JLCPCB PCB Fab & Assembly from $2! Sign up to Get $60 Coupons: jlcpcb.com/?from=Cskirt I've learned a lot about about BLDC controllers while making this video, but I'm no expert and when I decided to go this route I wasn't aware about some limitations in VESC boards. I believe I'll have solutions to drive at higher ERPM with more stability for the next part, but if you have good knowledge in ESCs, feel free to contact me! I made this mainly focused on PC parts, which also let me use some old scrapped footage now that I finally could drive a HDD and fan to it's limits.
@ianhosier4042 erpm is the RPM * number of magnetic pole pairs in the motor, "electrical rpm". Basically the rpm/switching speed the controller "sees". So in a 14 pole motor, the ESC is driving at 7x the RPM of the motor. I don't have any experience converting an image like that, I just redraw the schematic, and you're probably better of making the PCB layout yourself than using automatic placement in my experience
@@Cskirt what software do you use to prepare schematics? I started off using paint then PowerPoint and now I use a combination of PowerPoint and Microsoft draw as vector drawing packages make it much easier to do the connections once you have the components in place. The only save option these have is various image formats such as BMP, JPEG, TIFF etc. I never understood how these PCB companies know the sizes of components especially since most of my circuits are built using bits I find in junked equipment left in dumpsters. Of course this isn't an issue if you make your own PCBs at home and have the bits in front of you. I suppose I do end up doing manual routing but usually on paper as there isn't an easy way to draw boards in the above packages. I also noticed that these companies only accept payment in us dollars and since that isn't the currency of my country I would get stung by currency transfer fees and import taxes.
@ianhosier4042 EasyEDA, eagle or kicad are some good software to use, you choose what size your components are (or download specific footprint files for the components you use), draw the schemetic and then place them on the board and draw traces how you like
Fun fact: Hard drives that spin up to 10,000 or even 15,000 RPM do exist. Examples being the MAXTOR Atlas, Seagate Cheetah, WD Raptor and Velociraptor.
@@notsoseagatey Not the Raptor / Velociraptor! It was available for the regular consumer (gamers targeted), and came in SATA as the connector. Most 10K RPM drives use SAS connectors.
I was laterally asking my brother "can Hard Drive motors burn out like a normal motor?" an hour and 30 minutes later, I get this video . more proof google/youtube listens to your microphone ☠💀
@@ChaoticEnigma- they're made with a high amount of precision since there are chance that a guy with a power supply would give it 400 Volts to spin it faster than a 2004 F1 engine.
Just-short-of-qualified auto-electrician here, we replace the smoke with better built aftermarket smoke, as putting generic and OEM smokes back in doesn't tend to last as long as a well engineered alternative. Hope this helps
@The_Ambababush. when an electronic part gets too much voltage or burns up, smoke is released and many call this "magic smoke" or the "components spirit." If you capture it's spirit, shamans from the old world in the order of ohm can reverse polarity and summon the spirit smoke back into the device. Rendering it functional again. 😀
You're lucky that PC and computer component motors are so finely balanced. CDs will break apart and fragment at speeds approaching at about 30,000 RPM. Use safety glasses kids! 😁
What issues do you have when you try to run it? I just used the three phase wires because I didn't care that it's a little rough at low speed. If you want to use the hall sensors, it shouldn't be too hard to open it up and see where the wires go?
Do you have an ESC? You need a controller to run these motors, and the three phases doesn't matter which order you connect them (flip two of them if it's running the wrong direction)
In a brush motor, the first thing to go is usually the brushes, but yes you can have more in depth failures. In brushless motors, the only thing really to fail is the coils.
Really enjoying your videos. You can tell the engineering that went into HDD's was solid as that 7200rpm hd went over 30K rpm and looked stable. Btw what tachometer are you using for these tests? I just bought two off Amazon to detect my RC helicopter main blade RPM (two blade) and I don't like either one. They are very inaccurate or just don't work at all. And finally what are you building with the PCB board?
I'm using the UT373 tachometer, recently changed to another brand of reflective tape, works much better... I've also tried one of those cheap tachometers that's all over Amazon and chinese websites, but that was really unreliable and suddenly stopped working. The PCB I built was a vesc based ESC to be able to run the motors at higher voltages than the built in ESC
You can make your outrunners last longer if you take them apart and epoxy the magnets in place, throwing magnets has killed more of my motors than anything else
Dear Cskirt channel. This overvolting combination was epic as always😀. My request is, could you please try overvolting the 80k RPM screwdriver motor mentioned in a previous clip in your next combination as I'd been wondering how fast it'll go before burning out and what damage it'll have afterwards. Cheers😊.
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I've learned a lot about about BLDC controllers while making this video, but I'm no expert and when I decided to go this route I wasn't aware about some limitations in VESC boards.
I believe I'll have solutions to drive at higher ERPM with more stability for the next part, but if you have good knowledge in ESCs, feel free to contact me!
I made this mainly focused on PC parts, which also let me use some old scrapped footage now that I finally could drive a HDD and fan to it's limits.
What is ERPM and can you recommend a conversion software to convert circuit diagrams scanned in jpeg or tiff format into Gerber format?
@ianhosier4042 erpm is the RPM * number of magnetic pole pairs in the motor, "electrical rpm". Basically the rpm/switching speed the controller "sees". So in a 14 pole motor, the ESC is driving at 7x the RPM of the motor.
I don't have any experience converting an image like that, I just redraw the schematic, and you're probably better of making the PCB layout yourself than using automatic placement in my experience
@@Cskirt what software do you use to prepare schematics? I started off using paint then PowerPoint and now I use a combination of PowerPoint and Microsoft draw as vector drawing packages make it much easier to do the connections once you have the components in place. The only save option these have is various image formats such as BMP, JPEG, TIFF etc. I never understood how these PCB companies know the sizes of components especially since most of my circuits are built using bits I find in junked equipment left in dumpsters. Of course this isn't an issue if you make your own PCBs at home and have the bits in front of you. I suppose I do end up doing manual routing but usually on paper as there isn't an easy way to draw boards in the above packages. I also noticed that these companies only accept payment in us dollars and since that isn't the currency of my country I would get stung by currency transfer fees and import taxes.
@ianhosier4042 EasyEDA, eagle or kicad are some good software to use, you choose what size your components are (or download specific footprint files for the components you use), draw the schemetic and then place them on the board and draw traces how you like
@@Cskirt unfortunately i don't have money for a license for these or to pay someone to teach me how to use them
Fun fact: Hard drives that spin up to 10,000 or even 15,000 RPM do exist. Examples being the MAXTOR Atlas, Seagate Cheetah, WD Raptor and Velociraptor.
those are enterprise or server drives, not intended for consumer usage
@@notsoseagatey Not the Raptor / Velociraptor! It was available for the regular consumer (gamers targeted), and came in SATA as the connector. Most 10K RPM drives use SAS connectors.
@@Mike-77-YT Yeah the raptor is a budget server/consumer drive
@@Mike-77-YT There was also some other enterprise SCSI drives by fujitsu that did 15k and the seagate 15k.x series
At that point you should just call it a jet propeller
that fan was a drone for a minute lol
Bruh
😂😂ha ha .
@@FakhrilA5F
Why can’t they just make drones out of pc fans😂
6:55 Bro hit the rev limiter
Haha car joke
😂😂😂
Yes 😂 i thought the same 😂
Honda civic be like:
My Tesla model y when I add futuristic engine sounds
that CD drive @ 25V aggressively throwing the disk back and forth sent me 😂😂😂
Yeah, me too. It seemed genuinely upset as though it was in pain. 🤣
Applying power to whole drive will make it malfunction in different ways . Funny the way it refuses to accept the disc of death
That fan had so much lift, incredible!
8:13 cd VTEC kicks in
Finally someone understand 😂👍🏼
I was laterally asking my brother "can Hard Drive motors burn out like a normal motor?" an hour and 30 minutes later, I get this video .
more proof google/youtube listens to your microphone
☠💀
Meanwhile I was parallely asking my sister about it
@@unknownboi4414yes the Google theory
if you put 260V across, they will ! 😂
@@Lvtdgb_40m when we gonna hit light speed bro
9:43 That DVD drive got crazy violent. 🙂
6:55 you enter the jungle
Nah you entered the arcade machine
I wouldn't have thought the floppy drive would get up to that speed. Nice.
I can smell the burning circuits and components from here! The CD eject mechanism and explosion had me laughing! Thanks for that!
It's kinda interesting how you uploaded this just a day after the crowdstrike outage
Maybe he uses a a
Mac for edeting
@@FI-TECH-250 it only affected buisnesses
its almost like not everyone was affected by cloudstrikes outage! 😮 crazy i know
lmao
Maybe learn that not every windows computer was affected by it. Only corporate computers were affected, Linux boy
That drone motor with the prop made so much thrust that the RPM meter flew off 😭
the tachometer flies away 😆
1:57 How to make your HDD faster than an SSD in three simple steps:
😂😂😂
The complete lack of vibration shows you just how well balanced those discs are.
@@ChaoticEnigma- they're made with a high amount of precision since there are chance that a guy with a power supply would give it 400 Volts to spin it faster than a 2004 F1 engine.
the early multi speed drive were famous for exposing defects in discs
They would shatter in the drive
Do you collect the smoke, so that you can reinstall it in the motors or do you replace it with generic smoke?
Just-short-of-qualified auto-electrician here, we replace the smoke with better built aftermarket smoke, as putting generic and OEM smokes back in doesn't tend to last as long as a well engineered alternative.
Hope this helps
😂
what type of smoke? i'm missing something here.
@The_Ambababush. when an electronic part gets too much voltage or burns up, smoke is released and many call this "magic smoke" or the "components spirit." If you capture it's spirit, shamans from the old world in the order of ohm can reverse polarity and summon the spirit smoke back into the device. Rendering it functional again.
😀
@@lansing7864Alright, how much have you had to drink?
the CD Eject💀
Funny how it still worked after the capacitors popped
10:32 Intel : it probably need some microcode / VID table update
5:33 A fast Wheel to go faster!
That tachometer really just said "c'mere and gimme a smooch!!" at 5:18 lol
10:27 😮😮😮😮😮 that was really crazy. Thanks for showing this to us
You're lucky that PC and computer component motors are so finely balanced. CDs will break apart and fragment at speeds approaching at about 30,000 RPM. Use safety glasses kids! 😁
I had safety glasses, helmet, and was hiding under the table expecting more spectacular fails 🫣
@@Cskirt Which did worry the most of these? I feared your HDD platter will explode like no tomorrow at above 30k rpm 😀
5:23 this turned into a washing machine at the end
I smelt it
Hahah! Also im CZ EZ
fun fact : i was actually talking about the hoverboard one
@@TheOfficialDorianelevator looll now I understand
If It was a train motor wow 😮
This video is disproportionately terrifying to me. Thanks for creating and sharing.
4:14 I was waiting for the hard drive platter to explode but it didn’t. 😮
CD would blow up before the HDD. And I think that was around 20k RPM, can't remember who did it.
peppejam, at 23k rpm. @@halo64654
@@halo64654mythbusters did im pretty sure
@@halo64654 Slomo Guys
@halo64654 was it the slo mo guys?
3:25 - what a potato pc playing youtube at 144p sounds like
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤
The pop corn of death watching video of toy lizard trying to escape death then the PC is next
Loved the cd drive having a seizure opening and closing
I'm looking forward to seeing the next part , especially for overvoltage the Hoverboard motor. That thing handled 84volts pretty damn well
That Noctua ram was seriously impressive!
Damn, that fan took 60 to 80v like a champ. Oh and POP GOES THE WEASEL!!
I'd love a 32,000 RPM HDD lol
maybe it can reach sata ssd speeds spinning that fast haha
Yes I would love servers with hdd’s that draw 430w each lol
I am wondering about read and write speed with that
@@patchworkkid24 Even if. The major advantage of SSD are the access times and the SSD would still win there
That CD drive from 9:15 was *very angry*
Bro just made the computer fan a helicopter😂😂
Dude over driving high rpm dangerous motors and holding it with down using duct tapes and filming it with mobile phones. How brave this guy is!
7:12 i really wish I could trust someone as much as you do trust this duck tape
Very informative video, really shows the danger of over voltage on computer parts i guess
That hard drive sounded pretty cool
The hard drives and motherboards hurt my heart but for the fun of science and seeing how long things last
Now this is a quality content
Could u explaing how did you wire the hoverboard motor? Got a spare one here and I've been trying to get it to run for weeks
What issues do you have when you try to run it? I just used the three phase wires because I didn't care that it's a little rough at low speed. If you want to use the hall sensors, it shouldn't be too hard to open it up and see where the wires go?
@@Cskirt honestly I just never used a three phase motor
Do you have an ESC? You need a controller to run these motors, and the three phases doesn't matter which order you connect them (flip two of them if it's running the wrong direction)
Now you did it! You let the smoke out, LOL!
1:57 sounds really cool actually
10:16 My windows 7 when running videos in 4K:
Am here for the hover board motor, they are insanely tuff built
0:20 I didn’t expect that to happen
That's some high speed data right there 2:40
You should put tape on the opposite side too. The weight difference with these components does make a real difference. Just divide your RPM by 2
3:26 …..☠️☠️☠️Start Flying
Funny how the driver board popped after the first motor flew apart
Motor came to a sudden stop, and the back EMF blew the driver transistors.
shoulve brought that mobo to a PC repairshop :P
I'm glad you do this. My wife would be pissed off.
6:49 KV Motor revving up like a 787B's Rotary!
In a brush motor, the first thing to go is usually the brushes, but yes you can have more in depth failures. In brushless motors, the only thing really to fail is the coils.
Or the controller 😉
2:44 sounds like a asc t128
Woooow.
5:56 UFO SPACECRAFT Sound.😂😂😂😂
Or a washing machine.
Inshort : Read/write of HDD@35000 rpm > Floppy @15000 rpm > Nvme Zen 4 (only 7000Mb/s) lol
2:41 sounds like my ps4
Technology is awesome
Yeah
5:01 Nissan GTR Launch Control sound like a 930 KV Motor
3:12 we have confirmed that a noctua fan at 24 v sounds exactly the same as a delta fan
These were normal 12v pc fans right? could you try PWM fans
10:16 that sounds just like my desktop PC when i install 1919 programs at once lol
Really enjoying your videos. You can tell the engineering that went into HDD's was solid as that 7200rpm hd went over 30K rpm and looked stable.
Btw what tachometer are you using for these tests? I just bought two off Amazon to detect my RC helicopter main blade RPM (two blade) and I don't like either one. They are very inaccurate or just don't work at all.
And finally what are you building with the PCB board?
I'm using the UT373 tachometer, recently changed to another brand of reflective tape, works much better...
I've also tried one of those cheap tachometers that's all over Amazon and chinese websites, but that was really unreliable and suddenly stopped working.
The PCB I built was a vesc based ESC to be able to run the motors at higher voltages than the built in ESC
That hoverboard motor literally had turned into the LG washing machine💀
6:18 the wheels is 10 inches at 1275 rpm is 38 mph
Thanks for doing the conversion. I was thinking about that
Imagine your harddrive actually taking up power levels upwards of 4080’s and 90’s 😭
That was funny to watch.
How to make your PC a drone. Just run fans at 80v
7:00 that poor motor screamed before dying💀😭
0:15 vtech kicks in yoo
whats vtech i only know vtec or u talking about a company
I totalled the exact same fan, it died suddenly and I gave it 20v to get the magic smoke.
Hard drive sounded like a washing machine
4:50 Floppy drive becomes SSD😂
9:31 wah jadi ingat sama movie:MISSION IMPOSSIBLE🧨😅😂
Wish TH-cam had small-o-vision. I’m sure these motors give off unique smells.
HDD spinning so fast you can see data being compressed to the side physically. 😂
Floppy drive at 14k rpm might be useable for todays data amounts 😂
Когда раскрутил жёсткий диск до 34 тыс оборотов, он наверное начал работать быстрее SSD.
I always wanted to overclock my hard drives…
Try it on a DirectDrive Steering wheel and set Force Feedback to 100% 😀
The 2200kv outrunner reached the rev limiter😂
5:18 that motor was so powerful, that the rpm thingy got sucked into the airflow of the motor
What happened to the reader with the white propellers?!
You should try taking apart an old laser printer and over volt the BLDC motors inside
5:54 it sounds like LG washing machine
I thought the same probably same amount of coils
You can make your outrunners last longer if you take them apart and epoxy the magnets in place, throwing magnets has killed more of my motors than anything else
Just to get thrills & magic smoke.....
Next overdrive some F1 motors/freight train/rc modeled airplanes targetting each other
Can't wait for someone to do the same thing with a Moza R5
How do you even get a hard drive to spin so fast. I have always wanted to make a fan using a hard drive motor.
Sparkling
5:35 Sounds like a first and second gen train Traction motor winding up
Fun fact: the hard drive is an ExcelStor Ganymede J680.
Awesome! And new subscriber! 😊
the HDD impressed me the most, poor thing taking 400w
10:39...do you think the motherboard is gonna be ok?
Oh yeah. Clean windows install and it's good to go
I'd like to see if you can get any of these approaching 100,000 rpms. With no load of course.
The multimeter fly out☠️ 5:17
This is a *_Tachometer_*
0:13 - с такими звуками рвутся презервативы под натиском интенсивной любви
О вы из рашша)))
Now I wonder if its possible to make a molecular drag vacuum pump with HDD platters
Dear Cskirt channel. This overvolting combination was epic as always😀.
My request is, could you please try overvolting the 80k RPM screwdriver motor mentioned in a previous clip in your next combination as I'd been wondering how fast it'll go before burning out and what damage it'll have afterwards.
Cheers😊.