I like the change to "this creature". Every now and then you'd see someone asking if a creature with say a draw on etb effect would trigger for another creature with the same name coming in. This creature makes it more clear that it was just referring to itself.
@@DontCryJustJeskai there’s a dnd goad dragon commander, but I think that’s also good space to work with. There’s been a handful of cool one off legends in izzet but, like Boros, it’s needs a facelift
Uthuun still has the advantage because you make the choice. The new one lets the opponent make the choice. In fairness, though, if you were playing Sphinxes or an UB reanimator that was interested in one, you'd probably be interested in the other.
I know the channel is EDH deck building. So you'll be talking about it from the EDH standpoint. But, this set is very obviously meant to set up standard. So it confused me when you were saying 'do we really need more of that'. Because, yes we do need it. This is effectively resetting standard and becoming the base for the next 5 years. So there wouldnt be any archtypes at all. So they need to include things like spellslingers payoffs so those decks are playable.
More so even than your typical standard set, as Foundations will be legal in standard until at least 2029. If they have these payoff cards in Foundations, they don’t need to keep releasing versions in other sets as sets rotate out twice as often.
Sure, but a card like Archmage of Runes is clearly aimed at Commander and I doubt it will be popular in Standard or enable some Spellslinger deck there. To do so you simply would have to need a different card. And it is not that hard to design cards that enable certain archetypes for standard and do not powercreep commander at the same time. The reality is that commander is a driving factor for sales so WOTC thinks they need to print a bunch of these "must include" cards in every new set, which is especially sad to see for foundations, considering what the set is supposed to be.
I don't think any rare that isn't an obvious 60 card staple is aimed at commander. They have been making big dudes that don't end up being good since the start
6:08 the only white one was the assassins creed one, now we have an in universe white version of it which was not available before, for people who don’t want to use a UB one
plus the knight are actually pretty dang expensive compared to the others also legendary artifact's is not necessary a theme in mono white but tokens on the other hand is a piece of cake
Except they could've reprinted any of the existing cards if that was the case. The design space as of the last 3 years has been stale AF. I've almost come to expect certain mechanics each set. For example, lately, every set has had an impact tremor but with small difference in card types. Demo is right.
@@hahahafunniness To be fair, that's how it has always been to some degree at the very least. Every set design staples have existed for two decades now.
@@DaijDjan i think it's also a direct effect of the deluge of new cards a year. I am ok with having "strictly better" upgrades for certain type of effects like Impact Tremors, however, not at the rate of every set lol.
@@hahahafunniness it’s not a matter of right and wrong? I’m saying that was the obvious design goal. I imagine they didn’t reprint a whole set of each colors leylines because they just added a set in duskmourn and if you do one color you need to add all 5, thus the colorless leyline axe FWIW I do agree that the design space has been stale with a few exceptions
Gigantosaurus is a rare. A good comparison would be Vorstclaw, which was printed 4 years ago... The power creep a real and Quakestrider Ceratops is a good example I think.
I really loved Bloomburrow, but didn't care for Duskmorn. I think I'll get this one too. But I honestly plan on pulling out a lot because of some SLD and UB issues.
I like they made the hair apparent because the assassins creed one isn’t very accessible and are 3-5 bucks a pop. Only had one person I could even trade to for them.
Quilled Greatwurm going straight to my Gitrog deck; saddle with the wurm, big frog connects, gets +7/+7, sac the wurm, draw 7 and can even bring it back next turn.
I feel like the 20ish year transition from Grizzly Bears -> Bear Cub is pretty funny. Although I still don’t think 2 squirrels should be able to take down a bear cub.
Preposterous Proportions is, funnily enough, a great alternative wincon card for Chatterfang. You often end up with dozens of squirrels without much effort, which you'll usually just sacrifice for aristocrat procs, but running overwhelm effects is a 100% viable option as well for decks that go ultra wide. I'm definitely running this in Shroofus Sproutsire when I build him.
Has anyone ever did a "unless" tribal deck? That perforating Artist would go well in it! Deck idea : all cards that gives choice to opponent with the word "unless" like those rhystic cards and rhystic cave! Commander : Parnesse or the original Nicol Bolas
Quakestrider is definitely a sleeper, I can easily see that on turn 4 and there's a MILLION ways to give things trample, like Leyline Axe lmao. Honestly I like Hare Apparent but really just for the fact that I can take a solid chunk of non thematic filler out of my Finneas rabbit tribal meme deck that makes it both more memey and more streamlined. Soulstone is probably something I'm going to slot into Wizard tribal for sure, Azami draws off of it and counts for Patron Wizard as well
Quakestrider Ceratops is not the largest 6 mana vanilla creature. Yargle and Multani is a 6 mana 18/6. I believe it was also the most recent vanilla creature printed till this set.
yeah and I feel like elementals are more likely to be cheated out for free by effects than a dinosaur and even in that context people didn't seem impressed by yargle and multani.
I take a leyline axe over free spells any day of the week. Also its, as far as i remember, only the 2rd "leyline" where the effect still takes a bit to be relevant. 1st one is the leyline that lets you cast stuff for wubrg.
Equip Perforation Artist with Assault Suit in a deck where you have good sacrifice fodder generation and watch as everyone has to sacrifice/discard 3 cards or lose 9 every cycle.
All the "any number in a deck" cards have been commons... Except the assassin's Creed one. That was a break from the usual and I'm glad a common white any number card is coming to pauper commander. Yes it's still probably going to be a $2 common but it is actually a common. Now I think the set is done and no more is needed.
Though it is not putting it directly on the battlefield, there is (are?) already a creature(s?) having an effect before the game even starts if it is in a player opening hand: Chancellor of the Dross.
I think Banner of Kinship is worse than it looks. Unlike something like Coat of Arms you need a pre existing giant board state to get the most out of it as opposed to a statuc stat boost. Not unplayable, but average.
On the other hand, dropping coat of arms WITHOUT a board state risks getting mowed down by someone who manages to spit out a handful of tokens right after. A boardwipe sets you back to square one. Banner of kinship only effects you, and if there's a wipe your new guys will inherit the buffs from your old board.
it does tho look at a rhino sure it skin is hard but its still not that protected but charging with that horn it could pierce a car door and flip it over now imagine the damage a giant triceratops could do.
@maximillionchaoswolf that's totally true. I'm basing it off the vibes of a dinosaur book I read when I was a kid; the tyrannosaur was the attacker and the triceratops defended.
5:22 even as a rabbit enthusiast I also am very tired of the joke names and I wish they would stop, I feel bad including this and Claim Jumper in my rabbits typal deck. :(
I bet you nobody will play Quakestrider in their decks there is too much competition especially in the green stompy slot, even a mono green deck is more likely to play that new Eldrazi than this card.
oh and ever since ulalek eldrazi's are apearing more often again and thats just skull in crossbones with coat of arms if an opponent is playing eldrazi's because they are already that size without coat and banner this just doubles their size. oh and scrawling crawler you missed the biggest commander for sure thee best deck for it is "Valgavoth, Harrower of Souls" that is the long awaited perfect group slug commander and he grows whenever a opponent loses life for the first time pretty much he grows every single draw step. lunar insight is much easier it looks for mana value rather than golden ratios creature power typically creatures powers are similar or the same some times based on the deck this is mana value which is mostly different and with quilled greatwurm im shocked you didn't talk about the mechanic you talk about the most in your underplayed videos and thats creatures with cumulative upkeep this removes any kind of counter from creatures so you can start over with you cumulative upkeep creatures with this, and it can go further than that you can also remove Finality, -1/-1 and even stun counters to recast it. oh the whole it stupid hard to get thirteen creatures to pay only B to do it ....i don't know what people are thinking its like they not even realizing it's counting every creature on every board thats why red and whites blaspehmous effects (white is vanquish the horde) gets so cheap this is no different and its mana cost is the cheapest of the 3 five mana is like no problem in commander. and like you said theres cards that do the same thing one less mana but its far less creatures
I just find it kinda boring to play the same spell a whole game. They could have made it more interesting too like you are building a family tree of bunnies instead. With restriction for each generation. Could have different art also like the nazguls that was really popular.
I like the change to "this creature". Every now and then you'd see someone asking if a creature with say a draw on etb effect would trigger for another creature with the same name coming in. This creature makes it more clear that it was just referring to itself.
I feel as if blue/red is desperate for a new theme outside of artifacts and spellslinger.
I think izzet would be a good home for a fresh goad commander. Goad stuff, draw when goaded stuff deals damage. Maybe that already exists idk
That's why my only izzet deck is Ghyrson Starn. At least it's mostly pingers
@@DontCryJustJeskai there’s a dnd goad dragon commander, but I think that’s also good space to work with. There’s been a handful of cool one off legends in izzet but, like Boros, it’s needs a facelift
@@DontCryJustJeskai It already exists in BR, UB and UR indeed ;)
A subtheme of Izzet is draw twos and tokens. I am not sure what new ground izzet could go.
The most important reprint of the set is Zetalpa Primal Dawn, because we definitely don't have enough of it!
Uthuun still has the advantage because you make the choice. The new one lets the opponent make the choice. In fairness, though, if you were playing Sphinxes or an UB reanimator that was interested in one, you'd probably be interested in the other.
I know the channel is EDH deck building. So you'll be talking about it from the EDH standpoint. But, this set is very obviously meant to set up standard. So it confused me when you were saying 'do we really need more of that'.
Because, yes we do need it. This is effectively resetting standard and becoming the base for the next 5 years. So there wouldnt be any archtypes at all. So they need to include things like spellslingers payoffs so those decks are playable.
More so even than your typical standard set, as Foundations will be legal in standard until at least 2029.
If they have these payoff cards in Foundations, they don’t need to keep releasing versions in other sets as sets rotate out twice as often.
Sure, but a card like Archmage of Runes is clearly aimed at Commander and I doubt it will be popular in Standard or enable some Spellslinger deck there.
To do so you simply would have to need a different card. And it is not that hard to design cards that enable certain archetypes for standard and do not powercreep commander at the same time. The reality is that commander is a driving factor for sales so WOTC thinks they need to print a bunch of these "must include" cards in every new set, which is especially sad to see for foundations, considering what the set is supposed to be.
I don't think any rare that isn't an obvious 60 card staple is aimed at commander. They have been making big dudes that don't end up being good since the start
6:08 the only white one was the assassins creed one, now we have an in universe white version of it which was not available before, for people who don’t want to use a UB one
And the only uncommon in the "any number" cards which is also a downer
plus the knight are actually pretty dang expensive compared to the others also legendary artifact's is not necessary a theme in mono white but tokens on the other hand is a piece of cake
The leyline axe and “any number of” card are probably included in foundations specifically to introduce new players to these mechanics
Except they could've reprinted any of the existing cards if that was the case. The design space as of the last 3 years has been stale AF. I've almost come to expect certain mechanics each set. For example, lately, every set has had an impact tremor but with small difference in card types. Demo is right.
@@hahahafunniness To be fair, that's how it has always been to some degree at the very least. Every set design staples have existed for two decades now.
@@DaijDjan i think it's also a direct effect of the deluge of new cards a year. I am ok with having "strictly better" upgrades for certain type of effects like Impact Tremors, however, not at the rate of every set lol.
@@hahahafunniness Oh, absolutely for sure :)
@@hahahafunniness it’s not a matter of right and wrong? I’m saying that was the obvious design goal. I imagine they didn’t reprint a whole set of each colors leylines because they just added a set in duskmourn and if you do one color you need to add all 5, thus the colorless leyline axe
FWIW I do agree that the design space has been stale with a few exceptions
Banner of Kinship is absolutely going to be put in EVERY Krenko deck going forward.
Gigantosaurus for GGGGG has been around forever.
Gigantosaurus is a rare. A good comparison would be Vorstclaw, which was printed 4 years ago... The power creep a real and Quakestrider Ceratops is a good example I think.
It has a much heavier mana cost, which I like
I really loved Bloomburrow, but didn't care for Duskmorn. I think I'll get this one too. But I honestly plan on pulling out a lot because of some SLD and UB issues.
The power creep is real though lol
The furry is a Bloomburrow fan? Color me suprised.
Stoked to include Quilled Greatwurm in my Slimes Against Humanity deck
I like they made the hair apparent because the assassins creed one isn’t very accessible and are 3-5 bucks a pop. Only had one person I could even trade to for them.
Quilled Greatwurm going straight to my Gitrog deck; saddle with the wurm, big frog connects, gets +7/+7, sac the wurm, draw 7 and can even bring it back next turn.
I feel like the 20ish year transition from Grizzly Bears -> Bear Cub is pretty funny. Although I still don’t think 2 squirrels should be able to take down a bear cub.
Preposterous Proportions is, funnily enough, a great alternative wincon card for Chatterfang. You often end up with dozens of squirrels without much effort, which you'll usually just sacrifice for aristocrat procs, but running overwhelm effects is a 100% viable option as well for decks that go ultra wide. I'm definitely running this in Shroofus Sproutsire when I build him.
Has anyone ever did a "unless" tribal deck? That perforating Artist would go well in it!
Deck idea : all cards that gives choice to opponent with the word "unless" like those rhystic cards and rhystic cave! Commander : Parnesse or the original Nicol Bolas
You do need creatures to die for Spinner of Souls to trigger, so it’s not going to work against exile unless it goes to graveyard before you exile.
I love your content!!!
Im definitely getting that greatwurm for my thalia and gitrog wurk tribal deck
I *am* amused that the Ceratops is just double Craw Wurm (at the same total cost)
Proposterous Proportions is awesome if you have something, like Kodama of the West Tree, that gives your team Trample.
Quakestrider is definitely a sleeper, I can easily see that on turn 4 and there's a MILLION ways to give things trample, like Leyline Axe lmao.
Honestly I like Hare Apparent but really just for the fact that I can take a solid chunk of non thematic filler out of my Finneas rabbit tribal meme deck that makes it both more memey and more streamlined.
Soulstone is probably something I'm going to slot into Wizard tribal for sure, Azami draws off of it and counts for Patron Wizard as well
What happens if you do not have 13 creatures on your battlefield?
you sacrifice whatever you have
Quakestrider Ceratops is not the largest 6 mana vanilla creature. Yargle and Multani is a 6 mana 18/6. I believe it was also the most recent vanilla creature printed till this set.
finally a good vanilla creature for my Ruxa deck.
yeah and I feel like elementals are more likely to be cheated out for free by effects than a dinosaur and even in that context people didn't seem impressed by yargle and multani.
Nice! Magnus the Red gets some dragos 😎
I take a leyline axe over free spells any day of the week.
Also its, as far as i remember, only the 2rd "leyline" where the effect still takes a bit to be relevant.
1st one is the leyline that lets you cast stuff for wubrg.
Quakestrider goes in Selvala
Equip Perforation Artist with Assault Suit in a deck where you have good sacrifice fodder generation and watch as everyone has to sacrifice/discard 3 cards or lose 9 every cycle.
Preposterous Proportions seems to me like a one-sided Green board wipe. Simply because it doesn't have Trample.
All the "any number in a deck" cards have been commons... Except the assassin's Creed one. That was a break from the usual and I'm glad a common white any number card is coming to pauper commander. Yes it's still probably going to be a $2 common but it is actually a common. Now I think the set is done and no more is needed.
Though it is not putting it directly on the battlefield, there is (are?) already a creature(s?) having an effect before the game even starts if it is in a player opening hand: Chancellor of the Dross.
There's a chancellor for each color. They all do opening hand things.
I think Banner of Kinship is worse than it looks. Unlike something like Coat of Arms you need a pre existing giant board state to get the most out of it as opposed to a statuc stat boost. Not unplayable, but average.
For 5 mana it's a nice finisher, it shines with Alela Artful Provocateur.
On the other hand, dropping coat of arms WITHOUT a board state risks getting mowed down by someone who manages to spit out a handful of tokens right after.
A boardwipe sets you back to square one.
Banner of kinship only effects you, and if there's a wipe your new guys will inherit the buffs from your old board.
Wait wouldn’t Valkyrie’s call go infinite with a free sac outlet…? That’s pretty wild.
They came out with 2 slime againstrumentality and this a** includes one with hair apparent.That's three in one year
Yeah makes total sense that the vanilla ceratops card has greater power than its toughness. /s
it does tho look at a rhino sure it skin is hard but its still not that protected but charging with that horn it could pierce a car door and flip it over now imagine the damage a giant triceratops could do.
@maximillionchaoswolf that's totally true.
I'm basing it off the vibes of a dinosaur book I read when I was a kid; the tyrannosaur was the attacker and the triceratops defended.
I didn't think wizards designs in a way to see crappy assassin sales and add hare apparent
5:22 even as a rabbit enthusiast I also am very tired of the joke names and I wish they would stop, I feel bad including this and Claim Jumper in my rabbits typal deck. :(
craterhoof is a color break because of haste, not trample
Wrong. Green also gives haste. Look at cards like Sarruk and even Concordant Crossroads
@@hahahafunninessI mean they are really an handful, considering the percentage.
@@dariocampanella7992 doesn't mean it's a color break. Just a signal that it's not a primary mechanic of it.
leyline axe is a cool concept, but if it's not in your opening hand its terrible
I bet you nobody will play Quakestrider in their decks there is too much competition especially in the green stompy slot, even a mono green deck is more likely to play that new Eldrazi than this card.
i don t know what happen with your delay in your voice, i think has too much :)
oh and ever since ulalek eldrazi's are apearing more often again and thats just skull in crossbones with coat of arms if an opponent is playing eldrazi's because they are already that size without coat and banner this just doubles their size.
oh and scrawling crawler you missed the biggest commander for sure thee best deck for it is "Valgavoth, Harrower of Souls" that is the long awaited perfect group slug commander and he grows whenever a opponent loses life for the first time pretty much he grows every single draw step.
lunar insight is much easier it looks for mana value rather than golden ratios creature power typically creatures powers are similar or the same some times based on the deck this is mana value which is mostly different
and with quilled greatwurm im shocked you didn't talk about the mechanic you talk about the most in your underplayed videos and thats creatures with cumulative upkeep this removes any kind of counter from creatures so you can start over with you cumulative upkeep creatures with this, and it can go further than that you can also remove Finality, -1/-1 and even stun counters to recast it.
oh the whole it stupid hard to get thirteen creatures to pay only B to do it ....i don't know what people are thinking its like they not even realizing it's counting every creature on every board thats why red and whites blaspehmous effects (white is vanquish the horde) gets so cheap this is no different and its mana cost is the cheapest of the 3 five mana is like no problem in commander. and like you said theres cards that do the same thing one less mana but its far less creatures
I just find it kinda boring to play the same spell a whole game. They could have made it more interesting too like you are building a family tree of bunnies instead. With restriction for each generation. Could have different art also like the nazguls that was really popular.
Will Leyline Axe get banned at some point? How is cheating something out for free, on turn one, that different from fast mana?
If affinity was still relevant, leyline axe would be $50 each.
Trash artwork + cash grab it’s all by design 🍿🤡
Stop being salty about everything
You lemmings are such NPC. Dude was positive about some cards and didn't like others. I bet you cried when Trump won.
i spent like 30 mins talking about the good stuff from this set. you people seriously are impossible to please.
@@edhdeckbuilding some people just need to be called names
Proposterous Proportions is awesome if you have something, like Kodama of the West Tree, that gives your team Trample.