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Just another crime for Redd White's list: Battery, when Phoenix goes to his office to try and get information out of him, he hits Phoenix as a way of showing him that he can't do anything to him due to the fact that he has a lot of judicial figures under his control.
Which would land him at least another 6 months and a 1K fine to his sentence, making his sentence a minimum of: "life sentence + 6 years and 4.5K in fines
Not only that, but his blackmailing of Grossberg too. I know he said he wouldn't count stuff that happens before the game, but the blackmailing of Grossberg is actually ongoing into the case (Grossberg doesn't defend Maya because of Redd White's blackmail) and also important to the story of the case, so I think it deserves to be included.
In fairness, prosecutors have very, very broad discretion when it comes to filing perjury charges, and rarely if ever do so--particularly in cases where someone lied on the stand while the defendant, since being convicted pretty much implies that any account you gave denying culpability was inherently a lie.
32:59; caption turned “blackmails” into “black males”. Only funny given it’s Redd White, and we get three colors in a row as a result. 33:46 is the aforementioned WAP sheet. Not going to try to find more fun captions.
All of the charges against these characters were dropped when they managed to find a Borginian boy to blame all the crimes on in spite of being physically unable to commit any of them. It's the Japanafornian way!
Or maybe West Bulginia - Bulgaria + West Virginia. Japan nabbed California, might as well have the other states co-opted by other countries. Except Britain, because they already lost that fight.
Thank god I was not the only person who didn't like the treatment of the defendant in that case. It felt off and weirdly... ablist? Also just burn Berry big Circus to the ground. Everyone in there sucks other than Regina
@@darthgamer9861I at least understand that opinion. Don’t exactly despise either case, but Big Top seems fine and even fun at times, while I can definitely feel the weakness in Serenade.
"There's a specific subsection in the chapter on assault and battery that speaks to assaults done with the use of a stun gun" I mean damn I guess they're covering their bases alright
I hope this takes off because I need the Ron Delite trial analysed, I need big top taken apart, I need the Dahlia sentence, I wanna see how Prij does ghost crime so bad 🤩
Yeah. Sadly Ron DeLite is going away for multiple counts of burglary / theft / larceny (not sure which one is the correct charge but Prij will). Double Jeopardy doesn’t protect him from all his thefts
I mean we could extrapolate that spiritual (or demonic) possession would exculpate someone of a crime according to CA Penal Code §.26 as seen at 30:50, due to them not being conscious thereof, thus falling under the fourth listed class of persons non-liable to be punished for a crime. Honestly, that part could be used for a lot of other characters in fiction. Sephiroth could fall under that if you believe in the fanon idea of him being mind controlled and being used as a puppet by JENOVA ever since the Nibelheim Incident.
Frank Sawhit does come back in a later game, but he is still serving his sentence, as that case takes place in prison. Granted, it seems implied that he might get out at some point, but maybe he's hoping to get parole.
Yeah, I believe the implication is that Frank's participation in the vocational program is specifically with the goal of getting parole sooner (although they never say the word "parole"). Also, he gets his sentence extended by " a few years", so he presumably doesn't have a life sentence. Or at least, his opportunity for parole has been delayed.
@@jeannebouwman1970 It’d be voluntary manslaughter. He didn’t mean to kill, but he did the actions. 2nd degree murder would be him trying to kill her because of in the moment. But he (presumably) just got scared and swung.
@@9k49 But honestly, who would get a bigger sentence? Franziska with her whipping defence lawyers, prosecutors, judges and witnesses (where there's thought behind each swing, as the only female character she ever whipped was Lotta) or Blackquil, who not counting Taka's attacks is still assaulting the defence lawyers, and even after having his shackles removed proceeds to assault Fulbright?
I think it has to do with Jake being recorded in the locker room tampering with evidence while Angel wasn’t caught. Jake was also an active police officer (granted he was a security guard in the evidence room but still a cop) when tampering with evidence Angel was retired from active duty. Angel merely misled the court with her testimony but it was mostly to gain attention and credibility as a witness. At least thats the way I see it. Also let’s not forget that he attack Officer Meekins and managed to cut him so possibly attempted murder?
I think the only thing you can charge Angel with is perjury. As she provided the evidence she collected to the police, it was filed and properly (within established procedure in the game world), even tampering with a crime scene would be shaky.
One thing to consider about Von Karma's stun gun charge is that Maya is 16, and therefore the assault and battery charge is assault and battery of a minor depending on how California law defines a minor in these cases, which would probably mean a longer sentence.
29:13 iirc in the game it's stated that May told the bellboy ahead of time to bring coffee at 9 so he would be a witness to her being in the suite and not Fey and Co., which combined with the calm, matter of fact way White speak to Mia implies, to me at least, that they had planned to kill Mia. Edit: also the fact that they knew Mia was going to be in the office at the time because they listened to her call with Maya. If White's intent was just to steal the papers then all he had to do was wait a bit longer.
The first can be explained as being establishing an alibi for the break-in, so doesn't rise to establishing intent to commit murder I think, but the latter point could indeed be more damning. I do still think reasonable doubt remains. For instance, maybe they heard the phone call, knew they had to get the papers quickly because Mia was going to give them to Maya, and 9PM was the first opportunity they had to get it, and they were hoping to be out before Mia returned.
He wouldn't be able to wait, since Mia was going to give the evidence he wanted to Maya for safekeeping that night. Also framing Maya was also premeditated, since he placed the note with her name in Mia's blood...
Idk why but Phoenix pursuing a job as a TH-cam video essayist kind of makes sense in a weird way. He was doing an art degree while he was studying law, and even as far as Apollo Justice he still tunes into Steel Samurai, so something in creative media would suit him
One thing worth noting: Real World California does not use the death penalty, as you stated. But Dahlia Hawthorne, Terry Fawles, Simon Blackquill, and Joe Darke are all explicitly stated to have been given the death penalty for their crimes (or alleged crimes). So Japanifornia uses it.
@@thatonerisottosimp6791(Spoilers I guess) He doesn't, he gets acquitted for Metis Cykes' murder after final case of Dual Destinies and is freed from prison
Your ace attorney with an actual lawyer series was one of the things that inspired me to finally pursue my interest in law, and I've started studying to get a paralegal certificate! Trying to figure out what fictional characters could be charged with legally has been something I've done to help practice making use of my knowledge, so this video has been a wonderful full circle for me. Would love to see more of these in the future! :D
Prij, i do have one point to bring up--a *lot* of the lesser criminals in this would probably be given concurrent sentences instead of consecutive, simply on the grounds that their crimes were minor enough as to not require separate prison time. For example, it'd be hard to argue that Lana Skye poses enough of a direct threat to the public as to require keeping her in prison as long as possible, so I suspect that her sentences would be set concurrent to one another. Additionally, I suspect that a good defense attorney would be able to make a solid argument that Lana's actions to cover up Bruce Goodman's murder were under duress, on the grounds that she knew exactly what Damon Gant was willing to do to prevent the truth of SL-9 from coming out--i.e., she knew that he killed Goodman to keep him silent, and had a reasonable expectation that he would have been willing to kill her if she refused to help cover up that murder. Guaranteed defense? No, but a good chance of it working. On another note, shouldn't Cody Hackins be facing some time for his regular B&E of the Global Studios lot? Or at least a slap on the wrist as a youthful offender...
prij did clarify that the sentences aren't absolute, he's probably giving sentences purely based on what the laws are telling him. if the prosecutor was very good, they'd probably get heavier sentences as well
T&T Spoilers Assuming Lana wasn't sentenced for anything else, she'd be released about the same time that Godot is found guilty in 3-5. This implies that the universe needs at least one of Mia Fey's lovers imprisoned at any given time.
This was awesome! Very different from a lot of the other 'real lawyer' interactions with Ace Attorney that I'm honestly not very interested in. A really great way to deploy knowledge regarding the particulars of a legal system that feels entertaining while still engaging with the text.
Even though Prij doesnt agree, it could come out during April's trial that Redd White did in fact blackmail her into helping, like he does with everyone Prij only didnt agree cause PW doesnt seem to say otherwise, so in my opinion, April was absolutely acting under duress, and thats going to reduce her sentence(s). Plus, i have a feeling that getting Redd White convicted is so important (as he's a powerful figure) that the prosecution would probably offer April a reduced sentence or drop a few of her charges in exchange for testifying against him later. As the secretary of Bluecorp, getting her to flip would massively screw Redd White over in his trial.
I’m kinda surprised that being an accessory to a crime that didn’t happen is a defense, while you can be charged for actually murdering someone if you attempt murder without actually succeeding.
I genuinely love detailed explanations and breakdowns so this was very enjoyable. I hope to see more in the future! Also the recreation of SL-9 just about killed me
I've seen content like this before, but this is by far the best that I've ever seen. The level of depth and editing that went into it is incredible. One of the only minor complaints I can make is that there are arguably some crimes that were missed. It's understandable since they are pretty minor or argueable for the most part, but I still want to name some I thought of here: Larry never paid Phoenix for defending him. Redd White stealing the papers from The Thinker could be considered stealing evidence in the same sense of Von Karma stealing DL-6 files. Phoenix Wright definitely broke some laws during investigation (such as trespassing and stealing evidence without a warrant) and some of the people with Phoenix could be a principal to these crimes. Even though we can't accurately judge Redd White's history of blackmail, we can see some of it through his extortion of Grossberg and how he used Grossberg selling out Misty Fey to get his painting and prevent him from defending Maya. Also, Grossberg selling out Misty could be a crime to itself. Redd White also clearly commited assault and battery when he punched phoenix. Cody Hackins snuck into Global Studios, a privately owned movie studio, on multiple occasions. I'd say Sal Manella was sexually harassing Maya Fey (a minor). Dee Vasquez was definitely using the Mafia to threaten Phoenix's and Maya's lives and it can even be argued to be first degree attempted murder as they might have died if Gumshoe didn't intervene. Lotta Heart was clearly breaking a law when she camped next to a no camping sign. Yanni Yogi fled from the courtroom witgout express permission. Don't know if this is illegal, but it could be. Gumshoe's pay being cut by prosecutors. Prosecutors like Edgeworth and Von Karma aren't allowed to do that. Also, based on Gumshoe's $5 annual bonus and how he describes his living situation, Gumshoe is probably underpaid. Again, this isn't much of a complaint as this video is overall phenomenal and very well made, but I just felt it was worth saying. However, if you want to, you could add an addendum to the start or end of the next video in this series clarifying these things to be more thorough. Again, you don't have to as it's your video, but I think it's a good idea. Overall, this is an interesting idea for a series that is executed excellently so far.
This is mostly focusing on the culprits and the associates/those who truly committed crimes (looking at Jack Hammer, Joe Darke and Jake Marshall for the latter.)
If we wanted to sentence anyone for being principle to Phoenix stealing evidence/tampering with a crime scene, then Maya would be behind bars a long time ago😂😂
Had to leave the premiere for an appointment, so I just finished, but this was a banger essay, good job Prij and everyone who helped!! I have a couple people I’m going to throw this link at bc I would LOVE a video like this for JFA and T&T (well, ideally a video for every game but that’s definitely a huge ask!)
Prij is speaking a bit timidly as he reads from the script, but boy do I appreciate his dedication to this video concept! This is amazing! There's some room to cut down on repeating info previously established, but I'm so glad you covered the less open and shut crimes and just how up in the air it is on whether they'd be found guilty. I would love to see more of this!
Well it’s only including people from the first game, and Prij makes clear early some exceptions he’s making. 😅 but I can guarantee there are people that are not included in the thumbnail!
It's a shame Sal could only at most get 6 months in jail, but other than that, this essay is awesome! It was really interesting learning all these legal terms and technicalities. Prij and everyone did a great job, and I'd love to see these for the other games.
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp because Sal is a freak and a creep? Nowhere near Director Hotti levels but still uncomfortable. (Also, obligatory Ace Attorney character simping over minors)
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimpif that is crazy, then lock me up in asylum. Sal doesnt deserve to walk around kids and/or produce any type of media related to them.
@@derekstryder2281 so you just send people you don't like to jail? All he did is help Dee vasques, which is a crime, but he had no other choice, she literally has mafia on her side. Otherwise he just gets bullied for nothing. As well as director hotti. Being not likeable is not a crime
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@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimpharassment and impersonating doctors is, however.
TH-cam algorithm doing the Lord's work here and bringing me to this fascinating video. I find it WILD that Sahwit gets straight up life in prison according to CPC. Hope to see the remaining games done like this, your efforts really show with this.
i absolutely ADORED this video!!! i’ve been yearning for a thorough prij-analysis like this & it’s clear how much care went into it. would love to see more breakdowns for the rest of the trilogy/series! (also, prij’s sprites are SO CUTE & well made!!!)
I will support this video as much as I can to support as many follow-ups as possible!^^ Not just because I am curious about the sentences and legal terms in the other games, but also because this was a very entertaining and informative video of high quality we need more of on this website! Thank you very much!^^
As an editor, I started using other colors than yellow after it was like 90% done😅 and I liked it way more. Assuming we do a follow up, I will probably use the pink/purple for more
@SaveDataTeam I'd say keep the seafoam green too! Looks great and contrasts nicely with the pink and purple when there were 3 highlighted sections! I may be bias, though, it's like my favorite color lol
I don't usually leave comments on TH-cam videos, but I just HAVE to for this one, I NEED the TH-cam algorithm to promote this. I can hardly imagine the hours put into this, and I can feel the dedication put into this video! I'm excited to see what you'd have to say about some of the other criminals in the series, especially one memorable dead red head. This video also was a great reminder to get back into your series as well, as I found it earlier this year and was enjoying it. I've still got a long way to go (I'm on case 2-3, tragic bc it's big top, ik), but I love going through it! Plus, I can't recall any TH-camrs I watch going through the rest of the series post og trilogy, which makes me happy because Duel Destinies is one of my favorite games in the series! P.S. (Grabs comedically large microphone) FREE MY BOY ROB ERRMAN HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING
Also, second comment, but there was actually a case in Virginia where a patrol officer was arrested for impersonating a detective, and was charged with 'impersonating an officer.' He apparently did this to intimidate people into giving him access to personal files. I'm unsure on the differences between Virginia and California law in this regard, but it feels like it'd mean Jake Marshall's case would count as impersonating an officer, too.
Incredibly thorough, and also digestible for laypeople! I have no knowledge of laws/the justice system, you do a great job breaking it down. I really love seeing experts who are effective at communicating!
I remember hearing about Prij working in a lengthy video essay a while ago and im so glad it’s here now! Props to Prij this must have taken sooo much work
Shoutouts to everyone involved. This was an amazing video. Fun, informative and well put together in all fronts. Also WTF is that Sahwit vs Redd White meme, Zak you're wild for that one.
Oh my god I have got to see more of these! I would LOVE to know if Dr.Hotti (purported) is commiting a crime pretending to be a docter to steal patients drivers liscensess and be creepy
i think it's safe to assume that in the dark dystopian future of Ace Attorney that perjury just isn't a crime there, with how many other absurdities there are in these games it would make sense that perjury wouldn't exist as a crime there
Either that, or you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were maliciously lying with intent to cover something up, instead of just misremembering something or trying to piece together a narrative from incomplete information.
This was awesome. I would love to see this continue! For a note about Perjury, it is actually addressed, but not in the trilogy, that I remember. The Great Ace Attorney 1 has perjury as a major plot point for the final case. So it does exist in some capacity in the AA universe, but probably Japanifornia has more lenient laws about it than England
that was awesome, here's your well deserved acknowledgement. I enjoyed this so hard. loved it 10/10. i want videos for every single game in the series, INCLUDING great ace attorney chronicles (even if you choose to prosecute the characters based on modern cali law.) ♥♥♥♥♥♥ this video feeds me
Fantastic video! I'm a bit of a law nerd - in the specific sense of I find reading legalese and hearing law be talked about fun, but would never go to law school - so this whole video was a delight. I'd actually be really interested to see if you would convict any of the 'heroes' of anything. We already know (and disregard for the sake of stylistic/gameplay absurdity) that Phoenix absolutely tampers with crime scenes and Franziska and Godot would be held in contempt of court for assaulting the defense, but what would you make of, say, Edgeworth's crimes? It seems that he very knowingly used false evidence to convict innocents to life imprisonment (or possibly death). The possible faking of his death (I have my reasons to believe that it was a genuine-and-failed su1cide attempt). Then there's also Phoenix's crimes (concealing + falsifying evidence) in Apollo Justice. There are likely others I'm not thinking of right now, but you get the gist.
Very knowingly? Rise from the Ashes establishes that despite the rumors surrounding the demon prosecutor, Edgeworth wasn't aware of the forged evidence he used. That in the one proven case where he used false evidence, the fault was with Damon Gant and Lana Skye. Its typically not illegal to fake your own death. The illegal part comes from acts taking advantage of your false death like defrauding life insurance. What it means to conceal evidence sounds like a headache thanks to California laws being very different from generalized Japanese laws. And falsifying evidence would fall under the general umbrella of tampering with evidence. So it likely wouldn't be treated any different than Phoenix messing with crime scenes. At least in California.
I think it's implied that Edgeworth did not know that any of the evidence was faked-he may have willfully ignored signs/chosen not to probe deeper, but he's genuinely shocked to find out that he presented false evidence in 1-5. He was probably knowingly stretching/playing dirty, but from what we know of his character, I don't believe he'd purposely do anything that would constitute actual falsification. At least the way I interpret it, he's truly convinced, for the first part of his career, that everyone on the stand is/*must* be guilty, and his duty is to make sure that truth comes to light-but he actually believes that it _is_ the truth, due to his, erm. personal neuroses. He does have a (very strong) personal code, it's just been warped by von Karma and the weight of his own guilt, which he projects onto every defendant placed in front of him. I think the retroactive realization that he's been complicit in convicting innocents through negligence is a big part of what influences his...further decisions that may or may not warrant criminal charges.
I mean as far as we know in "faking his own death" Edgeworth just left an ambiguously worded note & then left the country. None of which is illegal. Actually I believe he was working abroad? Like tracking down DeKiller & stuff. So he definitely wasn't declared legally dead or anything.
I actually learned so much from this video; I never realized there was a difference between manslaughter and murder. I’d love to see this be a continued series!!
1:04:47 this exactly, the second you have time to think “I could get away with this,” anything that happens from that point onward can be considered pre-meditated if it’s in service of committing the act or covering it up
Amazing video, props to Prij (and Jason) for the writing and to Zak (and Karl) for the edits. Hopefully we can get more of these! Maybe a yearly event? Also thanks Zak, Prij and Wes for the great letsplay of the AA games, I never miss it!
20:42 Bassically Edgeworth investigates a crime that took place in a prison and Frank was a witness. Bassically it's just the writers making a reference
This video taught me so much! At first I was worried all the readings from the penal code would be boring - but you explain things so well after the initial quote. To the point, I was understanding the direct reading a lot more as the video went on as i learned from previous explanations. Today I learned about assault vs battery and how battery charges in this system include assault by default! I learned about kinds of manslaughter, larceny, burglary/robbery and extortion charges. That is all to say - PLEASE MAKE MORE!!!
I'd love to hear what Prij thinks of Mr. Spoiler's 10-year sentence at the end of Ghost Trick. I guess that game takes place in a fictional country so it's harder to know which laws to use but it's been a subject of debate in the fandom (whether it's too short or too long a sentence) for the 8 years I've been in it.
I mean, we played the game with Prij, I can't remember what he said at the end, but I vaguely remember being surprised at the sentence given the many crimes lol
@@SaveDataTeamHuh, were there that many? Spoilers: If i remember right, his crimes would be: -Escaping police custody (unclear whether he was properly detained, as they were just taking his statement.) -Stealing a firearm -Taking a hostage (though we never actually see him point the gun at the hostage, only at the officer chasing him) Yeah those sound heavy, but Cabanela and Jowd admit themselves that their actions may have caused Duress. Such as firing a warning shot and making him think his life will be ruined. Also at the end he ended up saving his hostage from death, which even resulted in serious injuries, which a good lawyer could use to lighten the sentence. But i don't know
Looking forward to seeing the next part. Would also be interested in seeing this format applied to other franchises like the Somnium Files or Danganronpa. Yknow, if you guys ever ended up playing that
This was interesting to watch and I appreciate the detail you went into! Definitely don't mind the length as it's great to put on while doing another activity. If you make more, I look forward to them!
Jokes aside, someone should probably get rid of that fence given that's indirectly responsible for 2 deaths. Even if people weren't acting or quarrelling by it, it's still feasible that someone could trip walking in or out of the trailer and end up skewed on the fence. That things is a major safety hazard.
Yeah, they clearly should have gotten rid of it immediately after (if not before, just seeing the thing should have made people realise that it wasn't a good idea) the first person died.
Is okay, take your time, I really enjoyed this I waited a lot for an analisis of what punishment criminal would get in ace attorney I would love to see the next two games, but dont push yourself!! Really liked the video, great work!!!
My obsession with Ace Attorney came back and I decided to play this trilogy again. TH-cam fortunately recommended me this video, and I liked it so much I started binge watching your playthrough from the beginning! I love your playthrough so much, they are so funny and bring me so much joy! I also loved this video a lot, it was very interesting and informative, and it's obvious it took a lot of work from researching to editing, so thank you so much for it!! I hope you post another video for JFA, it would be just as amazing!
Thanks so much for the kind words and I’m glad you’re enjoying the playthrough! We're def gonna do a follow up to this,, it might take till the second half of next year but we're on it!😅
This was so fun + educational! As an undergrad student aiming to go to law school after I graduate I love learning about stuff like this, especially since it's Prij presenting! Loved this, thanks for the lesson!
This was absolutely interesting to watch and a concept I have yet to see from other content creators. I really hope we do get more of these though I do understand that these take work so take all the time yall need. Wonderful job by Prij finally getting to flex his legal muscle instead of just yelling at the games for all the crimes pretty much every character does and nobody seems to care about 😂
This was genuinely a super cool video and was a great way to spend the evening! Would love to see you go through the rest of the games, or maybe branching out to other mystery/detective games? Either way, great stuff!
Incredibly fun to see how punishments vary between seemingly equally egregious offenses. Can’t wait for this breakdown for the other trilogy games if it’s planned!
This was sooo engaging! Videos like this make me reconsider studying law (for 2 seconds lol). Bravo to the team for this banger! For case 1-3, I wonder what the civil suit could look like against the studio for the cover ups + gross negligence with having such a dangerous work environment (OSHA wya???)
I'm kinda surprised he didn't talk about the stuff Phoenix does. There's a few examples but the biggest one is Phoenix finding, and taking the wiretap. As Phoenix Trespasses into her hotel room while she was showering. Then practically steals the wiretap from one of the drawers.
I wonder if the sentence is worse if Phoenix is considered a civilian breaking in, OR if Phoenix is considered and "investigator" entering without a warrant. Just something to think about
I'm no expert in law. But I think Phoenix is considered a civilian while he goes into April May's room. As he has no warrant and was not let in by the occupant and hotel rooms are considered private property. Which, would lead to at least get Phoenix a tresspassing charge. I don't think it would change May's verdict or punishment. But it would spell fines for Phoenix at best. Or at worse get himself disbarred from practicing law. Edit: If I'm wrong and Prij, sees this. He'll probably correct me
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Nice.
I honestly thought Lana's sentencing would be harsher.
Personally would’ve put Sal in jail for life because he’s a creep but I suppose being a creep isn’t a crime :_(
Genuinely shocked that being a victim of extortion doesn’t constitute duress.
I would love a video in this style for The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles! I wanna hear about different early 20th century English laws 😌
"Malicious mischief" is a funny term to come across in a legal context. It's like finding out you're in violation of the Shenanigans Statute.
First Degree Shaboingery
I’ll have you know that violating the Shenanigans Statute is no laughing matter.
I will have you know Tomfoolery during a trial will not be tolerated
your honor my client pleads oopsie daisies
To the charge of wire fraud, you are pleading "Nuh uh."
Just another crime for Redd White's list: Battery, when Phoenix goes to his office to try and get information out of him, he hits Phoenix as a way of showing him that he can't do anything to him due to the fact that he has a lot of judicial figures under his control.
Which would land him at least another 6 months and a 1K fine to his sentence, making his sentence a minimum of: "life sentence + 6 years and 4.5K in fines
not to forget, if i remember correctly, a second case of robbery by taking some form of evidence from phoenix as well
i dont think phoenix could proof that in court tho
Not only that, but his blackmailing of Grossberg too. I know he said he wouldn't count stuff that happens before the game, but the blackmailing of Grossberg is actually ongoing into the case (Grossberg doesn't defend Maya because of Redd White's blackmail) and also important to the story of the case, so I think it deserves to be included.
There's no concrete proof that White did punch Phoenix (he did, but not to the point Phoenix was bruised). So that one wouldn't work.
This is just prij going on a tanget to remind us "Oh yeah! HE'S the real lawyer they keep talking about!"
I feel like it’s more of a “Oh wait, he’s a lawyer?”
Glad we cleared that up
If he’s a lawyer where’s his badge!?
it’s kinda like a reminder that he is an actual lawyer and not just pretending to be one for the bit
@@Skullhawk13 lawyers in most countries dont have badges (for anyone who doesn't know)
I love that Prij immediately addresses Perjury because just about everyone does it 😂
In fairness, prosecutors have very, very broad discretion when it comes to filing perjury charges, and rarely if ever do so--particularly in cases where someone lied on the stand while the defendant, since being convicted pretty much implies that any account you gave denying culpability was inherently a lie.
Everyone but Spark Brushel, I think
@@herosmith5662 even then Klaiver was like “yo dude your story kinda sucks you maybe wanna commit perjury for me“ and still he was like “nah bro”
I headcanon that perjury isn't illegal in the AA universe lol
And I love that they even include the clip where Wright tries to cause perjury by signaling for a lie.
I need to permanently record that the autosubtitles wrote "Redd White's rap sheet" as "red white's WAP sheet"
I will NEVER correct this 😂
WET ASS PIGEON
@@SaveDataTeamGRAB A LIGHTSTAND AND A CLOCK THATS SOME *W* IRETAPPING *A* ND *P* ERJURY
it actually says "red Whit's WAP sheet". or at least, it does for me. which is still equally hilarious.
32:59; caption turned “blackmails” into “black males”. Only funny given it’s Redd White, and we get three colors in a row as a result.
33:46 is the aforementioned WAP sheet. Not going to try to find more fun captions.
All of the charges against these characters were dropped when they managed to find a Borginian boy to blame all the crimes on in spite of being physically unable to commit any of them. It's the Japanafornian way!
Or maybe West Bulginia - Bulgaria + West Virginia. Japan nabbed California, might as well have the other states co-opted by other countries. Except Britain, because they already lost that fight.
Turnabout Serenade will never not infuriate me, forget turnabout bigtop, serenade is the worst case by a country mile.
I dunno, depends if you think blaming a crime on a foreign child who couldn't have committed it is worse than the pedophile love triangle.
Thank god I was not the only person who didn't like the treatment of the defendant in that case. It felt off and weirdly... ablist?
Also just burn Berry big Circus to the ground. Everyone in there sucks other than Regina
@@darthgamer9861I at least understand that opinion. Don’t exactly despise either case, but Big Top seems fine and even fun at times, while I can definitely feel the weakness in Serenade.
I like how Sal Manella was put next to Redd White, and White’s looking at him like “Please, please just stop, God”
Not even he deserves such a fate.
You are subject to spending 5 hours in a room with Sal Manella
@@erhanjpg1467 OH GOD PLEASE NO-
@@aplusgamer6595 it also looks like he's about to lick Damon Gant
My wife Lana was put next to that menace
The fact that the fence in 1-3, an inanimate object, is the only one to actually get capital punishment 😂
"There's a specific subsection in the chapter on assault and battery that speaks to assaults done with the use of a stun gun" I mean damn I guess they're covering their bases alright
Assault and battery for a Stun Gun (Taser ?)... The involontary pun is golden XD
I hope this takes off because I need the Ron Delite trial analysed, I need big top taken apart, I need the Dahlia sentence, I wanna see how Prij does ghost crime so bad 🤩
Yeah. Sadly Ron DeLite is going away for multiple counts of burglary / theft / larceny (not sure which one is the correct charge but Prij will). Double Jeopardy doesn’t protect him from all his thefts
Need to know how much time the Bridge to Turnabout Murderer gets
@@hedgehogsonic11the big question is: (and spoilers for the mentioned case)
can you convict a ghost
SAME more please
I mean we could extrapolate that spiritual (or demonic) possession would exculpate someone of a crime according to CA Penal Code §.26 as seen at 30:50, due to them not being conscious thereof, thus falling under the fourth listed class of persons non-liable to be punished for a crime.
Honestly, that part could be used for a lot of other characters in fiction. Sephiroth could fall under that if you believe in the fanon idea of him being mind controlled and being used as a puppet by JENOVA ever since the Nibelheim Incident.
Frank Sawhit does come back in a later game, but he is still serving his sentence, as that case takes place in prison. Granted, it seems implied that he might get out at some point, but maybe he's hoping to get parole.
Yeah, I believe the implication is that Frank's participation in the vocational program is specifically with the goal of getting parole sooner (although they never say the word "parole").
Also, he gets his sentence extended by " a few years", so he presumably doesn't have a life sentence. Or at least, his opportunity for parole has been delayed.
Because it is not murder to the first degree right? He never intended someone to die, it just happened
@@jeannebouwman1970
It’d be voluntary manslaughter.
He didn’t mean to kill, but he did the actions.
2nd degree murder would be him trying to kill her because of in the moment.
But he (presumably) just got scared and swung.
@mategetsnosleep3612 well he could have intent, to not be prosecuted for burglary
I truly do hope this becomes a series
Assuming this video takes off, that's the plan!!
@SaveDataTeam Yippee!
_proceeds to count all the assaults Franziska is guilty of_
@@DeadlyPL 😂 sadly I can only assume that the whipping, coffee throwing and Hawk attacks will be ignored due to repitition
@@9k49 But honestly, who would get a bigger sentence? Franziska with her whipping defence lawyers, prosecutors, judges and witnesses (where there's thought behind each swing, as the only female character she ever whipped was Lotta) or Blackquil, who not counting Taka's attacks is still assaulting the defence lawyers, and even after having his shackles removed proceeds to assault Fulbright?
The fact that Sheriff Marshall canonically gets punished for his part in Rise from the Ashes but Angel Starr doesn’t is proof of Pretty Privilege (/j)
I think it has to do with Jake being recorded in the locker room tampering with evidence while Angel wasn’t caught. Jake was also an active police officer (granted he was a security guard in the evidence room but still a cop) when tampering with evidence Angel was retired from active duty. Angel merely misled the court with her testimony but it was mostly to gain attention and credibility as a witness. At least thats the way I see it. Also let’s not forget that he attack Officer Meekins and managed to cut him so possibly attempted murder?
Well yeah, just like attacking your fellow attorneys and the judge with a whip and never being charged with assault!
@ well good luck trying to take it away from her
@@maromania7 Godot got away with way too much coffee mug throwing, too. the prosecution is wild in that world. 🤣😂
I think the only thing you can charge Angel with is perjury. As she provided the evidence she collected to the police, it was filed and properly (within established procedure in the game world), even tampering with a crime scene would be shaky.
I love how additional sentences are added to life without parole like “rip bozo you’re going to jail until you die +2 more years”
US law be wild like that lol
One thing to consider about Von Karma's stun gun charge is that Maya is 16, and therefore the assault and battery charge is assault and battery of a minor depending on how California law defines a minor in these cases, which would probably mean a longer sentence.
Maya is 17 in the first game. Not sure if that changes anything tho
@nicholasricci8342 I could have sworn she was 16. Still not an adult though.
I like to headcanon they live in the same California as the Disney/Marvel Big Hero 6
It makes sense. Big Hero 6 is in San Fransokyo which could be the capital of Japanifornia.
And in the Big Hero 6 TV series, they have noodle burgers, a combo of Maya’s favorite foods in Japanese and English.
Edgeworth defends Callahan
@ Phoenix you mean? Edgeworth is a prosecutor
Callahan's breakdown includes "THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE!"
1:13:29 The C8H7N3O2 on the fridge is the chemical formula for luminol lmao
I can believe that could be canon.
Now I know how to get away with complicated Ace Attorney type crimes in the fictional state of California
I always knew California wasnt real.
It’s actually Japifornia, don’t get it twisted
29:13 iirc in the game it's stated that May told the bellboy ahead of time to bring coffee at 9 so he would be a witness to her being in the suite and not Fey and Co., which combined with the calm, matter of fact way White speak to Mia implies, to me at least, that they had planned to kill Mia.
Edit: also the fact that they knew Mia was going to be in the office at the time because they listened to her call with Maya. If White's intent was just to steal the papers then all he had to do was wait a bit longer.
The first can be explained as being establishing an alibi for the break-in, so doesn't rise to establishing intent to commit murder I think, but the latter point could indeed be more damning.
I do still think reasonable doubt remains. For instance, maybe they heard the phone call, knew they had to get the papers quickly because Mia was going to give them to Maya, and 9PM was the first opportunity they had to get it, and they were hoping to be out before Mia returned.
He wouldn't be able to wait, since Mia was going to give the evidence he wanted to Maya for safekeeping that night.
Also framing Maya was also premeditated, since he placed the note with her name in Mia's blood...
Yanni Yogi is charged with Simple Battery...
_Would explain why he keeps falling asleep._
Who's Yanni Yogi?
I only know Uncle.
in an alternate reality, phoenix wright is making a video essay all about every crime commited in save data
The Grinch better have a good lawyer.
Idk why but Phoenix pursuing a job as a TH-cam video essayist kind of makes sense in a weird way. He was doing an art degree while he was studying law, and even as far as Apollo Justice he still tunes into Steel Samurai, so something in creative media would suit him
One thing worth noting:
Real World California does not use the death penalty, as you stated.
But Dahlia Hawthorne, Terry Fawles, Simon Blackquill, and Joe Darke are all explicitly stated to have been given the death penalty for their crimes (or alleged crimes).
So Japanifornia uses it.
True, but it's more funny to just add up all the years of various crimes.
blackquill dies? :( (i havent played the game in like 3 years and dont even know anything about him. hes just hot)
@@thatonerisottosimp6791 It's part of his gimmick, he prosecutes law While on death row. They bring him into court in chains.
@@thatonerisottosimp6791(Spoilers I guess)
He doesn't, he gets acquitted for Metis Cykes' murder after final case of Dual Destinies and is freed from prison
maya also states that she fears the death penalty in the second trilogy
ohh this one is joining my "rewatch every couple months" mental video list. Great job to all of you guys! this was great!
Thank you so much!!
Your ace attorney with an actual lawyer series was one of the things that inspired me to finally pursue my interest in law, and I've started studying to get a paralegal certificate! Trying to figure out what fictional characters could be charged with legally has been something I've done to help practice making use of my knowledge, so this video has been a wonderful full circle for me. Would love to see more of these in the future! :D
Aw, that’s really awesome to hear! Good luck with your studies!!
"Talented artist" Ema Skye 😂 this was a great idea, I really hope you do the rest of the games too
Assuming this does well, we absolutely will!
Prij, i do have one point to bring up--a *lot* of the lesser criminals in this would probably be given concurrent sentences instead of consecutive, simply on the grounds that their crimes were minor enough as to not require separate prison time. For example, it'd be hard to argue that Lana Skye poses enough of a direct threat to the public as to require keeping her in prison as long as possible, so I suspect that her sentences would be set concurrent to one another.
Additionally, I suspect that a good defense attorney would be able to make a solid argument that Lana's actions to cover up Bruce Goodman's murder were under duress, on the grounds that she knew exactly what Damon Gant was willing to do to prevent the truth of SL-9 from coming out--i.e., she knew that he killed Goodman to keep him silent, and had a reasonable expectation that he would have been willing to kill her if she refused to help cover up that murder. Guaranteed defense? No, but a good chance of it working.
On another note, shouldn't Cody Hackins be facing some time for his regular B&E of the Global Studios lot? Or at least a slap on the wrist as a youthful offender...
Okay now I wanna open the whole can of worms that is “can children be prosecuted” but I’m not.
prij did clarify that the sentences aren't absolute, he's probably giving sentences purely based on what the laws are telling him. if the prosecutor was very good, they'd probably get heavier sentences as well
Since Cody wasn’t actually involved with the killing or aftermath though, unlike Sal, and was just a witness, that’ll be why he wasn’t included /nm
@@Northlight14what is nm?
It’s a tone indicator. It just stands for “not mad” and stuff like that
T&T Spoilers
Assuming Lana wasn't sentenced for anything else, she'd be released about the same time that Godot is found guilty in 3-5. This implies that the universe needs at least one of Mia Fey's lovers imprisoned at any given time.
This is my favorite comment on this video
All the while she's fucking dead😭😭
They’d be too powerful if all of them were conscious, alive, and out of prison
Free my girl she's already dead but now her lovers are suffering 💔
Really well put together! Thank you for finally putting that fence in its place, Prij.
as someone who wants to go into law THIS WAS SO COOL!! pretty please do the whole series!!!
Thank you! Good luck with your studies!
Sahwit could have renamed himself to Gotawaywithit if he just wasn't so dead set on when he thought the crime took place.
Im learning so much rn
This was awesome! Very different from a lot of the other 'real lawyer' interactions with Ace Attorney that I'm honestly not very interested in. A really great way to deploy knowledge regarding the particulars of a legal system that feels entertaining while still engaging with the text.
Even though Prij doesnt agree, it could come out during April's trial that Redd White did in fact blackmail her into helping, like he does with everyone
Prij only didnt agree cause PW doesnt seem to say otherwise, so in my opinion, April was absolutely acting under duress, and thats going to reduce her sentence(s). Plus, i have a feeling that getting Redd White convicted is so important (as he's a powerful figure) that the prosecution would probably offer April a reduced sentence or drop a few of her charges in exchange for testifying against him later. As the secretary of Bluecorp, getting her to flip would massively screw Redd White over in his trial.
This^^^ my girl was done dirty
I’m kinda surprised that being an accessory to a crime that didn’t happen is a defense, while you can be charged for actually murdering someone if you attempt murder without actually succeeding.
I genuinely love detailed explanations and breakdowns so this was very enjoyable. I hope to see more in the future!
Also the recreation of SL-9 just about killed me
I was proud of that bit 😂
I've seen content like this before, but this is by far the best that I've ever seen. The level of depth and editing that went into it is incredible. One of the only minor complaints I can make is that there are arguably some crimes that were missed. It's understandable since they are pretty minor or argueable for the most part, but I still want to name some I thought of here:
Larry never paid Phoenix for defending him.
Redd White stealing the papers from The Thinker could be considered stealing evidence in the same sense of Von Karma stealing DL-6 files.
Phoenix Wright definitely broke some laws during investigation (such as trespassing and stealing evidence without a warrant) and some of the people with Phoenix could be a principal to these crimes.
Even though we can't accurately judge Redd White's history of blackmail, we can see some of it through his extortion of Grossberg and how he used Grossberg selling out Misty Fey to get his painting and prevent him from defending Maya.
Also, Grossberg selling out Misty could be a crime to itself.
Redd White also clearly commited assault and battery when he punched phoenix.
Cody Hackins snuck into Global Studios, a privately owned movie studio, on multiple occasions.
I'd say Sal Manella was sexually harassing Maya Fey (a minor).
Dee Vasquez was definitely using the Mafia to threaten Phoenix's and Maya's lives and it can even be argued to be first degree attempted murder as they might have died if Gumshoe didn't intervene.
Lotta Heart was clearly breaking a law when she camped next to a no camping sign.
Yanni Yogi fled from the courtroom witgout express permission. Don't know if this is illegal, but it could be.
Gumshoe's pay being cut by prosecutors. Prosecutors like Edgeworth and Von Karma aren't allowed to do that.
Also, based on Gumshoe's $5 annual bonus and how he describes his living situation, Gumshoe is probably underpaid.
Again, this isn't much of a complaint as this video is overall phenomenal and very well made, but I just felt it was worth saying. However, if you want to, you could add an addendum to the start or end of the next video in this series clarifying these things to be more thorough. Again, you don't have to as it's your video, but I think it's a good idea.
Overall, this is an interesting idea for a series that is executed excellently so far.
This is mostly focusing on the culprits and the associates/those who truly committed crimes (looking at Jack Hammer, Joe Darke and Jake Marshall for the latter.)
If we wanted to sentence anyone for being principle to Phoenix stealing evidence/tampering with a crime scene, then Maya would be behind bars a long time ago😂😂
The Prij sprites are so good!! Thank you save data for letting my complete ace-attorney obsession live on :)
I agree - Nezz did an incredible job drawing those sprites of Prij in Phoenix's garb!
Had to leave the premiere for an appointment, so I just finished, but this was a banger essay, good job Prij and everyone who helped!! I have a couple people I’m going to throw this link at bc I would LOVE a video like this for JFA and T&T (well, ideally a video for every game but that’s definitely a huge ask!)
Thank you so much for sharing! It helps a ton! 🙌
can't wait for prij to read 19th century british law for the tgaa version of this series
Wonder if destruction of a courtroom as part of [spoiler]’s breakdown would go on top of everything else he did.
Prij is speaking a bit timidly as he reads from the script, but boy do I appreciate his dedication to this video concept! This is amazing! There's some room to cut down on repeating info previously established, but I'm so glad you covered the less open and shut crimes and just how up in the air it is on whether they'd be found guilty. I would love to see more of this!
Im more wondering how many characters didnt commit a crime, seems like theres barely any
true, even a lot of our main characters are occasional thieves lol
Well it’s only including people from the first game, and Prij makes clear early some exceptions he’s making. 😅 but I can guarantee there are people that are not included in the thumbnail!
Penny Nichols didn’t do anything I think
@@Bread16091 that we know of. I bet she’s the mastermind of the events of the as of yet unreleased 7th game 😮
@@Bread16091 Her crime is being the most normal human being in the series
It's a shame Sal could only at most get 6 months in jail, but other than that, this essay is awesome! It was really interesting learning all these legal terms and technicalities. Prij and everyone did a great job, and I'd love to see these for the other games.
Why would it be a shame that innocent person doesn't get severe punishment? The discrimination against Sal is freaking crazy
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp because Sal is a freak and a creep?
Nowhere near Director Hotti levels but still uncomfortable. (Also, obligatory Ace Attorney character simping over minors)
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimpif that is crazy, then lock me up in asylum. Sal doesnt deserve to walk around kids and/or produce any type of media related to them.
@@derekstryder2281 so you just send people you don't like to jail?
All he did is help Dee vasques, which is a crime, but he had no other choice, she literally has mafia on her side. Otherwise he just gets bullied for nothing. As well as director hotti. Being not likeable is not a crime
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimpharassment and impersonating doctors is, however.
I'd absolutely want the sequels to this video.
TH-cam algorithm doing the Lord's work here and bringing me to this fascinating video. I find it WILD that Sahwit gets straight up life in prison according to CPC. Hope to see the remaining games done like this, your efforts really show with this.
Thank you! 😊
i absolutely ADORED this video!!! i’ve been yearning for a thorough prij-analysis like this & it’s clear how much care went into it. would love to see more breakdowns for the rest of the trilogy/series! (also, prij’s sprites are SO CUTE & well made!!!)
I will support this video as much as I can to support as many follow-ups as possible!^^ Not just because I am curious about the sentences and legal terms in the other games, but also because this was a very entertaining and informative video of high quality we need more of on this website!
Thank you very much!^^
Thank you very much!! 🙌
This was super fun, and really informative! You all did a great job, eapecially prij! Also love the colors you used for the highlights :D
As an editor, I started using other colors than yellow after it was like 90% done😅 and I liked it way more. Assuming we do a follow up, I will probably use the pink/purple for more
@SaveDataTeam I'd say keep the seafoam green too! Looks great and contrasts nicely with the pink and purple when there were 3 highlighted sections! I may be bias, though, it's like my favorite color lol
I don't usually leave comments on TH-cam videos, but I just HAVE to for this one, I NEED the TH-cam algorithm to promote this. I can hardly imagine the hours put into this, and I can feel the dedication put into this video! I'm excited to see what you'd have to say about some of the other criminals in the series, especially one memorable dead red head.
This video also was a great reminder to get back into your series as well, as I found it earlier this year and was enjoying it. I've still got a long way to go (I'm on case 2-3, tragic bc it's big top, ik), but I love going through it! Plus, I can't recall any TH-camrs I watch going through the rest of the series post og trilogy, which makes me happy because Duel Destinies is one of my favorite games in the series!
P.S. (Grabs comedically large microphone) FREE MY BOY ROB ERRMAN HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING
Thank you so much for all the kind words! #justice4rob
This is great!
53:32 I can't believe the game overlooked the chance to prosecute a fence 😔
If they were in ancient rome, they actually could. Usually this ends in the destruction or "exile" of the item IE putting it somewhere else.
Honestly this is exciting as it brings up future questions about what legally could be done in situations such as Pearl and Morgan.
So excited for Wes to cosplay as Rob Errman
Also, second comment, but there was actually a case in Virginia where a patrol officer was arrested for impersonating a detective, and was charged with 'impersonating an officer.' He apparently did this to intimidate people into giving him access to personal files. I'm unsure on the differences between Virginia and California law in this regard, but it feels like it'd mean Jake Marshall's case would count as impersonating an officer, too.
vindication! but seriously that is interesting to hear.
Incredibly thorough, and also digestible for laypeople! I have no knowledge of laws/the justice system, you do a great job breaking it down. I really love seeing experts who are effective at communicating!
1:08:09 I love the next line's highlight getting excited and jumping forward, only to slink back because it came out too early.
XDDD yeah!
I remember hearing about Prij working in a lengthy video essay a while ago and im so glad it’s here now! Props to Prij this must have taken sooo much work
Shoutouts to everyone involved. This was an amazing video. Fun, informative and well put together in all fronts. Also WTF is that Sahwit vs Redd White meme, Zak you're wild for that one.
My finest work 🙌
Yesss I've been waiting for this one, I hope we get part 2 and 3 too
Prij does a great job being the main narrator! I hope to see this become a short series!❤
Oh my god I have got to see more of these! I would LOVE to know if Dr.Hotti (purported) is commiting a crime pretending to be a docter to steal patients drivers liscensess and be creepy
i think it's safe to assume that in the dark dystopian future of Ace Attorney that perjury just isn't a crime there, with how many other absurdities there are in these games it would make sense that perjury wouldn't exist as a crime there
Either that, or you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were maliciously lying with intent to cover something up, instead of just misremembering something or trying to piece together a narrative from incomplete information.
This was awesome. I would love to see this continue!
For a note about Perjury, it is actually addressed, but not in the trilogy, that I remember. The Great Ace Attorney 1 has perjury as a major plot point for the final case. So it does exist in some capacity in the AA universe, but probably Japanifornia has more lenient laws about it than England
3:02 NO, don't send Rob Errman to jail! I love Rob Errman! Free my boy, he did nothing wrong!
I would LOVE to see more videos like this one covering other games! This one was amazing!
Thank you! 😊
This took so much effort and it shows, you did such a good job Prij 🎉.
that was awesome, here's your well deserved acknowledgement. I enjoyed this so hard. loved it 10/10. i want videos for every single game in the series, INCLUDING great ace attorney chronicles (even if you choose to prosecute the characters based on modern cali law.) ♥♥♥♥♥♥ this video feeds me
Fantastic video! I'm a bit of a law nerd - in the specific sense of I find reading legalese and hearing law be talked about fun, but would never go to law school - so this whole video was a delight.
I'd actually be really interested to see if you would convict any of the 'heroes' of anything. We already know (and disregard for the sake of stylistic/gameplay absurdity) that Phoenix absolutely tampers with crime scenes and Franziska and Godot would be held in contempt of court for assaulting the defense, but what would you make of, say, Edgeworth's crimes? It seems that he very knowingly used false evidence to convict innocents to life imprisonment (or possibly death). The possible faking of his death (I have my reasons to believe that it was a genuine-and-failed su1cide attempt). Then there's also Phoenix's crimes (concealing + falsifying evidence) in Apollo Justice. There are likely others I'm not thinking of right now, but you get the gist.
Very knowingly? Rise from the Ashes establishes that despite the rumors surrounding the demon prosecutor, Edgeworth wasn't aware of the forged evidence he used. That in the one proven case where he used false evidence, the fault was with Damon Gant and Lana Skye.
Its typically not illegal to fake your own death. The illegal part comes from acts taking advantage of your false death like defrauding life insurance.
What it means to conceal evidence sounds like a headache thanks to California laws being very different from generalized Japanese laws. And falsifying evidence would fall under the general umbrella of tampering with evidence. So it likely wouldn't be treated any different than Phoenix messing with crime scenes. At least in California.
I think it's implied that Edgeworth did not know that any of the evidence was faked-he may have willfully ignored signs/chosen not to probe deeper, but he's genuinely shocked to find out that he presented false evidence in 1-5. He was probably knowingly stretching/playing dirty, but from what we know of his character, I don't believe he'd purposely do anything that would constitute actual falsification. At least the way I interpret it, he's truly convinced, for the first part of his career, that everyone on the stand is/*must* be guilty, and his duty is to make sure that truth comes to light-but he actually believes that it _is_ the truth, due to his, erm. personal neuroses. He does have a (very strong) personal code, it's just been warped by von Karma and the weight of his own guilt, which he projects onto every defendant placed in front of him. I think the retroactive realization that he's been complicit in convicting innocents through negligence is a big part of what influences his...further decisions that may or may not warrant criminal charges.
I mean as far as we know in "faking his own death" Edgeworth just left an ambiguously worded note & then left the country. None of which is illegal.
Actually I believe he was working abroad? Like tracking down DeKiller & stuff. So he definitely wasn't declared legally dead or anything.
Such a great video! Prij did a great job explaining everything and doing all this research! ❤❤❤
Thank you!! 🙌
I actually learned so much from this video; I never realized there was a difference between manslaughter and murder. I’d love to see this be a continued series!!
1:04:47 this exactly, the second you have time to think “I could get away with this,” anything that happens from that point onward can be considered pre-meditated if it’s in service of committing the act or covering it up
Amazing video, props to Prij (and Jason) for the writing and to Zak (and Karl) for the edits. Hopefully we can get more of these! Maybe a yearly event?
Also thanks Zak, Prij and Wes for the great letsplay of the AA games, I never miss it!
Thank you so much! If this does really well we'll definitely do another for JFA!
20:42 Bassically Edgeworth investigates a crime that took place in a prison and Frank was a witness. Bassically it's just the writers making a reference
This video taught me so much! At first I was worried all the readings from the penal code would be boring - but you explain things so well after the initial quote. To the point, I was understanding the direct reading a lot more as the video went on as i learned from previous explanations.
Today I learned about assault vs battery and how battery charges in this system include assault by default! I learned about kinds of manslaughter, larceny, burglary/robbery and extortion charges.
That is all to say - PLEASE MAKE MORE!!!
This sounds like an episode to cross over with California lawfirm and youtube channel legaleagle (who actually dud something for the anime)
I'd love to hear what Prij thinks of Mr. Spoiler's 10-year sentence at the end of Ghost Trick. I guess that game takes place in a fictional country so it's harder to know which laws to use but it's been a subject of debate in the fandom (whether it's too short or too long a sentence) for the 8 years I've been in it.
I mean, we played the game with Prij, I can't remember what he said at the end, but I vaguely remember being surprised at the sentence given the many crimes lol
@@SaveDataTeamHuh, were there that many?
Spoilers:
If i remember right, his crimes would be:
-Escaping police custody (unclear whether he was properly detained, as they were just taking his statement.)
-Stealing a firearm
-Taking a hostage (though we never actually see him point the gun at the hostage, only at the officer chasing him)
Yeah those sound heavy, but Cabanela and Jowd admit themselves that their actions may have caused Duress. Such as firing a warning shot and making him think his life will be ruined.
Also at the end he ended up saving his hostage from death, which even resulted in serious injuries, which a good lawyer could use to lighten the sentence.
But i don't know
Looking forward to seeing the next part.
Would also be interested in seeing this format applied to other franchises like the Somnium Files or Danganronpa. Yknow, if you guys ever ended up playing that
This was interesting to watch and I appreciate the detail you went into! Definitely don't mind the length as it's great to put on while doing another activity. If you make more, I look forward to them!
Jokes aside, someone should probably get rid of that fence given that's indirectly responsible for 2 deaths. Even if people weren't acting or quarrelling by it, it's still feasible that someone could trip walking in or out of the trailer and end up skewed on the fence. That things is a major safety hazard.
Yeah, they clearly should have gotten rid of it immediately after (if not before, just seeing the thing should have made people realise that it wasn't a good idea) the first person died.
Is okay, take your time, I really enjoyed this
I waited a lot for an analisis of what punishment criminal would get in ace attorney
I would love to see the next two games, but dont push yourself!! Really liked the video, great work!!!
this is incredible from the analysis to the editing, we absolutely need more
Thank you!
My obsession with Ace Attorney came back and I decided to play this trilogy again. TH-cam fortunately recommended me this video, and I liked it so much I started binge watching your playthrough from the beginning! I love your playthrough so much, they are so funny and bring me so much joy! I also loved this video a lot, it was very interesting and informative, and it's obvious it took a lot of work from researching to editing, so thank you so much for it!! I hope you post another video for JFA, it would be just as amazing!
Thanks so much for the kind words and I’m glad you’re enjoying the playthrough! We're def gonna do a follow up to this,, it might take till the second half of next year but we're on it!😅
This was so fun + educational! As an undergrad student aiming to go to law school after I graduate I love learning about stuff like this, especially since it's Prij presenting! Loved this, thanks for the lesson!
Thank you! Good luck in law school! 🙌
this is genuinely my new favourite youtube video. i’d love to see a video like this for another ace attorney game!!
1:13:29: for those curious, C⁸H⁷N³O² is the chemical formula for luminol.
This was great! Would love to see more from Prij like this.
This was absolutely interesting to watch and a concept I have yet to see from other content creators. I really hope we do get more of these though I do understand that these take work so take all the time yall need.
Wonderful job by Prij finally getting to flex his legal muscle instead of just yelling at the games for all the crimes pretty much every character does and nobody seems to care about 😂
Oooh this is gonna be fun ! can't wait
great video !! i would love to see this explored for at least the other games in the trilogy! 💙
Assuming this video takes off, that's the plan!!
Excellent job on this video. The research was extensive and the stock footage was hilarious.
Thanks! I was def really happy with some of the pulls I found for this. Shout out to the weird old hitman putting on his shades 😂
@@SaveDataTeam Yo, that old man footage went crazy for exactly negative reason. Great pull
This was genuinely a super cool video and was a great way to spend the evening! Would love to see you go through the rest of the games, or maybe branching out to other mystery/detective games? Either way, great stuff!
I have a 6 hour seminar ahead of me, this makes the trip there and back so much more enjoyable :’) Thank you Prij and Save Data Team!
Glad to help! Hope the seminar goes well!
please make this a series, i'd love to see the later ace attorney games analyzed like this!!!!
I'm going to keep rewatching this to contribute to the incentive of making this a series. I adore this
Thank you dorky 💜
36:07 your definitions are switched here
20:37 Well, to be fair, Sahwit Is In jail here.
This was very informational and fun. I look forward to watching your playlists.
Thank you! 😁
Incredibly fun to see how punishments vary between seemingly equally egregious offenses.
Can’t wait for this breakdown for the other trilogy games if it’s planned!
This was sooo engaging! Videos like this make me reconsider studying law (for 2 seconds lol). Bravo to the team for this banger!
For case 1-3, I wonder what the civil suit could look like against the studio for the cover ups + gross negligence with having such a dangerous work environment (OSHA wya???)
I'm kinda surprised he didn't talk about the stuff Phoenix does. There's a few examples but the biggest one is Phoenix finding, and taking the wiretap. As Phoenix Trespasses into her hotel room while she was showering. Then practically steals the wiretap from one of the drawers.
I wonder if the sentence is worse if Phoenix is considered a civilian breaking in, OR if Phoenix is considered and "investigator" entering without a warrant. Just something to think about
I'm no expert in law. But I think Phoenix is considered a civilian while he goes into April May's room. As he has no warrant and was not let in by the occupant and hotel rooms are considered private property. Which, would lead to at least get Phoenix a tresspassing charge. I don't think it would change May's verdict or punishment. But it would spell fines for Phoenix at best. Or at worse get himself disbarred from practicing law.
Edit: If I'm wrong and Prij, sees this. He'll probably correct me
This was so great to listen to! Hope you get to do the other games and thanks for all that hard work!!