Love the theming nuance with kokytos. For those who don't know. Cocytus is the river of ice in hell where betrayers are sent. Making the arena aether crystal to make it seem like ice is a nice touch. But the fact kokytus devours souls makes him a betrayer to all life, willing to consume others to gain more power. Such a great touch of theming.
To add to this, in Dante's inferno, which they've referenced a lot across the raid, Cocytus isn't a river but a frozen lake, comprised of 4 'rounds', or concentric circles, just as the arena here is.
@@bootwiththeloot4348 other than the context of "Hey, we named the 9th fight of this raid series (and the first one set in the place the Ancients called the Underworld) after the 9th circle of hell", Kokytos feels a bit like a Giant Space Flea from Nowhere in the context of the plot of the raids. What is it? Why is it here? Is this just a thing that occasionally happens down here? Was it a failed attempt to make a copy of someone? WHERE DID KOKYTOS COME FROM???
I'm pretty sure that Kokytos was only created to get our attention, right? No better way to get to the top of the WoL's enmity list than by threatening to eat the souls of their dead friends...
With this song being a remix of Athena's theme, it feels like she's surrounding us, incorporeal but present, not yet fully manifest, obscured. But once you can recognize her theme it's impossible to not notice her influence.
@@chstenswhich just adds to it tbh. Because again, once you notice her theme, you cant help but see her influence around you, including her influence in the previous raids. It really lends to the feeling of "she was behind everything from the beginning"
I love the attention to accessibility in the raid design. One of the things in designing for color-blindness is to ensure that things with meaning should not differ only in color, but some other aspect like shape. The fire and ice have triangle vs hexagon, and also there's a vocal cue in addition to the symbol flashing on the screen and text bubble telling you which one.
@Phoenix They took a song that was super emotional from Shadowbringers, and made it even more so. I was not expecting a triumphant version of To The Edge after the first two raids of this tier. XD
A fun little fact about the way the voice lines that are delivered in this raid. In the Japanese dub, the mage is a cheeky and mischievous young lady, as opposed to the English's old witch voice. The male martialist's voice is also younger and less creepy/gritty and more hot-blooded. Overall, they also sound like they're both enjoying this moment more than the English voices, who sound less than enthused about their situation.
I dont know. To me the mage at least seems to be enjoying it too some extent. I mainly recall "This SHOULDN'T kill you" as someone who's playing with their prey
My patch day 1 is mostly about gathering and crafting, so all I know is P1-P8 and the teaser we got at the end of those quests ... this sounds like a perfectly surreal sound for what promises to be a horror movie of an experience. And I can't want to find out why I can hear "Scream" layered into this one....
So... an idea occurred when I was raiding... While yes this is Athena's Them remixed and all... I keep thinking that this is her singing lullabies to her subjects as if they are her children. Since she considers Ericthanios to be a failer of an experiment to her. The thought keeps occurring and it just makes it worse once you get to P10 and hear Pandaemonium say, "Mother?" what are your thoughts?
Perhaps Kokytos was created to see if souls can be destroyed. We shouldn't forget that the ancients did some fucked up shit when it came to concepts. ( Looking at Hippocampus )
Say goodnight, to the weakness that you hide behind Leaving the lies, leaving the fear inside Never once were you truly alive So scream all you like, no one can hear you It is, it's the chorus, just very reverbed and distorted.
@@joeyfromanimalcrossing actually, the shantoto of XIV is this less HOOOOHOHOHO mage and more of a cocky and sassy, always ironic voiced witch rather than the XI one. At least, that's what I see and see for the black mage quest. I think it also fits her dialogue. More power driven than obnoxious laugh.
maybe its because I've been on a hymnos marathon (people look it up its really interesting music), but this track feels too similar to Hymnos from Ar Tonelico. everything from its progression to its choice of sounds
I think Kokytos is a product of Athenas experimentation with creation of beings with a soul, but this being instead of having a soul, consumed souls which turned into its consciousness: a mage, a martialist, and a behemoth
@@Zadka233 Ah okay, Thank you- I was a little confused on if it was the result of stray spirits possessing an Azyzla Experiment hungry for aether like or if it was an actual creation because Modern Pandeamonium is a chunk of Azyz la IIRC.
I’m a sprout. If the raid theme goes hard I’m dancing mid battle 😂 and does everyone have bath time in the lava for their daily roulette? I make sure to do so every time and wanted to make sure that it was normal
I feel like I'm not going to see or understand what I am seeing on my phone but not even the things I have been trying to get to you for your help and your not working with me 😢
It's interesting and I look forward to the lyrics... but... yeah this doesn't even come close to the EPIC that Scream was. Is that a knock on this one? Nope. It's good but not as killer as its predecessor.
I beg to differ but to each thier own. What about scream makes it better to you? The style of music? Or something else? Quick edit: don't mean to sound negative if I do, just curious is all
Scream, for me, edges this one out because of the guitar and lyrics themselves in Scream. Just love that sound more than what is going on in this new one. But as the original posted said, both are bangers.
@@evilanimegenious Not everyone is into Trance style music. I know a few people that preferred the Evanescence -style feel that Scream had going for it. But then I also know people who prefer this because of the faster beat, like a rave. To each their own.
They FINALLY did an upbeat fight song for something that should have some sort of momentum, I was tired of the Castlevania vibes this whole tier, this kinda made it much more fitting and exalted.
Nah there are stuff I don't quite like when I start to think about it. Like the part when they start playing with Xylophone sounds and I never liked pandaemonium theme they keep using.
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Kokytos: THIS SHOULDNT KILL YOU. Me: Dies.
*AND YET*
“Shouldn’t,” not “won’t” so true.
I mean, they do stress the word "shouldn't" there is no guarantee
The bells/chimes give me such massive SMT vibes. The whole raid did really but this last patch just fully embraced that.
My FC ran the raids last night and we were talking about how all 4 gave us SMT vibes.
literallyyyyyyy 😭athena gives me such smt4 merkabah vibes
The chimes? Simply just you collecting minecraft xp orbs in a mob grinder
The boss looks like it's from Digital devil saga I love it
Feels more like dothack music to me.
Love the theming nuance with kokytos. For those who don't know. Cocytus is the river of ice in hell where betrayers are sent. Making the arena aether crystal to make it seem like ice is a nice touch. But the fact kokytus devours souls makes him a betrayer to all life, willing to consume others to gain more power. Such a great touch of theming.
To add to this, in Dante's inferno, which they've referenced a lot across the raid, Cocytus isn't a river but a frozen lake, comprised of 4 'rounds', or concentric circles, just as the arena here is.
Not to mention, it’s the ninth raid in Pandemonium, and Cocytus is located in (or maybe just is?) the ninth circle of hell.
@@bootwiththeloot4348 other than the context of "Hey, we named the 9th fight of this raid series (and the first one set in the place the Ancients called the Underworld) after the 9th circle of hell", Kokytos feels a bit like a Giant Space Flea from Nowhere in the context of the plot of the raids. What is it? Why is it here? Is this just a thing that occasionally happens down here? Was it a failed attempt to make a copy of someone?
WHERE DID KOKYTOS COME FROM???
@@DeisFortuna I think its aub textually implied to have been a creation of Athenas to gather souls for her and/or test us for her experiment
I'm pretty sure that Kokytos was only created to get our attention, right? No better way to get to the top of the WoL's enmity list than by threatening to eat the souls of their dead friends...
With this song being a remix of Athena's theme, it feels like she's surrounding us, incorporeal but present, not yet fully manifest, obscured. But once you can recognize her theme it's impossible to not notice her influence.
@Phoenix ...to slaughter!?
Well, that leitmotif has been a constant for all of Pandemonium
@@chstenswhich just adds to it tbh. Because again, once you notice her theme, you cant help but see her influence around you, including her influence in the previous raids. It really lends to the feeling of "she was behind everything from the beginning"
Those fricking chimes or bells are soo cool. I get huge 90’s edm vibes. All around the world la la la
IT SOUNDS LIKE MINECRAFT XP ORB SOUNDS
@@Ez-pu4tl considering what the thing was eating earlier, it's not far off 😂
This always reminds me of the OST for Secret of Mana
the older .hack games had lots of that i loved it
I love the attention to accessibility in the raid design. One of the things in designing for color-blindness is to ensure that things with meaning should not differ only in color, but some other aspect like shape. The fire and ice have triangle vs hexagon, and also there's a vocal cue in addition to the symbol flashing on the screen and text bubble telling you which one.
The new pandaemonium fights are good music are bangers as well and I also have to say story put a smile on my face :D
0:31 - 0:43 slaps hard
This would have been my favorite song of the tier if they didn't pull my heartstrings with another arrangement of To The Edge 😭
I was sobbing tears of joy while fighting Elidibus. It was such a beautiful fight 😭
@Phoenix They took a song that was super emotional from Shadowbringers, and made it even more so. I was not expecting a triumphant version of To The Edge after the first two raids of this tier. XD
I really like Kokytos' animation at the start there where it turns around in a panic
A fun little fact about the way the voice lines that are delivered in this raid. In the Japanese dub, the mage is a cheeky and mischievous young lady, as opposed to the English's old witch voice. The male martialist's voice is also younger and less creepy/gritty and more hot-blooded. Overall, they also sound like they're both enjoying this moment more than the English voices, who sound less than enthused about their situation.
I lowkey thought yshtola was trying to kill me when the mage was speaking
In french the mage also sounds pretty good and enjoys the moment
Something something different lives something rebirth something reincarnation elsewhere
I dont know. To me the mage at least seems to be enjoying it too some extent. I mainly recall "This SHOULDN'T kill you" as someone who's playing with their prey
I played through this raid and the MSQ and I have no idea what ya'll are talking about. I don't remember a mage or martialist.
0:19 me on my minecraft xp farm
Soken is beast, like how the f he could always created these banger music I have no idea.
These tracks probably aren’t soken
My patch day 1 is mostly about gathering and crafting, so all I know is P1-P8 and the teaser we got at the end of those quests ... this sounds like a perfectly surreal sound for what promises to be a horror movie of an experience. And I can't want to find out why I can hear "Scream" layered into this one....
Haha you making that 2.5 million Gil gear? Hehe
@@SiriusGaymer I'm actually working on my second set of it right now. Omnicrafting is fun!
Think might be my favorite on pandemonium, the progression that starts at 0:30 is stuck on my head and i cant help bopping to it whenever i hear.
Well, that was fast! Thank Hydaelyn for hungrychad!
I neeed the orchestrions for these songs. Omfg they are bangers.
Please tell me I’m not the only one who can hear the Minecraft xp sound at the start
Too 😂😂😂😂
LITERALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING LMAOOOO
I commented on it the first time I played through it. Kinda fits in a funny way, too.
Wow, the tinkling bells/chimes are very .hack-sounding, especially at the beginning!
0:00-0:25 (that is all..)
Bayonetta lovers where you at this raid tier
Right here enjoying the show.
"FLAMES TAKE YOU!" Kokytos whispered.
So... an idea occurred when I was raiding... While yes this is Athena's Them remixed and all... I keep thinking that this is her singing lullabies to her subjects as if they are her children. Since she considers Ericthanios to be a failer of an experiment to her. The thought keeps occurring and it just makes it worse once you get to P10 and hear Pandaemonium say, "Mother?" what are your thoughts?
"Eat, Fight!"
I feel that.
I can't stop hearing the minecraft xp sound effect during the chimes part
I'm here for the EDM trance vibes, not everyone's cup of tea though.
Sammmmmeee. It gave me e8s vibes mixed with trance. I was so here for it
I usually don't like these, I didn't care for Eden's verse at all... But this. This I like.
If Kokytos was a mythic creation, what was it’s intended purpose?
Perhaps Kokytos was created to see if souls can be destroyed. We shouldn't forget that the ancients did some fucked up shit when it came to concepts. ( Looking at Hippocampus )
EAT FIGHT EAT FIGHT
masterpiece for real
Fantastic!
1:07 I hope they tell us the lyrics for this bit, I love it and its not present on "The tireless one" (p12)
Say goodnight, to the weakness that you hide behind
Leaving the lies, leaving the fear inside
Never once were you truly alive
So scream all you like, no one can hear you
It is, it's the chorus, just very reverbed and distorted.
Damn this a banger. Frfr
Oh this hits so well. All the right tones.
Side note, did we find out what the references were, if any, in this bit? I'm gonna say DMC or Bayonetta.
What I wanna know is if we know who those souls are it eats... I mean, aside from Behemoth, that one is obvious.
My guess is shantoto and evan courel fist
@@ragateguh2825 shantoto was my guess too but not enough hohohos
It’s likely Shatotto, the mage we met possessing the black mage in the job quests
@@joeyfromanimalcrossing actually, the shantoto of XIV is this less HOOOOHOHOHO mage and more of a cocky and sassy, always ironic voiced witch rather than the XI one.
At least, that's what I see and see for the black mage quest.
I think it also fits her dialogue. More power driven than obnoxious laugh.
I love the track. Like straight out of JoJo with an enemy that looks like a Stand.
Fr tho giving Overdrive vibe
I'm sure that Soken used minecraft xp sounds for the chime sounds, mf literally used noodle box for rattle sounds.
This the vocaloid version of the p12 song it sounds like
This Minecraft exp remix goes hard
Am I the only one who laughs every time I listen to this song? Despite how this music is great.
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So... my question is- Are the Mage and Martialist a reference to someone? Either in 14 or other FF games?
:( was looking for clean BGM audio but you can hear the in game quotes
the first pose of the boss reminds me of Jojos Bizarre Adventure
maybe its because I've been on a hymnos marathon (people look it up its really interesting music), but this track feels too similar to Hymnos from Ar Tonelico. everything from its progression to its choice of sounds
So uh... I'm confused... Where Kokyos come from if not Athena... then... who made Kokyos?
I may have missed her saying she made it but I don't know.
I think Kokytos is a product of Athenas experimentation with creation of beings with a soul, but this being instead of having a soul, consumed souls which turned into its consciousness: a mage, a martialist, and a behemoth
@@Zadka233 Ah okay, Thank you- I was a little confused on if it was the result of stray spirits possessing an Azyzla Experiment hungry for aether like or if it was an actual creation because Modern Pandeamonium is a chunk of Azyz la IIRC.
@@Zadka233 I was under the impression that Athena made it to collect souls for her. That's why his feast "mustn't be stopped, mustn't be interrupted".
The chimes? Simply just you collecting minecraft xp orbs in a mob grinder
Anyone getting Running Wild vibes from Shadow Hearts?
I’m a sprout. If the raid theme goes hard I’m dancing mid battle 😂 and does everyone have bath time in the lava for their daily roulette? I make sure to do so every time and wanted to make sure that it was normal
I feel like I'm not going to see or understand what I am seeing on my phone but not even the things I have been trying to get to you for your help and your not working with me 😢
Why does it sound like the boss finna start rapping
Kikuo guest track
Bit of a deep cut, but I'm here for it
Kyrios from tiga
For some reason the start of the music reminds me of Terraria
fucking amazing;;;;;;;
Bruh is S.F. okay?
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It's interesting and I look forward to the lyrics... but... yeah this doesn't even come close to the EPIC that Scream was.
Is that a knock on this one? Nope. It's good but not as killer as its predecessor.
I beg to differ but to each thier own. What about scream makes it better to you? The style of music? Or something else?
Quick edit: don't mean to sound negative if I do, just curious is all
Scream, for me, edges this one out because of the guitar and lyrics themselves in Scream. Just love that sound more than what is going on in this new one. But as the original posted said, both are bangers.
@@evilanimegenious Not everyone is into Trance style music. I know a few people that preferred the Evanescence -style feel that Scream had going for it.
But then I also know people who prefer this because of the faster beat, like a rave. To each their own.
It ain't quite on the level of Scream...
Not enough people in this comment section have played Nier, this song is Nier as fuck
They FINALLY did an upbeat fight song for something that should have some sort of momentum, I was tired of the Castlevania vibes this whole tier, this kinda made it much more fitting and exalted.
I guess I'll be the buzzkill. It's uh... different lol.
That's fair
Nah there are stuff I don't quite like when I start to think about it. Like the part when they start playing with Xylophone sounds and I never liked pandaemonium theme they keep using.
100% .hack vibes and I am all here for this if they go this direction for the future osts
Kokytos: 🥱
Cock’и’toes 🥵