I would also add, that if you use your laptop only for light work (like surfing or office work) and/or you are on battery, you can try to find a lowest possible value without PC getting too slow/too painful to use. Not only it will reduce temperature, but power consumption as well, thus your battery would work from some minutes to hours more. (P.S.: In order to Turbo Ratio Limits to work, you have to have Turbo Boost enabled & unticked "Disable Turbo" in ThrottleStop) Thanks for the video!
@@laptoptweakingtips hi i know its been a long time but please maybe on friday or thursday can we continue with the turbo boost tutorial this would mean a lot to me thanks unless this works please let me know if the tutorial bellow works th-cam.com/users/shortstIJEo4D4eNI
@@laptoptweakingtips hi i know its been a long time but please can we continue with the turbo boost tutorial this would mean a lot to me thanks unless this works please let me know if the tutorial bellow works and how to do it th-cam.com/users/shortstIJEo4D4eNI
@nigelphillips7454 I can maybe try help over the weekend. I'm working a job in advertising now, so I am completely spent during the week Hope you're well and happy new year
I find utilizing power limits more efficient than underclocking. By imposing the proper power limit you get max speed when the power demand is below the limit and whatever speed when the limit is hit.
its not bad yeah, but it can really screw with performance in more powerful cpus's also if you set it low, but then want to set it higher you have to reset your ini as it doesnt quite do so itself what cpu do you have btw?
@@fortnite_starxx5791 bro can i make a suggestion? try -85mv on core -70mv on cace 36 turbo ratio limits over all cores i think temps and juice wise that is the best combo for that processor if not, you can just always go back to tpl :)
@@laptoptweakingtips don't upgrade to another laptop :-) upgrade to desktop for better cooling. The laptop will always be power & temperature constrained :(
Generally speaking a good option BUT you forgot that certain cores can clock higher than others without a big temp impact. If you supply all cores with the same amount of power equally, those cores will be slowed down while other will still waste energy in form of heat conversion. So yes, you can do it like that but it´s less efficient than analyzing which cores are most efficient and only boosting those a little more instead. Despite that, it´s pertty much the only option you can do. If you have already improved cooling and done undervolting if possible.
Yeah it's mostly laptops that have been restricted my brother. Although I was trying to assist a guy with an 13900kf who has the same issue so I suppose it could also be manufacturer dependent
@@laptoptweakingtips hi please do you know how i can overclock a 12th gen locked cpu my laptop is hp core i7 1225u my ghz is 1.7ghz and need about 2 ghz i promise once you helped me that will be it or can you do it with setfsb or throttle stop or do you know tools i can use means a lot to me and can a system restore point created before it was done reset it thanks
Now i know why changing numbers done nothing. In FIVR i still have blocked Turbo Ratio Limits. Even after your guide video about cpu optimalization. :(
Yeah unfortunately if your computer has undervolt protection that method won't work at all. You can disable undervolt protection via a real grind, but then your CPU operates at 400mhz which is no good Have you tried TPL suggestion I made of 30 and 30? TPL is different to Turbo Ratio Limits. It's literally the last resort if all the other options aren't available
@@laptoptweakingtips now i know 37w cpu boost is for factory, that what HWinfo is showing. That,s why. And around 70tdp in total, so when gpu i doing 45w, cpu has only 25w room, and so on and on. What a garbage...
Yeah bro, so if it drops to 45... It should drop in the first couple of seconds. Set it to 44 correct 12th gen looks a little different to my setup, but I would assume it would be the p cores as they do the heavy lifting (ie when the CPU is under load) E cores are more for just run rate desktop when the CPU isn't under load
@@laptoptweakingtipsohh I understand.. but how do I know which of them are the p cores or the e cores? I have all the 8 cores section open should I set them all with the same number orr? Also I do know now how to do it because of you but what "FID" Does mean? I'm sorry I know I take a lot of your time xD
@@tacaio7 if it doesn't specifically say p cores, then it will by default display p cores I think the 12700h is an 8 p core and 6 e core processor But I might be mistaken Fid I don't know lol, I just know what it indicates not what it abbreviates haha! Lemme know how you go
@@laptoptweakingtips hmm the problem is it says 0 cores groupe 1 cores groupe..etc to 8 cores groupe I guess I will put the same number to all of them lol
@@tacaio7i think perhaps the 0 cores are e cores though i dont have 12th gen, so mine looks different to yours 1-8 must p cores try core 1 to 8 at 44 0 core just leave as is as mentioned earlier, you can always delete your throttlestop ini file and reboot if things go wrong just experiment with this as your guideline
Hi, i have lenovo legion with i7 13700HX, i was able to undervolt it to -120mV on core and i also limited max frequency, but wonder - is it now possible to use different power modes (performance, balance, quite) which are common in lenovo laptops? Because these alter voltages etc... I don't know, which settings will be prefered by the system
@@laptoptweakingtips thanks 🙂 the thing is, I cannot see any difference in quite mode. I am happy with its thermals even on default settings without undervolting, but lower temperature with UV can be seen just in performance mode and that only by few degrees while gaming (maybe 1-2°C lol), so I'm not sure wheter is not just margin of error. In stress test it's bit better, but still maybe just 5 °C decrease in performance mode.
Bro using my 13900hx processor when i run ts bench in fid column it is dropping to 15 average and I am not able to understand what;s happening please help
it may be the same but each cpu has different dye size bla bla so you could either undervolt further or less dependent on the luck of the draw but send me a blank email and i can send it to you if you want jfdalton29@gmail.com
Hey so I have an Asus Vivobook pro 16x with a 13980hx and it seems like everything is locked, even the Turbo groups and everything. I am new to laptop undervolting and all of that stuff. Is there anything I can do to get my temps on CPU down they are really bad right now.
In the description of this video is a link on how to unlock undervolting and turbo ratio limits. You have 13th gen but it's hx so you can possibly unlock undervolting, but definitely unlock turbo ratio limits Give that video a watch and let me know how you go Thanks for watching btw
@@laptoptweakingtips I followed the video in the description and it actually did unlock throttle stop! My temps are a lot more stable now for sure. It shows that the offset voltage is unlocked but I have it on -200 and I don't think it is doping anything. But the turbo groups is definitely working thanks! I know some people that have this same problem so I am going to link them your video.
A yellow lock appeared near the "non turbo ratio". now my turbo boost does not turn on, and the laptop only works at the base frequency. How can I fix it?
@@laptoptweakingtips hi can set fsb overclock or do turbo boost also can it be reset with system restore if i want go back to before it was created please reply me asap appreciate you helping me thanks
@@laptoptweakingtips hi can set fsb overclock or do turbo boost also can it be reset with system restore if i wanted to go back to before it was created please reply me asap appreciate you helping me thanks this should be all i need to know just in case will this ruin my pc
Thanks for all the help you gave me before bro but nothing works for me . I tried all the steps undervolting and setting low turbo ratio limits but cpu is always at 92-93 degrees. even cleaned the cpu and applied thermal paste didnt work. I don't have any hope now it isnt that laptop cpus cant take 92 degrees they can easily withstand those temps but still wanted lower temps as i game a lot. i will give a heads up if i find any other sol. thanks :)
@@avenone9916 yes but that was before I understood the 10300h better The clocks are set to high on that chip Undervolt Estimate ~ core -140mv Estimate ~ cache -99.6mv Turbo Ratio Limits either 39 or 38 over all cores Temps will come down dramatically then Also for good measure clean out potential dust from fans etc. This will get you covered 👌
@@avenone9916 are you still under warranty? Cos it you cleaned fans, changed thermal paste, undervolted and adjusted turbo ratio limits and you're still getting 93 degrees there is something wrong bro
Bro i found something I have 12700h When I set the max frequency of cpu speed (from power plan) to ultimate I got 86.496 point(960M Test) on TS Bench in ThrottleStop with 83c" maximum When I set it to 800mhz (notice: it's only apply on e cores, p cores still at max) I got 106.866 point with 78c* maximum And i noticed that the lower the maximum speed of the e cores the higher points and lower the temperature. So is that okay to set the e cores to only 800mhz for example? Or will cause a problem later? Please answer me. (Another notice: for all tests fan speed didn't increase more than 4000rpm except ultimade speed test)
@@tacaio7 the smaller the number the better As it means it's quicke to finish the benchmark Sorry been on holiday that why replying is slow and unfocused lol
@@laptoptweakingtips hi i know its been a long time but please maybe on friday or thursday can we continue with the turbo boost tutorial this would mean a lot to me thanks unless can this work will get back to you tommorow th-cam.com/users/shortstIJEo4D4eNI
Do a benchmark only a benchmark can tell. It might be a good solution since you are ot using te E cores much regardless but they produce exess heat. So by slowing them down a lot you can headroom for the P cores.
@@keiarazero5376 it's safe bro, as long as you follow the steps outlined you'll be fine Essentially youre changing a on value to off for both your overclocking and cfg locks In windows 11, disable bit locker in services, and virtualization in your bios This tends to block the unlock process 🤘
@@deckwizarunfortunately I picked up a laptop with the same processor and I am on the journey to finding unlocks for it. Not much luck yet but I was able to adjust turbo ratio limits to lower temps and stop thermal throttle.
Yeah bro throttlestop is for Intel Look into a program called universal x86 tuning Utility It's got similar functionality to throttlestop but specifically for amd
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I would also add, that if you use your laptop only for light work (like surfing or office work) and/or you are on battery, you can try to find a lowest possible value without PC getting too slow/too painful to use.
Not only it will reduce temperature, but power consumption as well, thus your battery would work from some minutes to hours more.
(P.S.: In order to Turbo Ratio Limits to work, you have to have Turbo Boost enabled & unticked "Disable Turbo" in ThrottleStop)
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching bro
Turbo ratio limits are often overlooked but oh so damn important 👌
@@laptoptweakingtips hi i know its been a long time but please maybe on friday or thursday can we continue with the turbo boost
tutorial this would mean a lot to me thanks unless this works please let me know if the tutorial bellow works
th-cam.com/users/shortstIJEo4D4eNI
@@laptoptweakingtips hi i know its been a long time but please can we continue with the turbo boost
tutorial this would mean a lot to me thanks unless this works please let me know if the tutorial bellow works and how to do it
th-cam.com/users/shortstIJEo4D4eNI
@nigelphillips7454 I can maybe try help over the weekend. I'm working a job in advertising now, so I am completely spent during the week
Hope you're well and happy new year
@@laptoptweakingtips what day please
I find utilizing power limits more efficient than underclocking. By imposing the proper power limit you get max speed when the power demand is below the limit and whatever speed when the limit is hit.
its not bad yeah, but it can really screw with performance in more powerful cpus's
also if you set it low, but then want to set it higher you have to reset your ini as it doesnt quite do so itself
what cpu do you have btw?
@@laptoptweakingtips i7-11800h
@@fortnite_starxx5791 bro can i make a suggestion?
try
-85mv on core
-70mv on cace
36 turbo ratio limits over all cores
i think temps and juice wise that is the best combo for that processor
if not, you can just always go back to tpl :)
@@fortnite_starxx5791 nice laptop btw - that is what im looking to upgrade to in a couple of months :)
@@laptoptweakingtips don't upgrade to another laptop :-) upgrade to desktop for better cooling. The laptop will always be power & temperature constrained :(
Generally speaking a good option BUT you forgot that certain cores can clock higher than others without a big temp impact. If you supply all cores with the same amount of power equally, those cores will be slowed down while other will still waste energy in form of heat conversion. So yes, you can do it like that but it´s less efficient than analyzing which cores are most efficient and only boosting those a little more instead. Despite that, it´s pertty much the only option you can do. If you have already improved cooling and done undervolting if possible.
Hi... Do you have any recommendations for i7-8750H ? 🤔
I have 12 gen 12900k cpu and I have no problem undervolting, it is just bios setting to turn off the restriction
Yeah it's mostly laptops that have been restricted my brother.
Although I was trying to assist a guy with an 13900kf who has the same issue so I suppose it could also be manufacturer dependent
@@laptoptweakingtips hi please do you know how i can overclock a 12th gen locked cpu my laptop is hp core i7 1225u my ghz is 1.7ghz and need about 2 ghz i promise once you helped me that will be it or can you do it with setfsb or throttle stop or do you know tools i can use means a lot to me and can a system restore point created before it was done reset it thanks
Now i know why changing numbers done nothing. In FIVR i still have blocked Turbo Ratio Limits. Even after your guide video about cpu optimalization. :(
Yeah unfortunately if your computer has undervolt protection that method won't work at all.
You can disable undervolt protection via a real grind, but then your CPU operates at 400mhz which is no good
Have you tried TPL suggestion I made of 30 and 30?
TPL is different to Turbo Ratio Limits. It's literally the last resort if all the other options aren't available
@@laptoptweakingtips now i know 37w cpu boost is for factory, that what HWinfo is showing. That,s why. And around 70tdp in total, so when gpu i doing 45w, cpu has only 25w room, and so on and on. What a garbage...
Hey nice video!!
I have gigabyte g6 with i7 13620h, what you recomend for power limits? UV is locked though.
i have a 12th gen laptop gaming but same
i have i5 12450HX , what should be the turbo ratios? As i wasn't able to understand you!!
Sooo first I have to do TS Bench then watching the FID
For example let's say the FID is 45 then should I set all the cores to 44?
Or only the p cores?
Yeah bro, so if it drops to 45... It should drop in the first couple of seconds. Set it to 44 correct
12th gen looks a little different to my setup, but I would assume it would be the p cores as they do the heavy lifting (ie when the CPU is under load)
E cores are more for just run rate desktop when the CPU isn't under load
@@laptoptweakingtipsohh I understand.. but how do I know which of them are the p cores or the e cores? I have all the 8 cores section open should I set them all with the same number orr?
Also I do know now how to do it because of you but what "FID" Does mean?
I'm sorry I know I take a lot of your time xD
@@tacaio7 if it doesn't specifically say p cores, then it will by default display p cores
I think the 12700h is an 8 p core and 6 e core processor
But I might be mistaken
Fid I don't know lol, I just know what it indicates not what it abbreviates haha!
Lemme know how you go
@@laptoptweakingtips hmm the problem is it says 0 cores groupe 1 cores groupe..etc to 8 cores groupe
I guess I will put the same number to all of them lol
@@tacaio7i think
perhaps the 0 cores are e cores though
i dont have 12th gen, so mine looks different to yours 1-8 must p cores
try core 1 to 8 at 44
0 core just leave as is
as mentioned earlier, you can always delete your throttlestop ini file and reboot if things go wrong
just experiment with this as your guideline
Hi, i have lenovo legion with i7 13700HX, i was able to undervolt it to -120mV on core and i also limited max frequency, but wonder - is it now possible to use different power modes (performance, balance, quite) which are common in lenovo laptops? Because these alter voltages etc... I don't know, which settings will be prefered by the system
If that voltage is stable in performance then it should be fine in all the other profiles
Nice laptop btw
Jealous 😎
@@laptoptweakingtips thanks 🙂 the thing is, I cannot see any difference in quite mode. I am happy with its thermals even on default settings without undervolting, but lower temperature with UV can be seen just in performance mode and that only by few degrees while gaming (maybe 1-2°C lol), so I'm not sure wheter is not just margin of error. In stress test it's bit better, but still maybe just 5 °C decrease in performance mode.
id say just stick to performance with the undervolt
but thats just me im one tracked when it comes to performance@@tomasoto1
hello can you help me with lowering temps i have msi gp76 vector i7 12700h ?
PhD in Throttle Stop🎉
hahahaha! i like that
did it help ya?
Bro using my 13900hx processor when i run ts bench in fid column it is dropping to 15 average and I am not able to understand what;s happening please help
what to do if the turbo ratio core numbers reach triple digits? do I just keep restarting my laptop everytime it happens?
do you share throttlestop ini? ı use same proccesor
it may be the same but each cpu has different dye size bla bla
so you could either undervolt further or less dependent on the luck of the draw
but send me a blank email and i can send it to you if you want
jfdalton29@gmail.com
Hey so I have an Asus Vivobook pro 16x with a 13980hx and it seems like everything is locked, even the Turbo groups and everything. I am new to laptop undervolting and all of that stuff. Is there anything I can do to get my temps on CPU down they are really bad right now.
In the description of this video is a link on how to unlock undervolting and turbo ratio limits.
You have 13th gen but it's hx so you can possibly unlock undervolting, but definitely unlock turbo ratio limits
Give that video a watch and let me know how you go
Thanks for watching btw
@@laptoptweakingtips I followed the video in the description and it actually did unlock throttle stop! My temps are a lot more stable now for sure. It shows that the offset voltage is unlocked but I have it on -200 and I don't think it is doping anything. But the turbo groups is definitely working thanks! I know some people that have this same problem so I am going to link them your video.
@@The_Shadow_Star yeah bro the more powerful CPUs function best with turbo ratio limits.
-200mv seems to much though
A yellow lock appeared near the "non turbo ratio". now my turbo boost does not turn on, and the laptop only works at the base frequency. How can I fix it?
check if the disable turbo option is checked, if it is, just uncheck it
i have 1140h cpu and turbo ratio limits is disabled how to enable it?
In the description of the video will be a link on how to unlock undervolting and turbo ratio limits my brother
@@laptoptweakingtips I see thanks for the response
Can I re-enable secure boot again after enabling the undervolting? 'Cause I need secure boot enabled to play Valorant 😅
yes bro
secure boot was just to be able to boot into grub :)
@@laptoptweakingtips hi can set fsb overclock or do turbo boost also can it be reset with system restore if i want go back to before it was created please reply me asap appreciate you helping me thanks
@@laptoptweakingtips
hi can set fsb overclock or do turbo boost also can it be reset with system restore if i wanted to go back to before it was created please reply me asap appreciate you helping me thanks this should be all i need to know just in case will this ruin my pc
Thanks for all the help you gave me before bro but nothing works for me . I tried all the steps undervolting and setting low turbo ratio limits but cpu is always at 92-93 degrees. even cleaned the cpu and applied thermal paste didnt work. I don't have any hope now it isnt that laptop cpus cant take 92 degrees they can easily withstand those temps but still wanted lower temps as i game a lot. i will give a heads up if i find any other sol. thanks :)
what cpu do you have?
@@laptoptweakingtips i5 10300h we talked already before bro few months back 🤣 after trying all methods it didn't worked
@@avenone9916 yes but that was before I understood the 10300h better
The clocks are set to high on that chip
Undervolt
Estimate ~ core -140mv
Estimate ~ cache -99.6mv
Turbo Ratio Limits either 39 or 38 over all cores
Temps will come down dramatically then
Also for good measure clean out potential dust from fans etc.
This will get you covered 👌
@@laptoptweakingtips i tried that undervolt my laptop got bod mid game and temperature were still hitting 93 degs
@@avenone9916 are you still under warranty?
Cos it you cleaned fans, changed thermal paste, undervolted and adjusted turbo ratio limits and you're still getting 93 degrees there is something wrong bro
Bro i found something
I have 12700h When I set the max frequency of cpu speed (from power plan) to ultimate I got 86.496 point(960M Test) on TS Bench in ThrottleStop with 83c" maximum
When I set it to 800mhz (notice: it's only apply on e cores, p cores still at max) I got 106.866 point with 78c* maximum And i noticed that the lower the maximum speed of the e cores the higher points and lower the temperature.
So is that okay to set the e cores to only 800mhz for example? Or will cause a problem later? Please answer me. (Another notice: for all tests fan speed didn't increase more than 4000rpm except ultimade speed test)
Honestly the e cores are for operations where performance isn't an issue. So unless you run into issues I think that would be fine
@@laptoptweakingtips so can I keep it on 800mhz?
Also is it better to TS Bench to take more time or less to finish the benchmark?
@@tacaio7 the smaller the number the better
As it means it's quicke to finish the benchmark
Sorry been on holiday that why replying is slow and unfocused lol
@@laptoptweakingtips hi i know its been a long time but please maybe on friday or thursday can we continue with the turbo boost tutorial this would mean a lot to me thanks unless can this work will get back to you tommorow th-cam.com/users/shortstIJEo4D4eNI
Do a benchmark only a benchmark can tell. It might be a good solution since you are ot using te E cores much regardless but they produce exess heat. So by slowing them down a lot you can headroom for the P cores.
I cannot change Turbo Ratio Limits on my 12700H, please help!
There is a link in the description on how to unlock it if it's locked 👌
@@laptoptweakingtips I just watched it, so I have to flash boot my laptop in order to do so?
@@keiarazero5376 it's safe bro, as long as you follow the steps outlined you'll be fine
Essentially youre changing a on value to off for both your overclocking and cfg locks
In windows 11, disable bit locker in services, and virtualization in your bios
This tends to block the unlock process 🤘
do not try plase it damage your device motherboard and also cpu
Everything locked in TS for me.. Only use turbo boost off sometimes.
I linked a video on how to unlock undervolting/turbo ratio limits in the description of the video my brother
@@laptoptweakingtips you're a legend!!!!!!
@@deckwizar shit didn't you see this video before? What CPU do you have?
@@laptoptweakingtips 13900hx
@@deckwizarunfortunately I picked up a laptop with the same processor and I am on the journey to finding unlocks for it. Not much luck yet but I was able to adjust turbo ratio limits to lower temps and stop thermal throttle.
I have r5 7640hs Not suport
Yeah bro throttlestop is for Intel
Look into a program called universal x86 tuning Utility
It's got similar functionality to throttlestop but specifically for amd
@laptoptweakingtips ahahahha sorry I didn't know, apparently I'm using a Ryzen controller 🥲😂
@@ArbeliaHanna no worries bro
I do recommend having a look at universal x86 tuning Utility
It gives some extra functionality