Underground Downspout Drain - Done Right The First Time Work Smarter NOT Harder ] Drainage For DIYer
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- We've got a couple new tricks in store for underground buried downspouts in 2022.
We're going to show you how to install a roof runoff system and vent the downspouts at the inline catch basin. The catch basin will catch shingle gravel and run it to a pop-up emitter that's going to be installed in a way to act as a mini dry well.
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So nice to see and hear from someone that does things right and not just do the cheapest and fastest job! We need a lot more contractors like you!
Great the team left the place clean and tidy, impressive!
Love the mini catch basin. Great idea.
Love the explanation on this. I'm doing this myself, almost exact situation. Thank you so much. I'll check these products out
Tim from Canada, just saw this video, funny, you told me on Monday this pop up set up was on the way. THANKS again for the great advice.
Perfect video. I have horrible red clay soil. In the spring, it's like walking on a wet sponge. Was going to ask about using the fabric to make a stone pocket under the popups, d-boxes, etc. Good to see I was on the right track.
i like the venting aspect,the plywood makes for easier shoveling,and roof grit catching ,well thought out,i also use drain channels w grates
Love the high octane armor pipe
Perfection on explanation and installation!!
Thank you!!
I like your video demonstration. Very professional work.
I always watch your channel. Keep them coming.
Thank you.
Guy had me cracking up talking about SOD. "Yes, it stretches, everythings fine" LOL
Awesome! I’ve been designing this in my head for where I live for years now. You beat me to making it happen.
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Thanks for the video upload!
Great video, I think something like this could be the solution I'm looking for. Waiting for the diy kits!
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That's awesome, I like it.
Greet video French Drain Man.
Finding someone that has pride in their work is rare not just with saturation of DIY tradesmen but with current culture in general
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Great video
Great video gave some great ideas great product looks real sturdy as well.
Thank you
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Wish I knew that trick about blowing the dirt out of the grass! Thanks for the tip!
This is the updated video enjoy
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You know what would be amazing for the catch basin would be a stainless steel screen basket. Like a hybrid between a reusable coffee filter and a swimming pool skimmer basket. You may even be able to design something that could be retrofitted to your existing system. The staginess steel screen would be able to remove even the shingle gravel.
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Here is a video showing the biggest mistakes you want to avoid
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I'm on it. We were just talking about this. I will get it done.
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That's be awesome
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Not a new product, but a possible experiment. Was thinking about adding a catch basin in a low spot next to the downspout line. Then wrap the grate with your fabric to keep out the bulk of the debris. I have Bermuda grass, so it should grow over and cover it as well. A quick fix for a bad spot where water pools up.
Having a hand tamper on site makes for a better backfill and sod replacement job.
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It is as if you were watching me these past 2 weeks. We are north enough to freeze and I was replacing some work done last year with 2 runs using gen 1 popups/restrictors. I extended both runs to the curb, I am using the latest popups/ restrictor plate with a 90 degree fitting and holes drilled in it, My soil is clay and agree it can be a sponge. So I did 2 things - I dug out a mini dry well under both popups , and wrapped the hole and stone in your fabric. Unlike your T connector shown in the video here, the popup with 90 degree connector doesn't go as deep into the ground as that fitting. So the drywell is independently wrapped and is closer to the surface than what you'd have using what is in the video. I also used 2 feet of your cut pipe from the popup to the solid. Again, did this because of freeze issues. Come winter, water should have ways to escape, even if teh popup is under snow or ice. I used your fabric to line the trench (above the drywell portion as well) from the popup to 2 feet past the perforated pipe connection wrapped carefully and packed everything down. So I have 2 feet of perforated pipe wrapped to let water remaining in teh pipe an escape route. Now, I've had to repack the soil around the popups a couple of times, as heavy rain showed that while these worked great and water comes out of the popup but eventually it also finds it's way from beneath/around the popup as the drywell fills and the clay soil around the drywell and under the popup supersaturates and the water looks to exit. This water did compact the soil such that I had to add more to deal with soil compaction and fill the voids the water created. Also, in my case, I've no turf or sod just a dirt yard being restarted from scratch and I think the soil with grass goes a long way to making the pipe and popups stable when wet. But at the moment, I can still walk the trenches after a rain and compact it more . But once I have grass I think it'll all stabilize. A local water utility guy who was checking my meter said the popups being right at the curb was perfect for getting the water into the storm drain. .
Hello sir! Love your videos. Would love a video that explains when to use corrugated pipe with 4-8 slots in the wells vs. when to use the knife cut corrugated pipe vs. when you would use solid corrugated pipe with no slots. And what application or scenario you would you use each for. Thank you and appreciate all your efforts!
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Be nice to see an "after" video showing the system working.
I got to say i like your in line catch basin that's nice
Suggestion: A heavy corrugated pipe like you have but, with a smooth wall!
That would essentially be a double wall pipe. I know they're made in 8" diameter and up, not sure about 3 or 4" sizes though.
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That ditch will still settel over time. GUARANTEE.
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Could use the new pipe for a sump pump discharge and not use pvc?
Nice work, can I send you a video of my yard, I’ve done some plumbing for storm water and French drain which sorted out some issues but after all the rain had in Australia have a fair bit of wet area in yards. Can do a live video with you but time frame might be quite different.
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Having a small electric jack/demo hammer on site will make that hand dig job much easier and save $$$. Like you say, work smarter not harder!
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Its funny how after how many years of it raining that we are still trying to better something as simple as drainage. You would think we are pretty smart and have this figured out but we are still improving.
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I don't understand why the whole line isn't PVC. It helps the flow much better as that blue piping is still corrugated which slows down the flow and traps debris.
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Do you guys make the downspout filter /vent/ blow outs for 3” round downspouts? Awesome videos!
We just started making 4" Round. We should have these in a few weeks. 3" Round is another couple of years away because nobody is asking for 3"
Very low demand
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN thanks so much! I will keep checking the site
Amazing workmanship. Can’t even tell work was done. Would you recommend this product if I have to blow my gutters out 5 times a year? I have a large maple and other types that clog my gutters. The flutters are terrible in spring time. I’d be afraid of clogging the system with all this junk that goes down the spouts.
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I'll be doing this project next month. Should I locate underground lines / Bluestake before digging? We only need to trench 12-18 inches into the ground. The drain will run past the electric breaker panel ... ??
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A corner or edge popup that you can put at the edge of a sidewalk, driveway, or curb would be useful...as my first thought/question was can I trim the disk to get the popup to emit the water right over the egde of street curb.
Yes you can.
Is there a possibility that roots grow in the mini drywell and into the pipe itself, even though there's landscape fabric? Love the videos, extremely informative and useful for someone living in Manitoba.
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I've got a corrugated pipe that just dead ends under the grass. There's a drop off of at least a meter and a half between the start and the end of the pipe. During heavy rain events, there is enough pressure in that pipe that the grass will rip and open up, allowing gravel and other miscellaneous materials to wash out. The grass falls right back into place as soon as the rain is over. I definitely should do something to set it up better, but heck, its been working fine for about 2 decades at this point.
Nothing like a good thunderstorm to clean out a gutter drain.
Hello Robert, I’m out of Columbus, Ohio. It is standard to take our roof water run off systems under the sidewalk and to the curb. The problem is that the pipe has to belly under the sidewalk and then come back up to go out of the curb. Is there a way to develop a fitting that would connect to 3 inch schedule 40 pipe but it would flatten out to reduce the belly effect but still retain the capacity of a 3 inch pipe
I will work on it. That is a good idea because it will not chock down the flow. The water will speed up in the smaller diameter pipe "Mass Flow Rate" water in motion with its kinetic energy.
thank you for the video. How deep do i have to dig for the blue pipe
how do i ensure water will run off to street?
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Is there a certain % slope you shoot for when putting these in? Are you shooting laser or just running with the natural slope?
Both. 1% Slope. If I can get more I will always take it.
Wish they had the “new” pop up before I did all my downspouts with the old spring loaded style w the turf restrictor plate. Have never seen a spring loaded style lift up at all during heavy rains and wondering where that water is going.
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This would work down in fl ..lots of heavy rain..down here no freezing going on..
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if you have a problem with both downspout water and standing yard water, will the same product you installed work or would you need a combination/separate French drain???
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I'm curious how this system is going to catch shingle gravel if it gets stuck under the slab before it makes it to the pop up. Wouldn't smooth PVC have been better?
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When would you use the in-line catch basin instead of a D-box? Also, no knife cut after the catch basin? Trying to plan a DIY install and getting confused with all the different installation methods in different videos.
I will make you a video. This video will cover everything. Thank you for commenting.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN Does the 4inch Pop-up Emitter Catch Basin with Sump remove the need for a separate 4inch Catch Basin? Or do you need to use both?
If you connect 4 downpipes to a single 4 inch hose will that not reatrict the flow of water in a heavy rain. Even with 2x3 small down pipes you have 6 square inches of flow in every diwnpipe x 4 and you have 24 square inches going i to a 4 inch hose which is only 12.5 square inch cross sectional pipe. ??
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Do the math. We do.
I have a very similar situation to tackle with the addition of a basement sump pump discharge. I'm worried about the underground freezing and then backing up my sump pump discharge. Any solutions of which I'm unaware?
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For this type of use case with downspouts, do you have to create a slope on the trench since it’s a flat property? Also, would you use the type of pipe without holes?
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I am wondering if it could you use the pop up on the discharge line of a sump pump?
Absolutely
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I wish I knew where you guys where at... I'd hire you without question.
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What's the big issue with shingle gravel?? I've never heard of any issue with it. Not like alot will come off the roof all at once, it'll take YEARS for enough to clog anything up.
roots!
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What type of landscaping fabric do you recommend we purchase when doing this (or other) projects
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I was just thinking the other day about how you wrap the slotted pipe with landscaping fabric. Do you think it would be ok to pour some anti weed liquid into the cleanout at the gutter? Would it harm the pipe?
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Why don't you want the spout water running to the yard? I am in Texas, we take all the water we can get
Great, educational video. We purchased a new home a little over a year ago. New construction. Whoever installed the pop up drain for the downspout in front of our house must not have done it correctly. I'm basing that off the fact that this past winter, our front stoop, right where the drain runs under, has cracked. Including a corner of the driveway. My theory is that the drain pipe thawed and froze during the coldest part of the winter. Now the builder that built our house is out of business. :(
Sorry to hear that. Take it to the storm sewer.
At what point do you need multiple pipes off multiple downspouts? I have 3 downspouts and I'm wondering can I connect them all to 1 drain pipe and popup? Or will that overwhelm the system? Texas flood area
As long as it's a 4" pipe your solid. We run up to 5 downspouts on a 4" line in Michigan. I wouldn't advise that for you. 3 isn't a issue.
How many downspouts should you try and y together? And what is the minimum distance you should run away from the house?
I was going to ask the same questions, how many downspouts can you wye to a single pop up? And distance?
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Pop-up emitter are huge! Could you hide it with some short astroturf?
Grass grows over them fast.
Can i run a solid corrugated pipe from downspout to inline catch basin, to solid corrugated pipe to wye connecting to the middle of a high octane french drain pipe?
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how does the drain pipe react to being penetrated by core aeration tines? it looked like the install wasn't low enough to prevent penetration in the fall.. but i could be wrong, just doesn't look like it. thanks
Core aeration is a cash grab. It's for bentgrass not Blue Grass Blends. Save your money. I own a landscaping company. FDM is owned by a design build company and my turf management background is extensive. Aeration is a rip off. People see the golf courses core aerating the bentgrass and think they need to do their lawn at home. Cash grab for the lawn guys. Again save your money. I hope this helps. Thank you for commenting.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN 10-4, I am not familiar with the turf in Michigan. Makes sense to me now .. I live in Virginia, the fescue pretty much has to have it. But makes sense to me why you don’t have to bury things as low as we do. Good stuff! Thanks for the reply.
Question - Are catch basins required? How come the Buried Downspout Kit for 1% Slope Kit on your website doesn't include them? In this video, would it be OK to connect the two downspout pipes with a Wye and not have any catch basins? In other words, would it work if you did everything the same as in the video except not use any catch basins?
Does the new 4 in. Pop-up Emitter Catch Basin with Sump remove the need for catch basins as you have in this video?
I want the catch basin to collect shingle gravel as well as a vent. In the winter the street is plowed and snow is ice packed on the pop-up emitter near the street, the water can vent out the basin.
Great video! We are on a small corner lot with about a total of approximately 8 feet from the corner of the house/downspout to the public sidewalk. Do we need a d-box or vent or can we run the blue pipe directly from the downspout to a pop up? We have a second downspout on the other side of the front of the house that is about 15 feet back from the sidewalk. Thanks!!
It's nice to have a in line catch basin if you have asphalt singles. I recommend that.
Can you run over the pop up emitter with a mower without damaging it? Seems like the vacuum of the mower might pull the hatch up and then cut it to pieces.
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So, Have you got away from having a clean out using the 12” round distribution box which was located just after the downspout connection, 5’-10’ away? Thanks
If there are really big trees we still use a giant Basin. The problem is nobody vacuums / cleans them out. Our smaller in line is quick and easy to install as well as pop the four inch grate and stick a shop vacuum hose to the bottom of the basin. People have trouble with the bigger basins. We built it for the DIYers but now it's mostly what my customers want. My men love them too.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN Thank you !
What would you do in San Diego we need to keep the water on the property
Build a Leach Field
Is there a catch basin made to hookup directly to the downspout? My drain line is 3" to the curb. I don't really want to dig up the yard cuz I live in a HOA place.
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Hello would you know anyone in Louisville Ky that would be as good as you guys at doing down spouts drains
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Nice video why did you burrito wrap the pop up y?
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i don't have a down sprout, what's the range of for this project if I need about 12-15 feet away from my house, labor and materials? how long this material last?
The Blue Pipe last forever because it's HDPE virgin material on recycled material.
At what point do you switch over to machinery vs hand digging your trenches?
Economics
How well do the pop ups work when they have snow on top
We have a Groove in the pop-up plate and the water comes out around the hinge. It's also to clean the hinge point to remove grass blades or debris. It doesn't have to pop-up. It's pretty incredible really. So much development went into the discharge system. It's actually pretty cool to see the water come out when it's closed. It takes 3 downspouts to run it at half throttle. 6 downspouts and it's entertaining. 8 downspouts and it's exciting. It's boring under normal use by design. You won't be disappointed to own one. It will never get lost in the grass and you can stick your hand in it to remove leaves or sticks. We built it because everything on the marked had short comings. The pitfalls were many. We took all pop-up emitter on the market and use there failure points to develop ours. I have so many stories about this pop-up emitter V2.0 I should do a video about all the Hurdles we had to clear.
Right down to making it out of Virgin HDPE with no blown in filler. It's the last pop-up emitter you will ever have to buy. Thank you for commenting that was a great question. We will do so many more instructional videos this summer highlighting the function and features.
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the product that the industry needs is that pipe at a much lower price
Right now materials are at a all time high and we are just happy to have the materials. It's been a struggle for sure. Again I'm just glad I have the materials. It's cheap when you compare it to a failed system on budget materials that needs to be done Again.
I just installed the larger catch basins on all of my downspouts. What’s the difference between those and these new ones?
You have to clean the new small ones sooner. The new smaller install so much easier. They fit everywhere. If you are feeding a ton of leaves and sticks into the system then the larger would be better. If small trees or few trees the small basin works just fine. It's easier to pop the grate and vacuum out the small basin than to take off the screwed down lid on the bigger basin. Those are the differences.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN does the bigger box kill the flow rate?
@@thegolftechie not if you have 1% Slope.
Where can I get some of that blue pipe I have some downspouts where the lawn mowing person hits it with his weed eater and has cut holes in it so I need to cut it off at ground level put an adapter on it and then connect it back to the downspout I need about 6 ft to do three downspouts.
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I need to replace existing black plastic tube. I don’t know which I need: live in Indiana, do I need a basin or dry well?
We use a Hybrid Pop-up Emitter/ Basin Dry Well
How deep are the spouts buried? Any worries that an aerator would puncture the pipe?
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If i wanted to run 3 downspouts to main line to one pop up emitter what would you use. ? Imnin florida where there are heavy rains at times that overwhelm my 2 downspouts thats why im running a third…. I do not want to run 3 seperate main lines out to the street if i dont have to. What size main line pipe ? The run from the downspouts to the street will be around 20-50 feet
I would use our armor Pipe in 4" you can go up to 4 downspouts.
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Do you have a link to a 3 into 1 wye and the best pop up emitter
Nice. can u drive over this? as I might install this across the driveway. how deep are your trenches for this install?
Pack it in crushed stone 3/4" for driving over the pipe
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN Thanks
Is there any issue with using similar sized PVC for a job like this? Southeast USA
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Can you attach downspouts to the french drain system?
Only if you wanted to destroy your french drain and give it an early expiration date.
I moved into a home where downspouts were cemented. Problem is the downspout connection that’s cemented has been damaged and leaking to the side of the house.
What is the best way around this to fix it without damaging concrete
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Playlist doesn’t do any help. I watched lots of your videos and haven’t seen one with my problem
So is there no caps at the bottoms of the pop ups and clean outs.
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So do you cap the bottom of the basin or leave it open?
Leave it open.
What kind of tape are you guys using on those connections?
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How do I find someone in my area (WI) that does what you do? Search for landscapers? Plumbers? I need a sump pump discharge line buried and a downspout underground line attended to. Thanks!
Google "Yard Drainage Contractor near me."
Not sure if i understand the need for the in line basin? your leaking water into the soil at the bottom of it which confuses me if the purpose is to get rid of water as far away from the house as possible. you also mention its purpose is for venting but the connection at the downspout should have a vent on it right? just trying to understand this. i live in chicago and don't have a huge lot so i really only want to put in a vent/cleanout at the downspout connection and then the pop up at the end of the run near the sidewalk.
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How much does a job like this cost. Thanks for sharing.
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I would think it would take an absolute downpour for those gigantic popups to work.. Have a feeling alot of that water is going to drain through those catch basins close to the house.. Am i missing something?
Water finds the lowest points. The catch basin is up stream.
Does a mower not lift up the pop-up lid and destroy it?
If the homeowner doesn't install the pop-up at the proper depth that can happen, but the top is easily replaced.
How deep do you dig your French drains and how wide
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