It happens to all of us. Last season I played a bunch of times with E6 roster and we died many times without even dealing damage. Slayers was #3 at the time I think :D I also played with stormen a lot and we died so many times sometimes even directly after landing! @@ortega9156
@@NowakPif they improve FPS then sure but if not they shouldn't touch it. AA on console isn't a problem, the only people that beam are the ones who are good.
Lol you need to realise not enough people play this game all the time to make ranked lobbies locked to only one rank 😂 you would be waiting 20 minutes for a ranked lobby in plat and gold if they locked it to only one rank. Apex is dying and not popular, come to terms with it.
@@percnowitzki1724😂 yet they have the fuking gaul to add a 400 dollar micro transaction and these dumb asses are eating it up right out of daddy ea's palm
no. every game hides ranks so there is less bullying. That's it. There is no conspiracy around hiding ranks to hide matchmaking. its literally just bc they don't want people flaming eachother. Which imo is 100x worse.
it's not terrible, sweet is top player in the world, his kill death ratio's is very high even if he sucks on console, he belongs in pred lobbies :) L2p
there is absolutely no argument that this system is not horrifically bad. He played on a brand new account in this challenge. And my 2.5kd ass has had the exact same #1 pred stack in every game from silver to masters this season. @@DailyConsumerHub
@gekke1252 bruh hes on a console account with none of his data and even if you get a high k/d ration that just means you should be ranking up faster not slower. I cant believe people still think this rank system is even good in the first place when its complete shit and all i see are rats or pred 3 stacks. Good example is the number 4 pred on pc is a rat/zone abuser, your telling me i guy that has 5 kills, yes thats all he has last i checked, deserves number 4 pred. Tf
@@Kinzez not only that, but his teammates werent nowhere near that skill level, so its even worst. Its just a grind fest, no rewards in ranking up and improving. And yeah, lets not even get started about the rat predator, its whats respawn wanted apparently lol
This is an understandable point of view but I disagree because pro players do speak out about how shit the matchmaking is, they want to be a high ranking and while them playing ranked is inherently making ranked harder for lower ranked people, it’s respawns fault that the game is like that, and the pros really don’t have anything they can do about that.
It doesn't need to have a win if you have a good game with decent amount of kills ect they start que with them and you pair with one or two new accounts
Makes it impossible to get to their level when they're smashing you before you can even learn all the tricks they learned in season 1 when everyone was a noob and played bad.
It's not even that console lobbies are hard its just the mmr system is extremely fucked when you get actual good matches through skill or luck then game says "NAH we putting a halt on yo ass"
Not to mention how poorly optimised it is on console, he had pocket loss left right centre nearly every game. Then there’s 60fps for a competitive game that’s been out 5 years.
Yeah sweet literally doesn’t play controller going against press n masters players solo queueing and you’ll still be hearing the console players using this as an argument for whatever they come up with
@@KevinZePanda"literally doesn't play controller" he literally has entire streams of him playing controller in ranked. He beat hal in a PK 1v1 to 20 last year and has so many video examples playing controller on multiple channels if you search it up. Also a pro player guiding his randoms in game chat.
I’m genuinely missing how fun this game used to be like season 1-8 I enjoyed this game and got like gold and plat when I started playing ranked in season 7 and 8 which is when I finally played more consistently and competitively,and finally solo q’d to diamond for the first time in season 13 with dwindling hope for the game to be fun because it was already hell with that season,and by season 15 I was playing a smaller amount of time just by not only growing up a little more because around that time I had gotten into highschool barley,and I stopped playing ranked around that time because it was starting to be horrible,and after around season 18 I got to playing once a week maybe and now for the last 6 or so months,played like maybe once every two or three weeks just solo no filling duos and on occasion trios and it’s just people who are triple stacking pubs with who are all preds and masters ranked,and seeing this gameplay of sweet in gold definitely nowhere near a preds skill and getting them in silver and gold lobbies makes me happy the last time I played apex a month I loaded in and looked at the screen and thought about it and just ended up closing the game,and genuinely I have more fun on apex just messing around shooting dummies in the firing range than playing any actual games,im so glad the finals came around because I feel at least a little bit of fun playing video games again and shooters in general
That always really pisses me off. Me and my pred three stack never go into pubs running it down lol. Maybe once a month we decide to hop into a pubs for a single game to warm up, but we don’t really even do that, we just go into the range. I really hate no filling pubs trying to drop a 20 bomb only to run into a sweaty group of three stacking nerdy preds or masters. Like go play ranked if you are gonna take pubs that seriously. People are so cringe in apex
@@BigFlipz509 No reason to shit on people that play with friends tho. Happened to me in rl, i was simply better without even trying, but people that are worst than you think you are tryharding. I prefer to be shit on by a 3 stack predators that full send me than to play campers in pubs playing like algs
They probably will remove the challange to win from platinum to diamond or at least give it a second option and they probably will adjust the wasted points when you win a game and you are only 5LP away from your challange to rank up the game only gives you 5LP and then you have to win again and wasted 245LP for nothing wich right now is stupid. This season we almost have as many people in master then we had last season and this season still has a month to go. We will have more master players this season then we had last season!
Week 1 solo q player, stopped playing at this point. But what I learnt with Apex is it takes one step forward and three steps back. S20 will be a massive let down mark my words.
@@silverslims95 I only play solo q ranked and I am pretty much always master by week 2. I don't tihnk season 20 will be much different when there is nothing that shakes up the game but I also have almost 3500 hours in the game so its starting to get stale no matter what :D I am waiting for stalker 2 at this point... I hope it will be good!
IGL is super frustrating because most of the time you don't have an issue taking responsibility for making a bad call and getting everyone killed, but when you make a call, it needs to be NOW. People hesitate for even 2-5 seconds and then blame you. Shoot at 4 squads, get all 4 shooting at you, then say, "We were in a bad spot." No, you made it a bad spot when you did 20-40 damage on every team in the lobby so they shot back at us. Micro-managing your squadmates is so huge and most people are clueless to how difficult IGL actually is.
I just feel like if my hidden mmr is going to put me against diamond+ players then i should just be placed in diamond rank after placement matches lol. Wtf is the point of a ranked system if you don't play people of the same rank.
If my hidden MMR is going to stack me agains 3 stack masters and pred over and over the game should give me a team at least near my MMR and not give me team mates that land, "loot" takes 5 min looting and fixing inventory to end up running a P2020 or Mozambique.
It’s really really good for the console community. But no pro wants to play on console. None of them. Sweet did because he was sponsored and didn’t mind learning controller, but 60fps to a pro is god awful. Among many many other things. Not worth it for them. But it would be cool to see a cracked roller player fight a cracked console top Pred cheater!
@ChiefDramatic its good for EVERYONE. I play on pc and I have been going against fcking itztimmy, enoch, LG and a fck ton of top professional players since silver 2.
As a 4x console Pred, I feel his pain. I solo queued to Pred for the very first time in season 15, and until then, I thought the top console Preds were just like PC Preds. Just genuinely good players. Well, that was only partially true. I’m a top Pred, I play with top #5 Preds all the time, and so when I say that 80% of all the Preds on console cheat, it’s not even close to being an inaccurate number. They ALL cheat, and it’s NOT a strike pack. A strike pack is NOTHING compared to the device I shall not name that they use. Anyways, some of these Preds on console do some really really cringey stuff, so I’m not surprised they stream sniped sweet at all. I’m very glad sweet played on console for the very fact he is bringing to light how bad console is, and sharing our suffering with the rest of the world. 60fps is god awful, the cheating is rampant, and even as a Pred who runs through lobbies everyday, fighting brain dead lobbies who push everything with no thought behind it is frustrating af. So I’m glad sweet played even though he suffered!
This is exactly why I stopped playing apex. The game is no longer rewarding in regard to skill development. The MMR system is so fucked up it actually punishes you for it. After over 3 years of grinding solo ranked; I only watch pro league shit now.
yup I’ll only touch the respawn gamemodes til it gets to gun run and happily get off. why play it when I can just watch people that can actually put up w this
Story of my life, my team is shit, other teams are 3stack masters, preds and 20bomb bandits! And I think to myself Am I that good??? What did I do to deserve these lobbies 😢
that is the problem, Apex is about money, preds that are streamers going to be match against the low level just to make the game looks good and easy so they attract more people thats equals more money, the game is and was never about skills, you can't use the words skills and aim assist in the same sentence .
This is the story of my life no3 7 & 13 Pred champ squad in my Silver Lobbies. Learnt not to complain playing on 200ping in South Africa... Funny seeing a pro player struggling like we do 😂😂😂
Been saying this since last season there’s zero sense of progression when your lobbies are just as hard in silver as they are in d1. Makes it so rank is a reflection of time spent grinding and not skill
It exists for the other side of the coin, since there is no low mmr penalty the reverse also happens which is why we had so many masters the first season of this trash, a .05 kd player can make his way to masters playing nothing but true bronze players, between this and the lack of variety of matchmaking in the strict sbmm pubs that don't allow you to play unranked with friends of varying skill levels! This game will just keep hemorrhaging players as it is currently
I actually rate Sweet so highly for not only exposing how flawed the Season 17 ranked system was, but for trying console and highlighting how miserable an experience it is for so many of us regular 9-5 work/school going gamers. Respawn seriously needs to improve this system, or my preferred thing would be to scrap hidden MMR ranked all together.
I Take No Joy In Seeing Him Have To Deal With The Stuff That We Console Players Have To Deal With, But It Does Feel Good To Know That Someone As Good As Him Has THE SAME Experience Us Non-Pros Have Because While He Signed Up For This, Alot Of Us Don’t Have Other Pro Friends We Can Party Up With And Rely On Them To Win All Their 1s And Know We Don’t Have To Carry All Game, Every Game
I'm glad he got to see what it's like to try and solo ranked in this system. It's actually terrible what the "hidden MMR" does, you end up in silver/gold off the rip and you end up playing against masters/preds but get no more RP for winning in a touger lobby. Bring Season 13 split 1 ranked back, most balanced and rewarding system we had and the only issue was self revive which has been removed entirely from the game
That first clip of the guys not listening to a sweet has to say is exactly why I stopped playing this game on Console. People on there just do not listen and always want to do whatever they think is best.
This is exactly what I experienced when soloQing. Being in Gold/Plat rank and getting put with lower ranked teammates every match and facing nonstop Masters and Preds. I played from Day 1 launch but finally stopped playing around 3 weeks into season 17. Surprised more ppl havent quit tbh. Matchmaking is so broken. Im probably a plat/diamond skilled player (game sense/tactics more so than mechanical skill) and I should literally never be seeing a pred player. Respawns hard stance to keep que times extremely low ruined this game imo. Preds/masters should have higher que times to pool them all together and keep them out of Diamond and below lobbies. Maybe a solo Qing masters or pred gets tossed into a Diamond lobby but that should be a rarity.
I hate it when they know it's bad and not gonna change it probably until next season, Not like games from riot they changed things everytime if it were good or bad
Console players go through a lot like getting multiple 3-stack preds per ranked game as silver-gold, brain-dead teammates, and sbmm not working at all in pubs, ranked, or party modes
@@xora8366this isn’t true. My friends are I are on console and managed to get together about twice a week to play, we are all in silver. Yet almost every game I will see at least one three stack pred trail on drop. We can still have some good games and enjoy playing but I don’t understand why it mixes three stack pred teams with casuals that play a couple of times a week?
@@UKIntegralmao..... That team you're playing is on a terrible streak. I haven't played in months due to having a newborn but because I've been pred/masters and nearly 30k kills. Every game I go into in pubs EVERY team is pred or master. I played ranked the other day for the first time and I was in pred lobbies when I haven't even placed. It's just mmr. The games a joke be happy you come against 1or2 in a lobby not 50k minimum players every time
some people do like a challenge its why i shit on generic master every 1v1 but cant even get in diamond solo qing bc i refuse to spend that much time ratting and shit @@ChronicalV
Yeah I'll be honest. I'm one of those teammates that does 20 damage. I don't understand why I get put in those kind of lobbies either. I haven't played in 3 weeks. If I hopped on now, I'd be there being that useless teammate for you (you on ps4?). Even when I do play consistently, it's only 2 days a week on the weekends. When I play with my friends I do well, because I have a grasp on how to play around them and support them. I completely agree with you that ranked is not fun as it is right now. I lost so much LP the other day while I was in gold 1. I just can't play without my friends on anymore. Climbing in gold shouldn't be an issue for me, but it's so obvious I'm playing against pre-made squads that are at minimum diamond and often master and pred. I would have zero issue if my rank was reflected by the difficulty of the lobby. Like you said, if I already reached plat/diamond and THEN it starts getting difficult, it makes sense. I actually needed my friends to get out from silver this season, which is a first. I used to solo my way to plat to get ahead of my friends. They tend to receive more RP than me, so I used to rush to get a headstart. When I tried that this season, I actually had a net loss of LP in silver. Feels bad when I know I'm not a silver player. I found out War zone has a ranked system now. You need to be level 45 to be able to play ranked. So I've installed War zone again and am already over level 30. I'll play apex again when my friends are on. I would like to play it alone, but I can't have fun on that game while alone. I'm not good enough for that...
I guess Sweet should read the room and realise that the guys at the beginning arent listening... BUT... imagine getting one of the worlds best IGLs as a full in trios and NOT following their lead... 😂
thats what im saying, sweet is acting as some kind of leader to people who dont want him to lead, remember a good leader adapts to his team not the other way around
setting there and saying "come on guy" or stuff like that over and over again makes no seance, if your a pro player or not, expecting other people to care about what u think is the best move is stupid
I used to love this game. I’m happy to see there is a problem with rank on console coming from a pro player on pc lobby’s. You see people saying”your just ass” all the time but to hear someone confirm it helps ease my soul lol
The funny part is i actually run into less triple masters/pred 3 stacks in plat+ lobbies then i do in gold and under 😭 And even more in lubs... The match making really is just the worst its ever been, but i really dont see them coming up with a way to fix it
I've always said that console lobbies are tougher. I know they all look like bots because most of them don't have movement, but there are no players with better aim and you are pushed instantly. I feel like I have someone on the team with 40-50,000 kills in every game!
@@IxhazeGT As a console player, I only watch PC players and have to say that everything runs much faster and looks cooler. But there are so many cod veterans on consoles with 15 years of experience with the Aim from Hell!
@@brandondean5680 No way you are this stupid. How is that what you pull from his comment? He is obviously talking about how it is a fucked mmr making low skill players get rolled by 3 stack preds constantly.
It's ironic because now, having a high rank means you're worse at the game because it means the MMR is placing you against bad players you can win against. If you have a low rank it's probably because you're already playing against better players and can't gain points consistently.
I think one thing that could be changed for the rank system is to have a pre-made squad lobby and a solo que lobby( not solo as in 1v1v1v1 etc, but as in its you+2 randoms, and everyones team is setup like that). There will still be masters and preds in lower lobbies and stuff, but itll cut down the current rank experience of running into triple stacked teams. Call of duty inplemented this into their multiplayer( can't remember which CoD it was) but it was mercenary mode, where everyone was solo que'd.
I used to love playing apex ranked. Genuinely the most fun I had playing video games. Once the MMR was introduced I couldn't stand it for the same reasons sweet had here.
Respawn should actually do a test where for 1 week they implement a system where no master or pred player is able to be put into any Diamond or below lobbies and see what the wait times turn out to actually be. I guarantee the majority of the player base (less than Diamond) game quality and enjoyment would skyrocket.
you know whats funny? apex has always been like this and pros never felt this in the first half of the seasons because theyd always 3 stack, then when apex got boring and they didnt give a shit about ranking up, they started solo queueing and got to experience the real mmr
As an xbox player, my Silver lobbies this season were harder than my Diamond lobbies 3 seasons ago. About 4-5 weeks ago I just gave up on the game tbh, pubs aren't fun because it's just 60 people all trying to go for clips and get tiktok views, ranked is a shitshow as you can clearly see above. It's just not worth it to keep playing for another season in hopes that things will get better. I did that for 5 months and it never did, so why continue. Hopefully Respawn does something, there's no way they're seeing all this negative feedback and are satisfied with the state of the game. To this day I still believe this is the best FPS game in terms of it's core gameplay and mechanics, really don't want to see it die off because of corporate greed pushing micro transactions over actual game improvement and stability.
As a console player, i totally agree with the issues with mmr and ranked in apex. Im a consistent master/pred on console since season 3 i took 2 weeks off. Then, I realized how bad it is to catch back up without a 3 stack pred/masters team.
I just got out of Gold solo queuing, it was real tough getting passed the trials, I must’ve went thru 40 trials before passing, and I too felt defeated and not good enough to be playing against preds and masters. After gold I’m good to keep going again lol
I would lose all my trial games, get knocked out the trials, need one point to go back into trials then win that game, rinse and repeat. Game is a scam 😂
If you make it to ranked lobbies where you're constantly competing against Masters and Pred players, you should just consider yourself Masters/Pred rank and call it a day. Put a Pred badge sticker on your monitor.
This is hilarious because it’s exactly what I went thru my entire time solo queueing this game. Even in pubs there are always a triple stack Pred team playing like it’s ALGS on console. Also, even the really bad players can beam on console due to stronger aim assist.
If they're going to base your games off of mmr, they need to do it like valorant where you rank up SUPER fast until your hidden mmr matches your ranked mmr
MMR is dumb when you’re silver/gold being put into diamond/masters lobbies. But one thing I noticed his aim on controller is average at best and I don’t even play console. I’m PC MnK. He’d get fried by a decent console player.
So what your saying is that premades queueing against full solo groups is actually a bad thing? No way?! It's not like this has been said since S1 or anything. Artificially gatekeeping players just because it's mandatory to group to gain rating had to be the dumbest decision I've ever seen since when League of Legends tried it once and it all went to hell in less than 1 season before they reverted it.
I think the reason why high level players are getting matched up with lower tiers (bronze, silver, gold) is that there aren't enough players to start a game with balanced ranks. Maybe that's the reason why they always reset to zero all of the players rank every season end.
Its at least good to know that even the pros think that Ranked is 100% broken and not just me. This Ranked system is literally killing their own game and they refuse to change it. So frustrating
It’s been worse this season for me. My friends and I don’t play often so I’m gold 2 while one is silver 1 and the other silver 4 and we get lobbies like sweet got lol.
This was the hardest season to solo q to masters in a long time. But I did it! And doing it on another account again. I was stuck in silver and gold for a long time lol
No. It is still easier than the old seasons before the mmr bs. Did you do it in these seasons as well? It’s actually pretty easy since the MMR system is in place. Because if you can climb you can climb every rank. And of course you will get sweatier lobbies if you progress. Which shouldn’t be the case with this system. It’s still easier than old diamond solo q. Because way more people get masters than back then. And there is no split. So more than enough time.
@@-DeZiRe- He got masters even before map rotations which is usually when the split happens. It's more impressive ranking up from rookie facing the same lobbies you would face in diamond and masters. Literally every game your enemies are equal or better skilled and your teamnates it's just a gamble. Back then you stomp to gold in like 2 days. Then it starts getting difficult. Meanwhile, you get the difficult lobbies from the beginning plus kills earn less LP than before plus -50 entry in rookie plus 4000 LP to rank from one rank to the other. Masters it's like pred. Skill isn't enough, you need to dedicate more time. Ppl used to play on weekends and get to diamond. Highly doubt anyone can do that now.
@@Abdura64_ we will see how many masters there are at the end. I’m pretty confident it will be more than the old system. I agree that it takes longer now. But it is not harder per say.
@@-DeZiRe-for solo que definitely harder and definitely longer as a 3 stack it’s roughly the same as I’ve done both and that seems to be the case as they want it to take many more games. I didn’t play apex ranked last season but the one before I hit masters and it was just incredibly easy had some guy on our team one game away from masters and he said he had 1600 games in ranked that season while I was in diamond with about 200. It really shouldn’t take a ton of games but this season im already around 130 all be it I took a break and was very rusty but the lobbies are playing far tougher I’m running into masters and pred 3 stacks in gold which is wild
Rank needs to go up with your MMR rating for the system to make sense. Then you could have something like a daily point loss so that people have to continue playing to keep their rank.
TO BE FAIR... THIS IS WHAT THEY FREAKING WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY WANTED CASUALS TO STUGGLE GETTING TO PRED. THEY WANTED COMP TO SUCK!!!!!! Sweet, Hiswattson and TSM Reps are so convinced that aim assist is hella broken and sweet is the first to taste how wrong he was and how bitter apex can be I don't feel bad for him. The copium is hitting hard and he quit! The fact that he's saying that he wants people to stop smurfing and whatnot as an excuse is laughable considering how he's pretty much doing just that.
I'm only at silver and I'm dealing with stuff that I can't even understand because I'm doing the same thing. But I think the most annoying thing I deal with is people who lock on to me randomly like without even knowing where I am.
I tried to solo Q to pred on console and I could handle the masters and pred teams here and there by using my bot teamates as bait, but once you hit masters or even from D2 it’s nigh impossible. Every single person is one clipping you and your teammates are max plat level players or straight up plats. I’m surprised sweet even made it to gold with the skill level he was showing.
Console preds largely use zens and strikepacks cheating is rampant on console, I stopped playing for 3 weeks after getting to plat 3 and I just started playing again a little a few days ago I’ve been matching with masters and preds regularly, my mmr places me with past masters players, thing is I’m sort of newer to the game and have not really played ranked much before this season, peaking at plat after playing 6 days one of the last seasons One thing I noticed is that ranks genuinely don’t matter, you’re matched with the same players no matter the rank I plan on getting my first masters season but not only does it feel insanely challenging from start to finish but it genuinely feels like a punishment for being good at the game, my lifetime kd isn’t even high it’s 1.5 and honestly the past two seasons have been giving me a beating 1.38 last season and 1.20 this season so far
4:27 I Love How The Conduit Went Down, And Instead Of The Loba To Say: “Let Me Group Up With My Teammate” They Instead Go The Opposite Way And Get Beamed Too While Trying To Take A Phoenix 😅
I pointed this problem since the start where they added the "hidden stats" where respawn send you to lobbys where you reached the most on the past seasons even if you start lower on the rank board
I was running into SO MANY pred teams while he was doing the challenge. And I even died to a stream sniper that abandoned his teammates to go after sweet
I am a console master, and I am currently in ROOKIE 3 playing against a pred 3 stack every single game. We win every game that there isn’t a 3 stack in it. I have 250 solo q games this season, 55 wins, and 86 top 5s. Yet I am still in the same rank that I was when I finished my placement matches.
I’ve played in the top console lobbies been masters twice and the solo que experience is just horrendous I’m in gold facing 3 stack pred teams who I can compete with but my two teammates who are in plat are trading 50 damage on them for a down on themselves and it’s just not possible to win I’m dropping at least 1k damage a game while my teammates have a combined 250. The hidden mmr is bullshit for that I get my lobbies in non ranked should be harder and I shouldn’t be playing new players in ranked but I also shouldn’t be playing the top 1 percent of players while I’m in silver and gold and I’m then stuck with guys that can’t control recoil. Ranked is hardly fun for that gold lobbies are just feeling like high diamond difficulty. The mmr needs reduced I shouldn’t be playing in diamond/masters lobbies while at silver/ gold rank
The ironic part of this is that the vocal part of the community will claim that the "pros" are the reason ranked got so mangled, since they complained so much that there's no challenge at higher ranks (past S13). The truth is that these MMR lobbies are a direct answer to the community complaints that players like Timmy were doing Bronze-Masters challenges and "smurfing". Clearly this game is impossible to balance, so the more they're trying to change the matchmaking, the worse the result is. At this point I wouldn't even mind going back to S03 matchmaking, despite the game being literal cancer since then. The S03 state was miles ahead of current matchmaking in both ranked and pubs.
I solo que ranked every season. This one, with the trials....makes it insufferable. Last night on game 4 of 5...jumpmaster hot drops, we all split yet somehow land on the same loot blanket and I get no weapon, ping 10 times "need a weapon need a weapon" ping building away from fights. nobody comes. They go down, I get a 30/30 and nothing else. Enemies camp banners and I get spam messaged about being a trash can and go play fortnite. 10 out 10 experience. Love it. Be on tonight.
I’ve been saying console ranked at high levels (previous seasons) was harder than PC. Look at how many pro players that complained about AA on PC. Now imagine every player in the server has a stronger AA and are also good players. Some of the peeks and pushes PC players get away with don’t happen on console due to everyone can 120+ spray you.
One day I try ranked me.... Me in a rookie stage ( cause I hate ranked) Im killed with a tripple stacked pred in a rookie stage💀💀💀💀 The SBMM i f**ked up in apex
This is the same problem we have all been complaining about, not just on console. Silver and gold lobbies are flooded with 3 stack preds and it’s been this way for years. It’s the reason solo q is so trash.
Yes but with the old system all you had to do was wait like 2 weeks and those stacks would have more than likely grinded out of silver & gold. It took a player of that skill level maybe 2-3 games to get out of that elo. Occasionally you got preds or Pros in Plat lobbies in the past but this is different because it's like you're in a Diamond/Master lobby but in Silver/Gold. Vs before where Gold actually was....Gold
That first fight is the epitome of console matchmaking. Two idiots holding each others hands basically being cattle to the slaughter for the lobby. Shits sad. I literally have a folder of screenshots, I’ll have maybe 500 damage, teammates… 0. We’ve been in 3 fights. They’ve died all three times in less than 2 minutes.
Have you also noticed during promo trials, you get the worst possible teammates the first 3 games. Not exaggerating. In promo, first 3 matches I usually get teamed with a rookie and when I check their TRN, most of them are 0.7kd or below players. Edit: Wanted to add most console preds and masters are cheaters. And probably almost half of diamonds too. In addition, nowadays it is safe to assume more than half the playerbase cheats. Cronus, strikepacks, xims are always sold out and you have to make an order that takes months. And thats excluding using a pc as the surrogate to port cheats, which, several cheat providers offer, like EO (engine owning).
I'm a new player, and steadily have been getting a grip on the game after being a plat player in fortnite didnt expect to be that high up but im stuck at bronze where the majority of my enemies are all in gold and plat .. Doesn't help when no one has comms.. it definitely makes a difference as this game not only relies heavily on player skill but as an info war.
Took me a while to get to P2. this whole time I thought it was just me, but a pro player whose been to ALGS multiple times didn’t want to continue on Xbox 😂😂 I may actually be better than I think
This probably happens when low rank people que up with high rank people. Apex had a system where you can only queue up with 2 ranks higher but removed it for whatever reason
90% of solo Que apex is wondering how your random just got 1 clipped from nowhere in exchange for 14 dmg.
Then seeing that the random that got one clipped was a top IGL for NRG
It happens to all of us. Last season I played a bunch of times with E6 roster and we died many times without even dealing damage. Slayers was #3 at the time I think :D
I also played with stormen a lot and we died so many times sometimes even directly after landing! @@ortega9156
LMAO @@ortega9156
Console desperately needs to drop AA to 0.4. Some of my best days on console were when AA was bugged and set to PC settings.
@@NowakPif they improve FPS then sure but if not they shouldn't touch it. AA on console isn't a problem, the only people that beam are the ones who are good.
Kind of comforting to see him deal with the exact same problem I had that led me to quit.
Ditto dude. Haven't played ranked since S16 or 17. Used to solo ranked exclusively, but then just stopped being possible.
Right? It's like confirmation that you're not crazy and it's actually fucked
THATS WHY THEY HIDE RANKS BECAUSE F’ed the match making
lol instead of fixing it they just hide the ranks to silence the complains
100%. I knew it the second they did it
Lol you need to realise not enough people play this game all the time to make ranked lobbies locked to only one rank 😂 you would be waiting 20 minutes for a ranked lobby in plat and gold if they locked it to only one rank. Apex is dying and not popular, come to terms with it.
@@percnowitzki1724😂 yet they have the fuking gaul to add a 400 dollar micro transaction and these dumb asses are eating it up right out of daddy ea's palm
no. every game hides ranks so there is less bullying. That's it. There is no conspiracy around hiding ranks to hide matchmaking. its literally just bc they don't want people flaming eachother. Which imo is 100x worse.
it's nice that sweet opened up how terrible MMR and apex ranked is
it's not terrible, sweet is top player in the world, his kill death ratio's is very high even if he sucks on console, he belongs in pred lobbies :) L2p
there is absolutely no argument that this system is not horrifically bad. He played on a brand new account in this challenge. And my 2.5kd ass has had the exact same #1 pred stack in every game from silver to masters this season. @@DailyConsumerHub
@@DailyConsumerHub Well, if he belongs there he should be there. What's the point of playing preds in gold?
@gekke1252 bruh hes on a console account with none of his data and even if you get a high k/d ration that just means you should be ranking up faster not slower. I cant believe people still think this rank system is even good in the first place when its complete shit and all i see are rats or pred 3 stacks. Good example is the number 4 pred on pc is a rat/zone abuser, your telling me i guy that has 5 kills, yes thats all he has last i checked, deserves number 4 pred. Tf
@@Kinzez not only that, but his teammates werent nowhere near that skill level, so its even worst.
Its just a grind fest, no rewards in ranking up and improving. And yeah, lets not even get started about the rat predator, its whats respawn wanted apparently lol
bro is learning what its like to play against him and his friends every season as a solo lmao hasnt been fun
Honestly it’s exactly this he thinks it’s fun being in silver on pc going against him and 2 pros everyday?
This is an understandable point of view but I disagree because pro players do speak out about how shit the matchmaking is, they want to be a high ranking and while them playing ranked is inherently making ranked harder for lower ranked people, it’s respawns fault that the game is like that, and the pros really don’t have anything they can do about that.
not his fault though...
Respawn: “you won your last game huh? Surely you must be a pro, let me queue you with them!”
It doesn't need to have a win if you have a good game with decent amount of kills ect they start que with them and you pair with one or two new accounts
"Also you have use up your 1 good teammate, please try again in 15 games."
Makes it impossible to get to their level when they're smashing you before you can even learn all the tricks they learned in season 1 when everyone was a noob and played bad.
@@harshmoor2280 bro im dying jajajajjajaj
It's not even that console lobbies are hard its just the mmr system is extremely fucked when you get actual good matches through skill or luck then game says "NAH we putting a halt on yo ass"
Not to mention how poorly optimised it is on console, he had pocket loss left right centre nearly every game. Then there’s 60fps for a competitive game that’s been out 5 years.
Yeah sweet literally doesn’t play controller going against press n masters players solo queueing and you’ll still be hearing the console players using this as an argument for whatever they come up with
It’s the aim assist buff as well. And the fact that everyone has it.
They're definitely hard
@@KevinZePanda"literally doesn't play controller" he literally has entire streams of him playing controller in ranked. He beat hal in a PK 1v1 to 20 last year and has so many video examples playing controller on multiple channels if you search it up. Also a pro player guiding his randoms in game chat.
I’m genuinely missing how fun this game used to be like season 1-8 I enjoyed this game and got like gold and plat when I started playing ranked in season 7 and 8 which is when I finally played more consistently and competitively,and finally solo q’d to diamond for the first time in season 13 with dwindling hope for the game to be fun because it was already hell with that season,and by season 15 I was playing a smaller amount of time just by not only growing up a little more because around that time I had gotten into highschool barley,and I stopped playing ranked around that time because it was starting to be horrible,and after around season 18 I got to playing once a week maybe and now for the last 6 or so months,played like maybe once every two or three weeks just solo no filling duos and on occasion trios and it’s just people who are triple stacking pubs with who are all preds and masters ranked,and seeing this gameplay of sweet in gold definitely nowhere near a preds skill and getting them in silver and gold lobbies makes me happy the last time I played apex a month I loaded in and looked at the screen and thought about it and just ended up closing the game,and genuinely I have more fun on apex just messing around shooting dummies in the firing range than playing any actual games,im so glad the finals came around because I feel at least a little bit of fun playing video games again and shooters in general
That always really pisses me off. Me and my pred three stack never go into pubs running it down lol. Maybe once a month we decide to hop into a pubs for a single game to warm up, but we don’t really even do that, we just go into the range. I really hate no filling pubs trying to drop a 20 bomb only to run into a sweaty group of three stacking nerdy preds or masters. Like go play ranked if you are gonna take pubs that seriously. People are so cringe in apex
Hope you find a way to enjoy the game again bro
@@ChiefKyrosit’s because they don’t deserve that rank so they have to play pubs to actually enjoy the game or they be getting shit on all night long 😂
@@BigFlipz509 No reason to shit on people that play with friends tho. Happened to me in rl, i was simply better without even trying, but people that are worst than you think you are tryharding. I prefer to be shit on by a 3 stack predators that full send me than to play campers in pubs playing like algs
People actually read this ?
Bet you they won’t make any improvements season 20, if anything it will be the absolute bare minimum and some re-skins on the side.
They probably will remove the challange to win from platinum to diamond or at least give it a second option and they probably will adjust the wasted points when you win a game and you are only 5LP away from your challange to rank up the game only gives you 5LP and then you have to win again and wasted 245LP for nothing wich right now is stupid.
This season we almost have as many people in master then we had last season and this season still has a month to go. We will have more master players this season then we had last season!
Week 1 solo q player, stopped playing at this point. But what I learnt with Apex is it takes one step forward and three steps back. S20 will be a massive let down mark my words.
@@silverslims95 I only play solo q ranked and I am pretty much always master by week 2. I don't tihnk season 20 will be much different when there is nothing that shakes up the game but I also have almost 3500 hours in the game so its starting to get stale no matter what :D
I am waiting for stalker 2 at this point... I hope it will be good!
"Some reskins" they finna give us more collection events than s19
Just another 400 dollar microtransaction and 0 changes to the actual problems ruining the game, i already see it.
IGL is super frustrating because most of the time you don't have an issue taking responsibility for making a bad call and getting everyone killed, but when you make a call, it needs to be NOW. People hesitate for even 2-5 seconds and then blame you. Shoot at 4 squads, get all 4 shooting at you, then say, "We were in a bad spot." No, you made it a bad spot when you did 20-40 damage on every team in the lobby so they shot back at us. Micro-managing your squadmates is so huge and most people are clueless to how difficult IGL actually is.
I just feel like if my hidden mmr is going to put me against diamond+ players then i should just be placed in diamond rank after placement matches lol. Wtf is the point of a ranked system if you don't play people of the same rank.
If my hidden MMR is going to stack me agains 3 stack masters and pred over and over the game should give me a team at least near my MMR and not give me team mates that land, "loot" takes 5 min looting and fixing inventory to end up running a P2020 or Mozambique.
It'd be cool to see other pros do this
Yea someone who actually plays controller
They have too lol it’s the only way devs will realize ranked is impossible atp …
It’s really really good for the console community. But no pro wants to play on console. None of them. Sweet did because he was sponsored and didn’t mind learning controller, but 60fps to a pro is god awful. Among many many other things. Not worth it for them. But it would be cool to see a cracked roller player fight a cracked console top Pred cheater!
@ChiefDramatic its good for EVERYONE. I play on pc and I have been going against fcking itztimmy, enoch, LG and a fck ton of top professional players since silver 2.
As a 4x console Pred, I feel his pain. I solo queued to Pred for the very first time in season 15, and until then, I thought the top console Preds were just like PC Preds. Just genuinely good players. Well, that was only partially true. I’m a top Pred, I play with top #5 Preds all the time, and so when I say that 80% of all the Preds on console cheat, it’s not even close to being an inaccurate number. They ALL cheat, and it’s NOT a strike pack. A strike pack is NOTHING compared to the device I shall not name that they use. Anyways, some of these Preds on console do some really really cringey stuff, so I’m not surprised they stream sniped sweet at all. I’m very glad sweet played on console for the very fact he is bringing to light how bad console is, and sharing our suffering with the rest of the world. 60fps is god awful, the cheating is rampant, and even as a Pred who runs through lobbies everyday, fighting brain dead lobbies who push everything with no thought behind it is frustrating af. So I’m glad sweet played even though he suffered!
Yea most preds cheat they got Cronus zen also they be getting into bot lobbies it’s why they got so many kills on different legends
That’s so sad actually. Is it Cronus zen? How do you know if someone us using it?
@@Xgenerallljitter on crosshair is one of them, and the most obvious tell.
@@giancarlobarnard8805well well well. Look who it is 😂
@@deustauries 😎
This is exactly why I stopped playing apex. The game is no longer rewarding in regard to skill development. The MMR system is so fucked up it actually punishes you for it. After over 3 years of grinding solo ranked; I only watch pro league shit now.
ditto
yup I’ll only touch the respawn gamemodes til it gets to gun run and happily get off. why play it when I can just watch people that can actually put up w this
Story of my life, my team is shit, other teams are 3stack masters, preds and 20bomb bandits! And I think to myself Am I that good??? What did I do to deserve these lobbies 😢
that is the problem, Apex is about money, preds that are streamers going to be match against the low level just to make the game looks good and easy so they attract more people thats equals more money, the game is and was never about skills, you can't use the words skills and aim assist in the same sentence .
@@luissalguero686- you almost sounded like you knew what you were talking about until you threw AA into there and discredited everything you said
@@AAA-Wolf do you e3ven know for how long I been playing fps games? I played the original Doom so don't be stupid.
@@luissalguero686but what did AA have to do with anything you said before that you just completely 180’d your point with that
@@AAA-Wolf nerf aim assist
This is the story of my life no3 7 & 13 Pred champ squad in my Silver Lobbies. Learnt not to complain playing on 200ping in South Africa... Funny seeing a pro player struggling like we do 😂😂😂
Yeah you guys are not alone. Solo q is tough for anyone
Been saying this since last season there’s zero sense of progression when your lobbies are just as hard in silver as they are in d1. Makes it so rank is a reflection of time spent grinding and not skill
It exists for the other side of the coin, since there is no low mmr penalty the reverse also happens which is why we had so many masters the first season of this trash, a .05 kd player can make his way to masters playing nothing but true bronze players, between this and the lack of variety of matchmaking in the strict sbmm pubs that don't allow you to play unranked with friends of varying skill levels! This game will just keep hemorrhaging players as it is currently
Apex is a participation trophy game now and it's so sad to see it happen
But I hate grinding through the low ranks that are usually easy playing tonnes of games just to play at the rank I want
nah those first 2 guys are more fried than me bro they definitely took 1 too many edibles
ghetto
They admited to hearing Sweet talking the whole time but just ignored Tf out of his comms
that’s how it always goes. Randoms ignore you whole game and don’t com until you guys die then their mics work and wanna bitch 🤦♂️
Bro I was in bronze and running into triple preds. Absolutely ridiculous lol
I actually rate Sweet so highly for not only exposing how flawed the Season 17 ranked system was, but for trying console and highlighting how miserable an experience it is for so many of us regular 9-5 work/school going gamers.
Respawn seriously needs to improve this system, or my preferred thing would be to scrap hidden MMR ranked all together.
WAS flawed? Apex still sucks ball all round you can't play pubs and ranked is still broken
I Take No Joy In Seeing Him Have To Deal With The Stuff That We Console Players Have To Deal With, But It Does Feel Good To Know That Someone As Good As Him Has THE SAME Experience Us Non-Pros Have Because While He Signed Up For This, Alot Of Us Don’t Have Other Pro Friends We Can Party Up With And Rely On Them To Win All Their 1s And Know We Don’t Have To Carry All Game, Every Game
I'm glad he got to see what it's like to try and solo ranked in this system. It's actually terrible what the "hidden MMR" does, you end up in silver/gold off the rip and you end up playing against masters/preds but get no more RP for winning in a touger lobby. Bring Season 13 split 1 ranked back, most balanced and rewarding system we had and the only issue was self revive which has been removed entirely from the game
That first clip of the guys not listening to a sweet has to say is exactly why I stopped playing this game on Console. People on there just do not listen and always want to do whatever they think is best.
This is exactly what I experienced when soloQing. Being in Gold/Plat rank and getting put with lower ranked teammates every match and facing nonstop Masters and Preds. I played from Day 1 launch but finally stopped playing around 3 weeks into season 17. Surprised more ppl havent quit tbh. Matchmaking is so broken. Im probably a plat/diamond skilled player (game sense/tactics more so than mechanical skill) and I should literally never be seeing a pred player.
Respawns hard stance to keep que times extremely low ruined this game imo. Preds/masters should have higher que times to pool them all together and keep them out of Diamond and below lobbies. Maybe a solo Qing masters or pred gets tossed into a Diamond lobby but that should be a rarity.
I hate it when they know it's bad and not gonna change it probably until next season, Not like games from riot they changed things everytime if it were good or bad
Console players go through a lot like getting multiple 3-stack preds per ranked game as silver-gold, brain-dead teammates, and sbmm not working at all in pubs, ranked, or party modes
shit is cringe
You are in gold, u get preds in ur lobby once in every 80 games and they literally clear out the lobby for u
@@xora8366this isn’t true. My friends are I are on console and managed to get together about twice a week to play, we are all in silver. Yet almost every game I will see at least one three stack pred trail on drop. We can still have some good games and enjoy playing but I don’t understand why it mixes three stack pred teams with casuals that play a couple of times a week?
@@UKIntegralmao..... That team you're playing is on a terrible streak. I haven't played in months due to having a newborn but because I've been pred/masters and nearly 30k kills. Every game I go into in pubs EVERY team is pred or master. I played ranked the other day for the first time and I was in pred lobbies when I haven't even placed. It's just mmr. The games a joke be happy you come against 1or2 in a lobby not 50k minimum players every time
?? sounds just like PC.
now imagine how frustated regular SoloQ players cz these are everyday lobbies for them
i mean i would just not play ranked atp, honestly just doesnt feel like its worth anyones time getting steamrolled 24/7
some people do like a challenge its why i shit on generic master every 1v1 but cant even get in diamond solo qing bc i refuse to spend that much time ratting and shit
@@ChronicalV
@@estfatul744 ok sure but for the people who cant win a 1v1 against masters, let alone 1v3? Its fucked
It's crazy seeing him struggle on console compared to PC
I hit d1 and im done for the season...grinding for masters is a waste of my mental health
Seeing Sweet suffer through this makes me feel somewhat better.
Yeah I'll be honest. I'm one of those teammates that does 20 damage. I don't understand why I get put in those kind of lobbies either. I haven't played in 3 weeks. If I hopped on now, I'd be there being that useless teammate for you (you on ps4?). Even when I do play consistently, it's only 2 days a week on the weekends. When I play with my friends I do well, because I have a grasp on how to play around them and support them.
I completely agree with you that ranked is not fun as it is right now. I lost so much LP the other day while I was in gold 1. I just can't play without my friends on anymore. Climbing in gold shouldn't be an issue for me, but it's so obvious I'm playing against pre-made squads that are at minimum diamond and often master and pred. I would have zero issue if my rank was reflected by the difficulty of the lobby. Like you said, if I already reached plat/diamond and THEN it starts getting difficult, it makes sense. I actually needed my friends to get out from silver this season, which is a first. I used to solo my way to plat to get ahead of my friends. They tend to receive more RP than me, so I used to rush to get a headstart. When I tried that this season, I actually had a net loss of LP in silver. Feels bad when I know I'm not a silver player.
I found out War zone has a ranked system now. You need to be level 45 to be able to play ranked. So I've installed War zone again and am already over level 30. I'll play apex again when my friends are on. I would like to play it alone, but I can't have fun on that game while alone. I'm not good enough for that...
Y’all should get a 3 stack and see how far you make it. I’d imagine it’ll still be hard but you got it
I guess Sweet should read the room and realise that the guys at the beginning arent listening...
BUT... imagine getting one of the worlds best IGLs as a full in trios and NOT following their lead... 😂
thats what im saying, sweet is acting as some kind of leader to people who dont want him to lead, remember a good leader adapts to his team not the other way around
setting there and saying "come on guy" or stuff like that over and over again makes no seance, if your a pro player or not, expecting other people to care about what u think is the best move is stupid
I’m so glad he did this like beyond happy
I used to love this game. I’m happy to see there is a problem with rank on console coming from a pro player on pc lobby’s. You see people saying”your just ass” all the time but to hear someone confirm it helps ease my soul lol
He now has idea of how we solo players feel when we come across his team or some other 3 stack team .
The funny part is i actually run into less triple masters/pred 3 stacks in plat+ lobbies then i do in gold and under 😭
And even more in lubs... The match making really is just the worst its ever been, but i really dont see them coming up with a way to fix it
Agreed. Me too
I've always said that console lobbies are tougher. I know they all look like bots because most of them don't have movement, but there are no players with better aim and you are pushed instantly. I feel like I have someone on the team with 40-50,000 kills in every game!
You miss spelled "console like using zen and love to triple pred stacked in pubs and lower rank lobbies"
console lobbies are not easier lol. not even close 🤣
@@IxhazeGT As a console player, I only watch PC players and have to say that everything runs much faster and looks cooler. But there are so many cod veterans on consoles with 15 years of experience with the Aim from Hell!
I wouldn't say they are harder but I wouldn't say they are easier either I have played on both and you see easy and hard lobbies on both
@@AEONIC_MUSIC this is true but aim on console is ugly because no one is focusing on movement
This is the reason the game is plagued with cheaters.
Cause sweet is playing on console? 😂 you make no sense
@@brandondean5680 No way you are this stupid. How is that what you pull from his comment? He is obviously talking about how it is a fucked mmr making low skill players get rolled by 3 stack preds constantly.
@brandondean5680 did you not watch the video?
Abandons his squad because he's a loot goblin is all I see
It's ironic because now, having a high rank means you're worse at the game because it means the MMR is placing you against bad players you can win against. If you have a low rank it's probably because you're already playing against better players and can't gain points consistently.
This is why ranked became worthless a few seasons ago. I play this game alot and yea everybody with masters badges suck
I think one thing that could be changed for the rank system is to have a pre-made squad lobby and a solo que lobby( not solo as in 1v1v1v1 etc, but as in its you+2 randoms, and everyones team is setup like that). There will still be masters and preds in lower lobbies and stuff, but itll cut down the current rank experience of running into triple stacked teams.
Call of duty inplemented this into their multiplayer( can't remember which CoD it was) but it was mercenary mode, where everyone was solo que'd.
I love how at first he was like "SBMM isn't actually bad, it counters smurfs" but after playing more he concluded that the game is shit 😂
I used to love playing apex ranked. Genuinely the most fun I had playing video games. Once the MMR was introduced I couldn't stand it for the same reasons sweet had here.
Respawn should actually do a test where for 1 week they implement a system where no master or pred player is able to be put into any Diamond or below lobbies and see what the wait times turn out to actually be. I guarantee the majority of the player base (less than Diamond) game quality and enjoyment would skyrocket.
you know whats funny? apex has always been like this and pros never felt this in the first half of the seasons because theyd always 3 stack, then when apex got boring and they didnt give a shit about ranking up, they started solo queueing and got to experience the real mmr
As an xbox player, my Silver lobbies this season were harder than my Diamond lobbies 3 seasons ago. About 4-5 weeks ago I just gave up on the game tbh, pubs aren't fun because it's just 60 people all trying to go for clips and get tiktok views, ranked is a shitshow as you can clearly see above. It's just not worth it to keep playing for another season in hopes that things will get better. I did that for 5 months and it never did, so why continue.
Hopefully Respawn does something, there's no way they're seeing all this negative feedback and are satisfied with the state of the game. To this day I still believe this is the best FPS game in terms of it's core gameplay and mechanics, really don't want to see it die off because of corporate greed pushing micro transactions over actual game improvement and stability.
As a console player, i totally agree with the issues with mmr and ranked in apex. Im a consistent master/pred on console since season 3 i took 2 weeks off. Then, I realized how bad it is to catch back up without a 3 stack pred/masters team.
I just got out of Gold solo queuing, it was real tough getting passed the trials, I must’ve went thru 40 trials before passing, and I too felt defeated and not good enough to be playing against preds and masters.
After gold I’m good to keep going again lol
I would lose all my trial games, get knocked out the trials, need one point to go back into trials then win that game, rinse and repeat. Game is a scam 😂
If you make it to ranked lobbies where you're constantly competing against Masters and Pred players, you should just consider yourself Masters/Pred rank and call it a day. Put a Pred badge sticker on your monitor.
This is hilarious because it’s exactly what I went thru my entire time solo queueing this game. Even in pubs there are always a triple stack Pred team playing like it’s ALGS on console. Also, even the really bad players can beam on console due to stronger aim assist.
you are wrong, why wasnt Sweet beaming even though he is not a bad player? Stop the cap
@@allenT_fps learning to snap aim assist takes a bit of time while learning subsciously you absolute helmet. Stay out of my mentions.
Sweet is a straight up G for this one. Stepping away from this game finally i think
If they're going to base your games off of mmr, they need to do it like valorant where you rank up SUPER fast until your hidden mmr matches your ranked mmr
BRO IM DEAD HAHHAHA. The first 50 seconds. PAIN. This is what happens to me but on PC solo Q, im like bruhhhhh
This game is legit unplayable at the moment. Most it’s ever been .
Respawn devs should all collectively write a book called: "How NOT to run an online game."
Welcome to console solo q sweet, we've been dealing with this from day dot🙃
MMR is dumb when you’re silver/gold being put into diamond/masters lobbies. But one thing I noticed his aim on controller is average at best and I don’t even play console. I’m PC MnK. He’d get fried by a decent console player.
So what your saying is that premades queueing against full solo groups is actually a bad thing? No way?! It's not like this has been said since S1 or anything. Artificially gatekeeping players just because it's mandatory to group to gain rating had to be the dumbest decision I've ever seen since when League of Legends tried it once and it all went to hell in less than 1 season before they reverted it.
I think the reason why high level players are getting matched up with lower tiers (bronze, silver, gold) is that there aren't enough players to start a game with balanced ranks. Maybe that's the reason why they always reset to zero all of the players rank every season end.
Its at least good to know that even the pros think that Ranked is 100% broken and not just me. This Ranked system is literally killing their own game and they refuse to change it. So frustrating
It’s been worse this season for me. My friends and I don’t play often so I’m gold 2 while one is silver 1 and the other silver 4 and we get lobbies like sweet got lol.
Console ranked is utterly pointless imo. I gave up ranked long ago.
Those first two guys had to be high as fuck good lord
This was the hardest season to solo q to masters in a long time. But I did it! And doing it on another account again. I was stuck in silver and gold for a long time lol
If you want a duo I've been playing this game for 3 years but I don't have anyone to play raked with
No. It is still easier than the old seasons before the mmr bs. Did you do it in these seasons as well? It’s actually pretty easy since the MMR system is in place. Because if you can climb you can climb every rank. And of course you will get sweatier lobbies if you progress. Which shouldn’t be the case with this system. It’s still easier than old diamond solo q. Because way more people get masters than back then. And there is no split. So more than enough time.
@@-DeZiRe- He got masters even before map rotations which is usually when the split happens. It's more impressive ranking up from rookie facing the same lobbies you would face in diamond and masters. Literally every game your enemies are equal or better skilled and your teamnates it's just a gamble. Back then you stomp to gold in like 2 days. Then it starts getting difficult. Meanwhile, you get the difficult lobbies from the beginning plus kills earn less LP than before plus -50 entry in rookie plus 4000 LP to rank from one rank to the other. Masters it's like pred. Skill isn't enough, you need to dedicate more time. Ppl used to play on weekends and get to diamond. Highly doubt anyone can do that now.
@@Abdura64_ we will see how many masters there are at the end. I’m pretty confident it will be more than the old system. I agree that it takes longer now. But it is not harder per say.
@@-DeZiRe-for solo que definitely harder and definitely longer as a 3 stack it’s roughly the same as I’ve done both and that seems to be the case as they want it to take many more games. I didn’t play apex ranked last season but the one before I hit masters and it was just incredibly easy had some guy on our team one game away from masters and he said he had 1600 games in ranked that season while I was in diamond with about 200. It really shouldn’t take a ton of games but this season im already around 130 all be it I took a break and was very rusty but the lobbies are playing far tougher I’m running into masters and pred 3 stacks in gold which is wild
Rank needs to go up with your MMR rating for the system to make sense. Then you could have something like a daily point loss so that people have to continue playing to keep their rank.
I had to play triple stack preds every game from the beginning. The placement matches were pred matches from the start. It’s so bad.
That's why I don't play ranked, only with friends. Even my pubs teammates don't listen and end up just dying
TO BE FAIR... THIS IS WHAT THEY FREAKING WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY WANTED CASUALS TO STUGGLE GETTING TO PRED. THEY WANTED COMP TO SUCK!!!!!!
Sweet, Hiswattson and TSM Reps are so convinced that aim assist is hella broken and sweet is the first to taste how wrong he was and how bitter apex can be
I don't feel bad for him. The copium is hitting hard and he quit!
The fact that he's saying that he wants people to stop smurfing and whatnot as an excuse is laughable considering how he's pretty much doing just that.
I went from rookie to gold this season and the lobbies didnt change at all
I'm only at silver and I'm dealing with stuff that I can't even understand because I'm doing the same thing. But I think the most annoying thing I deal with is people who lock on to me randomly like without even knowing where I am.
This is why most people quit
The matchmaking system is absolute garbage
Playing against triple stack preds while you're solo queueing silver is insane
I tried to solo Q to pred on console and I could handle the masters and pred teams here and there by using my bot teamates as bait, but once you hit masters or even from D2 it’s nigh impossible. Every single person is one clipping you and your teammates are max plat level players or straight up plats. I’m surprised sweet even made it to gold with the skill level he was showing.
Console preds largely use zens and strikepacks cheating is rampant on console, I stopped playing for 3 weeks after getting to plat 3 and I just started playing again a little a few days ago I’ve been matching with masters and preds regularly, my mmr places me with past masters players, thing is I’m sort of newer to the game and have not really played ranked much before this season, peaking at plat after playing 6 days one of the last seasons
One thing I noticed is that ranks genuinely don’t matter, you’re matched with the same players no matter the rank
I plan on getting my first masters season but not only does it feel insanely challenging from start to finish but it genuinely feels like a punishment for being good at the game, my lifetime kd isn’t even high it’s 1.5 and honestly the past two seasons have been giving me a beating 1.38 last season and 1.20 this season so far
4:27 I Love How The Conduit Went Down, And Instead Of The Loba To Say: “Let Me Group Up With My Teammate” They Instead Go The Opposite Way And Get Beamed Too While Trying To Take A Phoenix 😅
I pointed this problem since the start where they added the "hidden stats" where respawn send you to lobbys where you reached the most on the past seasons even if you start lower on the rank board
It's like you just started practicing boxing but after one month, u gonna fight Mike Tyson. My rank game in nutshell.
three stack predators halfway through the season in gold is hilarious
I was running into SO MANY pred teams while he was doing the challenge. And I even died to a stream sniper that abandoned his teammates to go after sweet
Quit bc of this. Teammates disintegrate as soon as an enemy looks their way even when I try to guard them
This explains why im stuck in silver 1 currently and why ive had to attempt the trials 4 times already 😢
Not gonna lie this is cathartic lmfao
I am a console master, and I am currently in ROOKIE 3 playing against a pred 3 stack every single game. We win every game that there isn’t a 3 stack in it. I have 250 solo q games this season, 55 wins, and 86 top 5s. Yet I am still in the same rank that I was when I finished my placement matches.
I’ve played in the top console lobbies been masters twice and the solo que experience is just horrendous I’m in gold facing 3 stack pred teams who I can compete with but my two teammates who are in plat are trading 50 damage on them for a down on themselves and it’s just not possible to win I’m dropping at least 1k damage a game while my teammates have a combined 250. The hidden mmr is bullshit for that I get my lobbies in non ranked should be harder and I shouldn’t be playing new players in ranked but I also shouldn’t be playing the top 1 percent of players while I’m in silver and gold and I’m then stuck with guys that can’t control recoil. Ranked is hardly fun for that gold lobbies are just feeling like high diamond difficulty. The mmr needs reduced I shouldn’t be playing in diamond/masters lobbies while at silver/ gold rank
This is the same shit that happens to me every match
The ironic part of this is that the vocal part of the community will claim that the "pros" are the reason ranked got so mangled, since they complained so much that there's no challenge at higher ranks (past S13).
The truth is that these MMR lobbies are a direct answer to the community complaints that players like Timmy were doing Bronze-Masters challenges and "smurfing". Clearly this game is impossible to balance, so the more they're trying to change the matchmaking, the worse the result is. At this point I wouldn't even mind going back to S03 matchmaking, despite the game being literal cancer since then. The S03 state was miles ahead of current matchmaking in both ranked and pubs.
@1337Swiper Exactly
They need to give us options to not play with players after a game so we don’t match up with them ever again
Diamond 1 right now on PC, but I've been in pred lobbies since Gold. Your rank used to mean something.
I solo que ranked every season. This one, with the trials....makes it insufferable. Last night on game 4 of 5...jumpmaster hot drops, we all split yet somehow land on the same loot blanket and I get no weapon, ping 10 times "need a weapon need a weapon" ping building away from fights. nobody comes. They go down, I get a 30/30 and nothing else. Enemies camp banners and I get spam messaged about being a trash can and go play fortnite. 10 out 10 experience. Love it. Be on tonight.
I’ve been saying console ranked at high levels (previous seasons) was harder than PC. Look at how many pro players that complained about AA on PC. Now imagine every player in the server has a stronger AA and are also good players. Some of the peeks and pushes PC players get away with don’t happen on console due to everyone can 120+ spray you.
On master lobbies it’s not 120 sprays it’s 160+ easy and barely peaking.
Everyone has a controller on console tho.
One day I try ranked me.... Me in a rookie stage ( cause I hate ranked) Im killed with a tripple stacked pred in a rookie stage💀💀💀💀 The SBMM i f**ked up in apex
This is the same problem we have all been complaining about, not just on console. Silver and gold lobbies are flooded with 3 stack preds and it’s been this way for years. It’s the reason solo q is so trash.
Yes but with the old system all you had to do was wait like 2 weeks and those stacks would have more than likely grinded out of silver & gold. It took a player of that skill level maybe 2-3 games to get out of that elo. Occasionally you got preds or Pros in Plat lobbies in the past but this is different because it's like you're in a Diamond/Master lobby but in Silver/Gold. Vs before where Gold actually was....Gold
Console solo ranked just makes it to where it really doesn't matter how good you do. It's up to matchmaking to decide when you rank up.
No point in playing ranked when ranks don’t rank. Silver II last season and already with Preds. No wonder I’m still in Bronze this season.
That first fight is the epitome of console matchmaking. Two idiots holding each others hands basically being cattle to the slaughter for the lobby. Shits sad. I literally have a folder of screenshots, I’ll have maybe 500 damage, teammates… 0. We’ve been in 3 fights. They’ve died all three times in less than 2 minutes.
Have you also noticed during promo trials, you get the worst possible teammates the first 3 games. Not exaggerating. In promo, first 3 matches I usually get teamed with a rookie and when I check their TRN, most of them are 0.7kd or below players.
Edit: Wanted to add most console preds and masters are cheaters. And probably almost half of diamonds too.
In addition, nowadays it is safe to assume more than half the playerbase cheats. Cronus, strikepacks, xims are always sold out and you have to make an order that takes months.
And thats excluding using a pc as the surrogate to port cheats, which, several cheat providers offer, like EO (engine owning).
I'm a new player, and steadily have been getting a grip on the game after being a plat player in fortnite didnt expect to be that high up but im stuck at bronze where the majority of my enemies are all in gold and plat .. Doesn't help when no one has comms.. it definitely makes a difference as this game not only relies heavily on player skill but as an info war.
Took me a while to get to P2. this whole time I thought it was just me, but a pro player whose been to ALGS multiple times didn’t want to continue on Xbox 😂😂 I may actually be better than I think
bro facts usually i hit masters, but this season is brutal with sweats and three stacks and half way through the season and im still gold
This probably happens when low rank people que up with high rank people. Apex had a system where you can only queue up with 2 ranks higher but removed it for whatever reason
People wanted to play ranked with their buddies lol.
I dunno why the matchmaking comes as such a shock. That’s my exact experience on PC solo queue ranked. It’s perfectly normal.