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- The dominant EXO era started at the peak of their popularity in early 2014. EXO would dominate award shows, amass millions of fans, and win the 2013 Song of the Year Award in “Growl.” The only thing that could have slowed down the EXO train was themselves.
And that’s exactly what happened.
When Kris, Luhan, and Tao left the group in 2014 and 2015, their departures would mark one of the biggest moments in K-pop history. The three Chinese members decided to leave the hottest K-pop group and bank on themselves in starting a solo career back in China. They would fight a messy lawsuit with SM Entertainment to attain their freedom and get that wish to start anew in China.
That bold decision paid off immediately. In just one year after their departures, the three former EXO members exploded in China. But EXO was no slouch either, continuing as nine members and reaching their apex in 2016, when they won five awards.
Let’s take a look at why Kris, Luhan, and Tao were geniuses in leaving EXO.
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TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro
1:30 The Incredible Rise of EXO
2:14 The members departure from the group
4:59 They weren’t happy
6:02 I can’t blame them for leaving
7:49 Kris, Luhan, and Tao become big in China
12:38 EXO continued to thrive as 9
13:54 Now over to you
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Most entertainment company treat their artists as product than human being.
r8
They just use them like money making machines
Yes
Except YG
@@alisha7394 Its business what you guys Expect LOL
I really missed exo with 12 members!
We all do.
Ong 😭😭😭😭
Same us..i miss ot12
Same TT
Yes 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
KrisTaoHan don't want to leave EXO they want to leave SM 🥺
thats right !
in reality, they left EXO immediately, but still bond to SM till 2022
@@ME-mx4gn why would they do that do you even know how big actors are they. I am a big fan of Chinese dramas and they are really good in acting.
@@divyanshichauhan4668 if I understood correctly, it was not their choice at all, they just couldn't legally terminate the contract they had with SM entertainment that made them linked to the company until 2022
(not totally sure tho)
😔but the LEFT EXO alone
I became an EXO-L after leave of LuHan, Kris and ZTao but I still miss them and sometimes it feels like they're still members of EXO
Yap it's true i can't remove them from EXO
Also after they leave 😭😭😭
Did lay also left the group exo
@@sandrawright8632 No, he's still a member of EXO. He's developing his career i in China.
Thanks
I’ve been a fan since Exo teasers and kris was my bias I miss him in the group but so proud of him
I love the talent of the boys but I really hate their company, the whole entretaiment industry (not just korean) is pretty dark and creepy, this talented and brilliant boys and girls deserve better.
I agree with you,
I think they are living better life from that they lived in EXO. Also, they atleast are enjoying the freedom which SM couldn't give them! But still...I miss them
By the way, you should write THESE instead of THIS.
I'm not offending you 😄
You are right
I can't agree with you.
They just left for bigger money, betraying their team members & loyalty fans to China where is not fair about compliance.
Throughout their career in South Korea, they could become famous celebrities in China. But they lost the trust & sincerity in S. Korea & global entertainment industry.
@@loveseoulmarui1502 ARE YOU DUMB! They didn't betray the team members and plus they didn't left for bigger money! The reason why they left was because the company didn't treat them any better, you see whenever they get injured, The company always tell them to perform on stage even though they're hurt. Tao foot got injured but he still had to perform and that will be worst for him. Lay, his wrist bleed but SM just gave him a bracelet to cover up the blood like wtf! Plus SM treats chinese members poorly and unfairly. They always favour koreans more, of course because they're korean as well! They wouldn't left exo if the company are willing to treat them better. Do you want to see them suffer?????? NOOOOOO!
@@loveseoulmarui1502 plus if you don't support ot12 . You're a fake exo l, you shouldn't have become an exo l in the 1st place. Mostly fake Korean exo l and other exo l.
I'm just glad that the 3 of them are reunited and are openly close to one another. And for those that think yixing isn't mistreated just because he's still in SM, you might want to think again lol
He is mistreated but he doesn't want to left them 🥺
Xiumin is the most mistreated check out exo m mvs and see how little lines or screentime he was given but he's not chinese so exols don't care
tbh everybody there was mistreated, but some just wanna break the contract and find a better way to make money
@@jacobbai9619 there's definitely a difference in degree for mistreatment. As foreign members, they weren't given as many opportunities as the korean members, exo-m was given barely any promotions compared to exo-k, even though exo-m was the unit that made them explode in china, one of their biggest markets, and having to adapt to a foreign culture and language is already hard enough on its own. It would be even more difficult for them to speak up about it. So I don't think it's fair to say that the korean members had it just as hard as the foreign members, even though they haven't had the best treatment for sure.
That hits hard!
Exo is facing so many issues since 2012.. But i still don't understand how they still remain in top and a big threat to other groups. They are doing this without proper promotions. Just imagine what will happn if sm promote this group and their biggest fanbase china get lift ban of kpop. Im pretty sure they can broke so many records
Exactly what I'm thinking ..Knowing that their fans is still growing everyday even at their hiatus times.Nominations from left and right even without comeback..They are really amazing.
Imagine China don't ban hallyu and blocked TH-cam in China.. Maybe exo MV views reach 1B
@@izzatnajmi1631 not true..
@@izzatnajmi1631 bilibili is china's ytube exo has 4.Billion views combined with official mvs, fancams and live performance but none or their mvs reach 1billion views
@@izzatnajmi1631 i know they are most streamed i'm talking the views on their official mvs none of has reach 1 billion views 90% chinese exols are solo stans they're they don't really care about views the most important thing for them is to buy their albums and to prepare ridiculous birthday present.
Now I really understand how the drama
"Brightest star in the sky" low-key reflects Z-Tao's actual music career and brutal music industry
I wanna cry for them 😭 now
It has got 50% true story of tao
Yaa I think the same
That was the first drama I have ever watched 🥺.
Kpop entertainment industry had a long history of discrimination non korean artist don't get same same limelight, endorsement, media attention as native artist like Blink non korean singer Lisa
I miss OT12, Kris is my bias and Luhan is my bias wrecker 😔 i got into EXO when growl came out and man those were the times. at first i didn't like EXO because i was more of a 2nd gen kpop even tho exo was 2nd gen? but i liked groups like OT5 TVXQ and Big bang n etc. but after listening to growl, i became a fan. I miss old EXO =( i will never forget about them. OT12 forever. ps i love tao too and my current bias in exo is D.O.
My bias is Luhan and Kris Wu now
Exo is 3rd Gen
Same, my current bias is also do
I still stream their MV's . . . they're timeless!
Same
I started listening to both BTS and EXO in August 2013, and you could tell how drastically EXO's momentum shifted after the others left. It didn't help that 2014-2016 were kind of bad years for K-pop and SM.It's a shame because by the time Tao left, the group was starting to find their footing (the "Call Me Baby" video? Peak charisma gold). I still love their music, as their albums are consistently solid, I just wonder where they'd be today if they'd been treated better by SM and got the rest that they deserved. Would there have been a need for SuperM if EXO was able to keep up their standing from their rookie years? Who knows?
I agree. SM should have promote EXO if they want to get into Us market. SM treated them like shit like Exo became their money lending machine. And talking about SuperM i don't get their music. It's not kpop. It's not sm standard nor exo standard. But still i support them coz of Baekhyun and Jongin. Um exol too since day one. Um happy bout exo's achievements ☺️
what do you mean the momentum shifted? I wasn't an EXO-L back then so idk but I'm curious as to what the perspective was like when they left. was it really unexpected?
I am curiuos too.If they were just been treated properly and given a proper promotions,....
SM doesn't promote EXO in the US, they are focused in Asia. And I'm really fine with that because EXO's music remained as it was from the beginning of their debut.
@@izzatnajmi1631 Don’t drag BTS to try to raise up EXO. BTS’ album artwork was nominated in 2019 and they are relevant in the US (they were already on the Billboard hot 100 top 10) that’s why they were invited. Not because EXO turned down the invitation. BTS were invited again in 2020 to perform with an American artist. Everything they’ve achieved in Asia and the US is on their own merit. It has nothing to do with EXO. We can support our favorites without bringing down others.
I'm happy for Kris, Luhan and Tao. They're not stuck in the past...so neither should those of us who love them be.
I admit, with Kris' departure alone broke my heart, and especially when Luhan and Tao too, I'm also felt relieved that they did. I'm happy that they choose themselves to become healthy and do whatever makes them happy. Leaving the company wouldn't be a hinderance in their brotherhood. I mean they've spent most of their lives together in a small dorm. I've witnessed how they mean for each other, and I'm sure they would support each other whenever their members are. They are the most supportive and happy people for exo and their korean and chinese soloists. They are the biggest fans of our idols (whether its exo, exo subnits, korean or chinese soloists).
🙂 I'm a new exol but I really miss OT12🙂💔
Remove emoji :(((
Same
girl I feel you :
Were same
Exo tried 8 yrs with 9 mmbes exo is 9:)
While I have no problems with Luhan and Tao, Kris leaving just moments away from their concert without any notice, and how the members suffered and had to readjust everything, be more exhausted, I will never forgive him for that.
@@umerayaz9836 maybe he could’ve warned his members so that they didn’t have to suffer last minute. Maybe he could’ve told his members instead of them finding out through the news. Well, he’s in jail now so I guess that shows his character.
If they didn’t leave, Exo would be more bigger.. They're still good, but if you see the performance difference 12 members vs now..you'll know, kris,luhan,Tao was such Talent
EXO power is insane even after losing 3 members (even EX-EXO are super huge individually), what if other kpop groups have to go through all these I doubt that they'll be able to do like EXO. (It Hurts so bad that I don't want any other kpop groups/ fandom to go through it)
Yeah. People always say those 3 left at the height of the groups popularity when that's simply not the case. Are people seriously forgetting how Exo was cheated in 2017 and should have sweeped the awards season? And that occurred after 3 members left. Or how even after 3 members left and Lay hasn't been active, the group still sells over a million physical albums each album(with the one exception happening because SM wouldn't restock the albums and yet they still managed to sell around 800,000 physical copies and that album didn't even have D.O. or Xiumin)and all of their solos and sub units usually sell over 200,000 physical copies. And that's with all the rumors they encountered over the years such as Baekhyun and Taeyeon or Kai and Krystal. And we can't forget that no amount of trying to convince fans to switch over to NCT succeeded until Super M was created and some Exo fans decided they would support NCT members since Baekhyun and Kai were in a unit with them. Now, after Super M, NCT is finally selling more physical albums.
Also, ex exo members helped provide the blueprint for the exo solo debuts, and other groups like NCT, BTS, etcetera. Because, Kris was over here collaborating with Travis Scott, Vin Diesel, fashion designers etcetera. Luhan was doing projects for Disney and costarring with Matt Damon. Tao also went down a similar path.
Granted I do recognize that older groups like Big Bang and JYJ and PSY were doing collaborations with western artists (such as Missy Elliott, Kanye, & Snoopdog) long before the ex-EXO members. So, they were probably the ones that helped influence the ex-EXO members.
My boys are perfect
New EXO fan since 2023 and I’m happy with the 9 members they currently have, although would love to see Lay promoting with them again soon. Let the past stay where it belongs..
I became fan of TAO after watching "The brightest star in the sky" but then I was not aware of kpop or EXO later I heard "Sweet Night" and fell in love with Taehyung and gradually I got to know about BTS n Kpop and then I got to know that TAO was a member of EXO..I literally cried for him but I still like EXO especially Kai n Baek but I am an ARMY..No matter what I will always support BTS & TAO..
I know it was your opinion, but it sounds kinda rude, why you have to said that you are ONLY standing tao and bts, like the other members aren't worthy, I mean, it's ok, good for you, but you don't have to say it in a EXO12 video...
If you are standing bts say that in one of their videos, if you are standing tao you can say you know tao and you are supporting him after his drama without this "ONLY" vibe 😢
Maybe it's just me but I found it a bit disrespectful, I hope you can understand and delete or edit your comment
I also one to say something I also like ztao after looking the brightest star in the sky I say wow this boy have a beautiful voice and now I look exo I say I have seen this boy before and now I have comment I really like exo ztao love you.
Tao 💗 I love him so much
Hi, fellow army. I got into them in a simillar way. Through Never gone by Kris. I knew about exo then but did not pay much attention as I was too busy with BTS. But after that movie, I looked Kris up and ended up in Growl. From there, Love shot, Monster, Power... And now I also support exo even though I am an army.
@@sanikasultana5350 yes I love and respect exo too and I am an ARMY too💜
It's just that if SM had treated all the EXO members equally then it would be a different story now😏.. I wish all the luck to Kris,Luhan and tao as well as other EXO members..
I really miss ot-12 but also sometimes think that they would become famous in exo but wouldn’t get their freedom.I am really proud of them that they left and decided to do a solo career as they are getting the freedom to do anything. I love this smart and intelligent guys.
They had guts to follow their dreams..
Luhan s songs have soulful lyrics...
If kris patience. I'm sure SM let him free like SM do to lay now. Lay become CEO now.. Doing well in China
Lulu and Kris was the most famous members back then and when they left, a lot of EXO-Ls also left the fandom.
But looking at the positive side, when 3 members left, some members that are over shadowed got their time to shine. I remember back then Sehun(my bias) doesn't have much Sehun stan compare to he is today, and that same goes to Chanyoel.
i thought lay also left the group?
@@honeybuttercheeps he is still in the group
Dont say that😭
Hes just inactive with exo activities because of problems with hallyu wave in china
my first bias was Lulu but now I love chanyeol
Yes they hurted exo so bad:)
@@loralili1704 no they didnt they had to leave bc of their health and mistreatment so yeah
The music business is brutal, and always in favor of the management companies, why so many willingly fling themselves into this financial hole is beyond me. If they were able to find a better situation elsewhere, good for them. Whether you want to admit it or not, non Koreans are treated differently in Korea, that's just the way it is, social change will inevitably happen, but it will be slow, and perhaps painful.
The music business really is brutal. I think most K-pop fans know about slave contracts, but K-pop idols goes through a lot more than those contracts. I think a trend we'll see in the future is more idols skipping the Big 3 to debut in other smaller or mid-sized labels that treat their idols better.
@@Popsori For the record, I know that these types of contracts are used in western countries as well, as to the other difficulties faced by Kpop artists, I'm well aware of the stress they go through on multiple levels, but combining that with this huge financial obligation hanging over your head, to me, that's the part that would be the last straw. It would be nice if management and artist could be mutually beneficial to each other on a more equal basis, a smaller company might fulfill that.
@@hanamoon5474 For sure, I wasn't trying to imply you didn't know these contracts. I was more arguing that for nearly all K-pop (as well as Western) label, it's heavily stacked against the new trainee.
I see a lot more idols fleeing the big, established, brand name labels a lot more often than 10 years ago in 2010. Smaller and mid-sized companies in K-pop can offer a lot more incentives to their idols (e.g. better profit splitting, more freedom, etc.), as well as be successful in today's K-pop scene.
@@Popsori I didn't mean to appear confrontational, at any rate, you or I don't have all the answers. I read many posts on fans opinions on management companies, when they really have no idea what goes on internally. I'm not a business person, but there has to be a better way. As to the smaller companies, MAMAMOO comes to mind, they seem to have more creative freedom, it will be interesting to see how they fare in the long run
For sure, I think there has to be a better way too. Although I'm more slanted towards the idols in most cases, I know that companies need to make profit too. It's a business after all and K-pop labels aren't charities.
I'd like to see how Rainbow Bridge World and other label smaller/mid-sized labels run their agencies.
I am still sad over this situation it makes me sad that SM has been a repeat offender of contract issues. 2013/14/15 was just not a good run for SM entertainment in general, I hope to see all the boys reunite one day so we can get like a celebration or something of one of the groups that cause a generational shift in kpop. Also how could you forget about Lay' his really big in China espically recently with his new album which is amazing. All I have to say is support all the boys cause they are all talented and amazing 😭
You're right that Lay has some bangers with his new album! I wanted to focus solely on the three EXO members that left, but Lay is big in China too 😀
Pls dont hate me i know lay love exo members so much.. But when im looking for the works he done when he solo.. Its great... His music video has a millions views... TH-cam is banned in china.. Yet hes still have so many views... Hes doing great now..
True 🤧
and the audacity other fandom saying exo is lame lmaoo if only sm treats em equally and fair... they’re the one would break everything
I am worried that this will happen to Lay also. Exo-ls pls love and be fair to Lay 🥺✨
SM should be fair. like for Kris, Luhan and Tao, They did not leave because of fans, they did not leave because of EXO, they left because of SM.
As an EXO-L since 2013 and a Luhan-biased, I still have hang ups on EXO OT12 but seeing them rise on their own careers, I'm happy.
I really missed Kris ,Tao and luhan
Yes I always missed them.
Everyone say when luhan exit half of the fandom did. Even my friends did. If they are still with exo i can't imagine how huge they would be
I'm a month old EXOL and was introduced to the group when they have 8 active members performing for "Loveshot" and I was blown away. I only recently knew about the issues about Kris, Luhan, and Tao.
I miss OT12, but I like how the Chinese members became independent and made names for themselves
And now Lay is not even promoting with them because of politics and he may potentially be banned in promoting with Exo for that same reason. Exo never had a break. Suffering from loss of 3 members, controversies and backlash now Lay and the military. They cried during the ment in Exploration. A lot of Exo-Ls feel doomed even though we might not say it. Nevertheless I will wait as Junmyeon said that If you're happy to wait then it's Love.
All i'll do is Wait.
Debuting chinese members is a mistake. If exo are all non-problematic korean members they'll be as huge as bts in the west.
@@tokyoscavenger2811 or if their company was kinder, BTS are given a lot of freedom and are treated like family
@@nikiwe1307 lu han was treated nicely but he become a big star in china that big chinese companies (bigger and richer than SM) chased him and offer him $$$$ so he betrayed his group and terminated his contract then start to accept numerous chinese projects what he did was illegal that even the beijing court sided with SM and dismiss his lawsuit.
Lay already invole in latest comeback..please support them
Lay is apart of this comeback
I could tell a lot of effort went into this video! Nice job
For kpop stans who don’t know or who still think that every entertainment agency treat their artists well, think again. They might make it look like they cherish a non-Korean artist, but if that particular artist is famous, they will “cherish” that person not because they respect him/her that much, but because the money that they can get from him/her is a huge help for them. Look at it closely, there’s always and I mean always a difference in treatment between a Korean and non-korean artists. People may deny it because their bias would be hit by the truth, but it’s going to be obvious. 😌 Anyway, support and focus on your faves.
This was really informative and I really appreciate your depth of facts and knowledge. Excellent work and thank you for putting this video together.
Awesome video! Thank you so much for sharing!
these 3 precious gems never deserve such maltreatment. Right people at the right group but at the wrong agency
I remember when they left, everybody thought that they were over and would go down eventually but they still dominated those following years (half of the generation). Much respect for EXO. I can now understand why i don't get a lot of hype in the overdose song or era.because it was indeed a sad year for EXO.
Great video!!! I appreciated that you presented both positive side of those members leaving and the continued success of EXO. I think in the end, the ambition of each member is what keeps them going. No amount of money is enough to replace passion. Discipline with overtake motivation every time.
Thank you for the kind words. Really humbled! As for EXO, I think both EXO and the three Chinese members did what's best for them. They're both wildly successful today, so I'm happy for both of them.
I can't believe I am crying over this. I mean, I've already accepted the situation years ago but it still pull strings in my heart. 😭
I really miss you guys 🥺
Kris 💖zitao💞 and luhan❤
🥺🥺🥺😭😟🥺
Woah... Thank you for this video, it really open my eyes about kpop industry, especially SM (toxic company)
Now i dont blame them for leaving, great choice i think
No problem at all! Thank you for watching 😀
What’s sad is that many new EXO-L and people don’t actually know that EXO originally consisted of 12 members.Even I didn’t know and I have been a EXO-L for 2 years
Whatttt
U didnt knew for 2 years
Well i hav been a fan since a few months and in the beginning i had this habit of counting the members in every group pics
It hurts i know😢
@@teri3585 It’s because no one really talked about them
@@rainbowpoop670 still could have figured the numbers in earlier mvs specially growl that legendary song
@@teri3585 When I first joined kpop everyone looked the same to me
Most of the new fans know OT12 cause it has been sensational once. And they all carry a huge fanbase! I'm not an Exol but I know most about exo way back. May be you haven't googled. But most have done that.
Knowing that kris, luhan and tao became successfull is so fulfilling. They're talent is incredible and should not be wasted ❤ however I still felt a bit empty and sad :
i can hide my tears as long as they are happy...BUT i will miss them forever..Remember? weareone....
You really work hard for making this video.tank you so much.i really respect you👍👌👏👏👏🇵🇰
It was heart breaking, but seeing them being OK makes me happy 😊
that time...im addicted to growl. i downloaded some of thier video from computer shop that time and watch it on my phone. . thats how crazy i am to them
the only thing Im holding on to right now is that the 3 of them still get in touch with each other as well as the 9 remaining members. Being able to remain close like that even after having to leave a group of people you've tresured for so many years is just fulfilling in its way.I mean... no frienship was ever broken between the group. It is still 12 of them no matter what
I don't know about them so much yaa but i saw luhan nd chris in dramas . After knowing that they are ex k-pop artists nd left their group due to their company i feel really bad but I'm happy that they are doing well now❤. But it was a really tough decision to leave their group for them , i think they miss their old days coz we can't forget our past ryt.
Not everybody wants to put up with nonsense there comes a point in your life that you must walk away before you lose your mind.
I really miss them a lot I hope that SM will learn from their loss.
THEY DESERVE MORE
OT 12 i still miss this
Kris was my bias i still follow his songs and movies.
Sorry but wasn’t he charged for r@pe? That’s quite awful if you’re still supporting him after that
@@catnottoe i believe it was all fake, on twitter there's a lot of proof the "victims" lied and there's evidence he actually went to court and was charged but there's no update on him
@@lindatruong8199 he got arrested....
@@tkp97 well Ik now…
Love you TAOOOO
ITS SAD THAT KRIS GONE
i'm really happy for them and for their decisions. i hope they can keep on shining and take care of their health better!
U guys:)
Thery 3 are happy and the oone still hurting is exo
yes, its partly true that you'd be a fool not to take an offered job which is way more better in terms of location, pay, more freedom and etc. but still salute to Lay who endured everything and chose to stay despite every hardships he's been through especially as being the only Chinese member left in the group, for choosing EXO over the bigger opportunities and money that was offered to him. Well, look at him now, his achievements, it all paid off! Just sharing some thoughts hehe. Still happy for the achievements of the 3 ex members and the unforgettable memories they have made with the group. Hoping for an OT12 moment in the future!
We need to appreciate Yixing More! All the love and support to exo ot9!!!
Not all of them left for money or big opportunities,Tao left because of his health problems,plus his father forced him to leave,he was already the heir of billions
I miss them so much but what can we do if they wish to leave, besides they're happy with their own career now. All we can do as of the moment is to pray and wish them to take care of themselves and luck to their journeys.🤗🤗
Sweet combat and brightest star in the sky
I wish one day all exo 12 group could meet and give a stage performance
I really miss exo tao and luhan🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭
Very informative!
thank you for your explanation
I really miss three members and memories they left in exo in whole world
Just wanted to thank everyone that's watched the video. I really appreciate it and is humbling that so many people watched it.
As for some EXO-Ls that are saying, "OMG, yOu OnLy LiStEnEd To Growl 80 TiMeS!?!?" stop being elitist K-pop fans. I'm not an EXO-L. For people that aren't EXO fans, that number is a lot.
I actually covered over 80 EXO concerts as press. After looking at video footage from 2013-2014 from covering EXO, I vastly underestimated the number of times I had to listen to "Growl." I played it too safe. I can definitely say I heard that song probably more than 5x times.
But the actual number doesn't matter; it's not a competition of "who's the better EXO-L fan," even though I'm not one myself. Just don't be an elitist K-pop fan. It's cringe.
Its okay...
Anyway I Stan exo at that time. Exo were so popular even in our state Mizoram,India. We would have their keychain,photos,and many more at school. Every students were crazy for them.
But when the members disappear one by one...I can say their popularity goes down and at time BTS debut....so I could clearly say we shift to BTS. Like BTS got the chance, I can say if EXO members were still full, BTS won't be this much famous, like international, EXO would take that all.
That was what happened in our area..I don't know what happened in other countries,the very clear thing is that I Stan KRIS, he's my bias, but when he leave, I was so sad, I cried the whole day and my hatred goes towards SM, like I said before I was young at that time.. Young students were highly influenced by kpop. So I can't Stan EXO anymore because I was so sad. So I shifted to BTS, like they were good too. Very good,
@@a34rosangpuii77 That makes sense why you moved from EXO to BTS. From your story, I can understand why you felt frustrated with SM and why you felt sad.
Thanks for being a mature, awesome EXO-L and now ARMY.
@@Popsori thanks for understanding, I'm not fluent In English so I can't pour all my heart by this language.
I still remember at that time I know BTS music..I listen too..and I Stan them too, but my priority goes to EXO. Its something like that,when unwanted situations happened towards exo, most people shifted to BTS.
I relly miss tao luhan kriss
We can see more of their values after... this is much better than seeing them in pain. Quite glad of their state roght now❤️
Luhan was my first bias
Hopefully we'll see them together once their contract ends next year 🤞🤞🤞
Luhan legit looks like Suho and Sehun ;-; ♡
Now I know about EXO ...thanks for sharing...there were only 3 Chinese singers in that group so sad that they have to leave, but happy on the other hand because their hearts' desire were realized...let's support them then especially ZTao to improve his ranking he is full of zest in performing...
I miss them all....
"Between kpop stars and us normies" THEY ARE NORMAL PEOPLE TOO!!!
They ain't no different they eat they sleep plus many more
The life of a kpop star and a regular person is drastically different which is what I think he meant
Um yeah, but they don’t live the life “normal”people do. Although I think they should be treated like normal people, let’s admit it, they’re not.
@@gxld_599 exactly
yeah, gave me big "im not like other girls" energy-
@@gxld_599
actually no, the "normies" are in some fandoms too, so being a kpop fan isn't that "different" or "unique".
I only know and stan EXO for 2 yrs but bec of many EXOLs I've known OT12 and I may not be there when they started but still hoping to see them all in one stage, may it be as the whole group or as individual celebrities. Just happy the three of them are all successful in China and just happy to see all of them together last yr in one show.
Crying over this vedio💔💔
#OT12 ♡❤ LOVE THEM ALL
#EXOL ❤
Like most of all I became an exol after the "Growl " I was in highschool
Luhan and Kris Wu are my fav singers..
I'll check out Tao too
Ztao - he is my favorite C actor singer and rapper .
I miss ot12 uwu, Tao was my bias up until now still, he is. Am I the only one who imagine things like, one day I hope they will reunite again? Because I still believe that "WE ARE ONE."
I'm new a exo 12 fan. I loved the growl after 9 yrs hahaha. I missed half of my life because I've just loved them so late..
I heard growl 400 times
They also popular here also in Philippines ❤️❤️❤️🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
While I really do miss OT 12, even though I’ve never had the chance to see them live, I’m glad for the decisions that they made to “save themselves“. I honestly believe that, overtime“ the nine performing members have also “buried the hatchet“ with the three former members. We have to remember that these boys grew up together and leaned on each other heavily before their debut and not too long after their debuts. All they really had was each other. I honestly believe that they are still family, even though they’re not all performing together. I believe that the members of EXO deeply care for each other and after the dust settled, everyone saw things clearly. Even though I miss them like nobody’s business, I am so proud of and glad that Tao, Luhan and Kris made the decisions that they did.
i will really miss those three members
Exo is still best,to me
I was only 9 when exo debuted and they were one of the reasons why I got into Kpop. When kris, luhan, and Tao left I was so broken. I remember Tao stating that he only gets 4 hours of sleep every night, I didn’t understand at that time. Now that I’ve grown, I’m glad they left sm. The kpop industry is so corrupt
Interesting piece. Love the phrase "normies". I'm going to throw in an opinion on the 'exiting issue. You are right, corporate employees do hold their own interests as important, yet when adults are old enough to be corporate employees, they've usually had enough normal day to day experience of keeping with a steady job long enough to see it to a natural conclusion. I think there is merit in being held to an employment contract as an Idol. Not only the cost saving of changing merchandise etc, but the Group dynamics. Choreography is a practical aspect yet the emotional tug of the heart strings, the distraction from routines, the uncertainty of feeling as though remaining members are put in the middle of arguing sides, makes really difficult times when they want to be supportive yet have to be loyal to their Management as members who are staying. It is a difficult decision, leaving a group & cutting short a contract. Maybe the Management could (forgive me, I don't know whether this exists), maybe it does yet could use some reviewing and improvement, maybe the Management could look at updating the contract clause describing the exit strategies. It is helpful (& typically essential) to make sure each Signatory to a contract understands the contract. These need to include any cost requirements that a leaver would incur. Where the exit strategy clauses are better understood, maybe the discussion opportunities need reviewing to ensure that sufficient opportunity exists to give Idols a chance to air any disputes and follow through with more thought out decisions in a more mutually agreeable way. This would save the feelings of the Management and the remaining members and those chosing to leave. In the same way that a Management Agency has a great Legal Dept., they also have obligations to ensure that potential disruptions are smoothed, to protect the business side of the Group(s). Typical 1st rule of business, and that is what an Industry does, is to create profit(s). Being 'defensive against accusations' could be interpreted as being less willing to resolve problems. That 'unwillingness' could be used by the smartest legal opponents as leverage that says a Management Agency doesn't intent to protect the well being of a Group or its members in the event of problems escalating that affect them all. Thus, it is in the Agency's interests to be diplomatic in resolving difficulties as smoothly as possible, to protect the remaining Group's capacity & the members well-being and the Agency's reputation and to save future legal costs. A smart contract writer could save them millions and help younger Artists understand how to reach amicable resolution and progress concerns into solutions. 👄
I really miss you 12 members
thanks for treating kpop artistes as real human beings, something SM clearly wasn't interested in doing. and thanks for such a real video, your passion really shows thru. I'll be keeping an eye on your channel, peace.
Appreciate the kind words! Means a ton. Thanks and peace!
Napunta ako dito because of Tao ❣️ ' ah ganun pala.
Huang Zi Tao best actor from The Brightest Star In The Sky
I watched this also and the negotiator ( but . . . no english sub only).
They rising so much even though sm didn't promote them properly.Imagine if sm promote them properly🥺🥺
3:24 I swear Luhan looks like an animated character here.
I really missed them,,
I was finding the picture so many times now I found at 2:10
After hearing Tao's interview regarding his trainee days.. And Kris' radio guesting, where it happens that they talk about kpop era.. It rings a bell on how both happens to said the same thing that they wanted to showcase C-music and that they're Chinese. Also how they wanted people to hear Chinese music as well. That they get to perform and sing C-music wherever, without anyone telling them what they need to do. I guess the reason why they felt mistreated is that they also wanted to do C-music and perform it on stage and on their concerts but whenever they're on tour and promoting, mostly their song is performed in korean version and less Chinese version because that's what the company wants them to do. I think that they really want to be known and perform as an EXO but also wants to be recognized as a C-artist/idol and not just K-artist/idol and able to sing Chinese songs 'cause they're Chinese and not Korean. So i guess, maybe that is why they felt a bit unfair and out of place. Because mostly, the sides were all in favor in Korean and less Mandarin whenever they go out as a whole group.
But they were joining Korean pop/K-pop at that time not cpop so its very obvious that the company will tell them to make Korean songs instead of Chinese ones.
No matter what EXO is 12 in my heart ❤️
I really missed them!if they didn't left every stage they perform will be heat for having 12 handsome exo members aghhhhh....I just love them 😍
It would be cool if you would have talked about Lay and the Chinese members but I still enjoyed the video 👍
I remember kris is my first bias !!
Bruh ong I loved Kris 😭😭😭 I still love him.