFlow Nerf this capability to plug 12 V car batteries into the X 60i? When I do it it charges it about 300 W for about two or three minutes and then it stops and zeros out again every 30 seconds and fails. I think that EcoFlow may have updated the software to break this workaround
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow The ecoflow will not overcharge because it has a charge controller to prevent overcharge. The 12 volt external battery would need a charge controller to prevent overcharging. Now you can get charge how you have it but just note without a charge controller on the external battery it could get overcharged if you were to add more solar panels to this setup.
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow Think about it, why does the Ecoflow need a solar charge controller? Because the Ecoflow is a battery, therefore your 12 volt lead acid is also a battery and would need a solar charge controller also!
Current is flowing just one way, into the ecoflow, in this configuration. Not back into the 12v battery. To charge the backup battery I use a trickle charger that has a charge controller. Good thoughts. 👍
how do you know if its prioritizing the power from the solar battery first over the car battery in full sun light? I assume it's because the solar voltage is much higher than the car battery voltage? Does this mess with the internal MPPT charge controller on the battery?
Also ecoflow can be charged from two sources simultaneously. You can hook up ac from inverter and connect solar it will combine the power and will charge much faster. Here is what I found on one of the forums: "I have a Delta Pro and am active in the EcoFlow community. A lot of people leave solar connected 24x7. You absolute CAN charge via AC and solar at the same time. The charge rate is the sum of AC + DC. With that said, the AC power is always passed through to the output (hence the 1800W limit) when AC input is connected. There is currently no way to tell it to prioritize solar power when solar power is available, but a lot of people have requested this feature. There is a workaround that some people have done, which is to put the AC input on a smart outlet and schedule it to only turn on when it's dark. That way during the day, it's only running off of solar/battery, then at night, it can run from grid. It does sound like that the AC300 already has the feature you want for your use case though."
Is there any risk to the ecoflow by doing this? I only have 100w of solar so it will always be to my advantage to charge from the alternator while in driving. It would be great to be able to leave this hooked up all the time and have it "swap" to solar when the car is off.
Thank you for asking. Just search on Amazon for female to dual male xt60 adaptor. Of course in addition to this three way adaptor you will need the battery clamp to female xt60 adaptor to hook up a backup battery. -see prior video on unlimited power. 😁
Be aware that you will kill your battery without control over it`s voltage. Further, you were practicaly completing the Watts that a 100W solar panel can deliver with the help of that battery. So there were no losses, but just a limitation of the panel itself.
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow I would use the 12 volt car charging cable that came with my Delta 1300 that goes from the cars cig lighter to the Delta. I would use a cable like you’re using in the video so I could connect the rooftop 200 watts of solar panels as well as the car charging cable.
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow Ecoflow says you can’t charge the Delta 1300 with solar and cars cig lighter at same time. Some are doing interesting things with Delta 1300’s that aren’t approved by Ecoflow so I thought I would check with you.
That's all good, but I'm not sure mixing battery chemistry is a good idea. That ecoflow uses Lithium batteries, and it looks like that is a lead acid battery.
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Thank you for another video ! Your thinking outside of the box makes this unit so much better
T60i is what you needed Not the cheaper T60
Yes the xt60i is the latest version.
This won't work as you expected. The battery is only 12v but the solar panel is 21v. If you connect them the way you connected in the video, in parallel via adapter, the output will be close to 12v. It will be recognized as car charger by EcoFlow. The total input, allowed by EcoFlow, will be 100W in this case. I think you should use two batteries and connect them in series, so that the output of batteries will be 24v, then use the adapter you used in the video to connect to solar panel in parallel. Then the total output will be close to 22v. This setup should be recognized by EcoFlow as Solar. Hence the intake will be increased to 200W. One important thing to consider is, when you connect two different power source together *you should consider connect a diode at the positive output of each power source, when the voltage is too different.* The diode will make sure the current is only going one way. Otherwise, when the two power sources' voltage is too different. It will be like the high voltage source charging the low voltage one. Since the internal resistance of power source is low, this will cause over heating. In this case, diode will close up the low voltage power source to make sure the safety of the circuit.
You are quite right. I simply showing that you could connect two power sources at once. With the right adapters you can do a lot. Thank you for that information.
Thanks for the video and the reply. This is exactly what I wanted to do. Combine the cables from the solar panel and the cigarette lighter into one. But now I see the issues with this. What size diodes should be used? The idea is to protect one power source from the other, right? So the diode on one cable should match the voltage (or amps) of the other joined cable. Since the limit on my delta input is 10 amps, then a 10 amp diode (1000V) should be ok, safe?
Well if you run both dc power sources into a mppt before inputting into the ecoflow that should regulate both.
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow You will need two mppt's then...
Solar is 18v
I have the same Solar Panel, its great, gives me almost 90watts on a clear sunny day, thanks for the idea of doubling up the input :)
Hooking up two 100w solar panels would be a great test with that adaptor.
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow I just ordered that splitter cable, I'm gonna try and add my portable solar panels to the one installed on the roof... Let's see how it turns out
Let me know
I have a 150 watt panel,most I got in so far was only 85
Energy loss. Normal.
Ecoflows use a xt60i connectors to let more power go into their units. I have a Ecoflow Delta Mini it's input is 11-75 volts at 10 amps max. Using a Y-adapter cable with the xt60i connector and 3rd lead connected to ground, thus enabling the ecoflow to sense this is solar input not a car charger input, you will be able to get more input into the unit. But I would not do this in parallel, I would hook it up in series to keep the amperage under the 10 amps max for mine. With the xt60 connector the Ecoflow will always think it's a car charging cable and limit you to 8 amp input at 12 volts which equals 96 watts max. And here is a kicker the XT60i connector that comes with the Ecoflow's car adapter, the 3rd lead is not connected, thus you can't just cut off the car adapter end and make a y-cable out of it. I have my unit connected to 2 195 watt panels in series to keep amps under 10 and voltage is around 40 volts going into the unit letting me charge the unit with 350 watts max input. (not 400 watts because the MPPT controller on board will ignore more than max allowed input)
Sorry for the wall of text but I have been dealing with trying to figure out the best way to charge the unit also. A DC-DC 12/24 converter connected to car battery would be the best way to charge this on the go and when your camping then connect to solar.
Thank you brother!!!!
Your welcome!
Good evening sir, let me share what I researched regarding charging my ecoflow delta mini. When plugged into sigarette adapter ecoflow will charge at around 100watts due to the ecoflow car charging limit of 8amp current(you can see it in the app). That's why when you connected solar and car battery at the same time it went up to only 102watts , basically it identified it as a sigarette connection and limits it at 100watts. They had 10amp limit before ,but they had to reduce it , because some cars have 10amp 120watt max outlets and pulling 10amps might blow fuses and melt the wires. You can connect two 12v sources of power using the adapter ,but ecoflow will recognize it as sigarette plug based on a 12-14volts output of these sources. Solar panels on the other hand can charge up to 200W 10-25Vdc 12A Max for river pro and 300W 11-75V DC 10A max for delta mini. I guess you know about parallel and series types of connections. With solar usually outputting about 60-80% of rated wattage you can go with slightly more like 300watts for pro and 400w for delta mini. Ecoflow actually recommends using 400w panel for the mini and they said that you can exceed the wattage slightly as long as you don't go over the max voltage. 200watt panel has 27volt max and it should be able to charge your river pro up to 170watts or so on a sunny day. If you don't want to use solar ,but need to charge your ecoflow faster from the car you can use 300w bestek pure sine inverter ,but you need to hardwire it directly to the battery or use alligator clips. You have to use proper gauge wires for this setup. This way you can feed up to 300w to the power station using ac charging from the bestek inverter. It's better to have a deep cycle battery connected to the car's main battery to reduce the load on the alternator. The best thing to do is to use a dc to dc charger with the built in mppt controller so you can keep your deep cycle battery charged from two sources simultaneously. Another way to charge faster is to connect two 12v batteries in series , this will increase voltage to 24-27 volts and ecoflow will think it's solar and will accept 200watts or even more. I'm still in the process of building my system and researching my options, but i wanted to share what I dug up so far. Hobotech has a video about bestek inverter ac charging,check it out. Feel free to ask any questions that you might have, also ecoflow chat is pretty helpful. Good luck.
Thank you. You put a lot of effort in your response. Good research. 👍
my tought was like you sead, to have a separate 20ah lipo battery wich is conected with dc charger to main , on this baterry also solar panel, then a line to ecoflow. do you have any good advice on good cheaper dc dc charger?
I have not needed a DC to DC charger yet but I would with the hobby websites.
Awesome video Paul. I love the way you present things and do mostly videos on one thing. You are my “go-to” guy on all things Eco-flow. Keep up the great work and the way you do videos. Have a great day sir!
I have 2 Delta pros and the double voltage hub. do you think it would be possible to back feed wall outlet into the hub as an extra way to charge? Like suicide plug, to connects to the x stream port on the DP. I wish they would make an x stream to 30 amp adapter for generators to fast charge. or extra battery port plug. My generator has 30 amp and two 15amp. at 6500 running watts pure sine wave. It would be nice to use both for faster charging if no solar. What do you think? Subbed!
The hub doesn't have a input port that I know of.
Great !!! You hit the spot !!, now I can expand the capacity of the EF while charging it at the same time !! I was wondering that idea as well … oh, BTW , does that solar pannel has a power controller or it’s hooked up directly ?,
Thank you for sharing !!✌️😎👍
Glad to help. Thanks for Visiting and Watching.
Yes it has its own mppt
Smart...
That's great. Can you reply back with links to all of the adapters and cables needed to do this? Thanks
See Adaptor review video on my channel for that information. Thanks for your interest.
Where can you really get those connectors? Make them yourself! Learning to solder is a great skill to have under your belt.
Amazon or rc battery
You can only do this with a very small solar panel. Anything over a few hundred watts will burn out the battery. Solar panels put out much higher voltage than the battery and they are all connected with this adapter.
This was a demo with a 120w panel 18v
Looking for an update do you happen to know if EcoFlow Nerf this capability to plug 12 V car batteries into the X 60i? When I do it it charges it about 300 W for about two or three minutes and then it stops and zeros out again every 30 seconds and fails. I think that EcoFlow may have updated the software to break this workaround
Do not exceed the voltage limit or you could fry something. The amp limit is pretty soft but the voltage is a hard limit.
True. Ecoflow has protection for this.
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow The ecoflow will not overcharge because it has a charge controller to prevent overcharge. The 12 volt external battery would need a charge controller to prevent overcharging. Now you can get charge how you have it but just note without a charge controller on the external battery it could get overcharged if you were to add more solar panels to this setup.
In this setup the battery is only meant to charge the Ecoflow. In this configuration no charge controller is needed that I can see.
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow Think about it, why does the Ecoflow need a solar charge controller? Because the Ecoflow is a battery, therefore your 12 volt lead acid is also a battery and would need a solar charge controller also!
Current is flowing just one way, into the ecoflow, in this configuration. Not back into the 12v battery. To charge the backup battery I use a trickle charger that has a charge controller. Good thoughts. 👍
Nice.
Thank you! Cheers!
how do you know if its prioritizing the power from the solar battery first over the car battery in full sun light? I assume it's because the solar voltage is much higher than the car battery voltage? Does this mess with the internal MPPT charge controller on the battery?
It's the order. I started with solar.
Also ecoflow can be charged from two sources simultaneously. You can hook up ac from inverter and connect solar it will combine the power and will charge much faster. Here is what I found on one of the forums:
"I have a Delta Pro and am active in the EcoFlow community. A lot of people leave solar connected 24x7. You absolute CAN charge via AC and solar at the same time. The charge rate is the sum of AC + DC. With that said, the AC power is always passed through to the output (hence the 1800W limit) when AC input is connected. There is currently no way to tell it to prioritize solar power when solar power is available, but a lot of people have requested this feature. There is a workaround that some people have done, which is to put the AC input on a smart outlet and schedule it to only turn on when it's dark. That way during the day, it's only running off of solar/battery, then at night, it can run from grid. It does sound like that the AC300 already has the feature you want for your use case though."
Ecoflow charges so fast from ac why would you need a second source of power to help charge? 400- 600 watts from ac is hard to beat. Great comments. 👍
Is there any risk to the ecoflow by doing this? I only have 100w of solar so it will always be to my advantage to charge from the alternator while in driving. It would be great to be able to leave this hooked up all the time and have it "swap" to solar when the car is off.
I've changed my river pro multiple times with no issues.
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Will this damage the solar generator
Not in my experience. Or that I have seen.
can it be charged using a battery while the battery is being charged on the solar panel
Good question. I'll research that. Thank you.
Where is the link to the adaptor on Amazon you mentioned?
Thank you for asking. Just search on Amazon for female to dual male xt60 adaptor. Of course in addition to this three way adaptor you will need the battery clamp to female xt60 adaptor to hook up a backup battery. -see prior video on unlimited power. 😁
Can you do this with the delta max?
Yes. It should have a xt60 charging port.
Be aware that you will kill your battery without control over it`s voltage. Further, you were practicaly completing the Watts that a 100W solar panel can deliver with the help of that battery. So there were no losses, but just a limitation of the panel itself.
Thanks. Ecoflow has built in voltage limiter. Stepping down the voltage as needed.
Can I charge my Delta 1300 from two 100 watt solar panels and my car at the same time using this cable?
How are you planning to connect the car? If it's just by clmps on the battery then into the xt60 connector probably.
You might need a controller between the car battery and the ecoflow especially if the car is running.
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow I would use the 12 volt car charging cable that came with my Delta 1300 that goes from the cars cig lighter to the Delta. I would use a cable like you’re using in the video so I could connect the rooftop 200 watts of solar panels as well as the car charging cable.
It take up to what ever your solar charging limit is.
@@HarringtonMediaEcoFlow Ecoflow says you can’t charge the Delta 1300 with solar and cars cig lighter at same time. Some are doing interesting things with Delta 1300’s that aren’t approved by Ecoflow so I thought I would check with you.
You should try 2 inputs from the 12v car charger 12 volt output. So 2 inputs from the car's 12v cigarette lighter output and see if it can handle it.
I'll give that some thought. 😁
It's not really unlimited depends on sun really being g shiney
That's all good, but I'm not sure mixing battery chemistry is a good idea. That ecoflow uses Lithium batteries, and it looks like that is a lead acid battery.
DC power is DC power. The controllers inside the solar generator regulate the flow.
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you wrong
There are many ways to charge.