Twin Commander Flight & Pilot Interview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- We take this 1956 Twin Commander up for a flight and a $100 hamburger and interview the owner John.
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Love the visibility with back-set high wing!
that sight picture is sooo different. ive gotta fly one. beautiful machine
Ahh.. conjures up memories of watching Bob Hoover perform airshow routines in his Shrike Commander 500S. Nicely done Bobby!!
Very professional looking video. I really enjoyed all the different camera angles.
I smiled through this whole video. And that's really saying something! What a spotless, well maintained and well updated Aero Commander! And the captain flew it like it was his favourite ball glove. Perfectly! I knew the yoke was completely different and I'm glad it was commented on. Outstanding choice in upgrade! Perfect video! Brought back old memories.
A true PILOT'S airplane!
I once flew the 560A, 560F, and 680F!
Wonderful aircraft!
Cool set of yokes
I love the Aero Commander. I've flown a similar one a few times myself. Very smooth in typical summer light turbulence. The one I flew was a Turbine version. Good climb and nice cruising speed. IIRC it also uses less fuel than the Orenda's. Classic looks and really amazing aircraft.
Bob, how hard is it to not the throw the camera down and say "Let me fly this sucker"?
Beautiful plane. I have only seen a few of those over the years never flown one. That one is in great shape. If you are going to have a problem it does come after an annual.
It's a very beautiful Commander. I love the aero commanders.
$100 burger LOL. I've had plenty of those, but it's the experience with friends that counts.
Wow this guy's got experience knows the script
as long as the wing spar issues have been dealt with correctly, a Commander is a lovely airplane to fly
Love the GO, GSO, IGSO motors. I was the specialist for accessory cases and supercharger assembly when I was in the GA maintenance field. Always fun in the test cell.
Very, very sweet. Nice bio, history. Good for him. Incredible he equipped three of his kids as pilots.
Another great documentary, Bob
Twin engine high wing! Doesn't get better than that!
Yeah not many of those!
BEAUTIFUL PLANE
The visibility is nice in that aircraft as well.
My parents once lived at the Spruce Creek fly-in community in Florida where the strip was 5,000 x 150. Your video felt like you were landing on a taxi way. FYI: each Florida county got a field of 3 strips of 5k x 150’ during WW2 as the US Military was gearing up for an air war against Germany. Most of the fields if not all were turned over to the counties as the war ended.
Another good one, Bobby! I agree with Brett! It did look like you had to restrain yourself from grabbing the yoke a couple of times. Nice work!
Haha! Nah he knew what he was doing!
First twin, I ever flew. My fath in law owned a aerocommander and a Mahl STOL aircraft I hated with a passion. The Commander was a jewel, perfect for day trips to LAX, SAN, SNA.
The airplane is well maintained and flies very well. Bob Hoover made it famous with his aerobatic demonstrations. I remember seeing a few of these planes at fly-ins.
We do the heating systems for most general aviation cabin class twins. This system is close to obsolete. We can possibly still overhaul this system. I haven't done one in probably 10 years.
I love this plane. The Commander was my favorite besides the J-3 cub my neighbor had. But unfortunately the commander was lost in an incident involving a microburst during takeoff at GCN. Thankfully everyone "walked" away with minor injuries. Sadly the plane was a total loss.
A good landing, but not a great landing. Unfortunate.
Really enjoying the content.. keep up the great work!!
Those airparks where the hangers are really close to the runway not much room for a mistake.
One thing i notice is people that have planes dont just fly .. they live to fly.
The commander pressurised turboprop is a plane to lust after!
Double the cost if yer lucky.
John is a true aviator. Great video.
I used to Bird dog in a Commander, they're one heck of a bird and VERY stable.
John, you the man! I like this video!
Wow a job bagging groceries for a year paid for his PPL. Crazy to think how things have changed.
very true, I make good money working on commercial electronics and paying for flight school up to commercial is ridiculously expensive without taking loans.
I'm currently paying for my flightshool during highschool pumping gas
You can get a private for 7 or 8k. That’s achievable for someone in high school with no other bills to pay
@@glishskiii exactly, with no other financial obligations I pull around 700$ every two weeks and just about every penny goes to flight school, I'd have no way of doing this if I had to pay rent or other bills
My private pilot’s license cost $550.00 thru a college in Texas. Of course that was in 1970. 20,000 hours later has seen training costs skyrocket.
Always liked the Commanders. Try an A56TC if you can find one (43MC). When it comes to fuel burn, these are time machines. I could go, do business and come home in one day, whereas a single might be a day to get there, take care of business, but have to wait until the next morning to return. ATC confused us with an A36 on 3 occasions. Looking down at the Gulf when you're supposed to be in Houston is one thing, but up close and personal with a B-1 is a whole different experience. Thankfully, those B-1 pilots really know how to fly.
Another great flying doodles vid!
Sorry for the formatting (don't know why it's like this). This is kinda long, but...My dad told me & our family this story...He ferried an Aero
Commander in the late 60s or early 70s from Arizona to San Antonio.
There was an issue with the gears & other work the plane needed
before being sold to a buyer in Texas & he was going to do the work in
San Antonio. He decided to make the flight in spite of the gears
inability to retract & the impossibility of working on them at the
departure airport. Over mountains en route he experienced an engine
failure, and shortly thereafter the other engine quit (a fuel system
problem of some sort). Being a registered ferry flight he had a
parachute on but was very reluctant to jump. However, being over
mountainous terrain dad knew he had no choice...until he realized, or
thought, he was too low to open the chute. He uttered a string of
profanity as he climbed back into the left seat and started thinking.
Dad was an incredible pilot & mechanic, flew & worked on the
Howard line of big piston business planes & later in life had a
bunch of STCs on Cessnas & was always restoring one or two 152s or
172s. He could outperform an engineer & had an incredible aviation
mindset. Well, it didn't take him long after sitting back down to push
the primer button, upon which the engine roared back to life! I believe
he said the prop would not feather. Of course the primer only allows a
burst of fuel into the cylinder so he hit the other primer & that
engine also came to life. So, he says, he flew most of the route between
Arizona & San Antonio going from one primer to the other, obtaining
power for just a few seconds on each engine! He also explained how the
primer controls (buttons?) were too far apart to operate simultaneously
necessitating using one at a time. You'd have to know my dad to
understand why he didn't land at the nearest airport. So, any pilots of
older Commanders...Is this even remotely possible? Dad wasn't a liar,
but was known to embellish stories like this for entertainment value.
But when he told us this I got the impression it really did happen. What
do you think? Can an Aero Commander be safely flown with the gears
hanging out? Can it fly at a cruise speed slower than VLE? Are the
primer controls beyond the reach of two extended fingers? Are they
buttons in older Commanders? Thanks!
The twin Commander. Still a nice Airplane. It really is...... I remember Bob Hoover.
The shape of this aircraft makes me wonder how difficult it would be to convert it to amphibious capability?
I'd rather a Grumman Goose if that were the case.
17 at RBD is always a bumpy approach
Great Job John.........see you in January
Great plane, great video and great pilot. Thanks for putting this up. Living on an airpark with your aviation mistress. Liv'in the dream! (Still cheaper than a human mistress).
biscuits n gravy...good eatin'
Man 30 gallons an hour I'm out right there. I'll stick with my 2 1/2 gallon an hour paramotor!
A delightful experience nonetheless though, eh?
Absolutely beautiful!!!...Too rich for me though with that fuel burn. You better be an A&P (IA) to own that.
My favorite plane is a commander 100%
Loving these vids, but "heathy meal"? Come on Bobby, LOL.
My fav
Excelent
will the fuselage slide on the ground on strongly curved runways?
I saw a guy belly land an Aerostar last spring. It held up very well other than both prop strikes. Strong airframe it seems.
So are you through with sailing?
I year for more economical power plants for these birds. It is beautiful... I wish there were videos of these. I also like velocity twin but I never see those bids. The diamond da62 is nice but this frame looks more roomy and comfortable.
Now just gotta find my way to become wealthy to justify it. Until then it’ll be a plane for me and occasional plane rental.
Please include a little more of the exterior detail, cabins and utility of the aircraft in your video.
Nice video! :)
Best video yet!!!!
Curious when your gonna to a flying doodles episode on a STOL aircraft like a Carbon Cub or Maule.
I have a good income but really wish I could still get a private pilot's license on the income that a 17 year old bagging groceries could in his day. I'm looking at $19K to get the base PPL and another $8K for instrument. The older guys were so damn lucky.
Where did John buy those pants from ?
Check in on John and Martha King please!
Damn, are they still alive?
Is this airCommander on sale?
Who watches these just for the flights?
Super
Camera action lol
This is fascinating and I love the story but let me say that the cameras are not balanced during the interview. I am a professional video editor so I apologize. :) Jump cuts are fine now, I am old school but I get it these days. Carry on, love the channel. Wish I had gotten my license, 54 hours in the logbook but ran out of money. This is getting stupid but I am also a professional bass player and I LIKE the bass tone on the track. OK I'm done!
Good advice!
Hmmm, seems like you have a little more elbow room then I do.
For a 56 year, it looks in mint condition.
The pilot or the plane ?
Most of the GA fleet is from the 60s-70s
My friend has a 95-b55 (Beechcraft baron) that’s 42 and yah airplanes retain their value all right that ones might even be better thoug
Dave Shaw lol
Also ikr man it looks beautiful
For me, the aero commander especially the shrike commander, is the most beautiful General Aviation twin ever made.
That would be the DA 62/42 for me
I totally agree I just can’t stop staring at them when I see them!
theEntreriCode the DA62 looks modern and sleek, but it lacks the sheer class and pretty style of the commanders
When the door is open and you look at the cross section of the fuselage the quality of the twin Commander is evident. I’ve always loved them. Especially the shrike.
I agree, I would love to own one one day
I had the great privilege of seeing Bob Hoover do his routine back in the 80s.
He showed me that impossible only means flying a couple of ticks outside the flight envelope. amazing pilot.
Hey Bob. I'd love to hear specs on speeds, flaps, etc during the take offs and landings... Thanks! Go LA Tech... !!!
You sure couldn’t get a license by bagging groceries today. You better have a high paying job if you want to do anything in aviation.
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Beautiful plane. He really takes good care of her.
That's very evident
Jiminy Cricket !!! Ive watched a bunch of UTube takeoffs but this bird is hauling the freakin mail ! I thought Baron's were pretty fast, but this twin is kicking derriere and taking signatures with ease ! OK..I want one. Anybody need a paperboy....grocery bagger....stockbroker ?
That's one narrow runway! Cross winds would be fun.....
Fun plane! Pretty big difference at 30gph vs the 8gph of the Piper. It does look like a smooth, comfortable ride though. Hey, I'd be glad to hear more technical details about the instrumentation, quirks of that make/model, etc. Don't worry about turning off the casual viewer, you're probably getting mostly plane and flight enthusiasts here anyway. :)
A chafed Hydraulic hose, yeah I spent 20 years working as an A&P, I can attest to the fact that its hard to find people who can pay attention to detail.
Bobby, do a Flying Doodles episode on your path to becoming a corperate pilot, and the type ratings, and planes you progressed through.
Seconded!
I love to hear kids going to college for something useful instead of sociology or gender studies.
John was very interesting; I could not take my eyes off the video; my coffee waited; when I said you have upped your game Bobby I mean you have really have topped; living the dream life to the fullest; great great new channel; awesome
Thanks so much for watching! More to come soon!
Hi bobby does your previous stroke mean you cannot touch the controls ever or are you ok with a fully functioning p to date pilot
I wish I had been in that left seat! I took ground school in 8th grade from my science teacher who was a saber pilot in Korea. He was shot down over enemy territory and broke both of his legs when he bailed out. A North Korean family hid him and nursed him back to healthe, but they had no idea how to set the fractures in his legs, so he was hardly able to walk and never flew again. In my science class I jumped right into the flight segment and never left, even though we were supposed to rotate through the several disciplines he was teaching. He mentored my buddy and I and by the end of the year, if we had the money we could have gone for our licenses. Too bad northern one of us could afford the classes. I loved every minute fit, and all of his stories! Thank you Mr. Marsiglia!
Awesome plane! Love the Louisiana shout out! 36 years here for me. Have had a bunch of buddies go through the LA Tech program. Currently flying out of KBTR, KHDC and KNEW myself! Keep up the great vids!
My pilot's license was earned through busing tables and being a security guard.
Oh...mines was earned as a bagger and dishwasher..
Mine was a pot washer at a busy cafeteria and. Tire buster at Sears
I'm amazed. I'm 39 and the flight school here in Houston I went to charges $19K for the basic license. That's not including instrument which is another $8K. Maybe I need to shop around....
@@AshtonCoolman Or these people are old folks. Times have changed
i bet uncle sam payed for everyone else
Commanders are a great plane. Flew right seat in a 690a with a pair of Garrets TPE331 a couple of times. Definitely out of my class. ;-) The commander in this video is very clean! Thx.
I am really enjoying these videos. Good production values. Thanks for making these :-}
The real question is: John, what do you do for a living, and are there any openings?
I had the privilege of flying this airplane with John at Eagle's Nest. Such a fun airplane! It was almost surreal turning that puppy around in steep turns and doing landings in that beast! John and his family are wonderful people. The good noise and acceleration to go with it!
Great video! I love Twin Commanders, something about them...... Thanks for sharing.
Jealous as hell. How do these people come up with all this money? I worked hard my entire life and I can't afford a cub let alone a twin and a massive hangar! Guess I picked the wrong field. Good on you, sir.
I remember Bob Hoover pouring a glass of water into a glass while he was doing aerobatics in this airplane. Amazing. Beautiful Plane.
I was in love with this bird but someone told me about it's very bad reputation so I forgot the idea even to fly one. Looks like everything I'd been told was merely pure nonsense. By the way, there's a noticeable free play between left and right steering yokes for roll. Watch and see.
Where are the dinosaurs thought this plane was eaten
Love the big view from the cockpit engine's sound like heaven
There is no mistaking that "detroit diesel" geared engine sound. It's different for sure. You can't confuse it with any other aircraft engine.
Flew to Ft. Lauderdale Exec? My dad used to fly out of there when I was a toddler. Had the Commander's sister: the Aerostar.
Awesome , his back yard is a runway. Commander The Bob Hoover special and his wonderful coffee pouring while doing acrobatics.
You're gonna give steveo1kinevo a run for his money!
Does the strange, additional structure on the nose have anything to do with a radar...?
Flew with your son at American Eagle back in 2001.
The aero commander factory is a mile from my house.
I SAW A UFO! (Speck of dust on your lens.)
Lol my old man was just talking to me about this guy. He and my mom own a little shop in downtown Mansfield and his daughter is one of his new employees there. He came up there about a week ago and told my dad about the commander. Pretty funny to stumble on this video.
I sent you the subscription to Flight Training Magazine!
John Peroyea awesome!! I’ll be sure to subscribe to it!
Small world.