Also >Never listen to pink floyd in sequence >Freddy Mercury shouldn't sing on stage - he falls apart. >Dylan shouldn't write songs (ok, I'm being a dick. But c'mon)
News flash: This was LIVE. I can even tell you what show. The infamous 5/8/77 Barton Hall show from Cornell University in Ithaca, NY. Every Dead Head knows this show and this version of this song. Phil's whooping bass is a signature. I have this show in my car CD player right now. Grateful Dead are a LIVE band. If you had seen them, you would agree. Why? Because, "There is nothing like a Grateful Dead concert, never has been, never will be". You had to be there.
Like, somebody has clearly got to be ribbing you, man. They send you completely unrepresentative live performance videos, and then they send you a song off of one of their most legendary concerts and tell you that it's studio? The entire concert is released in full for free. Everybody who listens to the Dead knows about Cornell 5/8/77.
This show from Cornel University is enshrined in The Library of Congress. Our nation didn't select one of their studio albums...they selected a live show. That's how important of a live band they were. Also the Dead never had a setlist. They called songs. Not many artists do that. most bands rehearse a set of songs for a tour. Not the Dead. You never knew what you would get. Yeah, sometimes it fell apart. But other times it was magical, like nothing you could understand unless you were there. And that's what made people, including myself, disappear on the Dead tour. You didn't want to miss something magical. Like Bill Graham said so well.... "The Grateful Dead aren't the best at what they do. The Grateful Dead are the only ones that do what they do."
Perhaps the cruelest/funniest part of the joke that somebody is playing on you and the Deadheads getting infuriated watching these videos is that, while you were sent a truly beloved song from one of the most beloved concerts of this band, and told that it was a studio recording when it's clearly not, the thing that fans like most about this song live is that it segues perfectly into "Fire on the Mountain," where the band really takes the energy to a whole other level. You'll see it written out as Scarlet Begonias > Fire on the Mountain or just Scarlet > Fire. There are many live versions of this song from before 1977 where it is just played as a standalone track, but whoever is sending you these videos made sure to do one where it just stops in the middle of the segue. I must say, top tier trolling, even though it sucks that you are being misled.
Just to pile on...this IS a live performance...:) They are the definitive touring band. They performed over 2300 live shows and are best heard in their live performances as they never quite captured the "electricity" of their live performances in the studio.
The fact that you sincerely believed this was a studio version is the best testimony possible to their extraordinary talent as a band playing live. Add to that that every live version of every song is different every time. Some times bettrr and sometimes not but alway artistically different. THAT was and is the attraction to the fans
@@Lchristyhastings Definitely not me pranking him. I've repeatedly left comments trying to make him realize what's going on, but idk if he reads them. I find it frustrating but funny.
I'm very surprised you couldn't tell this was a live recording, it sounded nothing like a studio. You just proved why experiments need to be done blind. See, you thought it was a studio recording so your perception was different and you liked it. Again I'm not a Grateful Dead aficionado but I can decern a live recording from a studio (generally speaking).
Yes. It’s so obviously live....audience cheering for one. But anyone who has ever played an instrument (as he says he does) should recognize the drums alone...so obviously not being played in a studio. Come on man.
I've made this comment before but I'll say it again. Just because some person sent you a couple live videos of The Dead on TH-cam and you made up your mind based on what you saw, doesn't mean that you are getting the full picture. You watched two outtakes that were released as special features on two DVD releases and then were uploaded to the band's official youtube. They are a legendary live band. They toured relentlessly from 1970 to 1995 with only one year, 1975, where they took a hiatus. They played over 2,000 concerts in the 30 years that they were a band.
No he didn't. The jam *afterwards* is really good but the actual song is just ok and tbh it sounded better pre-77 and with more energy. The 2 drummer feel on this song is rather plodding
At this point I'm just going to laugh when somebody sends you the 2 minute studio single version of "Dark Star" by the Grateful Dead and they tell you that it's a very famous live version, and then you continue to conclude that they had no idea what they were doing on a live stage. 😂😂😂
The live version on their 1969 live album "Live Dead" is fantastic, as is the whole album. My personal favorite from the album is probably "Death Don't Have No Mercy".
@@frankgobel2168 Yeah but they don't know what they're doing live. They only released the first ever live rock album to use a 16-track recording (the aforementioned Live/Dead) They have only released more raw live recorded material than pretty much any major band. They've only released several classic highly successful live albums. But what do I know? This guy watched two videos and said they didn't know what they were doing. Clearly an expert.
appreciate that you gave the Dead another chance. do studio tracks if that's your thing, but the Dead were a hard working touring band and their live performances are where it's at. Try songs off of their Europe '72 release. Very clean, very crisp, very tight shows and recordings. They were a band that took chances on stage. They didn't put out albums and tour to support the album, playing the songs from the album, like you'd hear them on the album. That kind of improvisation isn't for everybody's ears. Personally, I love it and listen to the Dead all the time.
i hear ya----however, i never, EVER get newbies into the dead unless its with studio tho...for one, im sorry, but 98 times out of 100, the sound quality ismt spectacular, and u cant really hear all the nuance, unless u know the clear, studio versions....idk, i could go on and on----its not even necessarily just a "grateful dead" thing, for me that pretty much goes with any band....but really, imo, with the dead....most boot recordings are just too unofficial, and the sound isn't spectacular, at least the boots in the 90's werent (the ones i had, from all decades----except the mid-60's ones, the 65, and 66 ones in the small venues, those were AMAZING)-----yeah, i dont know, G.D. is just an acquired taste as it is, and im always very, very careful about how approach getting some 1 into them for the first time (ESPECIALLY a fellow musician)-----i just cant expect them, or assume theyre going to "get" the wildly improvised live shows, with poor sound quality, with 20 songs the new listener has ever heard-----thats just my method/take on the situation....amd all that being said, i love the dead so much, ill listen to any dead show, any time, from any year, of any recording quality, just so u know, so im with u, as a fan, 100%-----its just a gingerly climb to get to that point for a lot of people/newbies, and im always aware of that when introducing them to someone
I don't know who is sending you these links but this is the second time the video was cut during the transaction into another song. The first time was during "Truckin'" when the video cut during their transaction into "Drums" and now this was cut during their transaction into "Fire On The Mountain". The Grateful Dead is a jam band, you may love their jams or you may hate them but that was part of the fun in seeing them live. If you want to sample some of their live stuff, I suggest starting with their live album "Europe '72". If you like that then maybe you can try some of their more interesting tracks.
You know that was a live track right? And that’s what the fans and the band itself was trying accomplish. The fact they played different shows with different set list every night and every show, pulling from maybe 200 or so potential songs, in a different city every week, unrehearsed makes for some variation and potentially being off or creating something unique and at times. Bands that rehearse the same set list and songs every night will be on point more likely but that’s not what the Dead were. Most classic rock bands will play the same songs for a whole tour. Many artists don’t. I live in New Orleans and can tell you that many of jazz artists and improvised performers go through the same issues the Dead would on that you don’t always catch the best version of a song or performance because they are reinventing it every time . Throw in the fact they are playing something different every night makes it more interesting When it happens it’s magical. . But they are not rehearsing the same crap to give you a polished predicted product, and not meant to be. The Dead, like a lot of the jazz performers, were testing that realm night after night and pushing the music to crate a tension and friction. that does not always relate to easy listening and does not guarantee that everyone having to like it. It really depends on your definition of what music is. I’d rather see a band honestly trying to create something unique rather than giving me the regurgitate polished product. Doing unrehearsed songs night after night, and doing them with improvised objectives does not always come out “good” but when it does it connects on certain levels that are not like most musical experiences But that’s just me. Everyone’s expectation of a performer or artist is different I suppose. But it’s important to at least know what their objectives are. Much like appreciating art more when you know what the painters was trying to go for.
You gotta admit they deserve respect for never doing the same live show twice - they always changed up the song selections for each show. A lot of times they played songs to match the mood of the day/night, songs chosen on the fly.
This live recording is so pristine, you are forgiven for thinking it was a studio cut. When you have a chance, check out the Fire on the Mountain, They Love Each Other, Dancin in the Streets, and the Morning Dew from this concert. Fire on the Mountain th-cam.com/video/ZGPeO9jZYvM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GratefulDead-Topic They Love Each Other th-cam.com/video/58JTV8kW2_8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GratefulDead-Topic Morning Dew th-cam.com/video/RMotfSyRcwU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GratefulDead-Topic Dancin in the Streets th-cam.com/video/eV16Ysr03Vw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GratefulDead-Topic
There is only one way to truly and experience the Dead and that is actually attending a live show. Unfortunately that is not possible any more. Sure they had their moments on stage but that was part of their charm. Could attend a 3 day stop over and hear 3 different sets, while any songs repeated were different each show. The atmosphere created by the crowd was the experience with the Grateful Dead as a backdrop. Spent the summer 1980 Dead Headin' around the Midwest, 14 shows in all, before heading to Great Lakes for basic. Pure magic.
LOL Almost positive this is live from Cornell 77, Fire on the Mountain into this is sublime, you need to keep listening to more than one song at a time.
One of my favorite Grateful Dead songs, Scarlet Begonias, this was a live version. Fire on the Mountain, Morning Dew, Sugaree, just for future listening. Keep Truckin' along Chod, my friend. PEACE
In my opinion when first discovery the dead you should always listen to the studio version. Ive been a dead head since 17 and im 61. The shows are for the experience! Only a dead head can appreciate a dead show. That was a live recording. ✌❤
@@barbarascotto3873 Exactly! Like the Dead need ANY redemption. It's fine to not like their music. But respect the artists enough to know what you're reacting to, before you blindly trash them. Saying the Dead should stick to the studio is like saying Freddy Mercury should stick to the studio, bc he falls apart on stage. I doubt he'll ever get what the Dead do.
I'll tell you that as many times as I've seen the Dead - Scarlett >Fire was a jam I never got sick of. When they're all locked in during the transition jam to Fire there's something magical about it. I will also admit there times were it was sloppy. If you want to here pure fire listen to almost any weather report Suite from 73 or estimated prophet from Hartford 77.
You definitely need to do a follow-up where you listen to the end of this Scarlet, through the transition, and into Fire on the Mountain. Love your open-mindedness though, most people would give up on a band after all the other tracks you've heard. Lol Edit: Here is the full Scarlet -> Fire on the Mountain th-cam.com/video/KVM9uu4mIcw/w-d-xo.html Also a great performance of a song written in tribute to their dear friend Janice Joblin: th-cam.com/video/Xe2u7ogAgtQ/w-d-xo.html Another great love performance, Terrapin Station. It's such a beautiful song. th-cam.com/video/gnnBsBQ72BQ/w-d-xo.html
I love the Dead and don't even have one full studio album. Most Dead fans collect live shows, there are thounsands to pick from. Yeah some aren't great, but that what happens when you let people record every show. Most bands would not dare let people do that just because they want to control what gets out to the people. The Dead didn't care as long as they were having fun and their fans were digging it, that's all that mattered. BTW, this is a live track.
You just reacted to a song from arguably one of their greatest "live" performances. Check out some more off of the Cornell '77 show and you'll see why.
Sublime recorded a great version of this song on 40oz. to Freedom album. This version was live. There was just a lot of drugs in the band, sometimes they were great other times they would fall apart, but they usually pulled it together.
Yeah - they were improvisational (like jazz) and they worked without a net - so sometimes they fell down in the middle of their attempts at something great. And sometimes they produced a sweet sweet gem like the one you just heard (which was a live recording). I wish people would steer you to the gems like Cornell '77 instead of the clips that only a mother would love. I saw Jerry 28 times - I am a ~huge~ fan. But they lived dangerously on stage (like a good jazz band) and they fell on their face sometimes. Over the years there were a few drugs used as well, but the band has been playing shows from 1965 to present (in one form or another). Some of the Dead & Company shows from 2015 - present are spectacular! They are much more polished than the early Dead - and John Mayer is more consistently hot and polished while jumping through improvisational hoops than Jerry was (
Id stick with the studio versions unless you're mid acid trip like the band definitely are during the shows lolol still love em tho ^-^ Sublime does an amazing cover of this song too btw. Def worth checking out.
Chod: check out Eyes of the World from the Wake Out to Find Out album which is live from the Nassau Coliseum on 3/29/90. Branford Marseilles has a solo in the middle of the song that will blow your socks off. I know there's a video of it on TH-cam. There is nothing better than live Dead.
This was LIVE, not studio, like you said. The Dead are the best. As I've said before, you need to do later Dead LIVE, late 80's and early, early 90's. Even a casual listener can dig those shows.
Chod, I am with you completely on Led Zeppelin and Yes, but I completely disagree with you on the Dead. They're all about playing live. I am thinking that maybe you just don't like the randomness of a live performance. Do yourself a favor and listen to some live versions of stuff by Yes and Led Zeppelin. You're going to find that it lacks in the studio discipline you seem to prefer.
True for Zep, but disagree on Yes. Their live performances are phenomenal. As Alan White once said, "There are a lot of notes in a Yes concert, and you have to play all of them." 😄
@@RoseNunezSmith just use Yessongs as an example. They are phenomenal live true but they aren't as tight strictly speaking and arrangements have to be altered for lack of dubbing, etc. My point isn't about the quality of a band live, it's about the spontaneity, good and bad, of live performances. I like a band that changes up the way they play stuff live, tempo, arrangements, etc.
@@paulprendergast3184 I get your point. But I'd still say on the sliding scale of "live looseness" the Dead are on the far, far loose end, and Yes are way over on the "tighter" side, and Zep somewhere between them. Didn't Jimmy Page say something once about playing "tight but loose"? If not, he could have; that's how they struck me live. Whereas I'd have a hard time calling Yes "loose," even though they're improvisational and not afraid of jamming. The outro of Starship Trooper at any of their shows is usually a great extended jam. Still dialed in and tight as hell, though.
I hope you read the comments my guy lmao. This whole show is on point. And I could recommend live versions of all the songs you don't like that I guarantee will redeem them.
Well, this is live Greatful Dead. When I was in my twenties or early thirties the Dead wasn't my cup of tea. Once I got to Forty they started to grow on me. Take a moment and look at their body of work. Maybe the JGB would be a place to start? Perhaps it's me..but I love the off playing.
If you want Dead studio albums start with American Beauty and Workingman's Dead. That's cool acoustic folk tunes you don't hear much in live shows. Aoxomoxoa and Anthem of the Sun are wild and experimental, give St Stephen a listen. Peace
Someone was having a rib with you. This is most definitely live,probably the most listened to Dead show ever as the tapes of this show have been copied and passed around and copied again millions of times over. The entire Barton Hall show from 5/8/77 is actually part of the National Recording Registry at the Library of Congress for it's cultural impact (and,IMO,excellence).
This particular show (Barton Hall 1977) if i'm not mistaken has been enshrined in the Library of Congress....this song goes into Fire On the Mountain....
over 2,300 live shows. most of them taped. while other bands where saying "no taping or photography", they set up a special section for tapers. "falling apart" is the good stuff.
europe '72 (so clean it sounds like studio).. any of the many cornell shows. 72-77 (live) is the sweet spot. the live versions probably do sound better after the albums. "american beauty" and "workingman's dead" are great studio albums to start with.
....THIS IS LIVE... this is from the famous Cornell concert of 5/8/77. You don't have to like the dead live (obviously), but you're honestly embarrassing yourself by putting such harsh generalizations based on like 2 bad live performances. I think you should listen a little more before you put down such definitive statements. Listen to 9/3/77 Mississippi half-step, 2/23/74 here comes sunshine or 4/24/78 music never stopped and i think you'll see how laughably wrong your assessment of their live performances are. If you don't like those than the deads probably just not your thing, but AT MINIMUM, i think you'll at least respect them or form some sort of appreciation for the band.
maybe Chod is secretly a Deadhead and is trolling us. ::listens to lackluster versions of classic dead tunes:: "this band sucks live!" then watches us all go crazy.
No band plays for 30 years without some mistakes. They have great live shows. It honestly pisses me off cause people aren’t pointing you in the right directions. Try the music never stopped from dicks picks volume 3. It won’t disappoint Props for catching the line in this song. One of my favorite dead quotes ☺️
It's so sad seeing someone who clearly likes good music being misled by random people and having his vision clouded about one of the best rock bands of all-time.
@@nealpierson9072 exactly. I wish people would stop recommending radio dead n send some of the greats. Dicks picks volume 3, 6 n 8 would be great starts. A 70, 77, n 83 show. All fire!!
And most bands don't let people record every show and put it out to the masses. Of course there will be some bad ones out there, usually it's due to poor quality recording, but sometimes they do really screw up a song. I have a few recordings where they just stopped and started the song over.
Avg annual repertoire of GD was 200+ tunes. Lifetime over 500 tunes played. Greatest live touring band in history of music. Admired even by their haters. Cummon man....get informed if youre gonna review this stuff.
You say messy. We say brave. These men never had a set list. These men never played the same song twice the same way live. An aggressively deliberate improvisational band.
Best Dead songs: Cold Rain and Snow (studio version only) Box of Rain Friend of the Devil High Time Dire Wolf Best Long Jams: Dark Star Pretty much everything from before 1970
Alo Ha New Friend...thank you for getting me to look deeply into the definition of the word,"tempo"..i didnt know there was so much in that part of music theory i didnt know yet...from my little experience with all the back grounds from the band members, maybe especially the jazz history part, it could be a bit moody on any given day/night and still is....it has never been staged,well, in this finite stage yes?....before i became a dead head in 83, i grew up with Michael Jackson being my music hero before Jerry took over..i still wish i could ask Michael what he meant in " they don't really care about us"?...i think i might get it looking around at the show....maybe the reaching out welcoming part a bit not what i hope for yet....check out this music theory stuff about Jackson they i never knew...bless bless ---IF THE LINK DONT WORK ITS A TH-cam VIDEO CALLED, HOW MICHAEL JACKSON CRAFTED HIS FIRST SOLO HIT-----th-cam.com/video/A3nKAvIc8to/w-d-xo.html
Little late to this but here is my two cents. Redeem themselves, now that is funny, they have millions of fans and were a culture phenomena, thousands followed them all over the world show after show people who have seen them live 100's of times, their concerts were not just about the music but about a way of life you cannot talk about the 60's and the 70's music without mentioning them. Their music embodied the 60's counter culture, make love, not war!
Dude if you like this one you should check out two of the best Brent organ playing videos, He's Gone and Blow Away. Absolutely some of the best. Just to see the chemistry between Jerry and Brent is well worth a watch!
i have so much to say about the dead----in their defense, and about their shortcomings, theyre a very odd, albeit highly unique band in american history----bob dylan LOVED them, especially jerry garcia (the toured as dylan's backing band in 1987, dylan even left the house in 1995, for the much media-covered spectacle that was jerry garcia's funeral [bob steadfastly avoids such things])----anyway, the had 2 drummers from about 1969 onward.....i, personally, tend to prefer them with one drummer, which was roughly the period from 1965 to 1968, the were much more focused, and compact i think....but, they had a "family" type of attitude and view of their circle, and didnt want exclude mickey hart (i think, i dont know)...there were times in the 80's when garcia would get pissed about there being 2 drummers, and hed say "i cant play with that fucking popcorn machine behind me anymore"-----anyway, that being said, when it all worked, it worked great, and they definitely had a unique vibe, and sound, and mood, and atmosphere------i, agian, just personally prefer them w/ one drummer, their first album, from 1967 is just fire, super uptempo bangers, fuled by being on speed,,and probably acid, its really spectacular, ive turned quite a few non-believers onto them by letting them hear the live shows (in small clubs, with MUCH better sound quality), from the early days (1965, and 1966) its ALL VERY early tight, 60's type rock songs, and at the same time VERY blues heavy, thanks to ron "pigpen" mckernan who was their early frontman, and organ/keys player (he was an alcoholic, and usually the only one not tripping on LSD, so he was kinda the one they turned to when all the others were gakked out of their minds, and pigpen would lead them out of the woods (musically), he was an amazingly soulful blues singer (these are all more reasons why getting people into early grateful dead is easier than the later period stuff)----anyway, pigpen died in 1972 of liver disease at 27 years old, and jerry always maintained that the true grateful dead died with him----that being said, their studio stiff is fantastic, and kind of a must to understand them live, without it, u can get kind of lost. most deadheads dont much give a crap about the studio stuff (not all of them, but significantl percentage....most of them are just the "party people" types tho, who cared as much about the drugs as the music anyway...which, bob weir, these days, renounces, he has for a long, long time)-----anyway, i ramble-----theyre an american oddity/phenomenon, but theyre also an acquired taste----theyre spectacular musicians, but the "2 drummers" thing would be hard for a lot of bands to pull off 100% of the time.....if u want to try to approach them the best way is with thr first albums (from 1967 to 1970: debut, anthem of the sun, working man's dead, and american beauty) and theres quite a few (single drummer) early shows from 1965, and 1966, with good sound, that are SUPER interesting-----from there, u kinda get a feel for them, and u can move further down the rabbit hole to the later albums----but i would COMPLETELY avoid live stuff from the 70's and 80's without the proper studio version introductions...once u get those, they kinda grow on u, and the shows are more understandable------jeez, theyre just such a bunch of lovable kooks, i didnt much like them at first either, they have a way of winning u over, they creep up on u....garcia was very interesting in that one of his heroes was jazz guitarist wes montgumery.....not that it has a lot to do with wes as far as i know, but garcia' s "soloing" style on guitar, was derived from "listening to the jazz horn players for phrasing", he took that approach when playing, and was very/pretty unique in that way---jerrynwas a hell of a thing, the true genius/icon of the group, and his solo band Jerry Garcia Band is amazing by pretty much any musician's standards----i pretty much like jerry garcia band more than the dead, not that i dont like, or to take anything away from the dead. the dead, i just like JG Band more
Bro the grateful dead didn't even like to be in the studio but bro any band will have a bad show and they toured for years at a time you need to find more live shows seriously
So they are the largest grossing act in music history. The overwhelming criticism of them has been that their studio music is awful but their live act phenomenal. Not sure what live stuff you were listening to but look up anything from cornel '77.
I'm glad you give other chances. I want to post a link on who I want you to give another chance to, but TH-cam sometimes doesn't like links. I will try messaging you on patreon.
Bro for REAL check out the "Live Albums Collection" on Spotify. All top notch live performances. 83 tracks that will convince you of the Dead's live greatness. You've been served some bad performances. Where do you take requests? I'll send you some winners.
The GD are not for everyone. You either like them or you don't. You can't judge them by the standards of other musical acts as they are their own entity. They go on an adventure every time they go onstage and sometimes those adventures end up with missteps and sometimes they reach the mountain tops. They have never promised anything more or less. If you want a stage rendition of a studio version this is not the band for you.
"Obviously, the live stage just wasn't for them." Oh my friend, you have NO clue 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Wow. You’re correct. No clue.
Talk about a cringe inducing statement.. I don't know who is sending him these song links but I think they are messing with him..
Also
>Never listen to pink floyd in sequence
>Freddy Mercury shouldn't sing on stage - he falls apart.
>Dylan shouldn't write songs
(ok, I'm being a dick. But c'mon)
😂
Somebody send him a great live version of “Estimated Prophet” ASAP!!
News flash: This was LIVE. I can even tell you what show. The infamous 5/8/77 Barton Hall show from Cornell University in Ithaca, NY. Every Dead Head knows this show and this version of this song. Phil's whooping bass is a signature. I have this show in my car CD player right now. Grateful Dead are a LIVE band. If you had seen them, you would agree. Why? Because, "There is nothing like a Grateful Dead concert, never has been, never will be". You had to be there.
Bob Schenkel ✌️👏🙌 preach it brother.
Cornell is definitely the best.
Love Phil’s bass in this
Like, somebody has clearly got to be ribbing you, man. They send you completely unrepresentative live performance videos, and then they send you a song off of one of their most legendary concerts and tell you that it's studio? The entire concert is released in full for free. Everybody who listens to the Dead knows about Cornell 5/8/77.
PS: there was even crowd noise throughout the song and you couldn't tell it was live lmao...too funny
This show from Cornel University is enshrined in The Library of Congress. Our nation didn't select one of their studio albums...they selected a live show. That's how important of a live band they were.
Also the Dead never had a setlist. They called songs. Not many artists do that. most bands rehearse a set of songs for a tour. Not the Dead. You never knew what you would get. Yeah, sometimes it fell apart. But other times it was magical, like nothing you could understand unless you were there. And that's what made people, including myself, disappear on the Dead tour. You didn't want to miss something magical.
Like Bill Graham said so well....
"The Grateful Dead aren't the best at what they do. The Grateful Dead are the only ones that do what they do."
The studio albums serve as blueprints. They're basically an afterthought in Grateful Dead culture.
Perhaps the cruelest/funniest part of the joke that somebody is playing on you and the Deadheads getting infuriated watching these videos is that, while you were sent a truly beloved song from one of the most beloved concerts of this band, and told that it was a studio recording when it's clearly not, the thing that fans like most about this song live is that it segues perfectly into "Fire on the Mountain," where the band really takes the energy to a whole other level. You'll see it written out as Scarlet Begonias > Fire on the Mountain or just Scarlet > Fire. There are many live versions of this song from before 1977 where it is just played as a standalone track, but whoever is sending you these videos made sure to do one where it just stops in the middle of the segue. I must say, top tier trolling, even though it sucks that you are being misled.
Just to pile on...this IS a live performance...:)
They are the definitive touring band. They performed over 2300 live shows and are best heard in their live performances as they never quite captured the "electricity" of their live performances in the studio.
The fact that you sincerely believed this was a studio version is the best testimony possible to their extraordinary talent as a band playing live. Add to that that every live version of every song is different every time. Some times bettrr and sometimes not but alway artistically different. THAT was and is the attraction to the fans
The live stage wasn’t for them?!? Oh brother.
"Unless you guys can redeem them with a live performance." Uhhh, pretty sure you just did that for us, bro.
Lol. My thoughts exactly.
I think he needs to do the Cornell Dew to redeem himself.
Is this you pranking him? If so, it's hilarious. You also giving me palpitations...
The Dead don't need redemption.
Cornell BEW
@@Lchristyhastings Definitely not me pranking him. I've repeatedly left comments trying to make him realize what's going on, but idk if he reads them. I find it frustrating but funny.
I'm very surprised you couldn't tell this was a live recording, it sounded nothing like a studio. You just proved why experiments need to be done blind. See, you thought it was a studio recording so your perception was different and you liked it. Again I'm not a Grateful Dead aficionado but I can decern a live recording from a studio (generally speaking).
Yes. It’s so obviously live....audience cheering for one. But anyone who has ever played an instrument (as he says he does) should recognize the drums alone...so obviously not being played in a studio. Come on man.
I've made this comment before but I'll say it again. Just because some person sent you a couple live videos of The Dead on TH-cam and you made up your mind based on what you saw, doesn't mean that you are getting the full picture. You watched two outtakes that were released as special features on two DVD releases and then were uploaded to the band's official youtube. They are a legendary live band. They toured relentlessly from 1970 to 1995 with only one year, 1975, where they took a hiatus. They played over 2,000 concerts in the 30 years that they were a band.
Yes, THIS WAS A LIVE VERSION! Yeah, with the crowd cheering.
This is absolutely a live performance!
You literally just listened to THE DEFINITIVE LIVE VERSION of "Scarlet Begonias"!!!
No he didn't. The jam *afterwards* is really good but the actual song is just ok and tbh it sounded better pre-77 and with more energy. The 2 drummer feel on this song is rather plodding
@Braden C McClure yeah ok....have you heard every version of Scarlet?
At this point I'm just going to laugh when somebody sends you the 2 minute studio single version of "Dark Star" by the Grateful Dead and they tell you that it's a very famous live version, and then you continue to conclude that they had no idea what they were doing on a live stage. 😂😂😂
The live version on their 1969 live album "Live Dead" is fantastic, as is the whole album. My personal favorite from the album is probably "Death Don't Have No Mercy".
@@frankgobel2168 Yeah but they don't know what they're doing live. They only released the first ever live rock album to use a 16-track recording (the aforementioned Live/Dead) They have only released more raw live recorded material than pretty much any major band. They've only released several classic highly successful live albums. But what do I know? This guy watched two videos and said they didn't know what they were doing. Clearly an expert.
appreciate that you gave the Dead another chance. do studio tracks if that's your thing, but the Dead were a hard working touring band and their live performances are where it's at. Try songs off of their Europe '72 release. Very clean, very crisp, very tight shows and recordings. They were a band that took chances on stage. They didn't put out albums and tour to support the album, playing the songs from the album, like you'd hear them on the album. That kind of improvisation isn't for everybody's ears. Personally, I love it and listen to the Dead all the time.
i hear ya----however, i never, EVER get newbies into the dead unless its with studio tho...for one, im sorry, but 98 times out of 100, the sound quality ismt spectacular, and u cant really hear all the nuance, unless u know the clear, studio versions....idk, i could go on and on----its not even necessarily just a "grateful dead" thing, for me that pretty much goes with any band....but really, imo, with the dead....most boot recordings are just too unofficial, and the sound isn't spectacular, at least the boots in the 90's werent (the ones i had, from all decades----except the mid-60's ones, the 65, and 66 ones in the small venues, those were AMAZING)-----yeah, i dont know, G.D. is just an acquired taste as it is, and im always very, very careful about how approach getting some 1 into them for the first time (ESPECIALLY a fellow musician)-----i just cant expect them, or assume theyre going to "get" the wildly improvised live shows, with poor sound quality, with 20 songs the new listener has ever heard-----thats just my method/take on the situation....amd all that being said, i love the dead so much, ill listen to any dead show, any time, from any year, of any recording quality, just so u know, so im with u, as a fan, 100%-----its just a gingerly climb to get to that point for a lot of people/newbies, and im always aware of that when introducing them to someone
if they all had the sound quality of the live Reckoning album, itd be a totally different story, ya know? but unfortunately, no, not quite...
How can you not know this is live??!!?? You just don't get the dead. I admit it took my first Dead Concert to make me a believer. Long live the Dead
Dude!!! This is LIVE. Whoever told you this was studio dropped too much acid.
😂😂😂
Way too much. Either that or they completely missed Mars Hotel.
From Cornell 5-8-77. These guys were unafraid to go looking for the groove.
I don't know who is sending you these links but this is the second time the video was cut during the transaction into another song. The first time was during "Truckin'" when the video cut during their transaction into "Drums" and now this was cut during their transaction into "Fire On The Mountain". The Grateful Dead is a jam band, you may love their jams or you may hate them but that was part of the fun in seeing them live. If you want to sample some of their live stuff, I suggest starting with their live album "Europe '72". If you like that then maybe you can try some of their more interesting tracks.
Someone has gotta be messing with him, and thereby getting all of our jimmies rustled.
You know that was a live track right? And that’s what the fans and the band itself was trying accomplish. The fact they played different shows with different set list every night and every show, pulling from maybe 200 or so potential songs, in a different city every week, unrehearsed makes for some variation and potentially being off or creating something unique and at times. Bands that rehearse the same set list and songs every night will be on point more likely but that’s not what the Dead were. Most classic rock bands will play the same songs for a whole tour. Many artists don’t. I live in New Orleans and can tell you that many of jazz artists and improvised performers go through the same issues the Dead would on that you don’t always catch the best version of a song or performance because they are reinventing it every time . Throw in the fact they are playing something different every night makes it more interesting When it happens it’s magical. . But they are not rehearsing the same crap to give you a polished predicted product, and not meant to be. The Dead, like a lot of the jazz performers, were testing that realm night after night and pushing the music to crate a tension and friction. that does not always relate to easy listening and does not guarantee that everyone having to like it. It really depends on your definition of what music is. I’d rather see a band honestly trying to create something unique rather than giving me the regurgitate polished product. Doing unrehearsed songs night after night, and doing them with improvised objectives does not always come out “good” but when it does it connects on certain levels that are not like most musical experiences But that’s just me. Everyone’s expectation of a performer or artist is different I suppose. But it’s important to at least know what their objectives are. Much like appreciating art more when you know what the painters was trying to go for.
Chod, they DO sound like this live on stage; they are famous for their live shows. You need to see/hear more Grateful Dead.
I think he needs to leave them alone. He clearly doesn't get them, & can't hear anything but mistakes.
@@Lchristyhastings Good point.
They sound like this live on stage because this IS LIVE ON STAGE! LOL, sorry, had to get that out. I know it's overkill at this point 🤣
@@barbarascotto3873 Lol. We keep hoping he'll figured it all out.
You gotta admit they deserve respect for never doing the same live show twice - they always changed up the song selections for each show. A lot of times they played songs to match the mood of the day/night, songs chosen on the fly.
They can take a while to "get" but once you do, you can't stop.
Chod, they are considered the greatest seminal live touring band above and beyond all others in the history of the genre. No one comes close.
The best Live Grateful Dead album cuts to check out in my opinion are those from Europe '72
This live recording is so pristine, you are forgiven for thinking it was a studio cut. When you have a chance, check out the Fire on the Mountain, They Love Each Other, Dancin in the Streets, and the Morning Dew from this concert.
Fire on the Mountain th-cam.com/video/ZGPeO9jZYvM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GratefulDead-Topic
They Love Each Other th-cam.com/video/58JTV8kW2_8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GratefulDead-Topic
Morning Dew th-cam.com/video/RMotfSyRcwU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GratefulDead-Topic
Dancin in the Streets th-cam.com/video/eV16Ysr03Vw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GratefulDead-Topic
There is only one way to truly and experience the Dead and that is actually attending a live show. Unfortunately that is not possible any more. Sure they had their moments on stage but that was part of their charm. Could attend a 3 day stop over and hear 3 different sets, while any songs repeated were different each show. The atmosphere created by the crowd was the experience with the Grateful Dead as a backdrop. Spent the summer 1980 Dead Headin' around the Midwest, 14 shows in all, before heading to Great Lakes for basic. Pure magic.
The live version from Cornell May 8th, 1977 is the DEFINITIVE version, along with its companion jam tune "Fire On A Mountain".
I kinda like ‘83 Hartford (dicks picks volume 6) Who doesn’t like xylophones
That WAS Cornell, which he then cut in 2.
@@Lchristyhastings I realized that after the fact. Lol
LOL Almost positive this is live from Cornell 77, Fire on the Mountain into this is sublime, you need to keep listening to more than one song at a time.
One of my favorite Grateful Dead songs, Scarlet Begonias, this was a live version. Fire on the Mountain, Morning Dew, Sugaree, just for future listening. Keep Truckin' along Chod, my friend. PEACE
In my opinion when first discovery the dead you should always listen to the studio version. Ive been a dead head since 17 and im 61. The shows are for the experience! Only a dead head can appreciate a dead show. That was a live recording. ✌❤
My experience is exactly the opposite. They never reached the heights of musical brilliance and spontaneity they achieved on stage in the studio.
Why aren't there more reactions to Estimated Prophet on youtube? Strange.
Am pretty sure Chod would love that song!
Because the people making the requests don't really know what they're doing lol
That was live, very live
Thank you. I hope Chod reads these comments.
@@barbarascotto3873 I don't think he does. He's still talking about how the Dead need redemption from him. It's embarrassing.
@@Lchristyhastings I'd have to agree with you there. Like the Dead need redemption from ANYONE 🤣
@@barbarascotto3873 Exactly! Like the Dead need ANY redemption.
It's fine to not like their music. But respect the artists enough to know what you're reacting to, before you blindly trash them.
Saying the Dead should stick to the studio is like saying Freddy Mercury should stick to the studio, bc he falls apart on stage.
I doubt he'll ever get what the Dead do.
@@Lchristyhastings it's so true what Jerry said about the Dead being like licorice.
I'll tell you that as many times as I've seen the Dead - Scarlett >Fire was a jam I never got sick of. When they're all locked in during the transition jam to Fire there's something magical about it. I will also admit there times were it was sloppy. If you want to here pure fire listen to almost any weather report Suite from 73 or estimated prophet from Hartford 77.
You definitely need to do a follow-up where you listen to the end of this Scarlet, through the transition, and into Fire on the Mountain. Love your open-mindedness though, most people would give up on a band after all the other tracks you've heard. Lol
Edit: Here is the full Scarlet -> Fire on the Mountain
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Also a great performance of a song written in tribute to their dear friend Janice Joblin:
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Another great love performance, Terrapin Station. It's such a beautiful song.
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Hahahaha!!! That was the live stage!!
I love the Dead and don't even have one full studio album. Most Dead fans collect live shows, there are thounsands to pick from. Yeah some aren't great, but that what happens when you let people record every show. Most bands would not dare let people do that just because they want to control what gets out to the people. The Dead didn't care as long as they were having fun and their fans were digging it, that's all that mattered. BTW, this is a live track.
Good for you. I've got em all and I love em.
You just reacted to a song from arguably one of their greatest "live" performances. Check out some more off of the Cornell '77 show and you'll see why.
Sublime recorded a great version of this song on 40oz. to Freedom album. This version was live. There was just a lot of drugs in the band, sometimes they were great other times they would fall apart, but they usually pulled it together.
Yeah - they were improvisational (like jazz) and they worked without a net - so sometimes they fell down in the middle of their attempts at something great. And sometimes they produced a sweet sweet gem like the one you just heard (which was a live recording). I wish people would steer you to the gems like Cornell '77 instead of the clips that only a mother would love. I saw Jerry 28 times - I am a ~huge~ fan. But they lived dangerously on stage (like a good jazz band) and they fell on their face sometimes. Over the years there were a few drugs used as well, but the band has been playing shows from 1965 to present (in one form or another). Some of the Dead & Company shows from 2015 - present are spectacular! They are much more polished than the early Dead - and John Mayer is more consistently hot and polished while jumping through improvisational hoops than Jerry was (
Dude, can’t you hear the audience??? This is live from 5-8-77 !!!!
Id stick with the studio versions unless you're mid acid trip like the band definitely are during the shows lolol still love em tho ^-^
Sublime does an amazing cover of this song too btw. Def worth checking out.
Chod: check out Eyes of the World from the Wake Out to Find Out album which is live from the Nassau Coliseum on 3/29/90. Branford Marseilles has a solo in the middle of the song that will blow your socks off. I know there's a video of it on TH-cam. There is nothing better than live Dead.
This was LIVE, not studio, like you said. The Dead are the best. As I've said before, you need to do later Dead LIVE, late 80's and early, early 90's. Even a casual listener can dig those shows.
Chod, I am with you completely on Led Zeppelin and Yes, but I completely disagree with you on the Dead. They're all about playing live. I am thinking that maybe you just don't like the randomness of a live performance. Do yourself a favor and listen to some live versions of stuff by Yes and Led Zeppelin. You're going to find that it lacks in the studio discipline you seem to prefer.
True for Zep, but disagree on Yes. Their live performances are phenomenal. As Alan White once said, "There are a lot of notes in a Yes concert, and you have to play all of them." 😄
@@RoseNunezSmith just use Yessongs as an example. They are phenomenal live true but they aren't as tight strictly speaking and arrangements have to be altered for lack of dubbing, etc. My point isn't about the quality of a band live, it's about the spontaneity, good and bad, of live performances. I like a band that changes up the way they play stuff live, tempo, arrangements, etc.
@@paulprendergast3184 I get your point. But I'd still say on the sliding scale of "live looseness" the Dead are on the far, far loose end, and Yes are way over on the "tighter" side, and Zep somewhere between them.
Didn't Jimmy Page say something once about playing "tight but loose"? If not, he could have; that's how they struck me live.
Whereas I'd have a hard time calling Yes "loose," even though they're improvisational and not afraid of jamming. The outro of Starship Trooper at any of their shows is usually a great extended jam. Still dialed in and tight as hell, though.
I hope you read the comments my guy lmao. This whole show is on point. And I could recommend live versions of all the songs you don't like that I guarantee will redeem them.
Well, this is live Greatful Dead. When I was in my twenties or early thirties the Dead wasn't my cup of tea. Once I got to Forty they started to grow on me. Take a moment and look at their body of work. Maybe the JGB would be a place to start? Perhaps it's me..but I love the off playing.
The reason is because they had no set list on purpose! They jammed until they agreed on what song to play next! That was the fun of it!
If you want Dead studio albums start with American Beauty and Workingman's Dead. That's cool acoustic folk tunes you don't hear much in live shows. Aoxomoxoa and Anthem of the Sun are wild and experimental, give St Stephen a listen.
Peace
Someone was having a rib with you. This is most definitely live,probably the most listened to Dead show ever as the tapes of this show have been copied and passed around and copied again millions of times over. The entire Barton Hall show from 5/8/77 is actually part of the National Recording Registry at the Library of Congress for it's cultural impact (and,IMO,excellence).
This particular show (Barton Hall 1977) if i'm not mistaken has been enshrined in the Library of Congress....this song goes into Fire On the Mountain....
over 2,300 live shows. most of them taped. while other bands where saying "no taping or photography", they set up a special section for tapers. "falling apart" is the good stuff.
europe '72 (so clean it sounds like studio).. any of the many cornell shows. 72-77 (live) is the sweet spot. the live versions probably do sound better after the albums.
"american beauty" and "workingman's dead" are great studio albums to start with.
Should’ve gone ahead and listened to the next one.... 🔥 ⛰ ❤️ ⚡️ 💙
....THIS IS LIVE... this is from the famous Cornell concert of 5/8/77. You don't have to like the dead live (obviously), but you're honestly embarrassing yourself by putting such harsh generalizations based on like 2 bad live performances. I think you should listen a little more before you put down such definitive statements. Listen to 9/3/77 Mississippi half-step, 2/23/74 here comes sunshine or 4/24/78 music never stopped and i think you'll see how laughably wrong your assessment of their live performances are.
If you don't like those than the deads probably just not your thing, but AT MINIMUM, i think you'll at least respect them or form some sort of appreciation for the band.
Nobody mentions the
Drummer/percussion team.
The Rhythm Devil's...
Who worked on the Apocalypse Now soundtrack...
He only criticizes them.
Lol, you can hear the crowd... Cornell '77
maybe Chod is secretly a Deadhead and is trolling us. ::listens to lackluster versions of classic dead tunes:: "this band sucks live!" then watches us all go crazy.
No band plays for 30 years without some mistakes. They have great live shows. It honestly pisses me off cause people aren’t pointing you in the right directions. Try the music never stopped from dicks picks volume 3. It won’t disappoint
Props for catching the line in this song. One of my favorite dead quotes ☺️
It's so sad seeing someone who clearly likes good music being misled by random people and having his vision clouded about one of the best rock bands of all-time.
@@nealpierson9072 exactly. I wish people would stop recommending radio dead n send some of the greats. Dicks picks volume 3, 6 n 8 would be great starts. A 70, 77, n 83 show. All fire!!
And most bands don't let people record every show and put it out to the masses. Of course there will be some bad ones out there, usually it's due to poor quality recording, but sometimes they do really screw up a song. I have a few recordings where they just stopped and started the song over.
Avg annual repertoire of GD was 200+ tunes. Lifetime over 500 tunes played. Greatest live touring band in history of music. Admired even by their haters. Cummon man....get informed if youre gonna review this stuff.
Chod, this is from a LIVE album.
The fact that you can’t distinguish live recordings and studio tracking is quite sad
You say messy. We say brave. These men never had a set list. These men never played the same song twice the same way live. An aggressively deliberate improvisational band.
Jerry said himself “Grateful Dead is like black licorice. You either really like it or you really hate it”. Either way that was fine with them.
Best Dead songs:
Cold Rain and Snow (studio version only)
Box of Rain
Friend of the Devil
High Time
Dire Wolf
Best Long Jams:
Dark Star
Pretty much everything from before 1970
Cold Rain & Snow is a great live song though.
Alo Ha New Friend...thank you for getting me to look deeply into the definition of the word,"tempo"..i didnt know there was so much in that part of music theory i didnt know yet...from my little experience with all the back grounds from the band members, maybe especially the jazz history part, it could be a bit moody on any given day/night and still is....it has never been staged,well, in this finite stage yes?....before i became a dead head in 83, i grew up with Michael Jackson being my music hero before Jerry took over..i still wish i could ask Michael what he meant in " they don't really care about us"?...i think i might get it looking around at the show....maybe the reaching out welcoming part a bit not what i hope for yet....check out this music theory stuff about Jackson they i never knew...bless bless ---IF THE LINK DONT WORK ITS A TH-cam VIDEO CALLED, HOW MICHAEL JACKSON CRAFTED HIS FIRST SOLO HIT-----th-cam.com/video/A3nKAvIc8to/w-d-xo.html
Little late to this but here is my two cents. Redeem themselves, now that is funny, they have millions of fans and were a culture phenomena, thousands followed them all over the world show after show people who have seen them live 100's of times, their concerts were not just about the music but about a way of life you cannot talk about the 60's and the 70's music without mentioning them. Their music embodied the 60's counter culture, make love, not war!
This is Cornell '77, maybe you should take it back a couple steps and toss on some from the '72 Era, may I suggest the Rocking the Rein live album
Depends on the show....this is live!
Touch of Grey is my favorite Dead song!
The Scarlet>Fire from Cornell '77 should clear things up for you.
That WAS Cornell. I think he needs to hear the entire concert to appreciate what they doing.
@@Lchristyhastings You're right. I commented before he got into it.
Dude is ignorant to collective improvisation and he makes sweeping assumptions based on small sample size
Live as only the Dead can be...
Dude if you like this one you should check out two of the best Brent organ playing videos, He's Gone and Blow Away. Absolutely some of the best. Just to see the chemistry between Jerry and Brent is well worth a watch!
i have so much to say about the dead----in their defense, and about their shortcomings, theyre a very odd, albeit highly unique band in american history----bob dylan LOVED them, especially jerry garcia (the toured as dylan's backing band in 1987, dylan even left the house in 1995, for the much media-covered spectacle that was jerry garcia's funeral [bob steadfastly avoids such things])----anyway, the had 2 drummers from about 1969 onward.....i, personally, tend to prefer them with one drummer, which was roughly the period from 1965 to 1968, the were much more focused, and compact i think....but, they had a "family" type of attitude and view of their circle, and didnt want exclude mickey hart (i think, i dont know)...there were times in the 80's when garcia would get pissed about there being 2 drummers, and hed say "i cant play with that fucking popcorn machine behind me anymore"-----anyway, that being said, when it all worked, it worked great, and they definitely had a unique vibe, and sound, and mood, and atmosphere------i, agian, just personally prefer them w/ one drummer, their first album, from 1967 is just fire, super uptempo bangers, fuled by being on speed,,and probably acid, its really spectacular, ive turned quite a few non-believers onto them by letting them hear the live shows (in small clubs, with MUCH better sound quality), from the early days (1965, and 1966) its ALL VERY early tight, 60's type rock songs, and at the same time VERY blues heavy, thanks to ron "pigpen" mckernan who was their early frontman, and organ/keys player (he was an alcoholic, and usually the only one not tripping on LSD, so he was kinda the one they turned to when all the others were gakked out of their minds, and pigpen would lead them out of the woods (musically), he was an amazingly soulful blues singer (these are all more reasons why getting people into early grateful dead is easier than the later period stuff)----anyway, pigpen died in 1972 of liver disease at 27 years old, and jerry always maintained that the true grateful dead died with him----that being said, their studio stiff is fantastic, and kind of a must to understand them live, without it, u can get kind of lost. most deadheads dont much give a crap about the studio stuff (not all of them, but significantl percentage....most of them are just the "party people" types tho, who cared as much about the drugs as the music anyway...which, bob weir, these days, renounces, he has for a long, long time)-----anyway, i ramble-----theyre an american oddity/phenomenon, but theyre also an acquired taste----theyre spectacular musicians, but the "2 drummers" thing would be hard for a lot of bands to pull off 100% of the time.....if u want to try to approach them the best way is with thr first albums (from 1967 to 1970: debut, anthem of the sun, working man's dead, and american beauty) and theres quite a few (single drummer) early shows from 1965, and 1966, with good sound, that are SUPER interesting-----from there, u kinda get a feel for them, and u can move further down the rabbit hole to the later albums----but i would COMPLETELY avoid live stuff from the 70's and 80's without the proper studio version introductions...once u get those, they kinda grow on u, and the shows are more understandable------jeez, theyre just such a bunch of lovable kooks, i didnt much like them at first either, they have a way of winning u over, they creep up on u....garcia was very interesting in that one of his heroes was jazz guitarist wes montgumery.....not that it has a lot to do with wes as far as i know, but garcia' s "soloing" style on guitar, was derived from "listening to the jazz horn players for phrasing", he took that approach when playing, and was very/pretty unique in that way---jerrynwas a hell of a thing, the true genius/icon of the group, and his solo band Jerry Garcia Band is amazing by pretty much any musician's standards----i pretty much like jerry garcia band more than the dead, not that i dont like, or to take anything away from the dead. the dead, i just like JG Band more
This was a live performance!
Not sure what “live versions” you’ve heard, but they’re clearly the wrong ones. And this IS a live version. ✌️❤️🎶
the ability to read Begonia.
sounds like the Cornell '77 performance to me
This song was recorded live
They "fall apart" like Coltrane... you just don't have the experience to appreciate it yet...
Live versions are nowhere near as good as this Cornell 77 studio cut. 🤣
😁
Bro the grateful dead didn't even like to be in the studio but bro any band will have a bad show and they toured for years at a time you need to find more live shows seriously
PHIL DROPPING BOMBS!!
So they are the largest grossing act in music history. The overwhelming criticism of them has been that their studio music is awful but their live act phenomenal. Not sure what live stuff you were listening to but look up anything from cornel '77.
This song was written about Janis Joplen
No, that was Birdsong.
I'm glad you give other chances. I want to post a link on who I want you to give another chance to, but TH-cam sometimes doesn't like links. I will try messaging you on patreon.
it is live...
Nice!
Love me a Prankster .
Good one 😄😄😄
they band was close friends of mary jane aka wakky weed
also very good pals with Alice D. Millionaire
It’s the drugs and alcohol!!!
Bro for REAL check out the "Live Albums Collection" on Spotify. All top notch live performances. 83 tracks that will convince you of the Dead's live greatness. You've been served some bad performances. Where do you take requests? I'll send you some winners.
Who are the Grateful Dead and why do they keep following me. There everywhere man.
The GD are not for everyone. You either like them or you don't. You can't judge them by the standards of other musical acts as they are their own entity. They go on an adventure every time they go onstage and sometimes those adventures end up with missteps and sometimes they reach the mountain tops. They have never promised anything more or less. If you want a stage rendition of a studio version this is not the band for you.
as stated in previous comments, This WAS live... but The Dead ... you either loved them or they were just ok. I enjoyed them but I wasn't a Deadhead.
Find any band in history that doesn't have a bad live show . You can't
That was live
Improv buddy. Live shows were never the same. Ever. You need to burn a few and go on a binge till it changes your soul.