These Passengers Watched their OWN Emergency, LIVE!!
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JetBlue Flight 292 was a scheduled flight from Bob Hope Airport in Burbank, California, to John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City. On September 21, 2005, The flight-crew executed an emergency landing in the Airbus A320-200 at Los Angeles International Airport after the nose gear jammed in an abnormal position.
In this video I will be explaining the technical issue which caused the emergency as well as the decision making inside the cockpit. Enjoy!
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Sources
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Final Report:
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Proximity Sensor: aircraftsystemstech.com
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BSCU: Airbus 320 Theory
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SOCAL: cnbc.com
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Jet Blue HQ: J. Jeff Kober
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Zac Dean: IMDB
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Deadfall Poster: IMDB
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Foam Products: Yongqiang Alud
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Foaming Firefighters 1: bioex
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Foaming Firefighters 2: bioex
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Brace 1: MATT DUNHAM/AP
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Brace 2: Getty Images
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Landing Photo: Misha Erwitt/Polaris
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Stairs 1: UNKNOWN
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Stairs 2: FBI
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Gear Damage images: NTSB
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CHAPTERS
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00:00 - Intro
00:27 - A Little Maintenance
01:09 - The Flight Crew
02:25 - Self Testing / LUG Failure
04:57 - A Potential Problem
05:45 - A Unique View
06:54 - Low Pass Over Long Beach
07:51 - Holding
09:29 - What Can We Do?
10:58 - An Exemplary Crew
13:47 - Slide Issues
14:27 - A National Audience
16:04 - Approaching LAX
18:49 - Brace! Brace!
19:22 - Touchdown
21:03 - Microscopic Evidence
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At what point becomes an issue regular enough that it should be in the quick reference handbook? lol "Landing gear 90 degrees" seems like a contender!
There are no other instances of this happening sooooooo.....
the problem with services such as Blinkist is it summarizes any information according to the compilers own prejudices and opinions... therefore increasing the opportunity for introduction & propagation of falsehoods.
imagine if someone did a Blinkist summary about say, TH-cam on Aviation, what would it look like... it might be OK, showing aviators such as yourself & there work, but it also well might be a short summary of all the conspiracy theories a non-facts that one can find about how planes work and crash... the kind of videos 74gear taunts the ***** out of, and unless you are familiar with the topic, you will not be ever able to tell...
The ONE time the on-flight entertainment system decides to work....
jetblue have good track record for in-flight entertainment what
From what I remember about this, The passengers that chose to watch, had to sit there and listen to "experts" that the news stations had talking about how the plane could loose control, or the landing gear could collapse and the plane could become a "fireball of death". They kept coming up with all the different ways they could die.
It's the equivalent of diagnosing yourself with Google search except worse.
@@14112ido we're going to show the explosion in slow motion over and over for 4 hours.
How many times did Howard Cosell show Icky Woods break his leg in the superbowl? @@jameswest8280
Imagine being on that flight and hearing someone say "watch this plane having an issue" then you look out the window and see the plane your on
how could you look out the window and see the plane you're on?
@@bbhybris maybe looking at the wings? Or engine? That's the only things I could think of. Maybe they're also talking about the scenery (buildings, trees, etc) but haven't clearly portrayed that?
Nah, then you look at the inflight entertainment system 😂
“Here at ABC News, we’ve got our eyes in the sky at the scene. Chopper one can you get a close up of the front landing gear?”
Oh damn, that plane is fucked up!! Oh look at that! There’s a helicopter outside my window. What a coincidence. Wait…there’s a lot of helicopters outside my window. Hold on a second…Is tha-is that an ABC News helicopter?? Oh shit!
@@bbhybrishe’s sitting out on the wing he’s just built a bit different 😂
It's very hard for me to watch this as my daughter was on this flight. It was an agonizing long day for me...and my daughter too. They were up in the air for hours waiting to land. I will always & forever be so grateful and thankful for that pilot and the crew who did a fantastic job.
Lucky daughter
how is she doing now? does she hate flying now?
Sounds like all the passengers did their part too. Kudos to all on this plane👏👏👏
Oh wow! Thank God it turned out well!
❤🙏🏻
The crew seem to have done an excellent job handling this situation - both in terms of the pilots flying the plane and the cabin crew's communication with the passengers. It's a nice change to hear about an incident with a positive outcome.
Indeed! There are loads of them happening every single day but very few we have a final report from. That’s what people needs to understand.
Non-alcoholic drinks, interesting specification
@@toriless lol I wanna be drunk if I'm on a crashing plane. But I understand
To be honest, I've had many such positive messages conveyed by this channel. A big thanks to you Mentour, the lack of turning a real aviation story into theatrics is invaluable!
the fact that the recognized their excess fuel and used that time it gave to further trouble shoot and prepare the landing was applaudable.
They handled that stressful situation like true professionals
Good choice by the cabin crew to allow the passengers to call their loved ones. I'm especially fascinated by the way people respond to emergencies, and this likely helped calm the passengers.
I am a supervisor for a construction company. As a supervisor, you MUST know when you ahve "won" OR "lost your crew" when a job is done, if you GIVE the crew a break, you CAN take it away after a while. -If, you don't give them a break, they will TAKE IT ANYHOW, and you can't take it away.
Eventually, EVERYBODY with a Phoenix is going to call, so your better to give them permission, so they can STOP the calls.
Basic Human nature.
@@jackdundon2261 it's like the purge in LA rn
I wonder if anybody confessed to some bad deeds and then regretted it since no harm was done ;)
I think if they didn't you might have risked the passengers muting and just doing it but once the FAs lost control it was lost had I been on that plane I wouldn't have listened if I wasn't allowed to make my final calls I would have literally made them fight me
@@watISee what a weird thought to have.
I remember watching this landing on TV and I’m sure a lot of people thought that it was fairly easy since the end result was so good, I used to be an F-15 mechanic and there was an incident where one landed in England and the left main landing gear had broken and the wheel was pointed 90° just as a nose wheel in this case was, when the aircraft touched down it careened off the runway, the nose broke off and one of the air crew almost lost his arm.
The problem is, these seemingly innocent problems can turn into huge screw-ups if not handled properly or if more starts to go south.
People easily tend to forget that.
yea i can see how one of the back wheels like that would be a bigger problem just cuz if balance
@@Robidu1973 it’s human nature. We really have no natural reason to be as accurate at anything as pretty much all levels of aviation are concerned.
Looking back, would the "eagle" pilot been better off, ejecting?
In that specific case, would it be better to retract all the gears and belly land it?
Usually these cases don't really scare me but when it's something with my airport..
Its such a delight to when you're given plenty of time to solve a problem. No panic, and no little doubts about the best course of action.
Correct. Time is the ultimate luxury.
I bet the passengers were still frightened to the bone.
@@thany3 agreed. I would really like to see a companion channel to Mentour Pilot where we explore these incidents from the point of view of the cabin crew. I'm sure there are tons of interesting stories and lessons to be learned there.
@@AliHSyed Oh, or have a guest on a video who was a cabin crew member on the incident (ones like this where the final result was a resounding success) to narrate that parts involving the cabin. That would be great insight!
This was blown way out of proportion, it was a system failure, not a catastrophe. Damaged nose gear landings are made fairly routinely.
Excellent professionalism showcased by the entire crew. Stuff happened outside their control, but they did all they could within their powers to ensure the safety of everyone onboard. I guess this is one of the many reasons why flying is statistically the safest mode of transportation now. Thank you for sharing as always!
And **HUGE** respect to the cabin crew, who kinda sorta maybe in a way but not really bent the rules to allow the passengers a couple of minutes on their cell phones just before the final approach. Mentour touched on it, but that was, along with the cockpit crew's detailed plan for dealing with the emergency, a great contribution to a positive outcome.
good thing this didn't turn into a kobayashi maru situation.
I was watching the news, when the news broke about the Jetblue flight. I remember Jetblue was going to have to make an emergency landing at LAX. Since planes put their landing gear over my house, I ran outside and just about 50ft above me was the Jetblue with the landing gear problem, flying over my house. I could see the landing gear, and damaged front landing gear.
Glad everything 🙏 worked out.
my friend has a friend who was on this flight. he described it as terrifying. he thought he was watching his own fate. Also for my fav TH-camr, thank you for the terrific content. You have answered all my questions about EACH AVIATION ACCIDENT ever. I can finally tell my friend what really happened. (were like a tiny group) [me my friend and his friend]
The production values on this video are stunningly good. There’s no such thing as a bad Mentour video, but this one seemed like a level up. The plane/flight footage is incredible.
Thank you! Dom is a magician!
Yes, what a great video! I had seen others about this incident, but the photos and graphics on this video made it easier to understand exactly what happened with this nose gear. The visuals were stunning Petter! I don’t know, or remember, enough about the breaking systems(s) to understand what could or could not be used in this type of landing. But the actions of the entire crew shows the depth and strength of the management systems working, and I was really impressed by the fact that they even gave the passengers time to call their families. All the checklists followed, time used wisely, gives me such faith in the whole system.
I'd like Petter to narrate my life.
I agree. This video was absolutely brilliant. The production quality is truly impressive.
For once I’m confused the 3D rendering with the real TV footage. The detail is stunningly gorgeous and keep going better and better.
This Cabin Crew really are some of the best people to have in an emergency. Compassionate, intelligent, and calm in a bad situation. They all deserve every accolade available.
And yet passengers always treat them like trash when they are delayed or something else happens on the plane, this is one of the reasons why I decided not to go ahead with looking for working with airline companies as cabin crew
I remember sitting in my grandparents living room watching this live. My grandfather is a retired FO from Air Canada. While coming in for landing, he explained the technique that the pilots would likely attempt to land safely. I'm now a private pilot, so now I understand the technique they used is similar to a soft field landing. Keeping that nose wheel up on a Cessna 152 is challenging enough. The pilots of this aircraft made it look easy.
I was on a plane in a similar situation as a part of the science crew onboard. Different plane, sort of similar in size, but the pilots were not aware of any issue until right before landing and we had no alternate that would have made sense. The biggest difference was the runway was covered with snow/ice so the landing was much less dramatic due to much less friction, but the front nose tires were destroyed. The smell of the destroyed tires immediately filled the cabin during landing, but everything turned out well.
After last week’s episode, we really needed something with technical issues but no dire consequences. The overall quality is great as always, but I think that the animations and graphic aspect has really improved. Thank you and your team for making awesome content!
Thank YOU for watching and supporting the channel!
I think some of the videos use captured footage from X-Plane (older, not as good looking) and some use footage from MS Flight Simulator (very good looking). Maybe it depends on availability of models for a given aircraft type. For this video, the Airbus A320 is standard in MS Flight Sim, although it is depicted in the newer neo variant which of course didn't exist at the time.
Not a great idea
Imagine watching your inflight and looking at your friend like… isn’t that our flight? 😂. What an excellent result of a competent flight crew and excellent pilot, I watched this live when it happened. Great video as always!
Yeah, it would be quite unsettling for sure.
Glad you liked the video! 💕
When you switch on the inflight entertainment system and you’re the entertainment.
Saturday Night Live made a skit about the passengers seeing themselves on TV back when this happened, definitely one of the more novel things to happen in modern aviation 😂
Indeed!
@Mentour - question for you, and maybe an idea for a video - what procedures do pilots follow if there is a medical emergency onboard an airliner shortly after takeoff ? Let's say you have a passenger that is unresponsive, no medical doctors onboard .. I'm especially curious how procedures differ between aircraft - if you have something large like a 380/777 full of fuel, do you dump fuel and land? what about something small like a 320/737 that cannot dump fuel but is over max landing, do you have to burn off that fuel or do you attempt an overweight landing for the sick passenger? very curious what the polices and procedures are in these types of scenarios.
This is a command up grade Questions 🤣
I only hold a PPL, so I'm not sure what the official procedures are for a large aircraft, but if it were me in command, I'd attempt an overweight landing if the pax condition was rapidly deteriorating and I didn't think there was enough time to dump or burn off excess fuel (though I'd still dump as much fuel as possible during the approach right up until final)
If fuel dumping wasn't an option and the pax was in really bad shape, then I'd find the longest runway in the local area and try to land on it with the minimum possible vertical speed
Go for the destination regardless..
@@erkinalp no, that would not work
This happened to a Qantas flight from Perth to (I think) Melbourne. They had a medical emergency on board and diverted to Adelaide. Unfortunately the passenger was declared dead on arrival and the body was removed and the flight continued to its destination an hour later. I don't know anything about its weight and fuel status but going from Perth to Adelaide I would think that they would have burned off enough fuel to be under MLW.
I've always been a fan of the TV series Mayday but actually getting a break down from a pilot is so much better
So happy you think so!
MP told and illustrated this event so well that I became surprisingly emotional as he talked about the cabin crew allowing the passengers to call their loved ones and narrated the landing showing the passengers in the emergency landing position.
I remember watching this on TV! Letting passengers use their phones to talk with friends and family was so awesome and smart. There are times when rules are counter-productive. Breaking the rules prevented panic, made the passengers feel more involved, and probably saved JB some $$ in potential lawsuits or bad press.
Minor correction: Miramar and Edwards are two different air bases. Miramar is a US Marine Corps base (made famous in its Navy days as the home of Top Gun), located in San Diego. Edwards is an Air Force installation located about 150 miles north in the high desert, famous for being an alternate Space Shuttle landing site as well as testing grounds for a lot of new military aircraft designs.
There's been a fair number of A320s having twisted nose gears - recently there was one in late March involving a LATAM A320, last year a Batik A320, in 2019 it happened with Asiana, and in 2018 a Peach A320.
Yep, I’m covering these in my Mentour NOW! video which will be released this week. Make sure you have subscribed to that channel
@@MentourPilot i checked out your other channel the last time you mentioned it, and not much later i decided to subscribe.
@@mrxmry3264 awesome! 💕
The Airbus should have known better to revise the landing gears if this happened more than once.
@@streettrialsandstuff Reminds me about how NASA dismissed the issues with the Orings because every time there was the problem, the Shuttle flew just fine. That is, until the time it didn't...
Me and my workmates were enjoying Happy Hour in downtown Long Beach when this event occurred. We were watching on TVs along with everyone else but we also saw the plane fly by right where we were sitting! The whole thing took a long time so it must have been quite stressful for the passengers. Hats off to everyone involved in the successful outcome. And a good Mentour video as usual.
Yeah, this was quite an event when it happened.
Glad you liked the video.
I can’t believe this was 16 years ago. I remember watching this whole thing live like it was just a little while ago lol. Great video and breakdown as usual!
The Captain, Co Pilot, and Crew along with the ground communication were incredible in getting the plane safely grounded with no fatalities!! This was a great video to watch during Easter weekend and I love hearing about survival stories like this. It makes my heart happy. I wish every story could have a happy ending and thank you for all the hard work you put into this video and the rest of them!! I hope you had a happy Easter!!!
Always loved flying JetBlue. Seeing how professional everyone was who was involved in this certainly makes me even more comfortable with them.
Good stuff! It’s nice to see how pros work
Same here. Nothing but great experiences.
Same here TrueBlue
Sometimes professionalism of the crew can make a difference between easy accident and catastrophic accident. Thank you for for the reliable and excellent coverage.
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Well done, it's big enough to attract the bots!
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@@chaimbar1171 They should've pressed the reply button, they didn't mean you.
@@Stettafire i hope so..
@@chaimbar1171 I thought it was me
SNL did an absolutely hilarious skit based on this situation. At the time I hadn’t heard of the real story and thought that the 90-degree angle of the landing gear was just their crazy imagination. Of course later I did find out that had actually happened; I’m really glad to hear the complete story here. Such great professionalism from the flight and cabin crew!
Wow this was one of the most impressive aviation stories that I wasnt expecting! I was so emotional for everyone’s safety as they were preparing the landing, what a heroic story. Passengers, pilots, crew, controllers, first responders, all did everything they could so that they may reach this happy conclusion and a safe landing.
My daughters training to be flight crew soon. I’ve told her how watching you break these down gives me more hope. There was a terrible local accident me and I’ve been scared to fly since then Thank you for your videos
Send her my warm regards and best of luck with her training.
In my younger days I thought stewardesses and stewards were only there to serve food and drinks.
Since I began bingewatching aviationvideos I know their primary task is the safety of the plane. The waiter-part of their duties is the least one.
And sometimes I wondered why a plane needs flightattendants at all if they don't serve meals or drinks.
Now I know there have to be at least two to cover the forward exits and the back exits.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg it's normally one flight attendant to every 50 (or part of 50) passengers. A plane that seats 150 passengers needs 3 cabin crew, a plane that seats 151-200 would need 4, etc.
Mentour Pilot oh I will Peter , she will be so grateful.
The worst thing about this story is hearing that they stopped serving alcohol, if there was ever a time to start drinking this was it.
Actually even on a normal day getting a drink on a JetBlue flight is harder than completing the 12 labors of Hercules.
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LMAO
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Alcohol is a blood thinner so injuries would have been worse if they would have needed to evacuate
@@i_am_bisexual_or_something3132 Agreed and Alcohol can also improve a sense of humour.
This episode showcases an absolutely textbook handling of an emergency situation for which no textbooks had been written yet. Amazing professionalism (and a nice touch of understanding from the cabin crew) from everyone involved.
And yes, I _would_ like to know more!
I let out a cheer when you said they ended bang on the center line! Brilliant work by the pilots and crew all around. So glad this had a happy ending!
The detail, structure, analysis, breakdown, depth, communication and visual representation in all aspects of these video’s are next to none I’ve seen on the internet ever before. It’s professional, direct, informative and most of all, entertaining. Petter, we’ve spoken before so you know how much I appreciate these videos.
Keep these coming. Yet another great job from you and your team 👏
Thank you! We are striving to produce the best possible content we can. Glad to hear you appreciate it! 💕💕
I was at work the day that happened, I was working at RadioShack which had a full satellite TV hookup from dish Network and I was tuned into probably the same channel the folks on the airplane were watching. what an amazing landing!
Yeah, it was a well executed emergency for sure.
Can’t believe i’m crying because of how amazing the flight crew and cabin crew are in this incident.
Mentour pilot #1. Can’t get enough, I work in film industry and your production value is brilliant seeing how it’s come through the years is really cool your team must be amazing
This is the best aviation channel anywhere. With meticulous research, excellent production values, painstaking source and chapter list, and your own experience, you tell a *damn good story*!
Thank you so much! 👍🏻👍🏻💕
Shoutouts also should go out to 74Gear Kelsey .. and Dutch Pilot Girl ..
@@TregMediaHD I heartily agree! (I just like Petter's the best. 😉)
This must have been absolutely terrifying for the passengers onboard
Years ago I would have been terrified because I was afraid of planes as a kid. These days I'd feel a little stressed hoping the plane dosen't angle into the dirt, but that would be my only fear.
Probably the worst thing for the passengers was tuning onto the fear mongering news and listening to their "experts" pull at straws trying to explain every way possible the plane can explode and kill everyone.
@@volvo09 that happened once. remember TWA800? frayed wiring going through the center tank created a spark, and BOOM!
mentour, have you covered this one? i can't remember.
Being able to see it from outside dosent make any useful difference.
So sit back and enjoy the show.
I don't like flying because every time I board I'm thinking that I might die this time. However, I would not be terrified if there was a landing gear problem. I've seen so many accident investigations with landing gear problems and I don't remember any non survivable ones.
@@dougaltolan3017 Who are you replying to?
It was actually really strange. I used to have really bad anxiety on airplanes- but before my class trip overseas to Europe when I was still in highschool, I binged Air Emergency on NatGeo. It actually reduced my anxiety.
Can’t do anything for the fear of heights, though.
Amazing job by the pilots and the crew. Also by the passengers for not losing their composure!
I remember watching this when I was 10 years old amazing! I hope that pilot got a HUGE raise after that incident if not he sure deserved one!
It’s actually for situations like this we are getting well paid to start with.
The normal, good days are bonus!
I remember being on the edge of my seat watching this live, and my relief when the airplane came to stop safely. The whole thing made everyone feel so good.
I was working at LAX Administration (Airport Operations Division) when this incident occurred. The JetBlue flight crew decided to burn some fuel to lower the landing weight of the aircraft. During this time, LAX emergency personnel staged fire rescue equipment along the side of the runway and waited for the aircraft to make an emergency landing on Runway 25L on the south side of the airport. Runway 25L is LAX's preferred emergency landing runway since it is approximately 11,000 feet long and the only LAX runway that is 200 feet wide. The other three LAX runways are 150 feet wide. LAX emergency personnel also established a command post inside one of the fire station apparatus bays.
Due to the angle of the two nose gear tires in relation to the centerline of the aircraft, almost everyone at the command post believed that the nose gear strut would fail and collapse, sending the front of the aircraft onto the runway during landing rollout. However, due to the pilot's skills and the procedures they used described in this video, the nose gear strut did not fail and the aircraft did not depart the runway upon landing.
After the aircraft was secured and towed to a hangar, an inspection of the runway surface revealed very minimal pavement scaring and no in-pavement runway centerline lights were damaged. Overall, the emergency was handled perfectly given the circumstances.
The crew are heros. I salute them. Every member and especially the flight attendants.
Yes I know all about this one I was in MCC that day. I'm an ex maintenance controller from jetblue. As your report goes there was other issues prior to JFK. Anyway keep up the awesome work.
Yeah, I can imagine but it wasn’t covered in the final report. Thank you!
A great narration. And kudos to those pilots. Fantastic and professional job.
Thank you! Yes, they did a great job
I'm a proud very very proud JetBlue employee before and especially after hearing about this story . Great job JB crew absolutely amazing training went into this being so successful as well as the exceptional skill Scott Burke ( the Pilot ) has . I work at RDU airport, This was so uplifting to hear about so thank you for sharing and giving us all the narration of factual information we needed to understand what all went into this emergency landing.
Cute pfp❤
Wow, everyone did everything right and it worked out. I also love how you said "Santa Catalina."
I have waited for quite a while to finally see this story from your perspective. Keep up the good job I'm a huge fun
I’m looking forward to hear what you think, after the video.
Happy Easter!
I'm amazed that the nose gear assembly held up while it was skidding down the runway. That had to be a huge amount of shear forces acting k on the leg, the linkages and the mounts.
That's what I was thinking. The forces would have been much greater than those normally experienced in even a bad landing, and those forces were acting for much longer than they would during a bad landing. Amazing that the nose gear stayed on the aircraft!
The forces aren't actually as unusual as you'd think. Specifically, when you slam on the wheel brakes to the point where the wheels lock and the vehicle skids, you're essentially doing the same thing. But even just braking fairly hard but not skidding is quite close in terms of force transmission up from the wheel to the rest of the vehicle. Obviously, the gear is designed to handle this.
The vulnerable thing is probably the tires themselves, which, while they're designed for this sort of force transfer during braking, are designed for it to happen in line with the direction of rotation, not sideways. Also, steering could have been an issue if the wheel was stuck at a shallower angle - it would try to steer the plane right off the runway!
The fact how you were able to completely re-create the accident in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 is absolutely amazing. Keep up the great work and I'm hoping to see videos just like these.
Excellent video as always! One slight correction at 11:06 your map correctly identifies the recommended landing at MCAS Miramar but the voice over indicates Edwards AFB which is located in the Lancaster/Palmdale area where B6 292 had been orbiting during their initial fuel burn.
Socal local here, i noticed the same small error. Still an excellent video.
Would you ever consider doing a video about your aviation career where you talk about the types of aircraft flown, your total air hours and hours on each type? I think it would be interesting
Yes!
crazy. Well done, Petter.
Thank you!
Most who have a phobia for planes or plane crashes hate watching them…but here’s me on your video watching a plane crash and has a massive phobia
Fascinating!! The quality of your work is astonishing!! Thanks ♥️♥️
Hearing all the preparations that the crew did here sends shivers down my spine. That presence of mind and cold-headedness is, for lack of a more specific word, just beautiful.
If I had seen this live on the news, I'm pretty sure I'd have been swept along into the general terror and would have barely dared to fly again. And I've never been a nervous flyer (even that one time when I saw one of the cabin crew twist in her seat to direct a concerned sort of look at the cockpit ...).
This side of the story, though? Yeah, I low-key can't wait to get on a plane again. 🙂
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The crew did a very great job that I literally clapped when you said the aircraft landed and stopped right on the centre line.
I remember watching this live. It was wild. The pilots did a phenomenal job.
Sometimes in these vids it seems like the pilots and crew and the people on the ground all have no idea what they're doing....this time it seems like everyone was 110% on the ball and reacted perfectly to the problem. Nice!
This is the norm, remember that hundreds of thousands of flights land safely every day because the crew manage any problem that comes before them. Accidents and incidents are very rare and often handled well. Accidents are supremely rare.
After being trained as an industrial firefighter in both a refinery and chemical plants (at both college and Texas A&M University fire school) I have had plenty of hands on firefighting foam training. I am not sure about the foam today but back a few decades ago the foam was made mainly from chicken feathers, It does a great job of containing hydrocarbon fires and can be hard to get at times. I am not sure about airports but in industrial settings often times if there are major fires at one location, many facilities nearby will loan foam to the effected refinery/ chemical plant. Thank God this flight had a very wise flight crew and handled everything in such a professional manner.
I've come across this case by coincidence some months ago due to another video where some passengers were interviewed, and I've watched it repeatedly because it was such an uplifting and moving experience.
When I read the title of your video, I knew immediately what flight it was about. I just had to click, despite being so familiar with the other video already. Surprisingly, I still learned so much more about the flight and the issue the plane had. Says a lot about the quality of your work! I highly appreciate your effort and am so glad that I subscribed to your channel. :)
Your videos are being better everytime. The material are so great. It is easy to follow. And No music or effects that makes it more dangerous then it is. Had never heard about this flight.
Just discovered your channel and I must say as an aviation enthusiast…your graphics, story telling, and just attention you o detail is amazing! Have literally stayed binge watching all your videos! Keep up the good work. subbed
Glad to hear that, welcome to the channel!! 💕
I've been watching and learning from your channel for years now. The quality of this video is a leap forward from what was already really solid TH-cam content. Great job, and kudos to you and your team. I know it's a lot of work to put out content so prolifically and I really appreciate it. It's a highlight in my week when I get to watch new Mentour content.
That same day I landed somewhere in USA from Europe ( sorry, I don't remember where I was )and as soon as I got to my hotel I turned on the TV. They were broadcasting live the final approach of this flight. I still remember how I was glad I had just safely landed!
What kind of recognition do the Flight crew get after this kind of incident? If I was on that plane I'd want to personally thank them for saving my family's lives. Does this ever happen?
Also, your channel is one of the most interesting and informitive I've had the pleasure of enjoying. Excellent work.
The pilot and crew handling this kind of pressure and working things out so beautifully was amazing to watch! ❤
You’re an exceptional teacher mate, and they were an exceptional crew. Brilliant work all round. Thank you.
Oh im loving this video, i remember this very strongly since i live near this area and would fly out of this airport quite frequently on jetblue, seeing same style of plane i had boarded many times live on air was weird enough i can’t imagine watching it on the in flight
Yes! I used to live in LA and Burbank! I feel the same way!
I was living in LA when this event happened. Truly amazing to watch.
A couple corrections about this video. Palmdale, not Palmsdale, is 90 miles north of LA, and is where several aerospace assembly facilities are located. Edwards AFB, a flight test center and where the Space Shuttle used to land, is north of Palmdale, a long long way from San Diego.
He actually combined Edwards AFB with Miramar as if it were the same.
I am hooked on your videos!
Usually I love to research and learn about air crashes and emergencys but these are the most detailed and explained videos I found so far.
Great job and thanks for doing it😊
I remember this vividly. Saw it on TV as well in school.
The passengers of American 191 had a live camera feed from the vertical stabilizer (I think, maybe the nose) projected onto the cabin IFE system. Must’ve been a scary first person view of their short flight.
That sounds horrendous. It must have been terrifying for those people. 😟
I’ve always hoped the camera feed to the American 191 passengers was cut once the engine fell off, but we’ll never know. 🙁
Passengers had Channel 9 ATC for most of the Sioux City UA 232 accident as well.
Wikipedia says the camera was mounted behind the captain
I understand why they probably turned off the screens in the plane but I feel like the passenger should have the choice to watch since they were on individual chair backs. But I get the crew didn't want any panic from the passengers
I don't think avoiding panic was the main reason for turning off the in-flight entertainment. When making an emergency landing, especially one as serious as this, you want your passengers to be focused on the situation so they can get out rapidly if the landing didn't go as well as it did. Imagine the landing going horribly wrong, and passengers seeing that on the screen in front of them... not only would they panic, they would likely not be paying enough attention to their own immediate surroundings to evacuate immediately.
Very CONSIDERATE FOR PASSENGERS GREAT PILOT
Love it, Petter. Absolutely brilliant video, as always. I was actually in a motel in Chino when this happened. Me and a bunch of friends were watching it live. Those pilots did an amazing job
This is my home town of Burbank we lived very close to the airport - I have flown out of Burbank airport scores of times. I remember seeing this live on TV
Great review. I was an A320 captain based at LAX at the time. I was at the airport that day. Lot's of "buzz" obviously. I'm rusty now, but as I recall, the failure of the steering lug was caused by their pushback procedures. If the tug and towbar forced the nosewheel to make a sharp turn with hydraulic power to the steering it could damage the steering lug.
Captain if steering hydraulics is turned on when a tow bar is connected the hydraulics shears the tow bar "shear pins" like a hot knife through warm butter. No damage to the nose gear that I'm aware of. In fact I think sometimes the shear pins break on their own after so many uses. A fail safe device. As you know, they have to use the steering bypass pin during towing. However, there is a red line on the side of the plane that the tow bar can not go past otherwise it would do two things....shear the shear-pins and possibly damage the steering unit. The centering lugs wouldn't be engaged with weight on the strut. The strut only fully extends after takeoff.
@@rael5469 Yes. I agree, but there are other factors.
I just looked at the A320 flight manual to refresh my memory.
Prior to pushback the ECAM memo message NW STRG
DISC must be displayed.
PLus: It has a turning limit for the ground crew of 85 degrees and hits the mechanical stop at 95 degrees. Beyond that breaks stuff. lol
Per the FM, TOWING OPERATIONS
Note: The following limitations are contained in the Airbus AFM Limitations
section. ◘ This limit cannot be monitored from the flight deck. Ground
handling personnel are responsible to ensure towing operations are
conducted within limits.
• During towing, ±85° of nose wheel travel must not be exceeded.
Note: Mechanical stop is designed at 95° of nose wheel travel.
@@CaptainSteve777 I think I mentioned all the things you said here....plus other factors.....but thanks for the info straight from the source. I don't do towing but I have taxied and the ground crew pulled the steering bypass pin once before disconnecting the bar. It sheared those bolts like they were nothing. We heard a slight "ping" up in the flight deck.
Thanks again for the facts.
@@rael5469 Good stuff! Cheers!
@@CaptainSteve777 The actual NTSB report on Canyon Blue was fascinating. It reminded me how important it is to base everything on facts in my career. To go strictly by the book, and so forth. I've had fellow technicians not in my trade try to give their guess as to what was causing this fault or that fault, and I always have to politely say....."Uh, I have to go by the TSM, Trouble Shooting Manual. We'll see what it says." Over time we learn to be like Sargent Friday.....just the facts ma'am. I envy your career Captain Steve. Very cool.
Petter, this was very well done!! Informative with great detailed explanation! But, wow, that had to be quite a scary experience for the crew and passengers on that flight!! Kudos to those pilots for doing an incredible job of aviating, navigating and communicating!! I hope they were rewarded for their efforts!! It's ALWAYS good when everyone is safe!! Thanks Petter!! Stay safe out/up there!! Happy Easter!! 💕✈✈💕🐰🐰💕
Glad you liked it!
That front gear shaft/column deserve the credit too , the fact that it can withstand the friction from the ground is just unbelievable
One of my favorite accidents ever, and you did an incredible job going over every tiny detail! This is why I watch these videos!
The videos are always getting better and better, nice work
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
I remember hearing about this incident a long time ago. The pilots did an amazing job. Must be quite anxiety-inducing to see a news report about the plane you are currently on being in trouble. Also, Airbus did a good job of building a strong landing gear which could take things that it was probably not designed to take.
I remember coming home early from work, switching on the TV and they were showing this incident and mentioned that the aircraft had a landing gear issue and was circling to burn off fuel. I stayed glued to the TV, praying fervently for all on board. When the plane finally came to a stop, my heart was pounding and I was so relieved. I can't even begin to imagine what the passengers were going through, now that I learned from your excellent video, that they were watching their own flight on TV. Thanks for all the details about the maintenance issues, the system self test that led to the gear getting twisted , due to incorrect maintenance and the wonderful work of the cockpit and cabin crew.
Excellent video as always! hope you make another one for FL-763 soon ❤️
Mentour, you should do a video explaining why commercial airplanes don't have cameras pointing at all control surfaces, engines, and landing gear. Seems like it would be very helpful in a lot of these cases and I've always been curious why they don't implement them.
I would guess...
1. Cost. If you follow the Boeing 737 Max findings, a 3rd sensor that cost very little to include was instead sold as an addon that would have broken the tie when one of the two sensors essential for controlling the aircraft conflicted.
2. Technology. The LED cameras that are today so cheap that they cost only a few dollars have become possible only within the past decade or so. Previous cameras would be too complex and heavy to be practical pointing at numerous places on the aircraft. And of course, it'd be prohibitive to retrofit such a system on a plane after it's been manufactured. Just be amazed that the landing gear in this incident even had sensors to tell the pilot and the onboard computer something was wrong.
Hey Mentour! Great job on the videos you make and you inspired me to one day learn how to fly an aircraft. Never stop making videos :D
I will continue to create as long as you guys are here watching what I do.
I have been bingewatching your channel quite a lot recently.
An interesting observation here is that I would never ever click on one of your videos if me, or a loved one, was in the process of flying soon. Or already in the air.
But, watching you when I don't have an emotional investment to a specific flight means that I can actually process what goes on, what you're saying, seeing all the multitude of things that had to go wrong when it goes wrong, and the layers of cheese gets added over time to make it even harder for the holes to line up in the future.
It is kinda scary knowing how many things can go wrong, but it's comforting to know how many things has to go wrong, at the same time, for it to become dangerous. So you've overall made me less scared of flying. Also your presentation style is amazing.
Thank you for the videos, och hej från Sverige!
I flew Jet Blue out of Long Beach several times 2001-2005. In fact, I was willing to drive the 100 mile distance from San Diego instead of another airline from San Diego for those flights because not only was it the only non-stop flight from SoCal to Atlanta (6 1/2 hours cross country), the rates were economical, Jet Blue introduced leather seats for the entire plane, the entertainment screen as depicted in this video and the professional crew on every flight. I was happy that no flights were delayed or cancelled (unlike some other airlines) and flights were uneventful. One thing I remember was that I kept track of all the ways different pilots executed turns. You could tell many were probably recently ex-military fighter pilots by the ways they used different control surfaces to execute common turns. There was no crazy behavior, only creative ways to execute a common maneuver according to how the pilot preferred. If anything, they were indications of the expertise of the pilots.
So, I'm not surprised that the described actions of all the crew were so professional and thorough as described in this video. I haven't flown aircraft as often in the years since but I can attest that I had full confidence in the pilots and crew at the time described in this video.
As for the runways and airport options described in this video, without actually flying into any of them I'm sure they would all be suitable for the incident described in this video. I don't know if LAX is indeed the longest, but I know Palmdale-Lancaster is awfully long, too. It's in the middle of the high desert a little northeast of Los Angeles and is often used for experimental and research flights so it's very, very long. Miramar Naval Air Station of Top Gun fame is in northern San Diego and also has a very long airport, able to accommodate all of the largest aircraft in the world including the C-5 and C-17 as well as 747s. The approaches for all three are very easy supporting very long shallow glide slopes with very long, unobstructed clear fields (Palmdale/Lancaster and Miramar) or over the Pacific Ocean (LAX) and every facility is fully equipped with everything imaginable to support safe landings and emergencies. If the pilot had any experience landing in LAX or simply observed LAX often from the air, I would think that would be more the reason for choosing LAX over the other two airfields rather than the reasons given in the video (wider and longer airstrip). I can agree that Long Beach airport probably would have been a lesser choice due to its smaller size and likely lacking the type and quantity of resources to handle emergencies that the other airports have. Long Beach and Bob Hope (Burbank) airports would be considered less than a full service international or military airport.
Mentour, given how successful this series has been and how many subscribers you now have, is there a chance you might get to interview someone from the NTSB or other crash investigation agency to go,over their procedures?
Enjoyed this detailed explanation of the issues and how the flight crew responded. I remember watching this on news when it happened. Best possible outcome. The tv show Saturday Night Live did a comedy sketch about the passengers watching themselves on tv, parody of newscasters covering it. Just saw it again recently. Pretty funny but of course only because everyone got out okay. I would have been petrified.
What an amazing crew response.
Your presentations are getting better every week. I really enjoy them as they explain so much about the aircraft. Thank you.