Somewhere and some time ago at SE studio... Soken: “... so, last fight is a guy who’s like a vampire?” Yoshi: “yep” Soken: “so... hm. Something like Mozart but in a castlevania way?” Yoshi: “sure. Just make it a banger esp for the 4th fight too” Soken: “👌 say less fam”
I’ll remember this theme for the rest of my life. 60 years old my grand kids playing some retro games and this theme hits and it brings back all the memories of those late night progs lol
Listening this with headphones gets to really experience the instrument used for this theme. You don't get to pay much attention during a fight but this is really well done
I really enjoy how this piece uses harpsichord, piano, and organ. Very similar yet distinct instruments. They play off each other nicely to build the theme.
1:56 - 2:28 There's something about this part that just really strikes me. It's hard to articulate the exact feeling it incites in me but I've thought about it for awhile. It's something like glory, nostalgia. Walking headfirst into destiny, unflinching.
someone explained the music theory behind this better than I can on another comment. To oversimplify, it’s just a major section in a mostly minor key song. Like a bright contrast to an otherwise dark track. Gives a nice melancholic vibe. The change in rhythm helps too; most of the song is long, drawn-out choir and organ notes. At 1:56 they switch to much shorter stabs using the choir and brass instead. Makes it feel real triumphant if you listen to Hic Svnt Leones at the same part (around 1:10, the part that sounds Scooby Doo-ish), it has a similar effect. The song mostly has a darker gothic rock feel, but the same chords give this section a jaunty, almost playful feel all in all I’m really happy with Soken’s work on this one. I DO wish Asphodelos had more themes, but these two that we got were great
In fact, this part of the song has a very common harmonic sequence in Afro-Cuban songs, specifically a rhythm called "cha cha cha", there are hundreds of latin songs with this same sequence and cadence, nintendo also in their games like mario, zelda etc often borrows these chord sequences to give it a more upbeat, Caribbean feel. Watch this video demonstrating th-cam.com/video/1MTcYDj1YgA/w-d-xo.html
@@fivesidedpixels4991 I’m glad I’m not the only that thought of Scooby Doo in that part, I think it’s the backing ‘oooh’ that does it for me. I can just see them running through hallway doors lol
It is the classy sounds mixed with valiance that ushers in emotions of victory, allowance, power, perseverance, pride, and honor all in such a short moment. The voices of power compliment the instruments well and multiply these emotions too.
I absolutely love the remixes of old themes or from past FF games but a new piece like this is a breath of fresh air. I find most Pandemonium music to be a slow burn, they truly grow on you.
Saaaame! I thought it was fine. I thought it was really good but in terms of Soken nothing special. After hours of prog, once I went to bed and had it in my head, I realized I loved it
i didn't feel anything in particular with this raid song, i just brushed it off at first, but one day i caught my brain humming this tune non-stop and that was how i fell in love with this song
@@solisimperium1203 It's just as instrumental, with no pun intended. The introduction of the female choir and held organ chords wouldn't have the impact it does without the part *you* highlighted. They're both incredible parts of an incredible piece.
Same here! This part gave me goosebumps when I first heard it. It contrasts really nicely with the previous one (at 1:56) which is male voices and a major key (this part is women's choir and using minor key). I also love the background orchestral strings + organ (?)... it's just so epic, especially if you do the Savage raid :)
To be fair, my favorite part on this song is around 1:00, when that simple melody comes to a halt, and then a very low D note comes crashing down with the voice over it, that has a really "hellish" vibe to me. This one would be a beast to remake in 8 bit :o
@@omensoffate probably. Took me awhile to get what he meant. I thought he meant an original of a song from somewhere and did not took the original song to remix them.
1:55 I love this part. This must be in a "minor" key? (I'm not well versed in music) but I love how kinda sad but epic it is. Sounds like it would be the funeral dirge for some gothic underworld figure.
This is my favorite part too. As far as I can tell the key didn't change. The tonic sounds like it's still the same. I do know this is a circle of fifths chord progression though. Melancholic, but determined.
Music major here! It's actually the rest of the song that's in a minor key (mostly, you can make the argument that its passing through major in its chord progression). 1:55 is *solidly* in A major. And for added punch, it's also a very basic, strong chord progression with a lot of dominant-to-tonic movement like you'd hear in classical music, which is why it sounds so triumphant all the sudden. In contrast, the main chord progression is kind of chromatic and weak (not as is bad, its a harmonic term). So that makes 1:55 REALLY pop
This track somehow feels different in each of the fights despite being the same exact piece. Also its nigh on ptsd inducing, I'll be hearing it in my prog related nightmares.
The castle + the music feels very Astarothian and the first thing that crosses my mind when seeing Pandaemonium is Astaroth's Castle of torture, fun and Horrors. LOL!
I immediately fell in love with this song from the start. Then again, it's also cause I like that creepy monster filled goth castle vibe. Absolutely love this stuff.
what's really cool is that unlike a lot of bosses, his raidwide attacks are physical based and not magical, which is a really neat detail given that he has very little magical ability
I'm sorry but the part 0:52 - 1:07 reminded me so much of Cooking Mama music it made me laugh in the middle of savage raiding. Haahahaha, I love this song so much
This is weird, but everytime I hear this music and think of the boss, I associate mechanics with specific parts of the song. I have a subconcious dread that the music is going and I'm sitting here and not doing the mechanics. Twelve help me.
Anyone noticed this has different lyrics from the one in-game? Is this the unused version or maybe one of Soken's brilliance with hidden meaning that i'm to dumb to notice…
Probably just that it’s in a minor key, and a similar register. The Void and its Voidsent didn’t exist until after the Sundering, so we won’t get any true Voidsent in Pandæmonium.
@@TheTwilightmaster6 I know that but what if the voidsent predated 13th reflection and aetheric balance of 13th got scewered towards umbral aether by voidsent created in Pandaemonium?
The version that plays on the 4th boss just doesn't do it as well for me, this one just seems more captivating for some reason. Both versions are good, but I prefer this one.
anyone have lyrics lmao they sound different here than in the endwalker ost. i cant tell if its latin or english or japanese choirs. but they are definitely different.
I heard the Japanese were not so fond of this new type of music as it was not like a typical JRPG music, but more Western. Well-- time they lost their virginity and embraced the Western Gothic music to the fullest. Great work, Soken!
I mean, Japan likes Gothic music plenty if you look at something like the soundtrack for Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. For FFXIV OST this is a very new vibe, though
Great song, but kind of slow-paced for a battle theme making it pretty easy to get ignored. Music like Kefka's theme, Titan's theme, Shiva's theme in old raids make me shake my head no matter how many times I died there. All pandaemonium's themes are good but not that fast head-shaking kind of music, not suitable to listen to them during an eight-hour battle trying to kill a red chicken. Every time my team was wiped in savage, I'd prefer some hot and fast-paced music to encourage us to move forward and try again. I will listen to this in my spare time when I want some good music, but not in Pandaemonium. Three bosses share this same music and the fourth one is the same melody, just turn the iTune on and try something else.
I don't like this OST.. it feels just stressfully to me, dunno why. Worst OST from all FFXIV raids. But i love FFXIV, not everything has to be perfect for everyone, right?
Pretty boring, feels like it lacks direction imo. No great hook or hype moments. Way too similar to the Void Ark raids which are run pretty frequently, so it lacks in the freshness category as well. It feels more like going through a haunted house or castle than a fight.
What? I think it's amazing. I could listen to it all day. This theme fits the surroundings perfectly which does look like a dungeon within a castle or something.
@@lren1692 Three bosses share this same music, and in savage you will want some hype music to put yourself together after wiped again and again.This is good, but not that good if you listen to it for 8 hours straight during fighting.
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I love how at 1:55 the theme goes from rising notes on the piano, suddenly into triumphant chants with heavy brass.
Somewhere and some time ago at SE studio...
Soken: “... so, last fight is a guy who’s like a vampire?”
Yoshi: “yep”
Soken: “so... hm. Something like Mozart but in a castlevania way?”
Yoshi: “sure. Just make it a banger esp for the 4th fight too”
Soken: “👌 say less fam”
I’ll remember this theme for the rest of my life. 60 years old my grand kids playing some retro games and this theme hits and it brings back all the memories of those late night progs lol
Listening this with headphones gets to really experience the instrument used for this theme.
You don't get to pay much attention during a fight but this is really well done
That one piano interlude makes me want to /balldance mid-raid though!
I really enjoy how this piece uses harpsichord, piano, and organ. Very similar yet distinct instruments. They play off each other nicely to build the theme.
1:56 - 2:28
There's something about this part that just really strikes me. It's hard to articulate the exact feeling it incites in me but I've thought about it for awhile. It's something like glory, nostalgia. Walking headfirst into destiny, unflinching.
someone explained the music theory behind this better than I can on another comment. To oversimplify, it’s just a major section in a mostly minor key song. Like a bright contrast to an otherwise dark track. Gives a nice melancholic vibe. The change in rhythm helps too; most of the song is long, drawn-out choir and organ notes. At 1:56 they switch to much shorter stabs using the choir and brass instead. Makes it feel real triumphant
if you listen to Hic Svnt Leones at the same part (around 1:10, the part that sounds Scooby Doo-ish), it has a similar effect. The song mostly has a darker gothic rock feel, but the same chords give this section a jaunty, almost playful feel
all in all I’m really happy with Soken’s work on this one. I DO wish Asphodelos had more themes, but these two that we got were great
In fact, this part of the song has a very common harmonic sequence in Afro-Cuban songs, specifically a rhythm called "cha cha cha", there are hundreds of latin songs with this same sequence and cadence, nintendo also in their games like mario, zelda etc often borrows these chord sequences to give it a more upbeat, Caribbean feel. Watch this video demonstrating th-cam.com/video/1MTcYDj1YgA/w-d-xo.html
@@fivesidedpixels4991 I’m glad I’m not the only that thought of Scooby Doo in that part, I think it’s the backing ‘oooh’ that does it for me. I can just see them running through hallway doors lol
It is the classy sounds mixed with valiance that ushers in emotions of victory, allowance, power, perseverance, pride, and honor all in such a short moment. The voices of power compliment the instruments well and multiply these emotions too.
I absolutely love the remixes of old themes or from past FF games but a new piece like this is a breath of fresh air. I find most Pandemonium music to be a slow burn, they truly grow on you.
This, after hours of savage prog this song is actually addicting to me now
yes as slow as devouring brand
Man, truth. It was okay the first time, nothing special, but as I got to hear each phrase over and over, I grew to love it.
Saaaame! I thought it was fine. I thought it was really good but in terms of Soken nothing special. After hours of prog, once I went to bed and had it in my head, I realized I loved it
Does slow mean the second time you hear it?
i didn't feel anything in particular with this raid song, i just brushed it off at first, but one day i caught my brain humming this tune non-stop and that was how i fell in love with this song
I am obsessed with that piano. specifically that part at 3:55.
I don't have anything else to say every time I hear it it brings me joy
It reminds me of The piano collections albums, where Elidibus is playing a piano all alone.
@@NavytroyXIV wait how do we know it’s elidibus?
Listening to this song reminds me of all the high hopes I had for this raid, only for them to fade once the second tier was released
2:28 Bliss for my ears, woah
personally i love this part 1:56, the harpsichord, choir, and trumpets are awesome
@@solisimperium1203 It's just as instrumental, with no pun intended. The introduction of the female choir and held organ chords wouldn't have the impact it does without the part *you* highlighted. They're both incredible parts of an incredible piece.
@@supremeoverlord0 yeah one of my favorite boss themes
me too, i love this part and right after it, and the joyous piano
Same here! This part gave me goosebumps when I first heard it. It contrasts really nicely with the previous one (at 1:56) which is male voices and a major key (this part is women's choir and using minor key). I also love the background orchestral strings + organ (?)... it's just so epic, especially if you do the Savage raid :)
Classical music moved to video games, man, i can't never resist to chorus, the song is telling us a story
This song has SMT Strange Journey vibes and i love it.
You’re right! It’s the gothic vocals.
Chorus sounds similar
Yup I’ve been saying this everywhere. Exactly on the money
You could add heee hooheeee and I wouldn’t blink an eye lol
Jack Frost about to kick my ass
To be fair, my favorite part on this song is around 1:00, when that simple melody comes to a halt, and then a very low D note comes crashing down with the voice over it, that has a really "hellish" vibe to me. This one would be a beast to remake in 8 bit :o
I just beat P1s and this song is now stuck in my head. At least it's another epic track by Soken so I'm not complaining.
I like how the boss theme is original and not a remix in this raid
It's the original of which final fantasy again ?
@@Pangster are you daft ?
@@omensoffate probably. Took me awhile to get what he meant.
I thought he meant an original of a song from somewhere and did not took the original song to remix them.
@@Pangster haha it’s okay I wasn’t sure if you were trolling
I would've preferred SOME musical references to FF2's Pandaemonium
1:55 I love this part. This must be in a "minor" key? (I'm not well versed in music) but I love how kinda sad but epic it is. Sounds like it would be the funeral dirge for some gothic underworld figure.
Dont know the Key too sorry. This is what we needed as a OST, i won't be annoyed practicing in these savages
This is my favorite part too. As far as I can tell the key didn't change. The tonic sounds like it's still the same.
I do know this is a circle of fifths chord progression though. Melancholic, but determined.
It doesn't sound like it's in a minor key. In fact, it has the same chord progression as Doja Cat - Kiss Me More, which is in a major key.
Music major here! It's actually the rest of the song that's in a minor key (mostly, you can make the argument that its passing through major in its chord progression). 1:55 is *solidly* in A major. And for added punch, it's also a very basic, strong chord progression with a lot of dominant-to-tonic movement like you'd hear in classical music, which is why it sounds so triumphant all the sudden. In contrast, the main chord progression is kind of chromatic and weak (not as is bad, its a harmonic term). So that makes 1:55 REALLY pop
@@b.j.1030 Yes! Melancholic, but determined is the perfect description.
It kind of reminds me of Void Ark with the piano and pipe organ sound
Tbh i was waiting for something like this
same!
It mixes three different but similar instruments to great affect: harpsichord, piano, and organ. I really enjoy how they play off each other.
Hopefully, they don't bring Diabolos back...
@@moh.q.qirnas1448 diabolos dosnt exist in the unsundered world.
This track somehow feels different in each of the fights despite being the same exact piece. Also its nigh on ptsd inducing, I'll be hearing it in my prog related nightmares.
I can confirm there is at least two different versions of this song
This feels like something straight out of FF9, and honestly since Pandaemonium appeared in that game too I think that feeling is on purpose
Pandaemonium is from FF2 originally.
@@cooljoe500 pandaemonium is from ff2 but reused in several games
@@cooljoe500 They could very easily do a reference to both, given the 3 section structure.
@@ReddeSpectre It's not a 'both'. As they mentioned it's been re-used in several FFs.
The castle + the music feels very Astarothian and the first thing that crosses my mind when seeing Pandaemonium is Astaroth's Castle of torture, fun and Horrors. LOL!
this sounds great through headphones, it’s a good musical lead up to p4’s theme
Official OST is called: Ancient Shackles
I immediately fell in love with this song from the start. Then again, it's also cause I like that creepy monster filled goth castle vibe. Absolutely love this stuff.
No Idea why people say this Song is bad. I quite like it.
I love it! At first I wasn’t that keen tbh but it’s really grown on me. It’s gonna hit so different during savage prog and I can’t wait!!! 😁
It's because it's not butt rock, like the only songs 14 players give a damn about.
@@D1ab0lical EXACTLY! They hate anything that’s not a random ass guitar
@@venuzmodeling
Some go even further to hate 1.0's battle music which were made by Uematsu
to me this song is just boring as fuck, and i also hate the rock shit they do in this game
this music grows on you - great for raiding!
As an Organ (The instrument) lover, i love this OST. From 1:33 is my favourite part.
2:08 smooth transition! love it
That haunting piano solo.. so goooood 1:32
Erichthonlos looks so awesome yet everyone says he's the weakest of the warders.
makes you really think how much stronger can these warders become
what's really cool is that unlike a lot of bosses, his raidwide attacks are physical based and not magical, which is a really neat detail given that he has very little magical ability
@@rocketdog734 "physical raidwide"
This hurts my GNB soul
that Hippokamus fuk with my brain so hard no puns intended
So much FF2 vibes here.
Very strong Ultemica castle vibes especially 0:53
TRUE
This who raid setting and music gives me Kingdom Heart vibes like castle Oblivion or the castle that never was
I'm sorry but the part 0:52 - 1:07 reminded me so much of Cooking Mama music it made me laugh in the middle of savage raiding. Haahahaha, I love this song so much
This time it is the chicken that is cooking you
This is weird, but everytime I hear this music and think of the boss, I associate mechanics with specific parts of the song.
I have a subconcious dread that the music is going and I'm sitting here and not doing the mechanics.
Twelve help me.
0:52 - 1:10 loved the piano in this
this theme is amazing but kinda funny how oddly calming it is when getting destroyed by literally everything happening lol
I wish hippokampos was the savage mount reward. We have enough birds.
Plus that Yiazmat skeleton is amazing!!
This music will be so epic playing at Savage
P3S PTSD theme, so many wipes... ;~;
I think the reason why people hate this is because it's not Fight music, it's Puzzle-solving music.
P1S is getting me SUPER acquainted with this song lol
i love this track but god it feels like it's designed to mentally drain you faster in savage content
after ingame days of doing savage, this track is now burned into my mind
Gives me old dark souls/demon souls music vibes. Probably because of the harpsichord
7:06. grats, you passed the add phase. now the real test begins...
good luck. you need that. (pray for the big black balls
Best raid OST
2:28 Love this part
Love the edgy organ and piano
these raids feel so much like bloodborne
bliss for my ears 0:24
Anyone noticed this has different lyrics from the one in-game? Is this the unused version or maybe one of Soken's brilliance with hidden meaning that i'm to dumb to notice…
Now that you mention it, it _does_ sound different.
It _has_ to be an alternate version, similar to what Sephirot had at one point.
It sounds a lot like the World of Darkness music. Perhaps they are connected. First void creature was made by Ancients?
Probably just that it’s in a minor key, and a similar register. The Void and its Voidsent didn’t exist until after the Sundering, so we won’t get any true Voidsent in Pandæmonium.
The Void is the 13th Reflection
@@TheTwilightmaster6 I know that but what if the voidsent predated 13th reflection and aetheric balance of 13th got scewered towards umbral aether by voidsent created in Pandaemonium?
The version that plays on the 4th boss just doesn't do it as well for me, this one just seems more captivating for some reason.
Both versions are good, but I prefer this one.
The piano interlude reminds me of the hundred acre wood
I hum this tune while I work.
Coworkers prolly think I’m crazy
Is it me or why does Themis look like the band of the hawks commander from Berserk?
This upload sounds different from the one in game, it's weird.
The beginning sounds like something from SMT Strange Journey!!
Hee ho!
that game had such a unique OST
2:28 15% PULL UP TIMERS TIMERS GO GO GO TO YOUR SPOTS NOW PURPLE IN RED OUT
Wish there was a high quality version of this
I think this is how the "void" came to be.
anyone have lyrics lmao they sound different here than in the endwalker ost. i cant tell if its latin or english or japanese choirs. but they are definitely different.
Anyone curious as to what the lyrics are?
meeeee
Probably aren't any. It's a virtual choir
I always get p3s flashbacks when I hear this theme
Am I crazy or did they update this track? The in-game one sounds different in my ears compared to this version.
Dude I'm hearing both in game from a friend live and this one
AND YEAH??? ITS DIFFERENT??????
its tuesday. lets get it on
WILD
FREAKS
I feel like I am wandering in a USSR secret research center
Those soviet chants!
Doesn't look so hard to run I might have to give it a try
Normal raids aside from Coils aren't hard at all
I heard the Japanese were not so fond of this new type of music as it was not like a typical JRPG music, but more Western. Well-- time they lost their virginity and embraced the Western Gothic music to the fullest. Great work, Soken!
since the word pandaemonium is from western, making this kind of music is completely fine and acceptable
I mean, Japan likes Gothic music plenty if you look at something like the soundtrack for Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. For FFXIV OST this is a very new vibe, though
the chorus is a little different from the game
5:28
1:04
This version is infinitely better than the Fourth Circle version.
Great song, but kind of slow-paced for a battle theme making it pretty easy to get ignored. Music like Kefka's theme, Titan's theme, Shiva's theme in old raids make me shake my head no matter how many times I died there.
All pandaemonium's themes are good but not that fast head-shaking kind of music, not suitable to listen to them during an eight-hour battle trying to kill a red chicken. Every time my team was wiped in savage, I'd prefer some hot and fast-paced music to encourage us to move forward and try again.
I will listen to this in my spare time when I want some good music, but not in Pandaemonium. Three bosses share this same music and the fourth one is the same melody, just turn the iTune on and try something else.
@Wait What Was I Saying? yes you are right. Maybe it's just this atmosphere itself not suitable for long-time repetitive battle instead of music
The voice pitch is so much higher than the original version. This hurts my ears.
Yeah i agree my favourite part of the song sounds really weird. I guess it was the orchestrion roll?
why is the music quality so bad ugh
I don't like this OST.. it feels just stressfully to me, dunno why.
Worst OST from all FFXIV raids. But i love FFXIV, not everything has to be perfect for everyone, right?
Pretty boring, feels like it lacks direction imo. No great hook or hype moments. Way too similar to the Void Ark raids which are run pretty frequently, so it lacks in the freshness category as well. It feels more like going through a haunted house or castle than a fight.
What? I think it's amazing. I could listen to it all day. This theme fits the surroundings perfectly which does look like a dungeon within a castle or something.
What? Srsly
I guess for alot of xiv players
Not rock = not good
@@lren1692 Three bosses share this same music, and in savage you will want some hype music to put yourself together after wiped again and again.This is good, but not that good if you listen to it for 8 hours straight during fighting.
@@user-nu3ug4pm1t Indeed it fits the surroundings, not the situation.
@@lren1692 Lots of great non-rock themes in this game. This isn't one of them.