Lies were told to Sonoma County based on emotion rather than consumer preferences. Nobody cares what others like to eat unless you are paying for it. You’re not paying for my rib eye steaks, baby back ribs, lamb chops or fried chicken. My food, my money, my choice. Go eat your salads and leave our county’s meat and dairy alone.
Right, they don't give a thought to the 7.5 million urban/ suburban people who generally can't afford what small farms produce, and small farms can't affordably produce enough to meet the need.
The Tresch family convinced me. I think that animal abuse should not be tolerated... we need accountability & enforcement. We shouldn't turn the whole industry upside down however.
My Grandfather kept a small truck farm in San Francisco, he kept two pigs ,a horse , chickens, rabbits, and a cow, along with a large vegetable garden and fruit trees. He supplied his neighbors with milk, milk products, eggs, chicken, manure for their own gardens, etc. Then these small holdings were shut down and banned in SF, and were forced to move elsewhere. Many of those people came to Sonoma County. With the elimination of these small holdings to serve urbanites and suburbanites, larger farms were *required* in order to meet the public's needs. This is what we are dealing with now. Most small farms today cater to an essentially upscale local market community which is great, although it comes at a higher price due to the overhead required just to keep solvent. Also because they're smaller producers, they can't realistically meet the affordable food needs of the urban population. In the SF Bay area alone, that's 7.5 million people. Absolutely correct that there needs to be better public education regarding how farm foods are produced. I've seen and heard children in Sonoma county who have no idea that a chicken is required in order to produce an egg, or that cows are where milk comes from. A college level required reading textbook at Sonoma State University had a photo of dairy Holsteins at a feed bunk with pristine free choice alfalfa , but the caption read "cattle in feed lot " i.e. beef cattle. I was a lone voice in the class, BTW.
@@miguelangelaguilar5861 Not if you love to eat meat and dairy and live within city limits. Where are we supposed to put a couple cows, sheep, pigs, chickens, ducks and turkeys? Sounds like discrimination against people living in the city who can’t afford acres of land for raising livestock.
If the measure is solely about concentration of animals then all the large farms have to do expand the space they provide or have fewer animals. Is there a hidden agenda to shut them down?
Vote NO on Measure J unless you do not eat like normal people or are in the top 1% tax bracket. If you like cream in your coffee, milk, butter on your toast, cheese, cream cheese on bagels, eggs, grilled burgers, Thanksgiving turkey, Christmas Prime Rib, Easter Ham, etc. The radical fanatical vegans want to turn our famed agricultural Sonoma County in a bunch of abnormal vegans. They want to control our stores, shopping, menus, restaurant choices, etc. Started in Berkeley by the vegan DXe lawbreaking group, they want to expand everywhere and change your desired way of life. If passed meat and dairy will be shipped in and cost more and will be exactly from those kind of farms those non meat and dairy people dislike.
Please vote Yes on J! This measure will help end factory farming and reduce the number of animals in those massive operations that confine over 200,000 animals in small spaces. Let’s support small, local farms and promote a more humane, sustainable approach to agriculture! Vote YES!
California is essentially “the peasants out of my sight will do all the things nessesary for me to live. Make my pollution, my power and food just give me the nice clean and quiet final package “
@sierragreen its the same when you allow them to be free. Basically this point goes both ways and if it's very upsetting to many then I say go hunt for your food. All we can really do is make sure people are not intentionally torturing animals.
Lies were told to Sonoma County based on emotion rather than consumer preferences. Nobody cares what others like to eat unless you are paying for it. You’re not paying for my rib eye steaks, baby back ribs, lamb chops or fried chicken. My food, my money, my choice. Go eat your salads and leave our county’s meat and dairy alone.
Right, they don't give a thought to the 7.5 million urban/ suburban people who generally can't afford what small farms produce, and small farms can't affordably produce enough to meet the need.
The Tresch family convinced me. I think that animal abuse should not be tolerated... we need accountability & enforcement. We shouldn't turn the whole industry upside down however.
This is the right direction! Smaller flocks! Stop the factories!
Zero point of the overall size of the farm, it's about the room per animal. Why not make that the direct goal?
YES ON J
My Grandfather kept a small truck farm in San Francisco, he kept two pigs ,a horse , chickens, rabbits, and a cow, along with a large vegetable garden and fruit trees. He supplied his neighbors with milk, milk products, eggs, chicken, manure for their own gardens, etc. Then these small holdings were shut down and banned in SF, and were forced to move elsewhere. Many of those people came to Sonoma County. With the elimination of these small holdings to serve urbanites and suburbanites, larger farms were *required* in order to meet the public's needs. This is what we are dealing with now. Most small farms today cater to an essentially upscale local market community which is great, although it comes at a higher price due to the overhead required just to keep solvent. Also because they're smaller producers, they can't realistically meet the affordable food needs of the urban population. In the SF Bay area alone, that's 7.5 million people. Absolutely correct that there needs to be better public education regarding how farm foods are produced. I've seen and heard children in Sonoma county who have no idea that a chicken is required in order to produce an egg, or that cows are where milk comes from. A college level required reading textbook at Sonoma State University had a photo of dairy Holsteins at a feed bunk with pristine free choice alfalfa , but the caption read "cattle in feed lot " i.e. beef cattle. I was a lone voice in the class, BTW.
instead incentivize better practices ie regenerative farming
You folks for J can’t be that naive! Yes let’s keep adding more regulations to the already heavy regulated industries.
All that cow crap goes down stream the Russian river, I quit going to the river for that reason over 10 years ago.
No it doesn't it gets the moisture removed from it and turned into Livestock bedding and fertilizer.
That's likely human crap, not cow crap.
These same people complaining are enjoying their burgers & chicken nuggets!
So where are they going to get their food …… 💀. If you want to see violence in this country, all it takes is people getting hungry.
This has the ability to allow thousands of small family Farms to start-up.
@@User-54631 large Farms become a Monopoly, small farms can't compete with prices
no it doesn't.. not for meat anyway, big farms and corporations control the USDA packing houses
No this has the ability to completely take away the resources from anybody trying to raise livestock.
@@miguelangelaguilar5861 Not if you love to eat meat and dairy and live within city limits. Where are we supposed to put a couple cows, sheep, pigs, chickens, ducks and turkeys? Sounds like discrimination against people living in the city who can’t afford acres of land for raising livestock.
I feel bad for the Tresch family. The shout get to keep their farm buy maybe subsidies to transition to more compassionate farming.
Ignorant, dangerous, and seditious measure.
If the measure is solely about concentration of animals then all the large farms have to do expand the space they provide or have fewer animals. Is there a hidden agenda to shut them down?
It won't matter how much space you have this measure makes it so there is a limit to the livestock you can have regardless of the territory you own.
Vote NO on Measure J unless you do not eat like normal people or are in the top 1% tax bracket. If you like cream in your coffee, milk, butter on your toast, cheese, cream cheese on bagels, eggs, grilled burgers, Thanksgiving turkey, Christmas Prime Rib, Easter Ham, etc. The radical fanatical vegans want to turn our famed agricultural Sonoma County in a bunch of abnormal vegans. They want to control our stores, shopping, menus, restaurant choices, etc. Started in Berkeley by the vegan DXe lawbreaking
group, they want to expand everywhere and change your desired way of life. If passed meat and dairy will be shipped in and cost more and will be exactly from those kind of farms those non meat and dairy people dislike.
Humans are the dominant race.
You dont see Shark's having debate to see how the food they eat makes them feel
Please vote Yes on J! This measure will help end factory farming and reduce the number of animals in those massive operations that confine over 200,000 animals in small spaces. Let’s support small, local farms and promote a more humane, sustainable approach to agriculture! Vote YES!
California is essentially “the peasants out of my sight will do all the things nessesary for me to live. Make my pollution, my power and food just give me the nice clean and quiet final package “
When you allow animals to run around they will attack each other that's just nature
Confining animals for their own protection doesn't come across very well.
@sierragreen its the same when you allow them to be free. Basically this point goes both ways and if it's very upsetting to many then I say go hunt for your food. All we can really do is make sure people are not intentionally torturing animals.
Animals are private property not members of the community. If you care buy free range meat. Respect other people's property and opinions.
This is something similar to what you might hear in the antebellum south.
I am a Conservative Independent Trump supporter. YES ON J. Protect poor animals.