LET'S ARGUE: Cardi B Is Only Successful Cuz She's A Woman!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- Other topics include J Dilla's Donuts being mediocre and Trent Reznor being as culturally significant as David Bowie one day.
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LET'S ARGUE: Cardi B makes music for women who clap per syllable when arguing
Biendo Vargaso FAX
This is Let’s Argue, not Let’s Agree
Gamelunatic1992 dumb FAX
Which is a lot of them, the ones that say "nigga" lol
facts
If DAMN was released by Kero Kero Bonito you would’ve given it a 10
Let's Agree
Best comment I've seen ever
When this comment hit me
I felt it.
Man, this is 😂
I feel like Keenan at the end of Keenan and kel. “Kel, grab me two keros, a bonito, some fear and love, and meet me in the studio about 2AM”
Anthony Fantano is only successful because he is a melon!
If he would be CKN, he had only 200 k subscribers.
Copy , paste
Anthony Fantano is only successful because he is a melon!
@@ann-sothomas8567 i didn't copy the other guy if that's what you're implying
@@ann-sothomas8567 Copy , paste?
You would like this Cal mixtape if Anthony made it!
You would like Kamikaze if Kanye West was a transgender woman
You'd give Lana del Rey better reviews if she was a better singer and lyricist!
If JPEGMafia made Let's Argue, you would've asked better questions.
I love how the greenscreen gets worse and worse with every lets argue. Just a few more and we gon be on some thatistheplan shit.
Šimon Hudák anthony playing 5d othello bringing back TITP next year
Rip thatistheplan gone but never forgotten
♥️That👏is👏the👏plan❤️
Anthony Fantano is only popular because he produces a constant stream of quality content
Mint Ramney Let’s Agree
quality content - check
good reviews all the time -
Wholesome
*bursts into laughter*
And them teeth
Cardi B’s persona wouldn’t work if she was male because the bling era is over and males flaunting their looks and success would just be a generic dime a dozen. Her music makes sense in the context that she does it. I’m sure if a man was making the music Beyoncé was making it wouldn’t be nearly as successful or popular either, but that doesn’t really say much about the talent or quality of their respective works.
Jacob Carlin she is essentially flava flav with less talent
The bling era is over???
Frank Ocean is the male Beyonce.
@Benjamin Puljak Nah
@Benjamin Puljak you are correct!
Let's Argue: Fantano's jaw line is an optical illusion
Fat vegan drip
Good point, he's probably standing further away from his jaw line so it appears bigger :O
Illusion level 100
Fantano and I have the same jawline
What jaw line?
If Mudboy was made by someone like Vic Mensa, I still wouldn't be able to name one of his songs.
I clapped because I know rap beefs!
Someone like who?
😂😂😂
Lets argue: Joji is only popular because of his time as filthy frank
Joe Mama I mean probably but he’d be a little popular but not to the extent that he is now
no shit
Wait joji was filthy frank ?
Definitely-because his music is shit.
His music videos are 10x better than the music
What happened to your Pizza Hut mustache?
:'(
He gave it back to Pizza Hut due to Copyright.
It'll be back tomorrow
He noticed we were on to him....they were paying him the whole time. We caught melon in his shady acts
I will not be surprised if he starts to make shirts with this design
If N/O/I/S/E was released by Death Grips you would've given it a better review
Zhoniin TRUE
Although I like it, it arguably would be a lot better if it was made by Death Grips.
Facts
N/O/I/S/E is just trash.
@@ilovecody7514 Eh, it had a few good songs. As usual for Ghostemane albums. He's a decent artist, but he works better from a song basis, not on the flow of an album, imo.
_Do I look like I know what a JPEG is? I just want a picture of a got-dang hot dog._
I sell Jpegs and Jpeg accessories.
That boy ain't right
Why aren't you being questioned for the package bombs, Althony Rightano?
I understand this unfortunate reference
This is where'sthony waldtano
Somebody call Fader!
Bowie and Reznor are both groundbreaking in different ways. In all honesty, I don't think Reznor wants to be "accessible", flashy, and dramatic as Bowie was, and I don't think Bowie would have wanted to be as cold, dark, and serious as Reznor is. That makes Bowie a more household-friendly name as a byproduct, but both are artists doing their thing; one just has a sound that is easier to digest than the other.
Literally one Era of bowie aka ziggy stardust is a flashy type, bowie has been dark and has been in a dark place and created a charector,thin white duke, and yet if someone was dressed as the th in white duke it is still a recodnizable character , not as recodnizable as ziggy but still recodnizable. Also if david bowie aka a person who was a man involved with groupies, and drugs and sexuality is easier to digest than an emo person I mean come on.
I thought Blackstar was pretty dark for Bowie.
If MBDTF was released by Kids See Ghosts you would have given it a better score.
Fantano is only successful because he's vegan
That's probably the least best reason for his success. "Oh wow you don't eat meat? Damn, that's cool" said no one ever.
@... I'm not dumb or smart. Just unfunny.
@@dhill05 I've earnestly said this.
@Stefos Stef Yeah.
Stefos Stef
Yep
Imagine actually thinking Donuts is a mediocre album
It's mediocre compared to his other work, people only praise it so highly because it was the last album he made before he died.
Nah they praise it cos it’s really well made lol, don’t think his death has anything to do with it honestly.
Donuts is beautiful, profound, powerful and soulful. My favorite track is Last Donut Of The Night - that track makes time stand still! It isn’t mediocre or overrated in any way. Long live J Dilla
Dan Bing The sampling on that album is just as inventive as his other beats, if not more inventive, because of the lack of equipment he had. You can’t say a song like Don’t cry or Workinonit aren’t impressive as hell. Many of the songs didn’t even have added drum beats.
Also, not only is the beat work on here fantastic, but you also have the album concept that puts the album in a completely new light. Whether he intended it or not he made a concept album where he reflects on his death without saying a single word, instead opting for vocal samples. In that context, it makes the album a lot more emotionally resonant than it could have been, and makes for some incredibly powerful moments. That, I personally think, edges this above his production on something like the Fantastic vol. 2, or the Shining.
I think people only hate Donuts cuz it's insanely popular and people think they're being cool by hating on it. Same with Illmatic, 3 Feet High and any other album that gets tons of praise all the time
If Iridescence was released by death grips then you would've rated it a 10.
Let's Argue: Sad music will make you feel depressed, but sleepy music will make you want to die.
Lil Peep took some Fentanyl to become Lil Sleep, only he never woke up.
Empire ants. _yer argmunt is inalvid_
Oh shit I forgot about sleepy music
@@MikeDindu y'all sleeping on sleepy music
@@PWNED5805 The best genre
Bowie has his place in the history of art and music that is uniquely his own. Trent Reznor also has his place in the history of art and music that is uniquely his own. Nobody will replace Bowie, just as nobody will replace Reznor.
you are very right sir
Same for Geddy Lee ?
This is a fair assessment. As Melon pointed out Bowie had a ton of different looks and vibes meanwhile TR has had ...varying hair lengths. Trent himself has said that if he can someday be mentioned on not even the same paragraph but the same page as Bowie historically he'll have done ok.
Reznor was great until that with teeth bullshit. That garbage was really pop rock which is very unlike them. Give me "were in this together" or "march of the pigs" all day over that nonsense
Do 'I Hate Mars Bars'.
Although very talented, the melon just will never have the cultural impact as a reviewer like daymdrops. He just doesn't have the look or commercial appeal of a daymdrops. Not to discredit the melon, but I once went to a Halloween party as the melon and was beat to an inch of my life for dressing as a clans men.
The Dilla tweet actually mad me mad tf
That person talking about Trent Reznor and Bowie was so off base, I was reeling from their absolute stupidity.
Trent Reznor is incredible though, even beyond subjectivity, in my opinion.
Because the fact thst bowie was mentoring Reznor in his early days and the fact that God Break Down the Door exist is a competent reason to say, david and trent are the same
I think the person asking the question worded it all wrong. I don't think Trent will ever get the cultural recognition that Bowie got, mostly because I don't think that is achievable for any artist these days. I do think that Reznor is the natural heir to Bowie however. Melon is clearly bias to favouring loud, "Angery" Reznor and has proved it time and time again.
It's not stupidity... more like delusion.
Bowie was consistent till the end, Trent is still in a lull.
That donuts comment was one of the most out of pocket arguments I’ve seen on this series. Its really really sad how even though we live in the “(prod. ____)” era people still have such a lack of appreciation for what truly great producers do
Let’s argue: Melon needs to step his meme game up
Devon Palmer that is the plan...
Indeed.
obligatory melon joke that isn't played out or annoying at all at this point
Dont be a melon-shamer
Sometimes I have no idea who the artists you frequently talk about are, but I listen anyway because your voice is very soothing.
LET’S ARGUE: Anthony is only successful because he’s a melon
Facts
Melon privilege
Hot take: Cal Chachesta is only successful because he lives with Melon. 😝
*LET'S AGREE
i actually have a feeling some people follow him just for his meme status.
Mr Fantano always holds my respect to the highest degree for the way in which he calls people out on their uneducated and biased opinions and why they’re wrong. Fantano always keeps an open mind when it comes to certain ideologies, and if they seem illogical, he’ll say it as it is. Realism is hella importanr in discussions such as these, and Melon will forever hold my respect for his viewpoints and arguments. Bless this man 🙏
As a super NIN/Trent Reznor fan, I can tell you that comment clearly came from a NIN fanboy, who vicariously wants to see Trent live up to that status, simply due to knowing how heavily Bowie influenced his work through out the years. While I wish it weren't the case, I believe you are absolutely right about his influence not reaching the same extent as Bowie's does and will continue to do so.
In regards to the first Tweet, the point was that bias, whether it be subconscious or conscious, can make for a less reliable review, as many individuals are looking to find out whether a piece or record is well made/crafted objectively.
Sheck Wes and Peggy really aren’t that similar lol
😂 that was my tweet and jheez did he roast it
Was just for the craic don't actually believe it, Mudboy was very average
Kieran Power lmao he really went in on you man
@@davidsb1999 couldn't believe how much airtime he gave it and when he ended it with "you, my friend, are on crack" I was like Anthony please I have a family 😭😭😂
Peggy is unique af ... his beats are wild and him music is so left
I really appreciate that you put the title question either first or early on in the video. Just a small thing I've noticed that deserves some props.
5:08 this is the closest we’re getting to a classic review of donuts
Let's argue: Bernie can still win
I thought you said let's argue not let's agree
How
FACTS!
Lets make ignorant statements*
Joan Barsulai Booyah! Real socialism has never been tried, am I right, fellas?
Mick Jenkins just dropped dope album,better rate it strong 8/10
I personally love it, but he is gonna give it a strong 6 or light 7. I would love to get proveb wrong
facts dude. After the first two songs every song went off
Not enough music reviewers are reacting to it man😔
@@josephkuforiji9407 don't worry bruh,melon will review it
Sounded like the clone wars introduction guy at the beginning
another man of culture i see
CONFLICT!!! WAR AT CORUSANT!! A DEFENSIVE RESPOND FORCE LED BY OBI-WAN KENOBI AND ANAKIN SKYWALKER IS SENT TO FACE GENERAL GRIEVOUS
"If this pizza was a steak, you'd like it better"
People who dress like Trent on Halloween are likely to dress that way 364 other days a year too.
Cardi B wouldn’t be Cardi B is she wasn’t a woman so what’s your point, fan letter?
Carti B 🔥🔥🔥
Completely agree about old vs new HipHop, Trent vs David and especially the argument of "This would be this, if that person was that" .....they FUCKING AREN'T. Okay?
Also I didn't actually know that the world knew about the Donouts album haha. I got it when it first came out and I thought it was wicked. But every time I mentioned it I found myself being the only one who knew. To be fair, most of my people aren't into my genre (HipHop) and/or aren't music nuts so... But anyways, I'm glad I want the only one who saw the genius in the point of the album and how significant it was. Thanks for sharing that one!
Lets argue. All audioslave records are amazing
facts.
...like how would trent reznor even become a household name... that would imply he gets a shitload of mainstream success so more people would know him. but I have the feeling he's more underground now than he was at the beginning of his career.
Trent Reznor is an amazing musician and producer and deserves way more cultural cred. He'll never reach that Bowie level though... I mean, we're talking MJ levels of stardom that kinda have to happen organically.
I have no idea why Cardi B is successful, I was late to the party and listened to Bodak Yellow not understanding how it was so popular. Then I heard she was super funny and likable, so checked out a few interviews and didn't understand that hype either. In short: no idea why she's popular.
Big tiddy
I'd like to remind you commentor sir, that twilight was popular.. Kim is still a thing.. Just don't question why things are mainstream they just are.. It doesn't matter if has any talent or any good.
she's popular amongst ratchet black/latina woman and "woke" feminist types who just NPCs
@@buddigabong and men who like-a look at big tiddy
she was a reality tv star that's why probably. people flock to those who have a Kardashian style publicity and all the drama around her. its definitely not bc of her intelligence or musical creativeness.
"kanye west became transgender" - Buzzfeed
1:38
I, too, enjoy Georgraphy, the study of Georges and their physical formations, features, and topographies.
If DAMN was released by Kendrick Lamar, you would give it a 7.
Nine Inch Nails is lowkey making some of the most interesting music today. It's incredibly modern, weird, fun and intriguing what Trent and Atticus have come up with over the last few years. But yeah i don't know if he'll ever replace Bowie.
1:38 Georgraphy was my favourite subject back in the day
I'm glad you called trap/mumble what it really is: pop music. There's nothing wrong with that, I think it just helps create the context in which we should be thinking about avenues modern rap has moved into.
It's not that she's a woman, it's that she popped up at the right time. Nicki's credibility is waning and feminism is at an all-time high in recent years (and Kodak Black was a thing). Perfect time for another female rapper to arrive. Had Cardi shown up even 5 years ago, we'd have forgot about her after one song.
5 years later and she still here
The Beastie Boys had just as much of an impact on hip hop as groups like NWA or Public Enemy
I think what the person is trying to say at 0:31 is that that everyone would judge cardi b by her actual talent if she was a man, but since she's a female in a predominantly male genre people think she makes quality music.
Well said
Which still isn’t true.
I would say that there are plenty of men within hip hop that also don’t have much talent, yet are still famous. So I’d be more inclined to say that the aspect of these people such as their branding and song writing, that perhaps we don’t understand is their reason for fame. There are so many untalented artists that are famous that i doubt its as simple as simply whether they are man or woman.
i would agree if there weren't plenty of trash male rappers with little to no talent who are successful.
DAPHNE as you girls said righteously
There are plenty of men that are untalented
So breaking through as an untalented men is tougher for simple odds statistics
So being a girl and thus facing less completion to get notice as special from a smaller bunch is more useful to her than starting as a lot of other untalented men.
I wish Fantano made playlists based on scores. Like 1-3, 4-6, 7-10
"this sounds like if Bernie Sanders was a rodeo announcer" LMFAO 0:12
10:50 I actually did go as Trent Reznor for Halloween one year by wearing a black shirt and a military jacket and emo wig because the party doubled as a lip-synch challenge! Some got it...but yeah most people gave me a "who are you?" Ah well.
Let's argue: Anthony is only popular because he has a lot of musical knowledge and has a good way of communicating then and his opinions on albums to us.
LET'S ARGUE: If the next episode isn't a 'LET'S AGREE," who's murdering this melon?
So you're dressing up as Waldo for this Halloween.
that trent reznor/bowie take sounds like it was written by someone in the throws of their NIN idolization phase
Lebron James wouldn't be so good at basketball if he wasn't 6'8"
honestly I’m offended that someone would even consider Donuts to be anything less than visionary
6ix9ine is only this successful because hes a unicorn
Nah he's a pack of Skittles
@@NeoGraena if skittles were rapists.
I'm thankful for finding artists through melon.
- Death Grips
- Brochampton
- Battles
- Greta Van Fleet
- Swans
- Swain
- Polyphia
- JPEGMAFIA
Etc.
What groups has the melon introduced your to?
Let’s Argue! Do I take the lifeguard job at Tundra Lodge or apply at Aldi’s? It’s a tough choice I need help
the diamond sea lifeguard
Tundra. Aldi's sucks.
Aldi surprisingly isn't very easy to get into, they prefer to hire people who have worked in retail for a while.
Life Guard
aldis is shit & has weird vibes. go lifeguard duty
trent reznor WILL NOT replace david bowie's influence or probably even come close to it, but I do think he will be remembered as one of the all time greats of music in a sort of similar way to david bowie or like bob dylan
Im glad you are not wearing tight t shirts.
Love this comment
how can you be glad
@@raulperez2308 how can you not
Melon boy do the 'a tribe called quest - scenario' bass intro for your next let's argue
Fantano looks like Waldo - The senior years
My respect after hearing Fantano’s opinion on Dilla’s Donuts album 📈
I mean you can easily swap cardi and put someone else in her place with those beats n “rhymes” and not notice the difference. Meanwhile, Ashanti can sing and has more talent but only sold 24tickets to a recent show. That sucks.
@Billboardguy1 you make valid points. ashanti isn't the strongest example of what i was trying to relay since she hasn't been relevant in a long time. i think my opinion is that i appreciate artists with REAL talent. alicia keys is a stronger example, (or Rhapsody from the rap viewpoint). and yes, i have negative bias against cardi because that "stripper turned rapper" thing doesn't do it for me. also when she was on IG Live talking about how good she pleases her man , and claiming she would win a d*ck sucking contest. Like, no one wants to her that. i can't separate a person from their music and vice versa. she's lasted longer the the standard 15mins of fame; i give her "1hour30mins" of fame before she hits that ceiling and fizzles out.
Donuts has dozens of sampled vocals that could be referencing death and his fear of it. For example one line "It's dat real!", he chops it in such a way that you hear "Is death real?" in the track Stop. I don't believe it's just a beat tape.
I think Trent stands a chance at being the biggest influencer of his era, but Bowie will be a hard thing to top forever.
Kurt kobain
Ive found out about a tone of great music because of you, without your reviews, i wouldnt listen to half the music i do
An interesting decision to claim women shouldn’t rap because they should spend their time cooking and cleaning. Not that I disagree
Roman PG fuck u
"effects Feminism" ????????
Exactly. It would be weird having to say "wow, very cool, thanks mrs Kanye".
Found Waldo
I don't really know shit about hip hop culture or the behind the scenes aspect to the genre, but I'm so interested in it and wish I could better understand the history and obscure artists.
That tweet about Donuts honestly makes me wonder if the person who wrote it has listened to J Dilla’s other material or stuff made by other producers from that time. Most likely someone who just popped a few tracks from it one time and called it.
*Lists class twice*
Premier league current standings:
1. Manchester City
2. Liverpool
3. Chelsea
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Bournemouth
7. Watford
8. Manchester United Lololololol
9. Everton
10. Wolves
20 times
fuck manchester city
But what about the City of England?
Lets AGREE: at 1:40, Class is written twice.
Na she made it cool to be a stripper from the *bronx* 💰
Yeah. I seen so many Bronx strippers get movie deals or label deals since Cardi blew up.
She didn’t make it cool, she made it more accepted.
@@Gamelunatic1992 tru truuuuuuuuuu
I’m in nyc rn
9:11 - yea I 1000% don't see Jermaine Clement dressing up as different versions of Trent Reznor to appear to Bret in his dreams to boost his confidence.
Well, Anthony, Trent Reznor has done a number of things for the music industry outside of NIN, most notably the fact that he brought a good chunk of Goth and industrial musicians into relevancy in their respective groups. Now, I don’t think he’ll replace David Bowie, but you should give him more credit.
Yes, this is the video in which "If __ was __ you'd give it a better review/point." inside joke was born.
Lets argue: Chris Cornell is very underrated despite being very influential, in my opinion he's the Kurt Cobain of grunge
Kurt Cobain is the Kurt Cobain of Grunge...
@@Sksjwbduf it wasnt obvious that I was joking?
@@jackorion7157 nope
Jarvis Cocker is the Liam Gallagher of britpop.
Kurt Cobain is the Chris Cornell of grunge
Slowly becoming a massive Melon fan. He seems truly, and essentially annoyed and exasperated by the shots ppl take here and I'm here for it.
Hate the way cardi b acts and talks too much to even consider liking her.
why is the contrast so high in this video holy shit
you sound extra angry in this one melon who hurt you
Anthony I think these Let's Argue's are taking a toll on your psyche. Each episode features you getting grumpier and grumpier.
Let's argue: *Cardi B's unborn child has a higher IQ than her*
Rat Furnis probably, but our society doesn’t value intelligence; it values wealth and status which she has in spades.
Cardi's kid was born months ago....
Jenna Leigh's Beauty Slam *Fuck* my bad. She has the IQ of a four month old baby...
@@RatFurnis now theres a new unborn baby. So Cardi is mentally back to the womb😂😂
That Donuts take actually makes me physically, viscerally angry
Great video melon but did you really have to say Cardi would be more successful if she was white?
Anonymous User No meme really dies.
I agree with the Donuts opinion so much. Looking at Dilla's legendary status, I first heard Donuts, which was quite uninteresting tbh. Digging deeper, I finally found the music that people look towards while hailing him a genius - his work with Slum Village, Common, ATCQ et al. I guess the opinion on Donuts is biased because of the sentiments attached to it. I just cannot relate to that sentiment.