I use D810 professionally to this day. I own 4 of them. Never switched to anything else because I don't have to. I bought a house thanks to D810. It's so reliable camera. Never failed me. Of course Z6II has better dynamic range but I don't need that because I know how to exposure photos properly.
I bought a house because of a d70s.. . Guess what happened to the D70s. They arent servicable anymore. 👀👀 Guess what Nikon future gonna be… In terms of dynamic range, you can get a comparable image to a D810 with any Nikon full frame or any brand from your prespective. Its been about other users besides the “perfect exposure” shooter. Now and days its about performance in iso/dynamic/video/color. We arent living in 2013 anymore. Its what is the best that can get the shot if all else fails.
😂 Some people get so offended when anybody talks about mirrorless cameras being comparted to DSLR's. As if it's disrespectful to just contrast their abilities. When someone says they don't need a better dynamic range because they know how to shoot properly, they sound ridiculous. You might as well say you will continue to draft documents with a feather and ink because you know how to compose written manuscript properly. Stop being so offended by camera technology. If you want to remain stuck in the past then just do that and be happy. No need to tell us how great you are with a 10 year-old DSLR. @@theCameraVille
@@jacksonjackson9474 But let's see bro, you only see the differences between the two when you force the shooting circumstances, as you could see at the beginning of the video, the differences are barely minimal when they are exposed correctly. You will tell me who takes a photo at -5 exposure stops and then raises all the exposure in post production, it just doesn't make sense. I understand the examples in the video but in practice, that doesn't happen. Sure, if you told me the Z6's follow focus is better than the D810, but at forced exposures it just doesn't make sense.
I had the D810 and LOVED it, my business went more people based so getting mirrorless was needed. I was so bummed the Z6ii just wasn’t as razor sharp/fast as the Canon R6. KILLED me to have to switch (mentally and suck financially). 16mths later, I LOVE my R6 for people work but I REALLLY nice the D810 resolution/sharpness when any sort of cropping is needed. I look at my old files still and just shake my head at the difference. For PEOPLE 20-28mp is 100% fine as you don’t want TOO accurate as shows the flaws but landscape/architecture I miss the extra detail of the D810. I am on the fence of getting another one just for fun camera with 1-2 lenses like 20mm G and a 24-70 G2.
Am I correct in thinking the 36MP would help for when I use DX mode for some of my lenses as it has to crop but it will have a higher resolution than a 24MP camera on DX mode like a D600 for example
In my opinion the D810 is way better in almost all cases. The different colour casts of images shown in both cameras, including details available in overcast sky, can very easily be adjusted in camera menu settings or in post editing to exactly match each other.
@@theCameraVille the D800/D810/D850 have incredible dynamic range. The flip screen on the Z6ii & Z7ii is crap in my opinion and wish Nikon had provided a fully articulating screen like on the Panasonic GH5. For low angle shots it is easy to simply use a DR-5 viewfinder on the D810.
@@Globetrotter-1 We can agree on that flip screen. If Nikon had it, I would sell off my Canon / Lumix. I been using Zfc and it aint bad. Wish Nikon did that to all their system🤝🤝
@@laynetravis I'm pretty sure those who are aware ,Nikon are discontinuing dslr. This means when your camera turns into a brick, it will not be fine. good luck, and this is coming from a D810 owner btw lol.
I see more internal camera corrections in z6 and to it looks like the image quality of D810 is richer, I think getting down to business and creating images with technique d810 excels, I like the low light of the z6ll but something has to give foe that performance.
So basically a 7 year old camera is still able to keep up with the newer ones. You're only upgrading for the weight and size difference and minor image upgrades that no one will even notice.
Not really. No flip screen so bad for your back. Poor dynamic range, and also soon, unrepairable due to part list. So basically its folding pretty soon. Best to sell it before you lose money on it. Cheers!
@@theCameraVille it's beyond the point of losing money on it when it's so old already. I guess it's best to use it until it dies and get a new camera when that happens. It's been fine for the last 5 years doing professional work.
@@theCameraVille Poor DR? The D810 has 14,8 which is the top score at the moment. Actually, according to DxO reviews, the Z9 has worse DR than the D810.
Now it's been reduced to this as the only argument? A no brainer to D810 owners then. I can do a lot of repair to my D810 for the price of a Z. Another stupid argument... of course there is nothing wrong with *liking* a camera 😊 To each their own ❤
Surprisingly the colours of D810 look better than those of Z6ii. And I don’t believe it’s about brightness but rather richness. Truly, dynamic range wise Z6ii is better l, without loss of colour and artefacts. Says a lot though about D810 still being good in 2022.
D810 wins. In every way. Z6ii can't even freaking focus. I sold my z62 and bought a used d810 for$600. No way you are not being paid to push the new Nikon. The z62 is blurry compared to the d810 in real life.
D810 is discontinue. Another year it wont be supported by Nikon like my D800 . In another words while you are payin the high cost for repair currently, soon it will be a museum piece on your shelf. So in real life your buying time holding on to dear life❤️
@@theCameraVille I don't even understand why I would care. My d700 is still working like the day a got it. If the d810 goes down I will just get another one. I have a r5 still so I do like new cameras on occasion. But the d810 is amazing in real life. And no one can tell the difference in the photos in real life. What I find is people spend so much time on gear but their work just isn't great. The d810 is amazing still.
@@jay-by1se kind of hard to understand your rebuttal. You claim you enjoy your D810, why bother to even watch a side by side? Why even click on a video such as this? Because your not happy with your gear. Those who are happy with their gear, arent watching these kind of video comparison. so nice try . Typical .
@@theCameraVille I watch hundreds of videos. Always curious to learn more and see what is new. Like I said I do shoot the r5 as well because after allot of research I tried it out and really enjoyed it. I get frustrated that people are obsessed with new gear because new photographers think they need to spend huge money to be a photographer. I was out shooting with the z62 and a student had the d700, we both ended up wanting to shoot the d700. It just felt better, we were shooting a barrel race and the z62 was having a hard time getting the action. The old 700 was just nailing it. It really made me think. So I went out and found a d810 to try, ended up selling my z6ii. I'm not saying everyone feels the same. But I am saying no one on Earth can tell from looking at the photos produced what camera it is. Cameras don't matter that much. They are all pretty great these days. I'm sorry that got you so upset.
@@jay-by1se Should had click next. Once you start watching a side by side, you know what you are in for. Doesnt matter if you are curious or not. Why would anyone want to watch a side by side of a 9 year old dslr vs a mirrorless and then goes emo when it dont go their way. Then later they throw this text book art prespective lol. “All about the art” Why dont you go critique peoples art videos. There we go. Leave the side by side for others who needs the info unless you are deeply unhappy with D810. This aint no art video. This is a side by side. Like I said, those who are happy, arent watching side by side. They are also not trying to defend a 9 year camera on a Friday night.
I see most advantage of mirrorless system over dslr are the video capabilities. If you making videos, that makes perfect sence to start with a mirorless. When it comes to still photography, dslr will offer more than your photographer's skills can match. I have both mirorless and dslr and for photography I prefer dslr, it just feels better and I personally like optical viewfinder very much.
Just bought a D810 with 20K shutter for 1000 bucks. Perfect back up for my D850 and D4. The Z cameras are a bit to small for my taste. And I have some heavy and big lenses in my bag so that needs some counterweight.
Yes, keep an eye on the Nikon service as they removed D800, D4, etc when they hit a certain age. There might be a point you may want a repair and Nikon cant service it.
Looks the same. All those “details in shadows” only a matter of 2 seconds in Lightroom. The real difference might be seen only with large size printing. Nice try but skies and shadows are almost the same.
@@theCameraVille I disagree. Some Z lenses are a smidgen better than F lenses and some F lenses are better than Z lenses. The massive advantages of the F lineup of lenses over the Z is of course the incredible number of superb optics to choose from...all of which can be used with Z, DSLR and SLR bodies.
Comparing the two is an invalid comparison to do advances in sensor technology. I'm still working with an ancient D700, D600 and D800 and no one, absolutely no one has ever told me I need to use a mirrorless camera for better landscapes, portrait or events photographs. I'm retired now but theses ancient cameras helped pay the bills for a long time. Although not a fair comparison it would be better to compare the Z6II to the D610 because of the similar pixel count!
Hi NikonMark, I also owned all 3 cameras that you mentioned. They are no longer serviced by Nikon anymore. Repair cost for those units are higher than the days you bought them by 3rd party outlets. Lets make sure we get that out the way first. Also D600 has the oil issues which is why D610 came out. D700 /D800 dont get me started. If you had slide your way in life with those units, good for you. Thats the way you do it. Also, most of the image quality difference will only be shown through glass so make sure you look at the glass comparison rather than the sensor comparison. That will be a huge difference. Let me assist you to something better than a D610. Here you go, th-cam.com/video/5cGnhQN9Vhs/w-d-xo.html Cheers. I hope this is valid
@@theCameraVille Check the plastic look of the Z6II.Then try to adjust your aesthetic to the art of photography. With every leap in technology the colours and hue suffers.
There was a separate version of the D810 for astrophotography, it was the D810a. It’s still very expensive to this day. You can get a decent D810 for about $600 now whereas a D810a will still run about $2000-$2500.
That is too much and isnt worth it. Pentax K1 is under $1,000 and has ASTROTRACER. D810a doesnt have any of that. You will need to buy additional expensive gear to follow the stars.
Would like to see a test with the shots, shot to the right without clipping the highlights. Add some adjustments and see how they handle it? Pretty sure both these cameras are ISO invariant. I have a D700 and a D800 and they both have been great cameras. Jumped on the new Z8 and got to say, it is the best camera I have ever had. Mostly due to the advantages in getting the shot though. Most people don't care what camera was used, but only if it looks good,
For a 10 years old, nikon d810 seems to be only aged a little bit. Still a very good and capable camera, even compared to "modern" camera like Z6 II. Clearly shows that nikon really put the care and thought when designing D810 back in the days.
I have the Nikon Z6 and am blown away with how capable this is as a workhorse but seeing this makes me realize how still capable the D810 is in 2023. The Z glass does contribute to giving a huge gap in Z bodies over DSLRs. I've been looking for a second body, particularly DSLR since I miss using an OVF and to use more for casual stuff but also if I need a second workhorse. I was looking at the d850 but the price was off-putting and the d810 isn't that far behind in regards to just photography plus can be found for around $700-800 for a like new or excellent condition one.
Yes D810 can get you there. Just remember that there is no more serviceable parts for the D810. If something happens, there is no promise its fixable. You might need to go to third party to fix at expensive amount. D850, serviceable.
Z glass on the Z6ii can make the "gap" bigger i think.... z 50mm f1.8s vs the F-mount 50mm , z Glass does not have any color tinge, white is pure white
A great comparison although it compares only one sample of each camera and samples vary - especially over time. Cons for the z series are that there is no focus motor so AF and AFD lenses do not autofocus. You need an adaptor to use F mount lenses and that you cannot use Z mount lenses on F mount cameras. Basically it is part of a separate system- so why stick with Nikon?
You can get an adapter for AFD lens that can give you autofocus. Its in one of my video. I believe its a megadap adapter. its the way the market is moving towards these days.
Love your channel, very helpful info! One question that nobody seems to answer: How many Mega Pixels is too much/many for most users? Do people really benefit from the higher MPs of the new Nikon ZII cameras (for instance)? It would seem that unless one plans to enlarge their photos to poster size prints, the higher MPs isn't really necessary. Does the details of higher MP cameras really show up in normal photos put on the web, or enlarged to say 11'x14" size? Thanks in advance for any thoughts / input...Tom
That sounds like an excellent question. I should make a video on that. These day we have AI programs that can help us scale up. I will see what I can find for you Thomas.
Nice, really shows the color accuracy in newer sensors although D810 still has attractive ones at base ISO. Also i've been wanting to ask you about the K1: Is there ANY possible way to adapt F-mount glass on it without changing the lenses' mounts themselves? I don't mind lack of AF but the little glass some adapters have to reach infinity really destroy the image quality, also Pentax Forums will spank me if i ask this lol
I have an adapter for F mount to K mount. Someone asked about this before I remember. I dont think they make it anymore. That is a bummer because it works nice. Yea those forums and group can be dangerous. You can be sure I kick them out lol.
I always stay a generation or two behind technology and I'm commenting 2 years post production on this video. Thank you btw! I'm an old guy so latest technology doesn't matter that much. I like to make art with my D810 when I'm not making art with my F5 and Mamiya RZ67 pro ii film cameras. IMO, the camera body is just a tool to create a vision and if it works, great.
it's all marketing, buy top lenses for Nikon D810 and that's it, I was not sold to marketing, the picture with the D810 and Z7² is not possible to distinguish.
Hey Cameraville, in one of your videos that is comparing the D850 vs Z6ii , you showed noticeable magenta cast when lifting shadows in z6 ii while d850 was perfect. In this video however there is no magenta cast with z6ii. Why is there difference in two videos, is it because of two different z6 ii bodies or because of firmware or something else ? thanks
Because your looking at short term ownership. Long term ownership repair will cost more on D810 due to Nikon not supporting the unit anymore. If you dont shoot much and its once and a while as a hobby, go for it. For professionals, even NPS will reject membership if any of the gear isnt supported anymore. So either you are new to photography or you are a professional.
It's odd that they d810's color starts to fall apart when raising the ISO. It's supposed to be ISO invariant. Maybe the processor isn't that good in the d810 to handle such low exposures. The z6 ii has two processors. One for the auto focus and one for the normal things the camera does such as writing the files onto the card. I had a group that was great in low light but the z6 ii is even better.
What about having some 5% better sky color but missing all the details from the D810? I wonder about your comments - "did he use the right video?" I thought...
Everything you talked about in this video is if you are shooting JPEG. IDK a person, who is using FF camera and relies on those things. Everything could be fixed in LR. Also, I've tested D810 up to ISO 12 500 and it's doing a fantastic job! Why did not you tested the level of detail? It will blow away Z6. Also, why did not you tested Z6 with most recent DSLR D850? Because it has no chance! Z7 and Z7 II are using D850 sensor and they are superior than D810/D810, but Z6II it is not.
You are becoming one of my favorite reviewers in the game! Straight to the point, no fluff. All that we (as photographers watching TH-cam channels) are concerned with is image quality, sharpness, usability, and focus ability. Great photos to review as well. Liked and subbed!
I paid £500.00 for mine ( used ofcourse ). It takes my newer Nikkor lenses, and my older AI/AIs. It has better image quality than my D800. Great camera.
Had my d810 for a while . Its more so the lack of support as well. Once it breaks you got to pay an arm and a leg for repair. Also if you dont shoot a lot, and thats your style, you arent hard on your gear, then you should be fine with any models. I needed support if anything fail right away.
I have both, the image quality and sharpness of both is almost same but I prefer the nikon for the mirroless system. The weight of the nikon is way more lighter, thus easier to use. At 35mm the difference between 1.8 amd 1.4 is not much, also note that mirroless lenses are always brighter than its dslr siblings.
In all those pictures the Nikon D810 just looks better. The colour depth, contrast, detail, etc. the sky seems equally blown out. Don't know what you're taking about.
Did you know that discontinue camera are no longer NPS approved due to the no service issue. So if your a working Professional, and you have these units, your membership with Nikon would be canceled. Did you also know that once I put on a Zmount lens, everything in this test will be change in Image quality. Only if you knew.
@@ForeverYoung007 well yes the z6II is alot newer tech wise and better, but to me as a non pro the best i can get spending as little as possible is the d810, if money wasnt a problem i would get a z9 right away 😁😁
@@ForeverYoung007 true for sure, but i also already had some f mount lenses, so i ended up buying the d810, but yes the price difference is basically unexistent
When you wet your pants, you only stay warm for the moment before the chill. Fixing a D810 will cost more than what you paid for. Something people dont talk about sadly. I owned mine for 6 years. Also the dynamic range isnt as good as a Pentax which is bad. th-cam.com/video/qZAGlQwjgMI/w-d-xo.html
Sweet~! Firmware 2.0~! I can honestly say, Nikon is really pushing the envelope this time around. So many improvement this past year. ( Its almost 1 year ~! . time flies) cheers Joe!
But let's see, let's see, the Z6 ii was released in 2020 and the Nikon D810 in 2014, 6 years apart. Are you telling me that 6 years apart that's the most progress I can get with the Z6II? It is definitely a scam. This means that the D810 has been well ahead of its time. In another sense, the D810 is a sublime camera, and of course, you're seeing those differences because you're doing forced tests, but in an everyday photo you'll hardly see any difference. Now, if you talk about the fact that there is no longer support or repair, well, everything will depend on where you live and that will have a correlation with the repair technician in terms of their prices. A D810 on Ebay goes for $700, you would be the most bad luck man in the world if it were damaged after buying it a month. I am about to buy the D810, as long as it lasts 2 or 3 years... That investment would already be more than profitable. Where is the fear? Great video 👌
You can use the same excuse and buy a D800 or any used full frame in that matter. The scam isnt the tech, its your lack of need during challenging light. D810 is discontinued and to repair might be soon to be over like my D800 did. Also if your spending money on a system that might last for 2-3 years, that is a mindset of a hobbyist . Then in that case, enjoy the ride. Cheers
@@theCameraVilledude my 30 years old f5 still works like a charm. There are way older cameras still working the 800 camera is pro grade built to last way more then the average guy could do to it
@@phillippugh2161 That is based on users handling. You cant put a blanket statement on those who arent careful with their gear. That is irresponsible of you. Guys like you probably dont shoot. Just collect dust and pretends everything work as day one.
le solite marchette con i prodotti nuovi... ma non vede che la D810 è più nitida, colori più saturi, poi bisogna vedere come sono state sviluppate le immagini dai NEF perchè IO NON HO MAI VISTO TUTTO QUEL MAGENTA SULLE IMMAGINI. Il cielo, a 6'31" che rende la D810 se li può dimenticare la Z6... un piattume grigio. Idem a 6'30" con la testa scultorea; si vede che sono stati fatti 2 bianchi differenti ma la profondità nelle ombre che ha la D810 è imbattibile (ovvero solo la D850 o la Z9 la superano).
The Z6 Is plenty for anyone. If you need that extra speed, the II is pretty good but if I would had start over again, I would look at Z6. The Z6II didnt fix the lag sadly.
They are almost equal. The Z6 gets a bit of colorbending when you are pushing shadows too hard. The Z6 II doesn’t have that (or at least to a much lesser degree)
Hands down the Nikon Z system is the best. No other camera system on the market can touch it. I have owned my Z6II for two months and I am just amazed at the images. If you can find one get it!
@@theCameraVille the same will eventually happen to the z6ll no repair, this is my take on it if you like dslr more then get them now while they are cheap and use them till they don’t work and upgrade as needed, I own many Nikon dslr and shoot mostly with the DF love that camera but I also own z7ll and z8
I use D810 professionally to this day. I own 4 of them. Never switched to anything else because I don't have to. I bought a house thanks to D810. It's so reliable camera. Never failed me. Of course Z6II has better dynamic range but I don't need that because I know how to exposure photos properly.
I bought a house because of a d70s.. . Guess what happened to the D70s. They arent servicable anymore. 👀👀 Guess what Nikon future gonna be…
In terms of dynamic range, you can get a comparable image to a D810 with any Nikon full frame or any brand from your prespective.
Its been about other users besides the “perfect exposure” shooter. Now and days its about performance in iso/dynamic/video/color. We arent living in 2013 anymore. Its what is the best that can get the shot if all else fails.
😂 Some people get so offended when anybody talks about mirrorless cameras being comparted to DSLR's. As if it's disrespectful to just contrast their abilities. When someone says they don't need a better dynamic range because they know how to shoot properly, they sound ridiculous. You might as well say you will continue to draft documents with a feather and ink because you know how to compose written manuscript properly. Stop being so offended by camera technology. If you want to remain stuck in the past then just do that and be happy. No need to tell us how great you are with a 10 year-old DSLR. @@theCameraVille
@@jacksonjackson9474 But let's see bro, you only see the differences between the two when you force the shooting circumstances, as you could see at the beginning of the video, the differences are barely minimal when they are exposed correctly. You will tell me who takes a photo at -5 exposure stops and then raises all the exposure in post production, it just doesn't make sense. I understand the examples in the video but in practice, that doesn't happen. Sure, if you told me the Z6's follow focus is better than the D810, but at forced exposures it just doesn't make sense.
I use the D810 till this day! it gives Beautiful crisp images.
It's a brilliant camera. @@DJSIC82
D810 All the way
D810! And I am not willing to overpay for nothing!
Depends on what you are going for.
I had the D810 and LOVED it, my business went more people based so getting mirrorless was needed. I was so bummed the Z6ii just wasn’t as razor sharp/fast as the Canon R6. KILLED me to have to switch (mentally and suck financially). 16mths later, I LOVE my R6 for people work but I REALLLY nice the D810 resolution/sharpness when any sort of cropping is needed. I look at my old files still and just shake my head at the difference. For PEOPLE 20-28mp is 100% fine as you don’t want TOO accurate as shows the flaws but landscape/architecture I miss the extra detail of the D810. I am on the fence of getting another one just for fun camera with 1-2 lenses like 20mm G and a 24-70 G2.
Am I correct in thinking the 36MP would help for when I use DX mode for some of my lenses as it has to crop but it will have a higher resolution than a 24MP camera on DX mode like a D600 for example
In my opinion the D810 is way better in almost all cases. The different colour casts of images shown in both cameras, including details available in overcast sky, can very easily be adjusted in camera menu settings or in post editing to exactly match each other.
So basically no flip screen to lack of dynamic range for slight menu adjustments? Awesome
@@theCameraVille the D800/D810/D850 have incredible dynamic range. The flip screen on the Z6ii & Z7ii is crap in my opinion and wish Nikon had provided a fully articulating screen like on the Panasonic GH5. For low angle shots it is easy to simply use a DR-5 viewfinder on the D810.
@@Globetrotter-1 We can agree on that flip screen. If Nikon had it, I would sell off my Canon / Lumix. I been using Zfc and it aint bad. Wish Nikon did that to all their system🤝🤝
I just bought a 810..i don't do video so its fine...and my photos always pass through LR
@@laynetravis I'm pretty sure those who are aware ,Nikon are discontinuing dslr. This means when your camera turns into a brick, it will not be fine. good luck, and this is coming from a D810 owner btw lol.
I see more internal camera corrections in z6 and to it looks like the image quality of D810 is richer, I think getting down to business and creating images with technique d810 excels, I like the low light of the z6ll but something has to give foe that performance.
All correction has been turned off for the test. Also, my D800 is no longer serviceable by Nikon. D810 is probably next. Good luck.
So basically a 7 year old camera is still able to keep up with the newer ones.
You're only upgrading for the weight and size difference and minor image upgrades that no one will even notice.
Not really. No flip screen so bad for your back. Poor dynamic range, and also soon, unrepairable due to part list. So basically its folding pretty soon. Best to sell it before you lose money on it. Cheers!
@@theCameraVille it's beyond the point of losing money on it when it's so old already. I guess it's best to use it until it dies and get a new camera when that happens. It's been fine for the last 5 years doing professional work.
@@theCameraVille Poor DR? The D810 has 14,8 which is the top score at the moment. Actually, according to DxO reviews, the Z9 has worse DR than the D810.
@@timemasterhms nikonrumors.com/tag/to-be-discontinued/ Basically your going to end up with no support. Good luck.
Now it's been reduced to this as the only argument? A no brainer to D810 owners then. I can do a lot of repair to my D810 for the price of a Z. Another stupid argument... of course there is nothing wrong with *liking* a camera 😊 To each their own ❤
Man I wish you would have made the dynamic range test at 64iso on the D810. Thanks for the video.
Thanks my guy~! I can do a quick test and let you know the results here? Let me know.
I've had a Z6 for over a year. I should have bought a Z7. Will be getting a minty-used D810 for landscapes and outdoor work...cropping. Perfect.
congrads ~!
The D810 seems sharper
Surprisingly the colours of D810 look better than those of Z6ii. And I don’t believe it’s about brightness but rather richness. Truly, dynamic range wise Z6ii is better l, without loss of colour and artefacts. Says a lot though about D810 still being good in 2022.
Your opinion matters
D810 wins. In every way. Z6ii can't even freaking focus. I sold my z62 and bought a used d810 for$600. No way you are not being paid to push the new Nikon. The z62 is blurry compared to the d810 in real life.
D810 is discontinue. Another year it wont be supported by Nikon like my D800 . In another words while you are payin the high cost for repair currently, soon it will be a museum piece on your shelf. So in real life your buying time holding on to dear life❤️
@@theCameraVille I don't even understand why I would care. My d700 is still working like the day a got it. If the d810 goes down I will just get another one. I have a r5 still so I do like new cameras on occasion. But the d810 is amazing in real life. And no one can tell the difference in the photos in real life. What I find is people spend so much time on gear but their work just isn't great. The d810 is amazing still.
@@jay-by1se kind of hard to understand your rebuttal. You claim you enjoy your D810, why bother to even watch a side by side? Why even click on a video such as this? Because your not happy with your gear. Those who are happy with their gear, arent watching these kind of video comparison. so nice try . Typical .
@@theCameraVille I watch hundreds of videos. Always curious to learn more and see what is new. Like I said I do shoot the r5 as well because after allot of research I tried it out and really enjoyed it.
I get frustrated that people are obsessed with new gear because new photographers think they need to spend huge money to be a photographer. I was out shooting with the z62 and a student had the d700, we both ended up wanting to shoot the d700. It just felt better, we were shooting a barrel race and the z62 was having a hard time getting the action. The old 700 was just nailing it. It really made me think. So I went out and found a d810 to try, ended up selling my z6ii. I'm not saying everyone feels the same. But I am saying no one on Earth can tell from looking at the photos produced what camera it is. Cameras don't matter that much. They are all pretty great these days. I'm sorry that got you so upset.
@@jay-by1se Should had click next. Once you start watching a side by side, you know what you are in for. Doesnt matter if you are curious or not. Why would anyone want to watch a side by side of a 9 year old dslr vs a mirrorless and then goes emo when it dont go their way. Then later they throw this text book art prespective lol. “All about the art” Why dont you go critique peoples art videos. There we go. Leave the side by side for others who needs the info unless you are deeply unhappy with D810.
This aint no art video. This is a side by side.
Like I said, those who are happy, arent watching side by side. They are also not trying to defend a 9 year camera on a Friday night.
I love the d810 detail
What I didnt mention in the video is was, that is my D810 for the last 5 years
I see most advantage of mirrorless system over dslr are the video capabilities. If you making videos, that makes perfect sence to start with a mirorless. When it comes to still photography, dslr will offer more than your photographer's skills can match.
I have both mirorless and dslr and for photography I prefer dslr, it just feels better and I personally like optical viewfinder very much.
Yea, I have both currently. I havent went fully mirrorless . I can imagine one day maybe .
I switxh from dslr and I'm not comming back.. z6 II is amazing and eat on breakfast my D700 and D600
@@DjRooB Yup, I know of several is pure mirrorless from the Nikon world.
I can see it happening 2 years for me. Im half way in.
Just bought a D810 with 20K shutter for 1000 bucks. Perfect back up for my D850 and D4. The Z cameras are a bit to small for my taste. And I have some heavy and big lenses in my bag so that needs some counterweight.
Differebt strokes for different folks
I have both a z6 and d810. Buyed the d810 used with only 4600 clicks. Iove the d810 at the moment much more. Only miss the vibration reduction.
Yes, keep an eye on the Nikon service as they removed D800, D4, etc when they hit a certain age. There might be a point you may want a repair and Nikon cant service it.
Looks the same. All those “details in shadows” only a matter of 2 seconds in Lightroom. The real difference might be seen only with large size printing.
Nice try but skies and shadows are almost the same.
When you add the Z glass as factor, the Z camera will be up by a mile. That is something that needs to be consider.
@@theCameraVille I disagree. Some Z lenses are a smidgen better than F lenses and some F lenses are better than Z lenses. The massive advantages of the F lineup of lenses over the Z is of course the incredible number of superb optics to choose from...all of which can be used with Z, DSLR and SLR bodies.
@@Globetrotter-1 Please don't destroy the "CameraVille"s" dream!
He needs us to admit the Z6 is better ;-)
Comparing the two is an invalid comparison to do advances in sensor technology. I'm still working with an ancient D700, D600 and D800 and no one, absolutely no one has ever told me I need to use a mirrorless camera for better landscapes, portrait or events photographs. I'm retired now but theses ancient cameras helped pay the bills for a long time. Although not a fair comparison it would be better to compare the Z6II to the D610 because of the similar pixel count!
Hi NikonMark, I also owned all 3 cameras that you mentioned. They are no longer serviced by Nikon anymore. Repair cost for those units are higher than the days you bought them by 3rd party outlets. Lets make sure we get that out the way first. Also D600 has the oil issues which is why D610 came out. D700 /D800 dont get me started.
If you had slide your way in life with those units, good for you. Thats the way you do it. Also, most of the image quality difference will only be shown through glass so make sure you look at the glass comparison rather than the sensor comparison. That will be a huge difference. Let me assist you to something better than a D610.
Here you go, th-cam.com/video/5cGnhQN9Vhs/w-d-xo.html
Cheers. I hope this is valid
Z6 had the 50mm/1.8G which is better glass. I would like to see the 810 with same glass comparison to make my judgement. Good content though. Ty.
Thats nice you enjoy the 50mm 1.8G. Should try out the 50mm 1.8S. super sharp~!
I kinda expected the results on the dynamic range side of things. The Z6ii has a BSI sensor and the D810 has a normal FSI sensor.
Yup. Some folks don't seem to realize the generation gap.
@@theCameraVille Check the plastic look of the Z6II.Then try to adjust your aesthetic to the art of photography. With every leap in technology the colours and hue suffers.
There was a separate version of the D810 for astrophotography, it was the D810a. It’s still very expensive to this day. You can get a decent D810 for about $600 now whereas a D810a will still run about $2000-$2500.
That is too much and isnt worth it. Pentax K1 is under $1,000 and has ASTROTRACER. D810a doesnt have any of that. You will need to buy additional expensive gear to follow the stars.
Would like to see a test with the shots, shot to the right without clipping the highlights. Add some adjustments and see how they handle it? Pretty sure both these cameras are ISO invariant.
I have a D700 and a D800 and they both have been great cameras. Jumped on the new Z8 and got to say, it is the best camera I have ever had.
Mostly due to the advantages in getting the shot though. Most people don't care what camera was used, but only if it looks good,
I love my Z8, will make videos on that soon~! Appreciated boss~!
For a 10 years old, nikon d810 seems to be only aged a little bit. Still a very good and capable camera, even compared to "modern" camera like Z6 II. Clearly shows that nikon really put the care and thought when designing D810 back in the days.
Yes, when there is good lighting it will perform excellent. That is my child and was my baby.
I have the Nikon Z6 and am blown away with how capable this is as a workhorse but seeing this makes me realize how still capable the D810 is in 2023. The Z glass does contribute to giving a huge gap in Z bodies over DSLRs.
I've been looking for a second body, particularly DSLR since I miss using an OVF and to use more for casual stuff but also if I need a second workhorse. I was looking at the d850 but the price was off-putting and the d810 isn't that far behind in regards to just photography plus can be found for around $700-800 for a like new or excellent condition one.
Yes D810 can get you there. Just remember that there is no more serviceable parts for the D810. If something happens, there is no promise its fixable. You might need to go to third party to fix at expensive amount. D850, serviceable.
Z glass on the Z6ii can make the "gap" bigger i think.... z 50mm f1.8s vs the F-mount 50mm , z Glass does not have any color tinge, white is pure white
Yup~! Z is just super clean and sharp.
A great comparison although it compares only one sample of each camera and samples vary - especially over time. Cons for the z series are that there is no focus motor so AF and AFD lenses do not autofocus. You need an adaptor to use F mount lenses and that you cannot use Z mount lenses on F mount cameras. Basically it is part of a separate system- so why stick with Nikon?
You can get an adapter for AFD lens that can give you autofocus. Its in one of my video. I believe its a megadap adapter. its the way the market is moving towards these days.
After Pentax K-1 if there is another camera I am genuinely interested in, that is Nikon Z6II.
You cant go wrong with the Z6II. Its my go to these days.
Love your channel, very helpful info! One question that nobody seems to answer: How many Mega Pixels is too much/many for most users? Do people really benefit from the higher MPs of the new Nikon ZII cameras (for instance)? It would seem that unless one plans to enlarge their photos to poster size prints, the higher MPs isn't really necessary. Does the details of higher MP cameras really show up in normal photos put on the web, or enlarged to say 11'x14" size? Thanks in advance for any thoughts / input...Tom
That sounds like an excellent question. I should make a video on that. These day we have AI programs that can help us scale up. I will see what I can find for you Thomas.
Never too many megapixels! I have a Z6 had a D810 I miss the megapixels especially when cropping.
Nice, really shows the color accuracy in newer sensors although D810 still has attractive ones at base ISO.
Also i've been wanting to ask you about the K1: Is there ANY possible way to adapt F-mount glass on it without changing the lenses' mounts themselves?
I don't mind lack of AF but the little glass some adapters have to reach infinity really destroy the image quality, also Pentax Forums will spank me if i ask this lol
I have an adapter for F mount to K mount. Someone asked about this before I remember. I dont think they make it anymore. That is a bummer because it works nice.
Yea those forums and group can be dangerous. You can be sure I kick them out lol.
I always stay a generation or two behind technology and I'm commenting 2 years post production on this video. Thank you btw!
I'm an old guy so latest technology doesn't matter that much. I like to make art with my D810 when I'm not making art with my F5 and Mamiya RZ67 pro ii film cameras.
IMO, the camera body is just a tool to create a vision and if it works, great.
You do you my man. Enjoy the processes ~! Happy new years~!
@@theCameraVille And Happy New Year to you as well!
it's all marketing, buy top lenses for Nikon D810 and that's it, I was not sold to marketing, the picture with the D810 and Z7² is not possible to distinguish.
Do you mean buying a lens that's being discontinued on a quarterly base with no future-proofing? There is no Z7II in here. Nice try lol.
nikonrumors.com/tag/to-be-discontinued/
Hey Cameraville,
in one of your videos that is comparing the D850 vs Z6ii , you showed noticeable magenta cast when lifting shadows in z6 ii while d850 was perfect. In this video however there is no magenta cast with z6ii. Why is there difference in two videos, is it because of two different z6 ii bodies or because of firmware or something else ? thanks
Whenever a test seems even, I push it even harder.
My Macbook screen must be knackered d810 looks a lot better ???
If it fits your style then yes~!
I can easily get 2 D810's for the price of one Z6ii with money to spare. I get it, the newer tool is a bit better, but worth it? I'm not convinced.
Because your looking at short term ownership. Long term ownership repair will cost more on D810 due to Nikon not supporting the unit anymore. If you dont shoot much and its once and a while as a hobby, go for it. For professionals, even NPS will reject membership if any of the gear isnt supported anymore.
So either you are new to photography or you are a professional.
@@theCameraVilleDude, chill out. I take photos of animals and landscapes on my walks.
@@JjackVideo So hobbyist basically. Please add that next time
It's odd that they d810's color starts to fall apart when raising the ISO. It's supposed to be ISO invariant. Maybe the processor isn't that good in the d810 to handle such low exposures. The z6 ii has two processors. One for the auto focus and one for the normal things the camera does such as writing the files onto the card. I had a group that was great in low light but the z6 ii is even better.
D810 is Cmos, Expeed 4. Z6II is BSI, Expeed 6. That is 2 generation gap.
@@theCameraVille doesn't the d750 have the same processor? It doesn't fall apart when raising the exposure in Lightroom like that.
@@carlmcneill1139 th-cam.com/video/5cGnhQN9Vhs/w-d-xo.html
Yup it does. 6 years of development.
What about having some 5% better sky color but missing all the details from the D810? I wonder about your comments - "did he use the right video?" I thought...
D810 will soon be no longer supported by Nikon. Hold on tight!
Everything you talked about in this video is if you are shooting JPEG. IDK a person, who is using FF camera and relies on those things. Everything could be fixed in LR. Also, I've tested D810 up to ISO 12 500 and it's doing a fantastic job! Why did not you tested the level of detail? It will blow away Z6. Also, why did not you tested Z6 with most recent DSLR D850? Because it has no chance! Z7 and Z7 II are using D850 sensor and they are superior than D810/D810, but Z6II it is not.
You make no sense . Go back to Canon.
You are becoming one of my favorite reviewers in the game! Straight to the point, no fluff. All that we (as photographers watching TH-cam channels) are concerned with is image quality, sharpness, usability, and focus ability. Great photos to review as well. Liked and subbed!
Appreciated TJ !~ More to come. Happy New Years BOSS~!
Hi the camera ville pls which photo software editing are you using?
thanks
Lightroom
Stop drinking coffee!!! Or smoking before your show...
Sorry, I have more energy than other shows :D Been like this for 5 years baby~!
I think d810 is better
In…… ?
I paid £500.00 for mine ( used ofcourse ). It takes my newer Nikkor lenses, and my older AI/AIs. It has better image quality than my D800. Great camera.
Wait till you need a repair on the dslr. Cost a ton due to supply and demand.
It cant be any worse than my two Contax G2s. I had an estimate for repair from a Dutch outfit of £450.00 each. @@theCameraVille
Thanks
No problem ~!
d810 color more natural， green close to natural green rather than z6
ii a bit too saturated😂
D810 expiring Nikon support up ahead like D800 series. What do you do when you cant get it serviced😂😂
D810 its my main camera great quality and if you know how to handle Photoshop you don’t need no other one.
Had my d810 for a while . Its more so the lack of support as well. Once it breaks you got to pay an arm and a leg for repair. Also if you dont shoot a lot, and thats your style, you arent hard on your gear, then you should be fine with any models. I needed support if anything fail right away.
Camera don't make photographers!
D810 is the beast ❤
Depends on the photography. Poor dynamic range isnt good for astrophotography.
I just bought an 810 brand new for $1300!
show me invoice now
Can you compare side by side Lens Nikkor Z 35mm F1.8 s and Sigma Art 35mm f1.4. Please.
I confused.
That sounds like a possible future episode.~!
I have both, the image quality and sharpness of both is almost same but I prefer the nikon for the mirroless system. The weight of the nikon is way more lighter, thus easier to use. At 35mm the difference between 1.8 amd 1.4 is not much, also note that mirroless lenses are always brighter than its dslr siblings.
@@theCameraVille do it :D
@@OkwyUgonweze okey thanks a lot for information.
@@theCameraVille i am waiting 😁
In all those pictures the Nikon D810 just looks better. The colour depth, contrast, detail, etc. the sky seems equally blown out. Don't know what you're taking about.
Did you know that discontinue camera are no longer NPS approved due to the no service issue. So if your a working Professional, and you have these units, your membership with Nikon would be canceled. Did you also know that once I put on a Zmount lens, everything in this test will be change in Image quality. Only if you knew.
@@theCameraVille Thanks!!
ehm, quite frankly i dont see anything that would push me towards the mirrorless camera in terms of image quality, unless youre a pro pro
or if you are shooting astrophotography / low light scenes.
@@ForeverYoung007 well yes the z6II is alot newer tech wise and better, but to me as a non pro the best i can get spending as little as possible is the d810, if money wasnt a problem i would get a z9 right away 😁😁
@@ForeverYoung007 true for sure, but i also already had some f mount lenses, so i ended up buying the d810, but yes the price difference is basically unexistent
Z6 vs Z6ii, are the colors the same?
Hey Michael, this is D810 vs Z6II.
D810 with the age and price is worth 5 times than Z6. Color rendering is also better in d810
When you wet your pants, you only stay warm for the moment before the chill. Fixing a D810 will cost more than what you paid for. Something people dont talk about sadly. I owned mine for 6 years. Also the dynamic range isnt as good as a Pentax which is bad.
th-cam.com/video/qZAGlQwjgMI/w-d-xo.html
Love your videos. I can't wait to see what is next for the Z6II and Z7II with the (early rumored) firmware 2.0
Sweet~! Firmware 2.0~!
I can honestly say, Nikon is really pushing the envelope this time around. So many improvement this past year. ( Its almost 1 year ~! . time flies)
cheers Joe!
But let's see, let's see, the Z6 ii was released in 2020 and the Nikon D810 in 2014, 6 years apart. Are you telling me that 6 years apart that's the most progress I can get with the Z6II? It is definitely a scam. This means that the D810 has been well ahead of its time. In another sense, the D810 is a sublime camera, and of course, you're seeing those differences because you're doing forced tests, but in an everyday photo you'll hardly see any difference. Now, if you talk about the fact that there is no longer support or repair, well, everything will depend on where you live and that will have a correlation with the repair technician in terms of their prices. A D810 on Ebay goes for $700, you would be the most bad luck man in the world if it were damaged after buying it a month. I am about to buy the D810, as long as it lasts 2 or 3 years... That investment would already be more than profitable. Where is the fear? Great video 👌
You can use the same excuse and buy a D800 or any used full frame in that matter. The scam isnt the tech, its your lack of need during challenging light. D810 is discontinued and to repair might be soon to be over like my D800 did. Also if your spending money on a system that might last for 2-3 years, that is a mindset of a hobbyist . Then in that case, enjoy the ride. Cheers
@@theCameraVilledude my 30 years old f5 still works like a charm. There are way older cameras still working the 800 camera is pro grade built to last way more then the average guy could do to it
@@phillippugh2161 That is based on users handling. You cant put a blanket statement on those who arent careful with their gear. That is irresponsible of you. Guys like you probably dont shoot. Just collect dust and pretends everything work as day one.
As a owner of Z6 II I can say one world... is mind blowing camera best ever I have
Its the one I am using more often now and days. Once that blackout is gone, I will be switching entirely.
@@michelthebassplayer I own and review the D850 in the past before.
What lense do u use for it?
le solite marchette con i prodotti nuovi... ma non vede che la D810 è più nitida, colori più saturi, poi bisogna vedere come sono state sviluppate le immagini dai NEF perchè IO NON HO MAI VISTO TUTTO QUEL MAGENTA SULLE IMMAGINI. Il cielo, a 6'31" che rende la D810 se li può dimenticare la Z6... un piattume grigio. Idem a 6'30" con la testa scultorea; si vede che sono stati fatti 2 bianchi differenti ma la profondità nelle ombre che ha la D810 è imbattibile (ovvero solo la D850 o la Z9 la superano).
No , negative. Old sensor and old processing engine. D810 isnt BSI and D850 is the first BSI. Z6II is newly developed tech. Good luck.
I Would take the D810 every time you can keep the z 6 .
Wait till they cut off the repair service for that model. You going to end up paying even more for service.
z6 or z6ii equal
Exactly.. the price on z6 is pretty attractive if you can live with the express cards
The Z6 Is plenty for anyone. If you need that extra speed, the II is pretty good but if I would had start over again, I would look at Z6. The Z6II didnt fix the lag sadly.
They are almost equal. The Z6 gets a bit of colorbending when you are pushing shadows too hard. The Z6 II doesn’t have that (or at least to a much lesser degree)
Is there a difference? Yes. Is there a 1200 dollar difference? No. That is impressive AF
nice~!!
Hands down the Nikon Z system is the best. No other camera system on the market can touch it. I have owned my Z6II for two months and I am just amazed at the images. If you can find one get it!
D810 and D4s. Just say no to the mirrorless ! Resist resist resist. Not worth it.
Wait till you need a repair on the dslr. Cost a ton due to supply and demand.
@@theCameraVille the same will eventually happen to the z6ll no repair, this is my take on it if you like dslr more then get them now while they are cheap and use them till they don’t work and upgrade as needed, I own many Nikon dslr and shoot mostly with the DF love that camera but I also own z7ll and z8
@@morgankarno7335 Its cheaper to repair the mirrorless than dslr.
Please get rid of the annoying music.
no one ever complained for 5 years😂 So no.
@@theCameraVille 🤣
Btw, the files from the D810 kind of look like it really is in a cloudy day. The Z6 II look nicer, though.
I love my z6 ii
Its an excellent system.
Try trying to sell a client a 24mp photo....Yeah Right !! ............
Try to get that D810 fix these days LOL.
Long live d810!!!
Its a 2014 era. 10 years ago . Time flies.
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Please made a video on fujifilm xt200 😬😬😬
A Fuji? how come? What is wrong my friend.
Stop. Moving. These. Photos!!!
Never!!!! ❤️
You are the best camera equipment reviewer on You Tube.
Michael!! Much appreciated my guy~!
D810 all the way
I would look into a K1 over D810. Thats what I ended up doing with my D810.