Lancair 360 Flight & Pilot Interview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2018
- We meet my old college roommate, Curtis and go fly in his Lancair 360. We fly it from Dallas down to San Marcos.
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/ flyingdoodles - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
200kts, 7gph, ipad PFD. Don't know why I still think about buying a certified aircraft. Thanks for including ATC audio and engine sound in this one. Love your videos!
They are pretty good
Forgive the snark, but I'll give ya a couple reasons: 4 seats is one. Fact remains the E-AB market is generally pretty apathetic to the family flyer. it's a DINK/empty nester market. RV-10s priced around that of a used SR-22 is another one. That defeats the purpose of E-AB in the first place (cost cutting).. Cabin comfort would be another one. Big slow cans are comfy, look how they're sitting and overlapping arms in that Lancair. Other than that, agree 100%, I would not have my Arrow if I could find it in the experimental world.
There was an attempt to create a "primary non-commercial" category, as part as the signed legislation by POTUS 44 which was the "part 23 re-write". The category was formal part of the recommendations by the ARC (Aviation Rulemaking Comittee) and mysteriously left out of the implementation when the FAA finally stopped stonewalling their Congressional mandate and implemented the law, a full 2 years late. My conspiracy theory is that neither the FAA nor the aircraft manufacturers want the legacy certified market, the only other market that allows us working stiffs to afford this increasingly unattainable hobby, to continue to survive. They want us all grounded and our certified cans in the scrap yard, and the manufacturers probably lobbied like hell to the FAA to ensure we were never allowed to maintain our certified airplanes under de facto experimental rules. This of course, supports E-AB resale market. Experimental owners are not gonna get up in arms about it, considering they're already smug about being able to fly in the IFR system behind an IPAD, but the second a certified can driver is caught doing the same it's certificate action city; both fly over the same people's heads, so spare me.
Garmin found workarounds in order to sell these previously "experimental avionics" to the certified market (G5 is the most popular example these days) via the STC process, without a formal primary non-commercial category. So they got their carve out too. But to someone with a family, that is little solace if I have to leave my loved ones behind in order to afford the damn thing.
So for now I continue to begrudgingly support the certified market. Making memories with my family is more important than gloating about being able to play in the hobby with a legal thumb in the scale. For full disclosure, I too would be doing it if a two-seater fit my mission, lest I be accused of being a hypocrite.
@@GonzoT38 This is not snark. The 360 makes sense if you're short - while he says he's 6' most say 5'10" or less is enough room. And know you need to know you will never take anything bigger than a purse for luggage. My dog would not fit in the luggage compartment, Not sure if this 360 had the AUS tail modification. Check this post out: www.eaa1000.av.org/fltrpts/lanc360/hq.htm
GonzoAir
I also have a similar story as this guy, I too flew freight in the late 90’s out of Dallas in a MU-2 and then in 2000 I flew Regionals but after 9/11 the business was horrible so I bailed out of that and got into what was then a new business of flying UAV’s for the military. Fast forward
I recently bought a Lancair 235 and will be going back to the regional airlines real soon to resume my aviation career.
Like this guy I bought my Lancair for the porpoise of cross country flying primarily solo in an affordable and fast airplane. In the certified world those two words do not go in the same sentence! Only in the Exp world can you get a fast and affordable machine.
I didn’t take his comments as snarky but rather just laughing at the simplicity of the system that has tremendous capabilities!
Being a commercial pilot I personally would never fly my entire family in anything but a commercial aircraft, period! No way would I even consider flying them all together in a piston airplane, forget it! I’ve seen far too many singles crash killing all aboard and it’s a shame because 99% of those accidents could have been prevented!
If I want to make memories with my family and include aviation we will all fly someplace on a commercial carrier and then enjoy each other’s company!
Now having said that, I will take my family flying with me in my Lancair, one at a time if they desire. My wife loves flying with me, so do my kids, we just don’t do it all together, even if I owned a 4 place with a BRS! Sorry not for this guy.
Hey N102M I’ll see you at Mesa if you are still there, I have an interview in January
Everyone fly safe and keep the dirty side down unless you are flying aerobatics...
I'm pretty much thinking about a lanceair 360 and eventually the IV-p. Dollar for dollar seems to be solid. I was considering an sr22 as well but the speed and efficiency just can't be beat.
I’m sitting watching this on an iPad and he’s operating that aircraft with the same thing as a PFD lol..strange but really cool ! Thanks to Curtis for his hospitality and as always, great video Bobby !
Useful as we narrow down choices for our next plane. We have “a need for speed”! Thanks Doodles. Keep’em coming.
It’s been 4 years
What did you go with ??
The Lancair 235/360's are the sexiest looking aircraft ever designed. This is a dream aircraft for me.
Outstanding time with your college friend and the Lance air 360 , the last time I have seen one is the Reno Air Races.
Nice video and a very interesting interview!!!! I like it so much!!! Fantastic!!!
I like the style and editing. At the end Please include things in the conversation like Trip length with block time and total fuel used. Some of the actual aircraft performance specifics help us fantasize about owning the plane.
Built and soloed first 320 in nc, flew it 2 years, sold it. Good plane with aussie gear and big tail, cs prop. 93’ thru 96’.
another great video Bob; you have found gold with your series; very enjoyable; gives you a little insight to the communications between air traffic control and the pilots; I noticed as soon as Curtis went outside the distance? of the flying club/or airstrip the tower was notified? as a pilot you really must know your landing strips as well; I imagine the electronics really take the guess work out of it
Thanks! Yeah we were under an instrument flight plan and under control of ATC so the Tower hands us off to regional controllers
The magic of video. Bobby's in the part of Thailand that looks a lot like Texas.
Thanks that was a coll little plane !
What a great day for your flight south. The two of you were kind of squeezed into those seats but I’m sure it is comfortable when the right side passenger is smaller! It would seem that the stick was Very sensitive! Fun time!
That's a table cloth. I love this guy. If this man is taking students, I'd sign up!
LoL. "Small tire, never a good landing" Unless you edited any bumps out, that had to be a smooth operator. Nice going fellows!
Nice video, I was hoping you were going to show some of the Lancair fly-in activities that would have been neat to see. Bob do you have a plane?
Too cool, I work for mesa as a FA, I’ve worked with when I was based in Dallas. Take care
Cool airplane! Another extremely fast plane is the Glasair III. With 300 + power is able to fly at 250 mph. Would be awesome to see also this plane.
Nice work, Bobby
Hey Bobby , your old roommate is a hoot!!!
So glad I found your videos!! Dream plane. What type of fpm were you climbing at and what is approach/landing speed? Love it
Bobby’s face at 8:53 is really funny...nice airplane and smooth pilot
Great flight. Reunion... Old times! I'm gonna search your vids for some rv action.
Have you ever flown the single seat rv4 or 6? Modified acrobatic??
This is really cool. How do you record the in flight audio?? Thanks.
Love your videos so thank you again, but you need to get that static figured out! Another good one! Thanks.
Sweet plane 👍
Great plane, i love your videos
Looks like a great flight
obviously, the earpiece on the headset is beginning to disintegrate because for a moment, I thought your ex-roommate put some kind of magic marker on the earpiece, just leave a mark on your ear for the camera like some kind of dorm prank... LOL
always love your videos and I appreciate you showing us a very cool airplane and what a nice opportunity to spend time with your old roommate from college
very best to you, always
I was wondering the same thing about the headset. LOL
Great video
Awesome vid! Who wants a lambo when you can fly your own plane that will melt any Girls heart 🤣
Nice aircraft. I noticed the low approach.
Nice bird, love the videos.
Great vid thanks. Always liked these. I am 6'1 though and barely fit in my MX5. I'll try one out for sure but they might be impractical for me... sad John noises.
Seems like Curtis's headset creates a lot of static when he uses it. Loose connection? Faulty headset?
"Quickie 2"!!! now would be a fun video!(Q-0200)
Bobby, What was Curtis showing for climbout speed along with rate of climb? And were you two full of fuel? Finally, What was Curtis's Empty weight?
Another good one Bobby! How many hours do you two have together from your college days?
Oh not that many together. Mostly we were there flying separately getting instruction
Nice smile on your face.
Crazy not having shoulder harnesses especially for T/off & landing! They sure are quick but too tight & not robust enough for my liking. Before I bought my RV8 I tried one of these, slippery & sexy looking but didn't like the seating position or the tiny wheels which wouldn't work well on anything other than smooth surfaces. RV, best bang for buck:-)
San Marcus is Josh Flowers' (Aviation 101) home base.
I've heard that tower controller in some of Josh's videos.
I smell a collaboration in the works
Love it!!!!
Love your channel. Would really like to see a Piper Comanche. Preferably the 250, but any will do.
I used to own a twin Comanche... great airplane
the 400 would be good as well.
Sweet Plane!!! Thanks
Any chance of getting the complete specs for his Avionics?
Thank you
What is your height and weight? Looking to get into similar aircraft wondering if it’s big enough for me? Great video great info
How is the airspeed from the pitot tube getting displayed on the iPad?
my fav so far... why? Always dreamed of owning a Lancair
What a fun way to get around, so economical if you fly it right. Too bad I'm 6'6" and won't ever fit in one haha.
How often do we fly with our entire family? I just load up the van. If I need to be somewhere quick this is what I would use; not a 172.
what's the cabin width on the Lanc 320 and 360?
You are really making some great content! I am considering becoming a Patreon supporter too!
Hey thanks’. Glad you are enjoying it!
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I think I just got inspired to go for my IFR rating 6:39
What’s the 2 amber lights at the rhs of the cockpit.....over!
You two look like you could be brothers.?
Oh, Dear lord... Tell Curtis that Mark Mummie says "Hi" :-D
I am enjoying your new channel. However, I wish you would consider putting captions on some of these. Radio talk is hard to understand for us non-pilots.
Ok good idea.... thanks!
I would love to talk to Curtis. I am picking up a 320 project and would like his input on a couple of things.
Thanks for making this video about the Lancair 360. I never knew exactly what was meant by an experimental aircraft. I thought it was like a prototype of an airplane that was being tested before being put into production. Now, I understand the meaning of experimental. I can't believe the speed of the airplane and the fuel burn which really extends the range. The cockpit looks extremely cramped with little room to move around. I would not consider taking it on long distances but Curtis seems to do it quite well! Love your videos because they are different from the standard TH-cam videos. I am definitely a subscriber!
Love the…..way He…..a ……talks on a …..the radio a…….
Fancy plane doesn't have a squelch?
There is one for sale for about 90k right now.
No seatbelts?
What kind of headset was the Pilot in command wearing? Those were really comfortable looking.
Ben Hansen it looks like a Clarity Aloft to me, it’s what I use as well. For long flights it’s very comfortable, more so than the typical over the ear types in my opinion anyways..
Why did you fly IFR
Assuming the pilot has a Commercial ticket, can Experimentals be certified for Commercial use or only Private (non paying) use?? sdh at BDL in CT
steve holton no- experimental and limited category aircraft are not permitted for the use in commercial operations.
Bobby, how come they never let you fly?
Cool video! I'm used to flying on Boeing 737 aircraft. How different is it flying in a small plane like this than it is flying in a Boeing 737 or other jetliner?
I've always wanted to fly on a small plane like this or even a midsize turboprop.
Mathew McLean It’s not even comparable. The only thing in common is that you take off and land in both that’s about it haha. Definitely recommend getting in a small plane sometime
Matt, as you know flying in an airliner it is generally comfortable, quiet and smooth. Light planes especially experimentals are noisy, uncomfortable and bumpy. I will say this though, after flying an Airbus, jumping into my RV-8 was much more fun.
hi guys.
Question: Any word on payload and baggage capacity?
Hook Eat Up the Lancair 320/360 airplanes will typically build right at 1050 to 1100 pounds with a max gross of 1875 ish minus the 43 gallons which is 288#
They will fly two average adults with 50 ish pounds in the back, it’s usually not the weight that’s a problem but the limited space to put things
Wow. ATC actually asking to provide flight following after canceling IFR. That's not something I hear in the Chicago ARTCC area. I feel like I'm asking them for their bank account number when asking for FF sometimes. lol
Why can't they make them a tad bigger so nobody says it's tight inside?
Be careful adding to much power to quickly in this one, will torque you over into a flat spin, sadly its killed a few.
Can you please write what iPad PFD apps pilot is talking about at 8:15?
Do google search on ipad PFD ,watch at 10:40 left side is ipad PFD
just not feeling that 7gph fuel burn for a small 2 person aircraft. I know that may be good in reality but id love to see engines focused in efficiency getting that number down to 4 or 5 tops. everyone cares about power but id love to see a 2 person aircraft with a small luggage storage getting 30-40mpg. I know the Long-EZ is close to that
How do you get so many opportunities to fly with all these pilots?
Networking and Facebook groups
The specifications indicate to me that there is no better option than this in the segment. I'm staggered by how fast it is and how far it will go.
Always envied that plane
365km/h is pretty decent but big brother Lancair IV-P is another level. 539km/h at 75% power @FL240. It is actually a crime that a plane like that isn't certified and cost optimized. It blows most things away. Beat multimillion turboprops for speed. Match a visionjet. Private jet freedom for a fraction.
Please tell me yal can hear better with your headsets than on this video.
What's it like flying they clouds?
How is turbulence in small planes, compared to the bigger jets?
TheIndianahurricane they are bumpier because you fly lower where all the bumps are and the wing loading is lower. Some are worse than others. But you really get used to it and don't notice after a while unless it is really bad.
@@sblack48 I don't like to fly on the big jets. Sounds like I wouldn't like the smaller planes at all. Thanks for the response. I like the flyingdoodles, and like see all the other types of planes out there. But I don't think I could go up in them
my favorite plane is the one that guy did a barrel roll in!! crazy he flew that like a pro and he was novice..props to him!!
Mark F. The horizon air plane?
@@PaulDavidlighting horizon?? i dont know...its the plane the guy stole and did barrel rolls in lol
Mark F. Yea that’s the horizon one the guy was a baggage handler he learned how to fly through home flight sims
@@PaulDavidlighting that guy is awesome!! he flew that like an absolute pro!
@beentga 757 what he did was awesome! He flew that plane like a pro!!!
I fly with that guy at Mesa lol
Good video, but please, don't play music in the background while someone is speaking.
Seems like none of the panels line up etc..
TruTrak is ~$5k for a certified airplane
Audio problem hurt my ears.
I like a lot about it, decent speed, decent fuel economy. But I just know it could be half weight and it could be tandem reclined in a sleeker body and go over 400km/h with only 140horses. Halving the fuel consumption.
Table cloth, huh?
im from wichita falls lol
Nice flight lousy audio in the cockpit
Why is the iPad upside down? I mean why?
Audio problems bad
$300 vs$3000 Say no more!
Efficient plane as long as the engine is putting out power. How does it glide? yeah. You can have it.
@@DylanClements98 rofl. no it doesn't. You must be one of those Biden voters.
@@DylanClements98 Of course you're right and I'm wrong. The Lancair has a better glide ratio than the Piper Archer with the same engine I believe. My point. I just lied. Something that everyone seems to do today. Like Hunter Biden's lap top. I just want to get in on the fun and fake news. Why can't I? Is it only for democrats.
As far as using commercial tablets for EFIS, I could send with photos, a neat setup using nexus7...I think they are better than iPad.just subscribed today..
Using vocal fry over the radio signifies a cool pilot, probably wears sunglasses indoors too ;)
oooh aaaah speed, your insurance says your a liability and asks why your huge insur.annual payments over what a certified airplane will cost with fixed gear is really worth it. Hell no. The cost savings is none.
NO SEATBUILTS .! 😱
Another nice plane with zero leg room - RV8 would be a better option for this guy
X is definitely the way to go. I'm cutting out the middle man and building my own. I've downloaded all of Tesla's notes and plans off of the internet and I already have my Lexus SC-400 converted to all electric, and Flux Capacitor installed. I'm ready for my new Searl Effect Generator install next which gives me the required power along with anti-gravity effect and air propulsion...
I have developed Sea-Keeper like counter-rotating gyroscopic controls for yaw, pitch, and roll. The dual counter-rotating Searl Effect Generator creates inherent stability while generating enough excess electrical energy for my cloaking device and Tesla death ray... it also provides free air conditioning.
After systems testing my first real road trip will be to Woodstock for a few days, and I should be back 5 minutes after I leave... wish me luck - I'm gonna need it. =)
Same airport Aviation 101 flys out of................
don't squeak when on the radio, ever.