According to the Troth, they published a recent article from their Twitter or X page that the Kings utilized Christianity as a means of control and rather it wasn't really about religion at all. What are your thoughts on this?
Like anything in history, such situations are generally more nuanced. It is true that many pagan lords converted to Christianity to confiscate from pagan priests ( this is especially true of the Slavic lands). On the other hand, does this mean Olav didn't really believe in Christianity? No. In fact, if he really was a Christian, then being a king of a pagan country would have come with more of a dilemma. At absolute best, his pagan subjects would have expected him to partake in pagan sacrifices and rites (which is absolutely forbidden under Catholic theology) or at worst, Olav would have simply been overthrown. And couple this with a very different moral attitude towards war and violence held by medevial Christianity versus modern Christianity, in which war against non-Christian cultures was seen as absolutely justified (or even spiritually healthy), his actions make more since. And being a northman warrior and adventurer himself, he was no stranger to violence, and would have probably seen killing for religion as far more righteous than killing for money and land as was common in his culture.
@@exileenthroned Do you believe that Olav was actually Christian or that he was a crypto-pagan who merely used Christianity as a tool for power? As many other medieval European states were in the process of conversion or already were. However, I read somewhere that Greece in the 9th AD still had pockets of pagan worshippers and even in the 14th there was a Greek crypto-pagan called Georgios Gemisto Plethon. Hence, it would be more easy to speculate that the noble converted as a means of power. Throughout European history, much of the monarchs would intermarry with one another. A good example was how King George V of England looked nearly identical to Tsar Nicholas of Russia and they were fourth or fifth cousins.
This is not the "saint". That was another, a generation later Olaf. Yet another nasty forced converter. They both reapt the storm for the wind they had sown.
I've been seeing and saying for years that it feels like a new religion is taking over and i feel like the pagans might have felt, seeing this fresh hell coming over the horizon.
Hey dude love your contend ! Im new to the norse paganism but i can't seem to stop looking stuff up about it , i find it super interesting and the way you bring it is a no bullshit approach its great ! I have a small question about your shop that is comming back online the 18th this month because i was planning on buying a Mjölnir from your online shop so i can support you and what your doing but is there a diff with your amazon shop and your personal one ? Kind regards from Belg
Adam of Bremen said that he practiced Seidr. He read omens from birds and he was in company with other seidmenn. His nick name was Olav Crowleg because of this. This resonates with Odins shamanic practice of seidr. I think he played both sides to his own benefit. Would Odin do anything less?
The Norwegian "Vikings" were the least successful Vikings. They never managed to conquer from other peoples, and when they tried they always failed. They were however the most successful explorers and settlers. Since because they couldn't take from others, they had to claim the unclaimed. It was the Danes who succeeded in conquering all of England, much of Ireland, and all of Normandy.
The story about 3 unsuccessful speakers might be completely made up as to why they were ultimately unsuccessful. While some old norse christians were much more merciful to the old faith as to write the myths down, one must not forget they were still christians, so they praised their heroes and smeared their enemies in the sagas. Yeah, Trondheim's Jarnskeggi might have been more cautious, but he was dealing with the rightful king, descendant of Fairhair, and didn't see the convert's treason.
A real man would say: you can not stop me if you are taking my child as hostage, I will create new ones. I can not understand how all the norse people could be out-tricked one by one...
thumbs up! Same scenario happening now ( again ) in Norway. Minorities changing what is "acceptable" and whats not. little by little changing our law, social norms etc, with great help of "our" politicians.. Even the recent celebration of Olav in Trondheim "Nidarosdomen" was subjected to be about refugees from Syria, instead of actually be about Olav.. But hey, cant talk, or criticize anything here in this country without being called a misogynist racist.. let alone speak of your heritage.. " god" forbid that you are a man.. must be tough for young boys now, growing up as eunuchs..
Why do you make no mention of the law that the Vatican passed that caused all of this tumult? The very same law is what caused the Greenland Vikings to starve to death. Rome/the Christians /Vatican passed a law that no Christians could do business with non Christians. So because Rome had all of the money ,it was a case if you want to have a economy it going to have to be Christian! If you look at it for what it's worth, everyone on the planet got the same deal. Convert to Christianity, or we wonder kind and loving Christians are goning to be sure that you starve to death. That was the deal! Why does no one speak of it?
Time and time again, the Christian religion made the people submit. The shame is that the people didn't write their history, starting with Charlemagne.
Great video as always! Remember the Vista Viking Festival is Sept 16th and 17th
A good lesson on what happens when good men do nothing. Never make peace with evil, destroy it.
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According to the Troth, they published a recent article from their Twitter or X page that the Kings utilized Christianity as a means of control and rather it wasn't really about religion at all. What are your thoughts on this?
all religion is for control.
ofcourse just like today
Power, wealth and control. Securing 'possible' future threats. By any means necessary.
Like anything in history, such situations are generally more nuanced. It is true that many pagan lords converted to Christianity to confiscate from pagan priests ( this is especially true of the Slavic lands). On the other hand, does this mean Olav didn't really believe in Christianity? No. In fact, if he really was a Christian, then being a king of a pagan country would have come with more of a dilemma. At absolute best, his pagan subjects would have expected him to partake in pagan sacrifices and rites (which is absolutely forbidden under Catholic theology) or at worst, Olav would have simply been overthrown. And couple this with a very different moral attitude towards war and violence held by medevial Christianity versus modern Christianity, in which war against non-Christian cultures was seen as absolutely justified (or even spiritually healthy), his actions make more since. And being a northman warrior and adventurer himself, he was no stranger to violence, and would have probably seen killing for religion as far more righteous than killing for money and land as was common in his culture.
@@exileenthroned Do you believe that Olav was actually Christian or that he was a crypto-pagan who merely used Christianity as a tool for power? As many other medieval European states were in the process of conversion or already were. However, I read somewhere that Greece in the 9th AD still had pockets of pagan worshippers and even in the 14th there was a Greek crypto-pagan called Georgios Gemisto Plethon. Hence, it would be more easy to speculate that the noble converted as a means of power. Throughout European history, much of the monarchs would intermarry with one another. A good example was how King George V of England looked nearly identical to Tsar Nicholas of Russia and they were fourth or fifth cousins.
Excellent series
Olav........ our Trondheim family proudly fought this "saint".(family lore!) Very stubborn people.
This is not the "saint". That was another, a generation later Olaf. Yet another nasty forced converter. They both reapt the storm for the wind they had sown.
Love me St. Olav
Great video!
Taking advantage of peoples goodwill...sure sounds similar to today alright.
Yes my homeland Sweden is nr 1 at this
Lovin" it!
History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
Please make one video on 3 to 4 thousand years agos Scandinavias history like Kings and peoples 😊💯💯💯
That's infuriating. The trusting ones get ffd over.
Thanks for the good video
I've been seeing and saying for years that it feels like a new religion is taking over and i feel like the pagans might have felt, seeing this fresh hell coming over the horizon.
Hey dude love your contend ! Im new to the norse paganism but i can't seem to stop looking stuff up about it , i find it super interesting and the way you bring it is a no bullshit approach its great !
I have a small question about your shop that is comming back online the 18th this month because i was planning on buying a Mjölnir from your online shop so i can support you and what your doing but is there a diff with your amazon shop and your personal one ?
Kind regards from Belg
Adam of Bremen said that he practiced Seidr. He read omens from birds and he was in company with other seidmenn. His nick name was Olav Crowleg because of this. This resonates with Odins shamanic practice of seidr.
I think he played both sides to his own benefit. Would Odin do anything less?
The Norwegian "Vikings" were the least successful Vikings. They never managed to conquer from other peoples, and when they tried they always failed. They were however the most successful explorers and settlers. Since because they couldn't take from others, they had to claim the unclaimed.
It was the Danes who succeeded in conquering all of England, much of Ireland, and all of Normandy.
The story about 3 unsuccessful speakers might be completely made up as to why they were ultimately unsuccessful. While some old norse christians were much more merciful to the old faith as to write the myths down, one must not forget they were still christians, so they praised their heroes and smeared their enemies in the sagas.
Yeah, Trondheim's Jarnskeggi might have been more cautious, but he was dealing with the rightful king, descendant of Fairhair, and didn't see the convert's treason.
A real man would say: you can not stop me if you are taking my child as hostage, I will create new ones. I can not understand how all the norse people could be out-tricked one by one...
Those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still.
Pagan we are winning and getting stronger 🇬🇧👍
so christianity makes a man to be coward.
thumbs up!
Same scenario happening now ( again ) in Norway. Minorities changing what is "acceptable" and whats not.
little by little changing our law, social norms etc, with great help of "our" politicians.. Even the recent celebration of Olav in Trondheim "Nidarosdomen" was subjected to be about refugees from Syria, instead of actually be about Olav.. But hey, cant talk, or criticize anything here in this country without being called a misogynist racist.. let alone speak of your heritage.. " god" forbid that you are a man.. must be tough for young boys now, growing up as eunuchs..
Why do you make no mention of the law that the Vatican passed that caused all of this tumult? The very same law is what caused the Greenland Vikings to starve to death.
Rome/the Christians /Vatican passed a law that no Christians could do business with non Christians. So because Rome had all of the money ,it was a case if you want to have a economy it going to have to be Christian!
If you look at it for what it's worth, everyone on the planet got the same deal. Convert to Christianity, or we wonder kind and loving Christians are goning to be sure that you starve to death.
That was the deal! Why does no one speak of it?
Interesting, do you happen to know the name of the law?
FREYJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Time and time again, the Christian religion made the people submit. The shame is that the people didn't write their history, starting with Charlemagne.
Easy to baptise the norwegians in other words 🤭
That funny to you
Who animated your characters?