First Class on the AMAZING Brenner Pass Express
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Hello and welcome back to Austria for another super scenic International EuroCity trip report from Austria to Italy!
Today we will be taking EC81, the Munich to Bologna EuroCity which traverses the beautifulBrenner pass, the lowest mountain pass in the Alps, but don't let that fool you, it's still an absolutely STUNNING journey, so I hope you enjoy the video!
Date of Filming: 9/9/21
Camera: GoPro Hero 7 Black
Operator: ÖBB (Austrian Railways)
Departure: Innsbruck, Austria
Arrival: Bologna, Italy
Cost: First Class - €54.40 (£47.90, $67.16)
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First travelled this magnificent route in1958 while on holiday with my parents .Have travelled it many times since never bored with this route. OBB are well organised .
At the time the Bolzano - Brennero section was still electrified with the three-phase alternating current system at 3600 V 16 ⅔ Hz
I love how you always end your videos with a shot of the train station. Well done!
Thank you so much 👍🏻
Those stunning scenery of the mountains whilst travelling by train is like having a dream. Marvellous view 😍
Couldn't agree more Andrew 😃
One for my travel bucket list, that. Nice one!
You should!
Austria is just the most beautiful country in the world in my honest opinion. Wish i could live there!
Amazing isn't it ☺️
There are some things not right in this video.
There is no Wi-Fi on DB-ÖBB Eurocity and Interrail users have to pay fee to ride on the Eurocity to/from/in Italy. 10€ in 2nd and 15€ in first.
About the restaurant car, it is not back. It will gez back when this winter this trains will be replaced by the new Railjets with level boarding.
Sorry, you are incorrect! DB/OeBB make no additional charge for Interrail travel too/from Italy (other than the reservation fee) and I have frequently used wi-fi on OeBB intercity services.
@@keithparker2206 DB and ÖBB terms of use of their trains in Italy, Interrail website and ÖBB website says something different. Fee to use DB-ÖBB trains in Italy and no Wi-Fi. Only Railjets, ICE and german IC carriages have Wi-Fi.
@@am18957 OK, so how come I travelled from Innsbruck Hbf to Milano Centrale last year on EC85 as far as Verona, and have just made a resevation on EC85 to Verona from Muenchen in June. Am travelling on a First Class global Interrail pass and only charge has been €3 reservation from OeBB. Lst year, I had wi-fi access on the train.
@@keithparker2206 How much was the reservation?
Often the staff on the trains does not ask for it.
@@am18957 €3 per seat (I am travelling with my wife).
Welcome to my home town ;-)
Regarding the legroom:
The position of the seat itself is adjustable too, between a short set (vertical sitting position) and a longer seat with a more hanging-around taking-a-nap position. Maybe the seat was in the latter position and you didn't realized the adjustability.
I agree though on that there could be a bit more distance between the seats.
Btw., those EuroCity trains are from the 1990ies or so and they are scheduled to be replaced on the Munich/Innsbruck/Verona line by brand-new 2nd generation RailJet trains starting December of 2023.
I tried both and it didn't improve!
That is going to be amazing :)
I didn't know that. But I think it's not necessary the replacement. Because, it's a cozy rolling stock in my opinion.
@@marioluxrodriguez5048 it's quite necessary. The ECs have no Wifi, unreliable toilets, no onboard information displays, no business class, I consider the ECs museum stock.
Even the oldest 1st gen. RJs are scheduled for a refurbishment once enough 2nd gen. RJs are rolling.
Beautiful views! I'm adding this to my bucket list for my next holidays. Thanks!
Have fun! ✌🏻
Are you sure the restaurant car is back? I'll be travelling from Innsbruck to Bozen next month. According to Seat61: "These EuroCity trains no longer have a restaurant car, only a trolley service. The restaurant cars were becoming unreliable on the 3kV DC Italian power supply and it is not worth upgrading the power system as the classic trains shown on this page will be replaced by swish new railjet trains in 2024."
Yes you are correct. Very sad 😭
South Tyrol is SO beautiful!
Absolutely 😁
This is the train I take every vacation, from Verona to Innsbruck, I love it sm, but I wish it was more comfortable and faster, can't wait for the Brenner Basis-Tunnel! Greetings from Barcelona.
But the views will go!!
The OBB CEO is my cousin Martin Gradnitzer
Thanks for posting. My best experience: I seem to have fallen in love with the Austrian Railjet. Last year I travelled in one from Salzburg to Wien in second class and from Venice to Villach in first class. Awefully beautifull and comfortable train, super service. The train you post here will see me later this year, its sister I mean, the EC83. The EC81 leaves Innsbruck 8 minutes after the arrival of the Nightjet from Amsterdam and the 8 min interval seems not a good idea.... So your video is quite informative for me. Thanks again!
Sounds amazing, thanks for sharing 😊
Thanks for the panoramic ride !!! 🇺🇾
Any time!
Truly incredible scenery. I have been to Rome, Sorrento & Venice but never to this part of Italy or anywhere in Austria. Seeing this makes me want to go however. Great job.
It's well worth the trip 😄
Great video !!
Thanks!
Beautiful Route!
Yes it was!
10 minutes late or an hour early depending on your outlook on how punctual certain rail carriers operate, great post and fantastic views
Bom dia muito lindo trem atraves do etunning brenner pass da Áustria para Itália
An ÖBB locomotive swap in Italy, interesting!
Thanks for the historical facts, they made the video even better!
Glad you liked it Thom. Not as interesting as a Trains are awesome video tho 😁
@@NonstopEurotrip for just 10000 pounds I’ll teach you all I know, and you too shall be like me
@@Thom-TRA sounds like a great deal, where do I sign?! 😌
❤❤❤ beautiful journey. I enjoyed a lot. Nice informative. Keep it up and good luck 👍👍🤞
Thank you! Will do!
amazing trip! wow!!!
It really is!
Great video, absolutely loved it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
With that gorgeous scenery my eyes would be out the window also. Definitely not on my iPhone/iPad. Seats in both classes looked comfortable but of course the edge goes to First Class where you were. Good to know the restaurant car is back … what could be better than enjoying a lunch as you pass through beautiful scenery? I too enjoyed visiting Verona even though I was only there once. Thanks for taking us along! 😉👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed the trip Rob, and yes completely agree, Verona is amazing 😍
First Class leg room is simply unacceptable. You look like you can barely squeeze into cramped space between seats. Facing second class seats with the tiny (unusable) table also look cramped, but the scenery is amazing.
Yeah you pretty much summed it up there Sam 😄
Have travelled this train from Innsbruck to Verona truly wonderful journey
✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
Wonderful Countryside .
I did the first bit Munich to Innsbruck going through the valleys surrounded by mountains.Stunning scenery
Absolutely. I've only done that section on a railjet
I travelled on the exact same train at the end of October 2022. I'm not sure from where the train train originates, but it was rammed when I got on at Innsbruck. I'd reserved a seat in 1st Class, but it was occupied. Train staff were conspicuous by their absence and I had to throw a hissy fit to get my seat. There was no restaurant car and no trolley service. Luckily I'd stocked up on enough water and food at Innsbruck to keep me going until Bologna. Once I was settled, it was a lovely ride.
Excellent, thanks for sharing! 😁
Google translates "trolley" as "tram". Google should limit itself to selling pistachios near the entrance to football stadiums...
@@Luigi-uj5ml Depending on the context, the word trolley can describe multiple types of vehicles: shopping trolley (shopping-cart), food trolley (a small cart to sell/distribute food and beverages on trains or airplanes), trolley bus (an electric bus powered via overhead wires), trolley car (tram/streetcar, a rail vehicle operating on street level), ...
Automatic translation services traditionally struggle with context.
The Brenner Pass's days are numbered as a bypass tunnel is being built right now to reduce travel time. Even more reason to take the trip soon.
And Bologna is an underrated destination. Being the culinary capital of Italy, it is especially a paradise for meat lovers. I've been there few months ago and ate the best lasagna ever in my life. It also is abundant in terms of sightseeing (it has twin leaning towers which outdates the more famous one in Pisa).
Completely agree 💯
@@NonstopEurotrip They're not gonna just... get rid of the older Mountain Pass Line though right...? There are towns that the tunnel bypasses that will still need trains. The Old Gotthard Line in Switzerland is still preserved and uses passenger trains with the Gotthard Panorama express and Treno Gottardo. I suspect that's what will likely become of the Brenner, heck maybe a new company could form called "Treno Brennero" 😉
You known that you are in italy when you se e white rails
Absolutely yes
What a great trip, great train and Amazing scenery. Between Open seating and Compartment, is depending on situation, But I like Compartment because I can sleep peacefully on it rather than open seating.
If it's not too busy! Glad you enjoyed the journey 😀
There should be a quiet car so that the traveler can enjoy the spectacular scenery in peace,
It would be nice eh 😉
I always opt for a seat in the compartment cars, there's a maximum of five other people with you in the compartment - in most cases that's really quiet.
Fair Verona, where we lay our scene!
Honestly shocked to hear the train was on time. Every time I've taken this exact train (twice I'll admit) going the other direction back from Munich it always is very late, between 30-60 minutes, because of issue at the tunnel/Italian border.
I've never had a problem with this route!
I did travel this route last April! First part from the Austrian part of the Brennerpas is amazing, sadly going down you looking against a lot of noise barrier, so there is not mutch to see :(
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nice train vlog
Thank you very much!
Awesome 🚅🚄🚆🚝
Thanks ✌️
Innsbruck my fav station
Beautiful place 🤩
My suggestion for a scenic route is the REX3 from Salzburg to Wörgl - sure, it's a bit slower then a Railjet or EC, but it's worth the time with all the nice regions passed (Zell am See, Kitzbühel and some other places) - I've taken this train to Kitzbühel a few times now and it's always great. Only negative thing is that this train is going every 2 hours, so if you miss one, you have to wait 2 hours to get the next one.
Right now I'm looking for a daytrip connection from Salzburg to Vienna (Wien) and the best ones are a Nightjet starting at 4.33 am from Salzburg for 14.90€ and going back with another nightjet at 7.46 pm or 9.27 pm from Vienna for also 14.90€ - almost 30€ for both ways and enough time to explore the city without a hotel stay (I live in Salzburg)
yesterday I've seen the new generation of Nightjets on a sidetrack parked at Salzburg main station. It has the same frame as the new Railjet but the front car looks like a Siemens Vectron locomotive, not like the Siemens Taurus (1116/1216) on the actual Railjets. (the new Railjet was parked here also a week ago)
Thanks for the suggestions!
Great scenery and information. Did you notice if dogs were allowed on the Train? Thank you.
www.oebb.at/en/reiseplanung-services/vor-ihrer-reise/mit-haustieren-verreisen#:~:text=In%20order%20to%20ensure%20the,supervised%20by%20the%20dog%20owner.
you could have avoided the stereotype about late trains, official data says otherwise and they are better than france and germany. I invite you to read the article praising the Italian railways by DER SPIEGEL.
I was once on an intercity notte that arrived 7 hours late!
@@NonstopEurotrip are you generalizing for once? do you know how many nightjets arrive late every day from austria to the italian border!
@@attenzioneallontanarsidall7940 I've been on many of them too 😂
Nonstop Eurotrip isn't too wrong though! I've lived in Italy (near Naples) for about 10 years and go to Italy at least once every year, and regional trains have always been unreliable, infrequent (for example from my local station: no trains in either direction between 09:00 and 13:00), often really late, slow. Not to mention infrastructure: Naples-Bari railway line, an important corridor, is single track for almost the entire length! And the use of 3 coach DMUs (Minuetto Diesel or Swing, or sometimes, even worse 1-2 car ALn 663/668) on important corridors like to Campobasso or Avellino from Rome or Naples...
Now thankfully they're no longer as late as they once were, plus Naples-Bari railway line is being upgraded to 100% HSR double track as well as electrification to Campobasso and Avellino which will mean superior electric trains like the TAF, E464+Vivalto, Minuetto Elettrico, Jazz, Rock & Pop. But there's still a lot to improve!
Great vid! Interesting the 2nd loco was another ÖBB 1 vs something from the Trenitalia fleet... Q: would the Verona - Bologna portion also be used by NightJet to/from Munich...?
Very interesting yes, and Good question! 🤣
It's unfortunate that so much of the Brenner south ramp is in tunnel. The descent from Brenner and the approach to Bozen is very scenic, but is now hidden from view.
Indeed yes!
From Alps to Appennines!
Great idea!!
i have been to the same train you've been
😍😍😍
Is there one side of the train that you would recommend for best views? We're going from Munich to Bolzano.
Right hand side for sure ✌🏻
Question: does the Railjet from Venice to Vienna also travel through the Brenner Pass?
No, no where near. But it does use the Semmeringbahn, which is just as good 😊
Compartments! I think "Regio-Jet" has bought ÖBB:s coaches from their earlier generation
I believe so!
Do u have any idea why rails are white color on some sections? First time I saw such a thing.
So they absorb less heat and expand less in the sun, up to 10 degrees less I believe
Dammit! Sigh. Another one for the list.
Sorry 😂
seats are the same as in the dutch icm ic-direct trains
Question worth 1 million sesterces: on RFI is the ITALY coupon of a possible InterRail One Country considered acceptable without having to pay any "Supplementary toll collection fee on board"? The same question concerns the famous international tickets of the FIP (Free international tickets for railway workers and family members): for the section in Italy, is it necessary to request the Trenitalia coupon or that of the DB / ÖBB in Cooperation? On the RFI section, do the engine crews still depend on Ferrovie Nord Milano (FNM)? Grateful for the attention given to me, I welcome the opportunity to extend cordial and best regards
Apparently I should have paid, but I didn't 🙃
It’s an age-related thing but listening to children being allowed to disturb others without any parental intervention is annoying and inconsiderate. Especially if you have paid First Class. Some people can tune it out but not if you are older and had a more disciplined upbringing as regards’Manner’. 👍🏻🏴 Of course the Brenner Pass was where Hitler met Mussolini.
I agree, but also don't let it bother me!
Children are meant to be seen not heard.
Yep. Same with airplanes
Hey two comments. For a global pass you have to buy a 10 Euro “Passzuschlag” and not the 3 euro seat reservation. Dining car unfortunately is still missing on the route, i suspect due to technical problems with the dining cars.
Strange, I didn't have to!
Will be changes to Brenner Pass with new tunnel under Brenner Pass. Oh yeah OBB CEO of Innsbruck is my cousin
Compartments please. And could you please send some to America? Smile
Sure, they're on the way!
How did you feel about the trains that have their seating facing the opposite direction of travel? This is why I think the Swiss and French trains are better than the German and Austrian.
I have no problem with it, it's normal. Swiss and French train seats don't rotate either.
Interesting point
the clock stopped at 10h25
I have nothing to complain about the scenary and the train itself. But how they run these trains is terrible. Let me explain: I travelled fron Verona to Munich with OBB. I haven't any problems until we reached Innsbruck. There were a lot people without tickets on board the train. And they didn't do anything. I heard some rumors about Frecciarossa running from Milan and Rome to Innsbruck and Munich from 2026. I really wish that Trenitalia and Deutsche Bahn do this route for the italian flagship train
Yes, that would be great! 😃
Hello, really nice video. If you have the opportunity you should try a train called 'vigezzina centovalli". It's a slow train with great views, and it runs between Italy and Switzerland 🇮🇹🇨🇭
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Welcome back to Eurotrip land from more distant parts 😏
Thank you, I didn't notice, I'm new here and I've never seen a video about it, so I'm quite surprised!
i was travelling from bologna to munich with this euro city September 2022, in Brennero/Brenner the Austrian Police checked every Passport...
We didn't have any checks!
@@NonstopEurotrip Right: they check for illegal migrants on entering Austria, don't need to in the other direction.
The usual stereotypes, 10 minutes late is not so bad (for Italy). If an even greater delay occurs in another country (see video on the EuroCitY EC45 from Berlin to Warsaw) never mind, it is justifiable.
Some of my worst train delays in the world have been in Italy
Ok, some doesn't mean all, so try to justify the delays you've had in Italy as well.@@NonstopEurotrip
I am compartments fan hooligan! I hate open space cars 😊.
I don't mind a nice compartment 😌
Did that child[and the people with it] stop being NOISY?
Nope 🙃
Shame on you for that improper comment on Italy’s delay. 😤
True tho 😉
I've also commented attaching stats that show that about 89% of Italians trains arrive on time but he deleted my comment...
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South Tyrol is not Italy!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_South_Tyrol#:~:text=Modern%2Dday%20South%20Tyrol%2C%20an,Powers%20in%20World%20War%20I.
For sure Alto Adige is Italy 😘 get informed
At least it is, politically
@@luke211286 Every now and then some guy get annoying in such an unnecessary way. Austria is also German, since they speak German?
@@giovannimoriggi5833 Liechtenstein too. Or Flanders is Netherlands, because they speak Dutch there
You travelled like a king - because you were the only passenger. No one inside no one outside.
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Again a sponsored ad above others!!! This isn't good at all!!!
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The stop in Brennero/Brenner is still required, as there's a voltage change (from the 15kV 16⅔ Hz AC for Austria, to the 3kV DC for Italy). And also because it's the terminus station for national services (both austrian and italian).
There's in construction the Brenner Base Tunnel, from Innsbruck to Fortezza/Franzensfeste, for almost 60 km, which will become on its opening in the late 2020s the new longest tunnel in the world, and will alleviate freight trains from the old line, that goes pretty steep to a 1,300m altitude (the highest point is the Brenner Pass).
There are plans also to build more tunnels along Trentino Alto Adige, siding the historic Brenner-Verona line, to alleviate it from the heavy freight traffic that's increasing year after year.
Also the change of signalling to ERTMS/ETCS would mean more international transport.
Thanks for the information ℹ️
Technically the train could just coast through the station while changing voltage, but it is still a border and there may be occasional passport (or ID-card for EU citizens) spot-checks. And it's of course an interchange to regional trains, serving the intermediate stops.
btw. the north ramp of the Brenner is already equipped with ETCS (as is the line from Innsbruck to the German border). The south ramp in Italy and the line to Verona is currently in the process of being upgraded.
@@stephanweinberger some months ago, FS said that they would undertake a massive project to shift signalling to ERTMS on **all the railway lines**, at least by 2036.
Main projects undergoing are the Turin-Milan-Venice classic line, the Milan-Chiasso(-Gotthard) and Milan-Domodossola(-Simplon) lines.
Seems a really big project, especially for southern Italy, where SCMT hasn't been installed in some lines, and there are few electrified railways (zero in Sardinia, left often for last for railway projects)