When Pippen viewed the last dance doc he was salty at how Jordan was portrayed as winning those titles by himself and Pippen knows that he played a vital role in helping the Bulls win but everybody wants to give all credit to Jordan.
@@renatolocsin2741 Well...yeah. He had Kukoc, Armstrong, Horace, Paxson, Phil Jackson and a whole culture that was predicated on standards. Jordan had drug addicts, Kevin Loughery, Stan Albeck AND the Celtics in the first round. The Bulls that one year had an aging Cavaliers. The next year...? 33-31 till Jordan came back, moving them to 47-35.
LOL Isiah wasn't no punk and he'd fight you if he had to. He always bumped heads with former Indiana coach Bobby Knight and Knight said Isiah always reacted as if he wanted to fight when Knight would get on him about something and Isiah said I did because where I'm from when you get in somebody's face that means you wanna do something LOL.
Isaiah is right about Pippen. Isaiah LED the Pistons to back to back championships and almost a 3 peat: Pippen meanwhile was Robin to Jordan’s Batman. He was the second player on the team and no match winner.
Scottie Pippen was robin to batman cause that’s what they got labeled. Mj won one single important game w/out Pippen in uniform after the bulls got him. Mj who gives no credit to anyone gave him one of his mvp finals cars. Pip made the game easier for everybody on those squads and they’ll tell you and he did while Mj was worried about scoring titles and who did the scoring. When Mj retired out of nowhere a few weeks before the season they won 55 games and got robbed in the playoffs against the knicks. Pip one of the best 2 way players to ever play the game w/elite D that’s getting u 20 while fighting for shots and can create for others as well as himself. There isn’t a lot of that since the nba began. The media marketing tool has dumbed the game down to where we call players 1 way players & 2 way players as well as people really believe 1 way good/great players are better than 2 way good/great players and more valuable when that’s impossible. They have hall of fame 1 way players rated over Pippen when he’s better than any 1 way player that can ever be named from the hall of fame on down. He’d make it harder on the 1 way guys than they could ever make it on him but he gets called a Robin. Even the way Isaiah who was raw talks about him and truth be told he’s not a better basketball player than Pip. Overall game isn’t even looked at anymore. When Mj played Pip was being called the best all around player in the game including Mj himself saying it after Dream team to Phil Jackson. The way tv sports media and image creation along with marketing is a lot of people get told what they see and sometimes to uplift some players others get underrated. Pippen & Klay Thompson are at the top of that list. They call Pippen Robin but Mj had to wait on him to beat Detroit. They won 55 games without Mj. Robins can’t do that
@jimmie parker Jordan, Olajuwon, Robinson, Malone, Barkley were all better than Pippen in the 90s. So definitely not top 5. In the 80s he wouldn’t have even been top 20.
@jimmie parker 🎯🎯🎯🎯 Even when Mj retired a few weeks before the season the core he was with won 55 games and people act like that means nothing. They skip that year and say what the bulls record was when Mj came back but they forget to add Horace Grant left. He underrated too. Guard multiple positions, was averaging double doubles and almost double doubles just getting 8, 9, 10 shots a game. Unless you a big it’s still hard to do but he was a non-big.
Barkley was better 90,91,92 and 93. Pippen was better than Barkley in 94,95,96,97 and I wil not count 98 due to the injury. Cieling wise Barkley was a tad better but that’s because most of you fools value point and nothing else. As good of a scorer as Barkley was Pippen’s defense was light years over Barkley and Pippens points would be historicly 7-8 ppg less than Barkley in the glory years. Sorry I’ll take Pip because of EVERYTHING Pip does that Barkley can’t.
It was but then like they have done currently, the NBA changed the rules for Jordan because they wanted to market the dunk much the way they're now marketing the 3pt shot so they laxed the rule to give offensive players an edge.
@@lifeallah8005 No no because Dr J got hammered a lot when he joined the NBA. Keep in mind Doc joined the NBA in 1976 and the game was rough and hard fouls were the norm when you went to the paint but as I said the NBA wanted Jordan as the poster boy of the league so they cracked down on rough play so that Jordan could dunk without fear of being hurt. Now the NBA is featuring and marketing the 3pt shot and they changed the rules to make it appealing. Everybody can't shoot like Steph Curry but that doesn't stop guys from jacking up 3s from everywhere.
It's just sad that such a great player became so delusional. First comparing himself to Thomas, then MJ. You were a great and underrated player, but for real, go to the park, Scottie.
Some players thrive in systems and some thrive with other players so in Scottie's case the focus of the defense was always on Jordan so that freed Scottie up but when he went to Houston and Portland, he was not the same player then he started calling Barkley fat etc etc because he was not the player he thought he was.
No PG Isiah's size (5'11") could take over a game on both ends of the court the way he did. He scored 25pts in he 3rd vs LA in the '88 Finals playing on one leg because he had sprained his ankle in the first half which Detroit was cheated out of because they had LA beat and LA knows that but they called a ticky tack foul on Laimbeer putting Karren at the FT and LA won/
No doubt and keep in mind Isiah is all of 5'11" and still he gave people the business. Check out the videos of Jordan guarding him and Isiah is torching Jordan and I think that may part of the reason why Jordan dislikes Isiah because not many people got the best of Jordan but Isiah did every time they played because John Paxson, Steve Kerr, BJ Armstrong and Craig Hodges could not guard Isiah so Jordan would have to guard him.
It's always room for Isiah Thomas pippen a hater now he saying lebron better than mike even said he was at on point smh pippen kids step daddy is a Jordan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
HERE in CHICAGO - We wouldn't have picked Isaiah either. See, it's SIMPLE. The guy talks too too too much trash and has an extremely "BAD REPUTATION". Name me someone on the Dream Team with even a 50% the reputation like Zeke's, even if we brought up Barkley up in the conversation ?????????? As talented as Isaiah Thomas was at the time and always being a LEGEND and YET still getting knocked off; from nearly EVERY NBA job he had, after his playing career - He's simply a "black eye to the NBA". In 2020 with him visiting Chicago, since this city hosted the All-Star Weekend........HE STILL TALKED TRASH. I'm like, you "really really keep it real, to the streets....don't ya" ????? Majority of Chicago hated him and his antics in 2020 just added on. IMAGINE WHAT FOREIGN FOLKS WOULD'VE SAID, IF HE "DID" GET THE JOB OVER JOHN STOCKTON ???????? (That's that guy)
Detroit's time run out plus Isiah had hurt his wrist on his shooting hand and he was done after that then he tore his Achilles about a year or so later and he retired at age 32.
The Bulls did defeat the Pistons but remember after that 1990 title, Isiah had to have surgery on his shooting wrist and he was done by then plus they had lost Mahorn to the supplemental draft so the team wasn't the same but people do not realize that the Pistons almost had a three peat had it not been for the ticky tack foul called on Laimbeer against Kareem in '88 because the Pistons had LA beat until that happened. So the Pistons would have won it in '88, '89 and '90.
@@phade2blaq dude, Bulls lost in game 7 because of Pippen MIGRAINE, so don't use that Isiah had surgery excuse. Pistons were DEFEATED by the Bulls when Zeke was only 29.
Detroit never swept chicago but the bulls swept the pistons in the playoffs!! After 1991 the Pistons NEVER got out of the first round so of course Jordan never had the chance to beat the shet outta Zeke again once Jordan got to his peak powers!!
Do people honestly think L James is anywhere as good as Jordan? I mean I’ll be honest I stopped watching basketball when M.j. Retired I figured what’s the point now. Magic, Larry and Jordan are all gone . But I’ve watched a good deal of his best plays and what not . I mean he’s pretty good and all but not on same level as Michael
@@winstonperra8070 he’s pretty good no doubt about it . But we are talking about two completely different categories. One is pretty good and the other being Michael is the breasted player that ever lived
@@Proudathiest1 Man quit smoking or drinking or whatever you are doing. You don't AVERAGE 26 POINTS PER GAME FOR 20 YEARS and not be GREAT. Jordan was spent after 13years of gunning. You need to stop watching basketball again if you can't see that,!!!!
It's funny after the last dance pippen said he'd pick LeBron over Jordan 🤣🤣. That's why everyone shouldn't be an analyst because their bias guides their opinions
Pippen said that way before the Last Dance but had to backtrack his comment cause of the public and of course MJ. I’m not saying he didn’t say more after the last dance but years ago he said that
He did say that but he's on a video bashing Isiah for saying it. Pippen has no morals and that's why the Bulls cheated him out of that money because he signed a bad contract because he's stupid and now Jordan's oldest son Marcus is dating Pippen's ex wife Larsa. I know that has to sting for Pippen LOL
When Isiah wants to diminish Michael's legacy, Isiah says how great scottie was!! But you often hear Zeke also say scottie was not a great player!! Zeke talks out of both sides of his mouth!!
Stop lying, show us a clip or quote where Isaiah said Pippen wasn't s great player!!!!! Pippen should have been left off the Dream Team. Zeke was an exciting player. Stockton, Malone, Pippen , Mullins were all BORING PLAYERS. Put ISAIAH and Dominique Wilkins on there and The Dream Team still wins handily, but they would have put on a much better SHOW.
@@Realdealrob NO teams feared Pippen!! They slapped Pippen around like a lil betch!! Oakley, Barkley, X-man, Ewing, Rodman, Lambeer, and more would intimidate Pippen!!
Zeke should have been on that team and that's the "real", but equally and enough can't be said about it ( because Zeke is still in denial) he burned that bridge, he made that bed, and he had to sleep in it. He took being "Bad Boys" too far and it effected his relationships around the league with the elites. I wish it had been different for him and for MJ ( MJ needs to let it go too, if he's truly the "Better Man" and super competitive, let that crap go and stop pouting and complaining about Zeke, like a little kid)? I can't stand seeing two Brothers, the tops at their positions, at each other's throat still, after all these years... add Scotty (the proto type, the original... Point Forward) to that list too! Brothers got to stick together or divided "we fall". Like Rodney King pleaded... Can't we all just get along? 🙏😁
@@rcdenson1 where is Jordan complaining about Zeke? In the Last Dance, he said he Zeke “was” an ahole for doing what he did. Where today is Jordan saying anything about Zeke?
@@depannist I don't know what MJ is saying about Zeke today but I doubt if it's anything different than what he just said a couple of years ago in "The Last Dance" series. The blood is pretty bad between them two and neither really seems to want to let it go, especially MJ who went straight to Vulgar descriptions when describing Zeke ( and tells you all you need to know. Zeke has his sly slick little ways of putting down MJ and the Bulls, but I've never heard him hurl insulting vulgar words describing Mike. I don't think those guys will ever get past that era of the late 80s and early 90s. When all this bad blood was created?
Oddly the only people who have been asked about how they felt about Isiah who played on the DT were Pippen and Jordan. No one lese on that has ever said publicly what they thought.
MJ cowardly lied when he was first asked about if he had anything to do on IT's exclusion from the DT. He was NOT man enough to admit what he really said on a phone conversation when asked how he felt about IT being on the DT
Wrong. Don't say things you don't know about. They were all asked, only some of them chose to speak about it. Among the people you left off the list was Magic Johnson, who also said Isiah would have hurt the team chemistry.
@@roneldeleon8704 did Steph lead his high school team to a state title game? No, Isiah did! Did Steph lead his team to a NCAA title? Isiah did, in less college time. Did Steph lead the USA to a gold medal in college? No, Isiah did before he even played his first college game. Isiah Thomas was a superstar at every level, including the greatest McDonald's All American team ever (1979).
@@arthurmorgan9944 add a NCAA title to that as well and MOP and MVP Awards for those titles PLUS the MVP of the 1979 gold medal game in the Pan AM Games.
of the big ones from that era, there was a Bird-Magic rivalry and all the rest (Celtics-Lakers and their hall of fame lineups) and there was a Pistons-Bulls. Both were very competitive...but the latter one was toxic and remains toxic. Is that bad? Do we have such emotions and controversy with current rivalries? No. Those 1984-1991 rivalries STILL get coverage and put asses into seats. Thank you Sixers, Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, and Bulls!
IT would torch Stockton, Magic, and Jordan in his prime. Larry Bird was not a guard. His Celtics teams were better than the Pistons until the Pistons matured and the Celts got old. Thomas's Pistons were better than the Bulls until they got old and the Bulls matured. Take a look at the timeline and the league expanded. That meant you could win titles with 3 guys instead of 6. With the expansion, the NBA had to take international players or downgrade to the weak CBA players. The Lakers didnt have the competition that the East had. Philly, Boston, Detroit, Chicago and the Bucks.
My Pistons paved the way for the Bulls to dominate. Bulls had no competition in the 90's. They had the Knicks really. We cleared the way for them taking out Magic & Bird
92 cavaliers were really good, 93 knicks, 96 magic, and 98 pacers, plus the 97 knicks were legit, people forget the series were the knicks players got suspended in the fight in the ecsf vs the heat, that knicks team was loaded and would have gave the bulls problems, yall trippin if you think the bulls had a cakewalk to get to the finals in those years
@@eddiewilson3724 all the teams you mentioned would have gave most of today's playoff/finals teams a challenge. I think some of yesterday's Eastern conference playoff teams would have won in today's game. I'm sure I'm going to be called an old head and I'm being nostalgic but I'm being honest. I have no reason to lie because I really don't care. It was just a different game and era I guess
@@eddiewilson3724 it was catered for Chicago... Nobody on the Knicks could dunk, except John... Both Jason Williams and the other Williams dude for the bulls bench was dunking all over the Knicks.. also Horace pippen Jordan Myers... Come on.. that's 8 players all above the rim.. the hardcore Knicks got 1 , 6'2"... Player
Isaiah Should have been on the Dream Team before Scottie!!! Scottie was only Great when his Daddy Jordan was on the Court! And Bottom line is The Pistons Ow n.v ed the Bulls for a way bigger part of t hff at Rivalry!! The only Reason they finally beat Detroit is they became Too old!!
Yes they were! People don't know but prior to Magic and Bird coming along, the NBA was on its way out because teams were becoming "Too Black" in the eyes of the White fan base and people had actually started cancelling their season tickets then Dr J showed up in 1976 and in 1979 Bird and Magic showed up and then of course there was those epic battles between the Lakers and Celtics with Philly crashing the party a time or two.
@@phade2blaq i knew all that & I also know the damn truth of why MJ retired in 1993. MJ was just so very lucky that there was NO social media during the 90s. All hell broke lose during the investigation of MJ's dads murder, what they discovered had to be concealed, & Nike who was MJs major sponsor then, literally spent MILLIONS covering up for MJs vices etc....... The NBA together w/ Nike joined forces to conceal all these (the truth) because the NBA could NOT afford to absorb a scandal that deeply involved MJ (who was the face of the league then). This is why MJ literally owes his life to Nike etc.....
I totally agree with Scottie and everyone know Isaiah is jealous of MJ, although Isaiah was great enough to be on the Olympic team the way his Detroit team played which was football. The Pistons during Isaiah tenure was playing to hurt guys which was and will never be what basketball was meant to be. I would like to say Isaiah behind Magic Johnson would be my second greatest point guard but the was his team played and they attitude caused him a lot and at some point he needs to understand and admit what everyone else understands.
The Pistons weren't the only team that played like that people were just mad when they started doing it and beating their favorite teams. Karl Malone busted Isaiah head open. Kevin McHale tried to fuck Kurt Rambis up. Robert Parish punched all on Bill Lambeer that's the way the game was played but they just didn't like that the Pistons did it and beat their favorite teams
Why was it football? Cause Michael couldn’t take it? If you knew what you were talking about, you’d know the Celtics and lakers of the 80s could get down and play like Detroit did. And your boy Michael couldn’t succeed in that era
Scottie Pippen is one guy who's totally honest about how he feels about IT. And he should feel that way because IT is a phony and they tried to end his career with football style physicality.
Most teams were but if you go back and look at the Celtics of that era, the Lakers etc they all played Bad Boy basketball but when the Bad Boys did, they were thugs and hoodlums because the NBA was upset that Detroit crashed the LA-Boston party and that was never suppose to happen.
Poor argument Luis, Malone was the star on that team and much better then those u mentioned. U clearly know nothing abt basketball if u think those folks were better then Malone
That clip from isiah cut to pippen on first take just waiting for his response was a little funny & a little awkward it was quiet as hell in there for a second.
Scottie Pippen was a much more thorough/complete player than Isaiah Thomas, any day and throughout both their careers!!! ...and Pip didn't assault anyone or try to hurt them and ruin their career thru injury. Most of Detroit tried to do just that and Isaiah was part of it!
Isiah has been on the reputation revitalization tour lol and I love it. The guy did some nice things off the court but individually to some guys and stuff on the court he was an absolute sneak and a snake. He was bitter as hell MJ took over Chicago and made it his city. That is FACT. He was jealous as can be of the bulls and his team was so dirty they had to change the rules because they actively tried to hurt players. Give me a break.
Keep in mind that John Stocktons prime and hayday were the years jordan and pippen were in their prime with the bulls. No one thinks that isiah or magics teams could touch the 90s bull's during their run. Why would the jazz not beating Chicago(the team most of us consider to be the Goat team) in the finals be the difference between isiah being better than Stockton?
Why does Pippen even have a platform? Without MJ he was nothing. How it go when MJ play baseball? How it go in Houston? Pippen like that mouthy dude who mouth off when his giant friend right next to him. We all know that dude.
How many rings does Scottie have? How many rings does Isiah have? Isiah's just butt hurt because people are remembering him for the kind of player and person he was then. He has a problem living with that now. If he didn't we wouldn't hear him crying about "Michael Jordan doesn't like me" Truth be told...No one wanted Isiah to represent the U.S in the Olympics and that was evidenced in the fact that no one wanted to play with him on the team. Jordan even said that Isiah's presence would have not been good for the team. He was a dirty basketball player and no one wanted that kind of player representing the U.S. Chuck Daley didn't even fight for him to be on the team and he was Isiah's coach! End of discussion.
Yeah they had good point guards but explain to me Christian Laettner on what was he great at college basketball? LMAO who was he supposed to Doctor Who? 😅
Pip made a great point though. By 92, Stockton was becoming a fantastic PG and Magic is Magic, so there probably wasn't much room for Thomas. The walkout didn't help that, plus didn't he injure himself at the end of the 91 season?
That's not true! Isiah was a team guy and stayed locked in with the Pistons. Now know this Laimbeer a White guy from an upper middle class home in the suburbs of Chicago whose dad was a company President but he was labeled a "thug" by the press and I'll give you one guess as to why he was. Because he was cool with Dumars, Vinnie Johnson, Isiah, Mahorn, Rodman, Dantley, Mark Aguirre etc all Black dudes. To this day Laimbeer has remained close friends with these dudes. I'd bet that the Celtics, Lakers and Bulls players from that era do not stay connected. I'd bet that they do not. I've heard Byron Scoot say that he hardly ever sees magic or Kareem or Michael Cooper so that tells you right there that these guys weren't close outside of playing together.
It Seems Like Isiah Thomas Disown Chicago In Every Way. Yea He From The Crib, But It Feels Like He’s From Detroit. Glad Jordan Basically Ended His Career. Couldn’t Beat Up On Jordan No More After He Came Of Age.
Were the Pistons a better team? Athletically, no (aside from Rodman). Mentally, from 85-90 I would say yes. MJ himself had said much later that as a rookie his 84-85 team physically were as good as any of his championship teams. Mentally however, they weren't even close. I mean let's face it, Orlando Woolridge should have been the missing link between Wilt Chamberlain and Shaquille O'Neill. Instead I give that one entirely to Hakeem Olajuwon.
Isiah and the Pistons beat LA and the Celtics when LA had Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Coop, and Byron Scott. They then beat Boston with McHale, Parish, Bird and DJ and they beat the Bulls with Scottie and Jordan so Isiah beat all 3 and none of them can say that because because LA lost to Chicago in '91 and Boston was done after 1987/1988.
They say Isaiah Thomas & Pistons got old. They were defeated like Scottie said. Dumars was same age as Scottie. Isaiah was only 32 when he retired. Isaiah acts as if he was far & a way the best player on Pistons. He was saying how he looked around when they named top 50 or 75 ever but he’s more disrespectful to his teammates than Jordan. Jordan always said he couldn’t win without Scottie. Dumars was every bit as good cause he played the best player on other team. He never guarded MJ or Pippen for that matter
The Pistons weren't old in age. They were run down, game-wise. They had been playing deep into the playoffs for five years straight. That's enough to run anybody down. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that even if MJ hadn't retired, those Bulls would've lost a Finals in between their 3 peats (assuming they'd even make it at all).
Jon Stockton was leading the league in ASSISTS since 88, man. Zeke won championships because he had a better TEAM, not because he was a better Point guard. Zeke was a better scorer than Stock but if we talk about being a pure point guard, Stockton definitely better than Zeke. And the Dream Team needs a pure pointguard because they already had too many scorers in that team.
Scottie Pippen doesn't make any sense. Isiah Thomas, a 2 time NBA champion and multiple year All Star and league MVP, wasn't needed? John Stockton never won any championships, Christian Laettner never did nor did he do anything as an NBA pro.The Dream Team didn't need those two. Isiah is better than both of those players and was better than Pippen too. Pippen was best known as Jordan's valet and didn't do anything after the Bulls team was broken up.
Isiah only hurt his chances because MJ told the coaches. He wasn’t going to play if Zeke played in the team. If you agree with Scott pippin you are very ignorant to the influence MJ had over the NBA. I am from Chicago. Isiah was our Champion and he played in Detroit . MJ was our superstar and he played for Chicago. But, what you don’t know is we all hung out together in Chicago. So, everyone know MJ dislike for Zeke because they forced the Bulls to put there big Draws on and fight to win . It shouldn’t have been personal but business . Magic was a flunky and two faced . They came up with a lie about Zeke and Magic felt some way really . Magic should have picked up the phone and asked the question. But know , Magic kisses MJ butt and turned his back on his best friend just to gain MJ friendship. That John Stockton mess Pipppen subject was a lame ass excuse to justify there dislike for Zeke and you believe that mess . Stop believing propaganda and read through the proverbial bull mess .
Both are just jealous of Jordan and his talent and success. It's that simple. They are both bitter and jealous. It's a shame because they are both hall of farmers that they have no class, but sorry boys. NOBODY is better than Jordan. Not LeBron, not Pippen, nobody. Closet anybody came was Kobe.
Isiah a joke to pick lebron over Micheal the closest to Jordan is Kobe Kobe and Jordan got alot in common and they play in the era when basketball was everything and tough
Isiah didn't and doesn't have to praise Jordan or Pippen. Isiah was the better PG over Stockton and Mark Price was just as good as Stockton. After the Jordan documentary Pippen received that same disrespect like he wasn't good enough from Jordan just like he tried to make Isiah feel. Jordan expects to be praised at all times and people do it. Jordan hurt Pippen after Scottie spent years bragging about him.
Kind of interesting seeing Pip defending Jordan in these clips when he’s dumping all over him now.
When Pippen viewed the last dance doc he was salty at how Jordan was portrayed as winning those titles by himself and Pippen knows that he played a vital role in helping the Bulls win but everybody wants to give all credit to Jordan.
@@phade2blaq just keep in mind that Pip got deeper into the playoffs playing w/o MJ than MJ ever did playing w/o Pip...just stating a fact.
@@renatolocsin2741 Well...yeah. He had Kukoc, Armstrong, Horace, Paxson, Phil Jackson and a whole culture that was predicated on standards. Jordan had drug addicts, Kevin Loughery, Stan Albeck AND the Celtics in the first round. The Bulls that one year had an aging Cavaliers. The next year...? 33-31 till Jordan came back, moving them to 47-35.
Now Isaiah is praising Scottie 😂 Thomas is a snake
@@TheSands83 Isiah would probably make love to the Varsity coach that kept MJ on JV.
Scottie voice sounds like if trees could talk!!
😂
You should tweet him and ask him to say "I Am Groot"
and now Pippen taking shots at Jordan cause he in his feelings about Last Dance
If these two saw each other at a cocktail party today, I'd back away if I were near them.
Isiah would destroy Pippen
LOL Isiah wasn't no punk and he'd fight you if he had to. He always bumped heads with former Indiana coach Bobby Knight and Knight said Isiah always reacted as if he wanted to fight when Knight would get on him about something and Isiah said I did because where I'm from when you get in somebody's face that means you wanna do something LOL.
Pippen would kick the dog shit out of that man.
@@phade2blaq Exactly. Isiah was nobody's fool. His intensity took over games. He was the scariest Piston in that era (well, aside from Rick Mahorn😂)
Isaiah is right about Pippen. Isaiah LED the Pistons to back to back championships and almost a 3 peat: Pippen meanwhile was Robin to Jordan’s Batman. He was the second player on the team and no match winner.
Scottie Pippen was robin to batman cause that’s what they got labeled. Mj won one single important game w/out Pippen in uniform after the bulls got him. Mj who gives no credit to anyone gave him one of his mvp finals cars. Pip made the game easier for everybody on those squads and they’ll tell you and he did while Mj was worried about scoring titles and who did the scoring. When Mj retired out of nowhere a few weeks before the season they won 55 games and got robbed in the playoffs against the knicks. Pip one of the best 2 way players to ever play the game w/elite D that’s getting u 20 while fighting for shots and can create for others as well as himself. There isn’t a lot of that since the nba began. The media marketing tool has dumbed the game down to where we call players 1 way players & 2 way players as well as people really believe 1 way good/great players are better than 2 way good/great players and more valuable when that’s impossible. They have hall of fame 1 way players rated over Pippen when he’s better than any 1 way player that can ever be named from the hall of fame on down. He’d make it harder on the 1 way guys than they could ever make it on him but he gets called a Robin. Even the way Isaiah who was raw talks about him and truth be told he’s not a better basketball player than Pip. Overall game isn’t even looked at anymore. When Mj played Pip was being called the best all around player in the game including Mj himself saying it after Dream team to Phil Jackson. The way tv sports media and image creation along with marketing is a lot of people get told what they see and sometimes to uplift some players others get underrated. Pippen & Klay Thompson are at the top of that list. They call Pippen Robin but Mj had to wait on him to beat Detroit. They won 55 games without Mj. Robins can’t do that
@jimmie parker Jordan, Olajuwon, Robinson, Malone, Barkley were all better than Pippen in the 90s. So definitely not top 5. In the 80s he wouldn’t have even been top 20.
@jimmie parker 🎯🎯🎯🎯
Even when Mj retired a few weeks before the season the core he was with won 55 games and people act like that means nothing. They skip that year and say what the bulls record was when Mj came back but they forget to add Horace Grant left. He underrated too. Guard multiple positions, was averaging double doubles and almost double doubles just getting 8, 9, 10 shots a game. Unless you a big it’s still hard to do but he was a non-big.
@jimmie parker Yup without Rodman it’s a wrap
Barkley was better 90,91,92 and 93. Pippen was better than Barkley in 94,95,96,97 and I wil not count 98 due to the injury. Cieling wise Barkley was a tad better but that’s because most of you fools value point and nothing else. As good of a scorer as Barkley was Pippen’s defense was light years over Barkley and Pippens points would be historicly 7-8 ppg less than Barkley in the glory years. Sorry I’ll take Pip because of EVERYTHING Pip does that Barkley can’t.
That was obviousely before Scottie starts bashing MJ in his turn !
I'm thinking same thing.... Scottie always taking up for MJ for years and now he doesn't like Jordan 🤦🏾♂️
TMac saw the future when Pippen was praising MJ
Isaiah Thomas was the one who drafted TMac, which is why he was looking at Scottie sideways when he made that ridiculous statement.
But now Pippen trashing Jordan so what gives.
that is why the 80s 90s is the best era of basketball..period
Well... It also proves how stupidddd Americans are also....
It's no purpose for hall of fame "basketball" players having fights about who is what
Agreed 100 percent.
It was but then like they have done currently, the NBA changed the rules for Jordan because they wanted to market the dunk much the way they're now marketing the 3pt shot so they laxed the rule to give offensive players an edge.
@@phade2blaq the dunk? Lmfao then they changed the game for Dr J .. Dominique n many more
@@lifeallah8005 No no because Dr J got hammered a lot when he joined the NBA. Keep in mind Doc joined the NBA in 1976 and the game was rough and hard fouls were the norm when you went to the paint but as I said the NBA wanted Jordan as the poster boy of the league so they cracked down on rough play so that Jordan could dunk without fear of being hurt.
Now the NBA is featuring and marketing the 3pt shot and they changed the rules to make it appealing.
Everybody can't shoot like Steph Curry but that doesn't stop guys from jacking up 3s from everywhere.
It's just sad that such a great player became so delusional. First comparing himself to Thomas, then MJ. You were a great and underrated player, but for real, go to the park, Scottie.
Pippen isn’t great
@@TL2354 pippen was considered better than Jordan . Mike just ain't miss
Lie Pippen is Great. He was a Co Captain 👨✈️!
Some players thrive in systems and some thrive with other players so in Scottie's case the focus of the defense was always on Jordan so that freed Scottie up but when he went to Houston and Portland, he was not the same player then he started calling Barkley fat etc etc because he was not the player he thought he was.
OUTSIDE OF MAGIC JOHNSON, ISAIAH THOMAS WAS THE BEST POINT GUARD IN THE NBA
No PG Isiah's size (5'11") could take over a game on both ends of the court the way he did. He scored 25pts in he 3rd vs LA in the '88 Finals playing on one leg because he had sprained his ankle in the first half which Detroit was cheated out of because they had LA beat and LA knows that but they called a ticky tack foul on Laimbeer putting Karren at the FT and LA won/
Bar none and in some ways he was better than Magic and Isiah had a high basketball IQ and not many people give him credit for that.
No doubt and keep in mind Isiah is all of 5'11" and still he gave people the business. Check out the videos of Jordan guarding him and Isiah is torching Jordan and I think that may part of the reason why Jordan dislikes Isiah because not many people got the best of Jordan but Isiah did every time they played because John Paxson, Steve Kerr, BJ Armstrong and Craig Hodges could not guard Isiah so Jordan would have to guard him.
It's always room for Isiah Thomas pippen a hater now he saying lebron better than mike even said he was at on point smh pippen kids step daddy is a Jordan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
HERE in CHICAGO - We wouldn't have picked Isaiah either. See, it's SIMPLE. The guy talks too too too much trash and has an extremely "BAD REPUTATION". Name me someone on the Dream Team with even a 50% the reputation like Zeke's, even if we brought up Barkley up in the conversation ?????????? As talented as Isaiah Thomas was at the time and always being a LEGEND and YET still getting knocked off; from nearly EVERY NBA job he had, after his playing career - He's simply a "black eye to the NBA". In 2020 with him visiting Chicago, since this city hosted the All-Star Weekend........HE STILL TALKED TRASH. I'm like, you "really really keep it real, to the streets....don't ya" ????? Majority of Chicago hated him and his antics in 2020 just added on. IMAGINE WHAT FOREIGN FOLKS WOULD'VE SAID, IF HE "DID" GET THE JOB OVER JOHN STOCKTON ???????? (That's that guy)
T-Mac reaction😂😂😂😂😂
TMac was doing all he could to keep from laughing LOL
"I wouldn't even say that they were old. They were....DEFEATED."
Man, Morgan Freeman is cold.
Detroit's time run out plus Isiah had hurt his wrist on his shooting hand and he was done after that then he tore his Achilles about a year or so later and he retired at age 32.
The Bulls did defeat the Pistons but remember after that 1990 title, Isiah had to have surgery on his shooting wrist and he was done by then plus they had lost Mahorn to the supplemental draft so the team wasn't the same but people do not realize that the Pistons almost had a three peat had it not been for the ticky tack foul called on Laimbeer against Kareem in '88 because the Pistons had LA beat until that happened.
So the Pistons would have won it in '88, '89 and '90.
@@phade2blaq dude, Bulls lost in game 7 because of Pippen MIGRAINE, so don't use that Isiah had surgery excuse.
Pistons were DEFEATED by the Bulls when Zeke was only 29.
a lie Isaiah was born in 61 mj was born in 63 Isaiah choose to leave early he knew he was defeated by the Chicago bulls
@@phade2blaqDude, gtfo with Isiah's wrist injury. He had the same FG%, assist and turnovers. And Mahorn wasn't even there in 1990
1:46 Scottie was NOT in the mood...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Stockton was no doubt a great player but he was not as good as IT.
Isiah was better at scoring. Stockton was an elite assist man, defender, and excellent free throw shooter, and three point shooter.
Pippen vs Isiah is like the first of four undercard fights during fight night. It's Batgirl vs Catwoman.
To say the pistons were old when the bulls could beat them is crazy cause they were barely 3 years older than the bulls 😂🤌🏽
Didn't the Pistons beat Chicago the year before Chicago beat them?
Detroit never swept chicago but the bulls swept the pistons in the playoffs!!
After 1991 the Pistons NEVER got out of the first round so of course Jordan never had the chance to beat the shet outta Zeke again once Jordan got to his peak powers!!
Do people honestly think L James is anywhere as good as Jordan? I mean I’ll be honest I stopped watching basketball when M.j. Retired I figured what’s the point now. Magic, Larry and Jordan are all gone . But I’ve watched a good deal of his best plays and what not . I mean he’s pretty good and all but not on same level as Michael
Well LeBron is so great u even mention his name here.
yes he is a all around complete player
@@winstonperra8070 he’s pretty good no doubt about it . But we are talking about two completely different categories. One is pretty good and the other being Michael is the breasted player that ever lived
@@Proudathiest1 Man quit smoking or drinking or whatever you are doing. You don't AVERAGE 26 POINTS PER GAME FOR 20 YEARS and not be GREAT. Jordan was spent after 13years of gunning. You need to stop watching basketball again if you can't see that,!!!!
@@hasanmustafaa7735 Spent? LeBron is still chasing MJ ghost and falling short
It's funny after the last dance pippen said he'd pick LeBron over Jordan 🤣🤣. That's why everyone shouldn't be an analyst because their bias guides their opinions
Pippen said that way before the Last Dance but had to backtrack his comment cause of the public and of course MJ. I’m not saying he didn’t say more after the last dance but years ago he said that
He did say that but he's on a video bashing Isiah for saying it. Pippen has no morals and that's why the Bulls cheated him out of that money because he signed a bad contract because he's stupid and now Jordan's oldest son Marcus is dating Pippen's ex wife Larsa.
I know that has to sting for Pippen LOL
@@phade2blaq yeah pippen definitely not the sharpest tool lol
Thomas was better then Stockton.
When Isiah wants to diminish Michael's legacy, Isiah says how great scottie was!!
But you often hear Zeke also say scottie was not a great player!!
Zeke talks out of both sides of his mouth!!
Stop lying, show us a clip or quote where Isaiah said Pippen wasn't s great player!!!!! Pippen should have been left off the Dream Team. Zeke was an exciting player. Stockton, Malone, Pippen , Mullins were all BORING PLAYERS. Put ISAIAH and Dominique Wilkins on there and The Dream Team still wins handily, but they would have put on a much better SHOW.
Bulls wasn’t anything without Jordan. Pippen was just his backup bf
@@Realdealrob FACTS!!
@@Realdealrob NO teams feared Pippen!! They slapped Pippen around like a lil betch!!
Oakley, Barkley, X-man, Ewing, Rodman, Lambeer, and more would intimidate Pippen!!
Scottie who???? Pip what???
BAD BOYS 4 LIFE!!!!
Oh, by the way, the guy at the end agreeing with Pippin gets no love!!! #BLOCKING!!!
Pippen
people hate hard. scottie is the same person who has been saying stuff about michael his running mate, right? nuff said.
It doesn't matter what Isiah says about MJ it will never make up for the fact he wasn't on the Dream Team he will never get over that sh!t.
Because people know he deserved to be on that team based on merit. He had won 2 titles and he was an 11 time all star so he deserved to be there.
Zeke should have been on that team and that's the "real", but equally and enough can't be said about it ( because Zeke is still in denial) he burned that bridge, he made that bed, and he had to sleep in it. He took being "Bad Boys" too far and it effected his relationships around the league with the elites. I wish it had been different for him and for MJ ( MJ needs to let it go too, if he's truly the "Better Man" and super competitive, let that crap go and stop pouting and complaining about Zeke, like a little kid)? I can't stand seeing two Brothers, the tops at their positions, at each other's throat still, after all these years... add Scotty (the proto type, the original... Point Forward) to that list too! Brothers got to stick together or divided "we fall". Like Rodney King pleaded... Can't we all just get along? 🙏😁
@@rcdenson1 where is Jordan complaining about Zeke? In the Last Dance, he said he Zeke “was” an ahole for doing what he did. Where today is Jordan saying anything about Zeke?
@@depannist I don't know what MJ is saying about Zeke today but I doubt if it's anything different than what he just said a couple of years ago in "The Last Dance" series. The blood is pretty bad between them two and neither really seems to want to let it go, especially MJ who went straight to Vulgar descriptions when describing Zeke ( and tells you all you need to know. Zeke has his sly slick little ways of putting down MJ and the Bulls, but I've never heard him hurl insulting vulgar words describing Mike. I don't think those guys will ever get past that era of the late 80s and early 90s. When all this bad blood was created?
Oddly the only people who have been asked about how they felt about Isiah who played on the DT were Pippen and Jordan. No one lese on that has ever said publicly what they thought.
MJ cowardly lied when he was first asked about if he had anything to do on IT's exclusion from the DT. He was NOT man enough to admit what he really said on a phone conversation when asked how he felt about IT being on the DT
Wrong. Don't say things you don't know about. They were all asked, only some of them chose to speak about it. Among the people you left off the list was Magic Johnson, who also said Isiah would have hurt the team chemistry.
Isiah Thomas is among the best super star players
No. Nevah .... Steph is greater over Isiah. AI is better than Isiah. Russell is better than Isiah. CP3 is better than Isiah
remember, jordan got isiahs thomas nephew to wear his jerseys. thats why isiah mad mad
@@roneldeleon8704 Iverson, Cp3, Westbrook, all 0 ring. Isiah Thomas 2 rings
@@roneldeleon8704 did Steph lead his high school team to a state title game?
No, Isiah did!
Did Steph lead his team to a NCAA title?
Isiah did, in less college time.
Did Steph lead the USA to a gold medal in college?
No, Isiah did before he even played his first college game.
Isiah Thomas was a superstar at every level, including the greatest McDonald's All American team ever (1979).
@@arthurmorgan9944 add a NCAA title to that as well and MOP and MVP Awards for those titles PLUS the MVP of the 1979 gold medal game in the Pan AM Games.
Dream Team = Mean Girls
lol
of the big ones from that era, there was a Bird-Magic rivalry and all the rest (Celtics-Lakers and their hall of fame lineups) and there was a Pistons-Bulls. Both were very competitive...but the latter one was toxic and remains toxic. Is that bad? Do we have such emotions and controversy with current rivalries? No. Those 1984-1991 rivalries STILL get coverage and put asses into seats. Thank you Sixers, Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, and Bulls!
It's the truth Detroit Michigan is my home town
Scottie go to the park.😂😂😂
LOL
Isiah will put the dream team in trouble
Half or the team do not want him
Period.
IT would torch Stockton, Magic, and Jordan in his prime. Larry Bird was not a guard. His Celtics teams were better than the Pistons until the Pistons matured and the Celts got old. Thomas's Pistons were better than the Bulls until they got old and the Bulls matured.
Take a look at the timeline and the league expanded. That meant you could win titles with 3 guys instead of 6. With the expansion, the NBA had to take international players or downgrade to the weak CBA players. The Lakers didnt have the competition that the East had. Philly, Boston, Detroit, Chicago and the Bucks.
Hey Scottie, we’re the Lakers old when you beat them?
Mullins and Laettner didn’t deserve to be on that team. Isaiah and Shaq did
I disagree w Mullins , I think he deserved to be on that team. He may not have deserved it over Isaiah though.
My Pistons paved the way for the Bulls to dominate. Bulls had no competition in the 90's. They had the Knicks really. We cleared the way for them taking out Magic & Bird
so you're saying the pistons were chicago bulls doormat? i agree.
92 cavaliers were really good, 93 knicks, 96 magic, and 98 pacers, plus the 97 knicks were legit, people forget the series were the knicks players got suspended in the fight in the ecsf vs the heat, that knicks team was loaded and would have gave the bulls problems, yall trippin if you think the bulls had a cakewalk to get to the finals in those years
@@eddiewilson3724 all the teams you mentioned would have gave most of today's playoff/finals teams a challenge. I think some of yesterday's Eastern conference playoff teams would have won in today's game. I'm sure I'm going to be called an old head and I'm being nostalgic but I'm being honest. I have no reason to lie because I really don't care. It was just a different game and era I guess
@@eddiewilson3724 it was catered for Chicago... Nobody on the Knicks could dunk, except John... Both Jason Williams and the other Williams dude for the bulls bench was dunking all over the Knicks.. also Horace pippen Jordan Myers... Come on.. that's 8 players all above the rim.. the hardcore Knicks got 1 , 6'2"... Player
@@kingoffyou3026 y’all just be saying anything online lol
Isaiah Should have been on the Dream Team before Scottie!!! Scottie was only Great when his Daddy Jordan was on the Court! And Bottom line is The Pistons Ow n.v ed the Bulls for a way bigger part of t hff at Rivalry!! The only Reason they finally beat Detroit is they became Too old!!
How true-Scottie Pippen couldn't carry Zeke's jock.
Put up head to head numbers and get back to me 🤣🤣
@@vincesavage3086 Please, don't flatter yourself, or hold your breath.
@@larrysmac so with that statement, scottie does have the better numbers. case close there.
You can't deny facts!!
Pippen is a 2face too ...He lately turned against Michael himself ...🤣🤣🤣
Pippen can't hold Zeke's jockstrap. Zeke is an ALLTIME legend. Funny how people forget.
80s and 90s are the best era in human history... Period👽👽
Yes they were! People don't know but prior to Magic and Bird coming along, the NBA was on its way out because teams were becoming "Too Black" in the eyes of the White fan base and people had actually started cancelling their season tickets then Dr J showed up in 1976 and in 1979 Bird and Magic showed up and then of course there was those epic battles between the Lakers and Celtics with Philly crashing the party a time or two.
@@phade2blaq i knew all that & I also know the damn truth of why MJ retired in 1993. MJ was just so very lucky that there was NO social media during the 90s. All hell broke lose during the investigation of MJ's dads murder, what they discovered had to be concealed, & Nike who was MJs major sponsor then, literally spent MILLIONS covering up for MJs vices etc....... The NBA together w/ Nike joined forces to conceal all these (the truth) because the NBA could NOT afford to absorb a scandal that deeply involved MJ (who was the face of the league then). This is why MJ literally owes his life to Nike etc.....
broke loose
Lets see how the pistons do in this era, the starting line up be fouled out in the first quarter:P
They’d make these vagina players cry
IT would've been vinegar in a bowl of candy for the Dream Team.
Jordan & Pippen vs Thomas & Laimbeer. Real Rivalry
I totally agree with Scottie and everyone know Isaiah is jealous of MJ, although Isaiah was great enough to be on the Olympic team the way his Detroit team played which was football. The Pistons during Isaiah tenure was playing to hurt guys which was and will never be what basketball was meant to be. I would like to say Isaiah behind Magic Johnson would be my second greatest point guard but the was his team played and they attitude caused him a lot and at some point he needs to understand and admit what everyone else understands.
The Pistons weren't the only team that played like that people were just mad when they started doing it and beating their favorite teams. Karl Malone busted Isaiah head open. Kevin McHale tried to fuck Kurt Rambis up. Robert Parish punched all on Bill Lambeer that's the way the game was played but they just didn't like that the Pistons did it and beat their favorite teams
Why was it football? Cause Michael couldn’t take it? If you knew what you were talking about, you’d know the Celtics and lakers of the 80s could get down and play like Detroit did. And your boy Michael couldn’t succeed in that era
@@vernlloyd772exactly. I’m a lakers fan and agree with u.
Speaking of being snubbed. Shaq should’ve been on that Dream Team instead of Christian Laettner.
Scottie Pippen is one guy who's totally honest about how he feels about IT. And he should feel that way because IT is a phony and they tried to end his career with football style physicality.
Scottie was scared as hell playing the Bad Boys...😅😅 Some of us was there...and Isiah always talked highly of MJ two faceted ass
Most teams were but if you go back and look at the Celtics of that era, the Lakers etc they all played Bad Boy basketball but when the Bad Boys did, they were thugs and hoodlums because the NBA was upset that Detroit crashed the LA-Boston party and that was never suppose to happen.
Pistons fans always saying that Isiah was old when the Pistons got swept by the Bulls in ‘91. So wouldn’t he be even older in ‘92?
I don’t agree Zeke was an American citizen not Ewing 😆😆😆
The question who would you pick if you build a team, MJ or LBJ ???
Stockton has the all time assist .
Thomas has dumars rodman
and stars.
Try watching Stockton highlights.
he also had malone duh
Poor argument Luis, Malone was the star on that team and much better then those u mentioned. U clearly know nothing abt basketball if u think those folks were better then Malone
They won without him. That's the point.
That clip from isiah cut to pippen on first take just waiting for his response was a little funny & a little awkward it was quiet as hell in there for a second.
Zeke shudda been on that Tim over Chris Mullins, furthermore Shaq shudda been there over Christian Laetner! I’ll drop my own mic
Scottie Pippen was a much more thorough/complete player than Isaiah Thomas, any day and throughout both their careers!!! ...and Pip didn't assault anyone or try to hurt them and ruin their career thru injury. Most of Detroit tried to do just that and Isaiah was part of it!
Zeke got left off bad and bougie
0:16 reggie miller "BUT..?"
After Jordan's son hooked up with pippens ex and scottie had a book.. he became isaiah.
this hatred for each other, makes these supposedly respectable sports heoes,unrespectables
Prime Bulls V Prime Pistons 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bulls be sweeping them bums
Isiah was way better than John Stockton. Please no comparison.
Isiah Thomas over John Stockton. Multiple times to the N.B.A finals two titles to none
Pip has changed his tune on MJ since this was shot,he hates him now
Now pippin says that Jordan was horrible
Isiah has been on the reputation revitalization tour lol and I love it.
The guy did some nice things off the court but individually to some guys and stuff on the court he was an absolute sneak and a snake. He was bitter as hell MJ took over Chicago and made it his city. That is FACT. He was jealous as can be of the bulls and his team was so dirty they had to change the rules because they actively tried to hurt players.
Give me a break.
Even Grant Hill used to destroy Scottie.
Keep in mind that John Stocktons prime and hayday were the years jordan and pippen were in their prime with the bulls. No one thinks that isiah or magics teams could touch the 90s bull's during their run. Why would the jazz not beating Chicago(the team most of us consider to be the Goat team) in the finals be the difference between isiah being better than Stockton?
Why does Pippen even have a platform? Without MJ he was nothing. How it go when MJ play baseball? How it go in Houston?
Pippen like that mouthy dude who mouth off when his giant friend right next to him. We all know that dude.
Bulls 6 Championships Pistons 2
How many rings does Scottie have? How many rings does Isiah have? Isiah's just butt hurt because people are remembering him for the kind of player and person he was then. He has a problem living with that now. If he didn't we wouldn't hear him crying about "Michael Jordan doesn't like me" Truth be told...No one wanted Isiah to represent the U.S in the Olympics and that was evidenced in the fact that no one wanted to play with him on the team. Jordan even said that Isiah's presence would have not been good for the team. He was a dirty basketball player and no one wanted that kind of player representing the U.S. Chuck Daley didn't even fight for him to be on the team and he was Isiah's coach! End of discussion.
Yeah they had good point guards but explain to me Christian Laettner on what was he great at college basketball? LMAO who was he supposed to Doctor Who? 😅
Pip made a great point though. By 92, Stockton was becoming a fantastic PG and Magic is Magic, so there probably wasn't much room for Thomas. The walkout didn't help that, plus didn't he injure himself at the end of the 91 season?
The dream team didn't ban Ishsa Thomas Thomas banned himself. He had no friends
That's not true! Isiah was a team guy and stayed locked in with the Pistons. Now know this Laimbeer a White guy from an upper middle class home in the suburbs of Chicago whose dad was a company President but he was labeled a "thug" by the press and I'll give you one guess as to why he was.
Because he was cool with Dumars, Vinnie Johnson, Isiah, Mahorn, Rodman, Dantley, Mark Aguirre etc all Black dudes. To this day Laimbeer has remained close friends with these dudes.
I'd bet that the Celtics, Lakers and Bulls players from that era do not stay connected. I'd bet that they do not.
I've heard Byron Scoot say that he hardly ever sees magic or Kareem or Michael Cooper so that tells you right there that these guys weren't close outside of playing together.
Pippen would of dunked the ball on Isaiah Thomas with Isaiah still holding on to the ball
Zeke was dominant Jordan didn’t win until Zeke magic bird got old
It Seems Like Isiah Thomas Disown Chicago In Every Way. Yea He From The Crib, But It Feels Like He’s From Detroit. Glad Jordan Basically Ended His Career. Couldn’t Beat Up On Jordan No More After He Came Of Age.
Were the Pistons a better team? Athletically, no (aside from Rodman). Mentally, from 85-90 I would say yes. MJ himself had said much later that as a rookie his 84-85 team physically were as good as any of his championship teams. Mentally however, they weren't even close. I mean let's face it, Orlando Woolridge should have been the missing link between Wilt Chamberlain and Shaquille O'Neill. Instead I give that one entirely to Hakeem Olajuwon.
They were beating you guys, Scottie > We were young 💀💀💀💀
Isiah and the Pistons beat LA and the Celtics when LA had Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Coop, and Byron Scott. They then beat Boston with McHale, Parish, Bird and DJ and they beat the Bulls with Scottie and Jordan so Isiah beat all 3 and none of them can say that because because LA lost to Chicago in '91 and Boston was done after 1987/1988.
@@phade2blaq the Pistons beat the Lakers with Magic missing half the series.
Ngl, I feel bad for Isaiah Thomas.
1:30 say WHAT??
They say Isaiah Thomas & Pistons got old. They were defeated like Scottie said. Dumars was same age as Scottie. Isaiah was only 32 when he retired. Isaiah acts as if he was far & a way the best player on Pistons. He was saying how he looked around when they named top 50 or 75 ever but he’s more disrespectful to his teammates than Jordan. Jordan always said he couldn’t win without Scottie. Dumars was every bit as good cause he played the best player on other team. He never guarded MJ or Pippen for that matter
Isiah Thomas had career-ending wrist surgery that he had a 1991... Because you and I know that he used to shoot the peel off the ball
The Pistons weren't old in age. They were run down, game-wise. They had been playing deep into the playoffs for five years straight. That's enough to run anybody down. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that even if MJ hadn't retired, those Bulls would've lost a Finals in between their 3 peats (assuming they'd even make it at all).
Isaiah was far and away the best player on the pistons. He was certainly better than Stockton. Pippin didn't belong on that team.
Isiah could take the team on his back and drop 25 points in the 4th quarter and win the game!
Isaiah used to drop the MJ off 😆😆😆 he taught mike how to pick his spots
John Stockton should not have got a spot over Zeke they bugging they wanna say he hating but they hated from jump
Jon Stockton was leading the league in ASSISTS since 88, man.
Zeke won championships because he had a better TEAM, not because he was a better Point guard.
Zeke was a better scorer than Stock but if we talk about being a pure point guard, Stockton definitely better than Zeke.
And the Dream Team needs a pure pointguard because they already had too many scorers in that team.
Isiah not move on. hahaha.😊😊😊
Scottie Pippen doesn't make any sense. Isiah Thomas, a 2 time NBA champion and multiple year All Star and league MVP, wasn't needed? John Stockton never won any championships, Christian Laettner never did nor did he do anything as an NBA pro.The Dream Team didn't need those two. Isiah is better than both of those players and was better than Pippen too. Pippen was best known as Jordan's valet and didn't do anything after the Bulls team was broken up.
No he isn’t…
Zeke the sneak!!
years later pippen says bron is the goat.
Zeke was better than Stockton......He shouldve been on the Dream Team.
Lebron is undoubtedly great (duh) but now there is no defense in today's NBA.
well they both have something in common they both hate michael jordan
Isiah only hurt his chances because MJ told the coaches. He wasn’t going to play if Zeke played in the team. If you agree with Scott pippin you are very ignorant to the influence MJ had over the NBA. I am from Chicago. Isiah was our Champion and he played in Detroit . MJ was our superstar and he played for Chicago. But, what you don’t know is we all hung out together in Chicago. So, everyone know MJ dislike for Zeke because they forced the Bulls to put there big Draws on and fight to win . It shouldn’t have been personal but business . Magic was a flunky and two faced . They came up with a lie about Zeke and Magic felt some way really . Magic should have picked up the phone and asked the question. But know , Magic kisses MJ butt and turned his back on his best friend just to gain MJ friendship. That John Stockton mess Pipppen subject was a lame ass excuse to justify there dislike for Zeke and you believe that mess . Stop believing propaganda and read through the proverbial bull mess .
listen to isiah on the "pivot" podcast. maybe you might understand the pettiness of some of these players.
Both are just jealous of Jordan and his talent and success. It's that simple. They are both bitter and jealous. It's a shame because they are both hall of farmers that they have no class, but sorry boys. NOBODY is better than Jordan. Not LeBron, not Pippen, nobody. Closet anybody came was Kobe.
Isiah a joke to pick lebron over Micheal the closest to Jordan is Kobe Kobe and Jordan got alot in common and they play in the era when basketball was everything and tough
Fuck no I’m with zeak, he should have been ion the team, 1 year and a half before he was the FMVP, smh 🤦🏽♂️
Isiah didn't and doesn't have to praise Jordan or Pippen. Isiah was the better PG over Stockton and Mark Price was just as good as Stockton. After the Jordan documentary Pippen received that same disrespect like he wasn't good enough from Jordan just like he tried to make Isiah feel. Jordan expects to be praised at all times and people do it. Jordan hurt Pippen after Scottie spent years bragging about him.
For telling what happened? Pip saw the doc before it came out.
Well Zeke exWife ain’t screw 50 Cent or Nelly and Start dating Joe Dumars son 😂😂😂😂
Why still hate I like both players think there both great players
I always thought Isaiah is overrated. Great player but not a legend.
Isiah > Scottie simple ‼️✅