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I know right? I can't get enough of it, I was always a cynical asshole but I thought everything skateboarding was great, just because it was skate related but once I started to progress, I definitely started hating shit lol like girl boards, I hate the shape, the tapered nose and tail, all pointy and shit. The logo, the name, I just can't skate their shit lol
I love old school Toy Machine boards, moreso than what they currently sell. If they did some reissues of thier vintage graphics, shapes, etc I think it would be so sick. A few old 90s Templeton graphics come to mind (before my time but they're really cool looking)
Plan b will forever be the “jock” of skate companies to me. Remember when Prod still rode for them and they had that mini doc series on ride channel? It seemed like their whole focus was to just stack a super team instead of one that feels organic.
@@DOODOOBUTT_ those will always be the wackest companies. I'd much rather support a brand where all the riders are chosen/fit in organically rather than try to build some stacked talent super team
25:38 - The Zero "27 Club" - those are all artists that killed themselves / died at the age of 27. But yeah, assuming they chose an artist they resonated with or enjoy the chosen artist's music.
i was about to comment this but like do we not think that its a bit offensive to make boards of deceased people with like deathly/horrific kinda imagery plastered on it? im a big fan of zero but like surely thats kinda fucked
@@oscarh6947 i'm a fan of the graphic style but the context is in bad taste. making them look like zombies when they passed at a young age... yikes. not a good look.
Creature, zero, krooked and Baker will always be solid because they figure it out how to have a very recognizable style that's always unique. Plan B reminds me of NASCAR, especially when people put stickers on them it looks corporate. A few of the more mainstream brands including primitive are guilty of looking very corporate and overly accessible. Passport and welcome are probably the best Indie looking brands. Almost and girl haven't changed much over time. Rip and dip can go to hell, they basically don't really support any individual skaters and are a bad copy of the other "indie" brands. Oh yeah, I like WKND. Although that brand relies on nostalgic trends a good bit with some boards, the art style is very minimalist and appealing.
This sort of proves why brands like Toy machine, krooked, alien, baker etc all have constantly good graphics because the people behind it have an actual artistic vision. And brands like Plan B, Thank you, etc don’t have anything deeper than ‘putting the logo on stuff’
for the most part Toy has good graphics but the sect pee, the anti scooter (we all no scooters suck, no need to put that on a deck) , the stabbing blood and guts are tiresome. many of the one offs and the sock puppet series are cool.
I didn't know passport was an Aussie brand, but I love their clothing. Finally a skate company that makes quality clothing at a decent price. Personally, I think they're aestehtic is better than Palaces overpriced hype shit. Definitely getting some passport gear soon
I remember when that zero cole board with the stripes on it came out the first time, must’ve been around new blood coming out or going into filming for that zero promo/ride the sky. I thought it was peak Chris cole graphic, I wanted to skate it so badly hahaha
For me Baker stands the test of time as one of the all time classic skate brands. They've got such a unique design language and theyve never strayed to far away from that style. Baker figured out a look and generally stick to it, which happens to give them the room to experiment each year with some fun and wild graphic designs since even if they F up with a really horrible graphic series or two, they always got the foundational look to fall back on.
Its amazing how Baker makes the block script lettering work so well for them after all these years, im sure some folks find it quite stale and boring but when it comes to brand recognition Bakers block lettering is as iconic of a logo as they come...I mean, Baker is easily one of the most iconic and recognizable brands in skateboarding. You can spot a Red, black, and white Baker block letter board from across a field and easily recognize it for being exactly what it it.
I’d like to hear your opinion on some of the newer frog graphics cause I think they definitely dropped some of the low effort quirk stuff and have some really nice artsy stuff
1.The Terminator Blind graphic for Henry Sanchez 1992 (Marc McKee) 2. Girl x Spitfire joker paint face logo Mike Mo 3.101 Charles Manson Peanuts Gang graphic Adam McNatt 1992 (Sean Cliver) 4. 101 Gino Ianucci "Gravediggas" 5. 101 Jason Lee/Natas Devil Graphic. 6. Anti Hero "Eat Shit and Die" Series. Graphics are shit these days compared to what went down from 1990 to 1994.
Creature is my favorite brand they have the best feeling boards i've skated with gnarly graphics at a good price point. Their team is intimidating skills wise and they are like a family that parties and thrashes the expectations every skatepart they feature is outa this world. They skate the biggest rails and do the craziest vert spots. Gravette is my favorite rider he's so chill till he can't stick his trick then he gets unhinged but i love every second of it.
Hot take - the striped Chris Cole board is kinda fire and a Zero classic! They had it in gold too. Personally I'd go for the skull on yellow background
The collabs are so weird. It's like we're back in the 80s and you and your bros all got your Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle decks you got from the department store.
I love my old element graphic deck but a lot of the new ones are really missing the mark. The OG’s and the Bam ones looked great. Ever since Bams downfall they fell off big time
Creature S tier. THis guy is the ultimate get off my lawn guy. OG graphics are the best, mark gonzalez can do no wrong, Nyjah doesnt skate for them anymore so they arent cool, etc.
Polar, FA, Hockey, Quasi, Welcome, Krooked, and Anti-Hero are the best graphics imo... although I'd probably also put Baker and Isle in as honorable mentions
I know youve covered all the board brands in various videos by now,. I think you should make a ranking video "best 90s/2000 skate brand graphics nowadays" and rank a bunch of the core skate brands against eachother in a battle to see whose staying most true to there roots when it comes to graphical design, also could do the battle of parent/sister brands Choc vs Girl, Baker vs. deathwish/heroin...birdhouse, Blind vs Almost, enjoi, thank you etc etc you get the idea.
I have a theories deck rn I'm skating w Mason graphic that's sick af. It also has a dope top graphic that I cut out. I like when companies make the effort to put a good top graphic for those who like to do grip jobs.
@@vaocl I agree to a point but the have some nice graphics that dont have edgy nudity the Girl with a gun graphic might be one of my favorites of all time
Passport to me is the Aussie polar, but I say that in a good way. Currently riding one of there's for a couple months now and it's a good sturdy board, definitely gonna go back when this one carks it
I can't knock them, I just can't They sent me beanies for free when I was recovering from brain tumor removal. I'll always have a soft spot for them in that regard.
I dont like element graphics either but I do remember having a good experience on a bam deck way back in the day, they have some good shapes but thats about it, mystery is the same I dont really like their boards but I did have a really good experience skating a deck a long time ago.
I bought a ripndip board last year because it was unsellable at a local shop and was going for 40 bucks CAD. I'll basically buy anything if it's cheap enough, I skate solo anyway. Well... worst 40 dollars I've spent in a long time. It broke in a week from flatground tricks.
Maybe I’m getting old and jaded but I love this type of content that calls out what’s corny in skateboarding
I think this is why we are all here.
Im old and jaded and I agree with this ranking from end to end
Ur not old and jaded. I'm 15 and I love this :)
It’s on some Ricky Oyola trip. I want to hate it, but it’s hard to disagree with the points.
I know right? I can't get enough of it, I was always a cynical asshole but I thought everything skateboarding was great, just because it was skate related but once I started to progress, I definitely started hating shit lol like girl boards, I hate the shape, the tapered nose and tail, all pointy and shit. The logo, the name, I just can't skate their shit lol
i saw a ripndip ad in a thrasher mag my heart shattered
dood you should see the louis vuitton ad
my heart sharted
@@lbaxter6396 I'd much rather see a Louis Vuitton ad than a fucking rip n dip ad lol
Pls do another tier list with different brands for the same category. I'd really like to hear your take on FA, 5Boro and Isle.
Agree and Madness, Creature, and Toy Machine
@@pierrecannarsa3161 Madness is the SHIT dude fuck I love that brand
Palace, Polar, Hockey, Skateboard Cafe too, there are loads more:)
@@conaillclarke1845 Polar and Hockey are definitely 2 of my favorite board companies
Heroin too
Toy Machine are my favorite graphics of any board company. I also think you should have given enjoi a little more credit but that’s just my opinion.
Toy machine is the overall best company ever. Art, graphics, teams everything
Fax enjoi fire like the new wwe decks that came out
I love old school Toy Machine boards, moreso than what they currently sell. If they did some reissues of thier vintage graphics, shapes, etc I think it would be so sick. A few old 90s Templeton graphics come to mind (before my time but they're really cool looking)
Ed is a legend, TM has the quintessential skate rat aesthetic that I love. Plus the mellow nose and tail is really good for Nollie flips
@@soydave1988 I want the Chris Senn board with the cat on it lol
i feel disrespected that u put Enjoi so low, to me they are what skateboarding is all about, friends fun and laughs.
This is more about the graphics of the board not about what the company stands for or anything like that.
i like the graphics for the most part but i think the graphics were way better when Marc Johnson was on the team.
@@something_in_the_radiator1665 when MJ left, enjoi left with him. They didn’t go to shit right away though.
Agreed enjoi was at least A tier
Enjoi boards are boring.
The only problem with pizza skateboards graphics is that pizza skateboards made it
ootl. what exactly is wrong with pizza?
Couldn’t say it better myself
Same thing about their videos haha
@@Davidtime what’s wrong with pizza and their products/videos?
@@hollow_w33n their videos are awesome but the company sucks for all the reasons mentioned in the video (stupid name, low effort corny vibe)
Plan b boards were on another level of disgusting
And they don’t even have a good shape to back it up
Plan b will forever be the “jock” of skate companies to me. Remember when Prod still rode for them and they had that mini doc series on ride channel? It seemed like their whole focus was to just stack a super team instead of one that feels organic.
@@DOODOOBUTT_ those will always be the wackest companies. I'd much rather support a brand where all the riders are chosen/fit in organically rather than try to build some stacked talent super team
Woulda been cool to see Chocolate / Girl and Habitat, i love brands that work around specific artists
Chocolate Evan Hecox graphics have been consistently great.
Was also waiting for girl
Quasi is a S tier brand IMO same with hockey and maybe isle
Absolutely
Definitely agree
But they're from Ohio... Eew.
Quasi is goated
"i dont want to advertise your brand"
30 seconds later: "i cant even tell this is an element board"
Those april graphics sure do look primitive!
Lol good one
My favorite graphics decks always come from Polar, Evisen, Hockey, Alltimers and Yardsale. 🤷
word.
yeah, just bought a polar deck and they look dope
25:38 - The Zero "27 Club" - those are all artists that killed themselves / died at the age of 27. But yeah, assuming they chose an artist they resonated with or enjoy the chosen artist's music.
i was about to comment this but like do we not think that its a bit offensive to make boards of deceased people with like deathly/horrific kinda imagery plastered on it? im a big fan of zero but like surely thats kinda fucked
@@oscarh6947 i'm a fan of the graphic style but the context is in bad taste. making them look like zombies when they passed at a young age... yikes. not a good look.
@@something_in_the_radiator1665 just a bit of dark humor. Which in it of itself is kind of offensive to begin with
Creature, zero, krooked and Baker will always be solid because they figure it out how to have a very recognizable style that's always unique. Plan B reminds me of NASCAR, especially when people put stickers on them it looks corporate. A few of the more mainstream brands including primitive are guilty of looking very corporate and overly accessible. Passport and welcome are probably the best Indie looking brands. Almost and girl haven't changed much over time. Rip and dip can go to hell, they basically don't really support any individual skaters and are a bad copy of the other "indie" brands. Oh yeah, I like WKND. Although that brand relies on nostalgic trends a good bit with some boards, the art style is very minimalist and appealing.
This sort of proves why brands like Toy machine, krooked, alien, baker etc all have constantly good graphics because the people behind it have an actual artistic vision. And brands like Plan B, Thank you, etc don’t have anything deeper than ‘putting the logo on stuff’
for the most part Toy has good graphics but the sect pee, the anti scooter (we all no scooters suck, no need to put that on a deck) , the stabbing blood and guts are tiresome. many of the one offs and the sock puppet series are cool.
@@something_in_the_radiator1665 they can’t all be winners…. But Toy Machine is good overall
When he pulled up that sheckler graphic all I could think was “Get this shit off my screen”
So fucking bad
Damn I was reading this as the graphic came up. Looks like some douchebag shit
It's insane they actually said "yep looks good, this'll go into production"...like what the fuck
Pls do more of these pretty entertaining and I enjoy you giving a real opinion
skaters hanging their old decks around the house like a piece of art. this is our version of art hahahaha
Still got my Cliché Daclin Bomb Hills with flint inserts hanging above the entrance. Go buy film trucks and get off indys. Thank me later.
I have a Dan Pensyl corner store freshie on my wall and a nick basario (sp?) Polar square nose
stoked that the aus brands like passport and butter are being recognised in the us
I didn't know passport was an Aussie brand, but I love their clothing. Finally a skate company that makes quality clothing at a decent price. Personally, I think they're aestehtic is better than Palaces overpriced hype shit. Definitely getting some passport gear soon
in a decade of plan b the only thing that has changed is the logo tilted maybe 10-15 degrees to the left
Agreed on your point about Collabs, only exception is the Creature and Gwar collab!
Look up the 27 club and all those boards will probably seem a lot more dope to you
This was hilarious, especially the rip n dip part
I remember when that zero cole board with the stripes on it came out the first time, must’ve been around new blood coming out or going into filming for that zero promo/ride the sky. I thought it was peak Chris cole graphic, I wanted to skate it so badly hahaha
For me Baker stands the test of time as one of the all time classic skate brands.
They've got such a unique design language and theyve never strayed to far away from that style.
Baker figured out a look and generally stick to it, which happens to give them the room to experiment each year with some fun and wild graphic designs since even if they F up with a really horrible graphic series or two, they always got the foundational look to fall back on.
Its amazing how Baker makes the block script lettering work so well for them after all these years, im sure some folks find it quite stale and boring but when it comes to brand recognition Bakers block lettering is as iconic of a logo as they come...I mean, Baker is easily one of the most iconic and recognizable brands in skateboarding.
You can spot a Red, black, and white Baker block letter board from across a field and easily recognize it for being exactly what it it.
ok
I’d like to hear your opinion on some of the newer frog graphics cause I think they definitely dropped some of the low effort quirk stuff and have some really nice artsy stuff
1.The Terminator Blind graphic for Henry Sanchez 1992 (Marc McKee)
2. Girl x Spitfire joker paint face logo Mike Mo
3.101 Charles Manson Peanuts Gang graphic Adam McNatt 1992 (Sean Cliver)
4. 101 Gino Ianucci "Gravediggas"
5. 101 Jason Lee/Natas Devil Graphic.
6. Anti Hero "Eat Shit and Die" Series.
Graphics are shit these days compared to what went down from 1990 to 1994.
cant lie with u chief you pretty on point
Creature is my favorite brand they have the best feeling boards i've skated with gnarly graphics at a good price point. Their team is intimidating skills wise and they are like a family that parties and thrashes the expectations every skatepart they feature is outa this world. They skate the biggest rails and do the craziest vert spots. Gravette is my favorite rider he's so chill till he can't stick his trick then he gets unhinged but i love every second of it.
Should look at Polar graphics. Honestly some of the best in skateboarding imo. great content btw, man
This channel is a hidden gem
Hot take - the striped Chris Cole board is kinda fire and a Zero classic! They had it in gold too. Personally I'd go for the skull on yellow background
I love how we agree on every single tier you chose for each
great video sir. another hit. keep up the good work. the length is perfect too :3
youre not geeling anyone with your 6 ac counts! bot!!!
When you said college girls dorm room on a tapestry that shit was nuts because I literally was thinking that as you said it. So spot on
That eye deck from thank you is actually really sick
The collabs are so weird. It's like we're back in the 80s and you and your bros all got your Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle decks you got from the department store.
I love the turtles so I can't ever disagree with a turtles collab lol
Your videos are the highlight of my day
I like how he's complaining about Frog and not realizing he's looking at 5 year anniversary reissues of their old stuff :P
Anthony Fantano of skate
the lines you come out with are hilarious. Keep it up
Love it. Can we get a part 2 w FA/Hockey, Santa Cruz, and some of the other big names? Make sure to include at least a few you loathe. Thank you.
It’s crazy how accepted chocolate is as a serious skate brand but then pizza is kinda clowned on for having a food name 😂
I love my old element graphic deck but a lot of the new ones are really missing the mark. The OG’s and the Bam ones looked great. Ever since Bams downfall they fell off big time
i had the bam "cat" element deck as a kid
really liked it
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the pass port board on the beach is naturally pleasing to look at
My new favorite channel
5:40 : "we're approaching Darkstar territories" hahahhaa
Creature S tier. THis guy is the ultimate get off my lawn guy. OG graphics are the best, mark gonzalez can do no wrong, Nyjah doesnt skate for them anymore so they arent cool, etc.
he's right
Polar skate co. palace and yardsale have the best deck graphics atm alongside passport
Polar, FA, Hockey, Quasi, Welcome, Krooked, and Anti-Hero are the best graphics imo... although I'd probably also put Baker and Isle in as honorable mentions
@@soydave1988 Darkroom has some good graphics. Reminds me of old Habitat graphics.
@@juvedoo99 ehhh not really my style, but I respect those vintage graphics
the killing floor graphics are some of my favorites, check em out
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I like designs that take up the whole board
I know youve covered all the board brands in various videos by now,. I think you should make a ranking video "best 90s/2000 skate brand graphics nowadays" and rank a bunch of the core skate brands against eachother in a battle to see whose staying most true to there roots when it comes to graphical design, also could do the battle of parent/sister brands Choc vs Girl, Baker vs. deathwish/heroin...birdhouse, Blind vs Almost, enjoi, thank you etc etc you get the idea.
I was happy to hear that you had the same thoughts on graphics as me especially quasi because I tend to ride them more than everyone
I wanna see classic skateboard brands rated ex. powell peralta, santa cruz, vision, etc...
Santa cruz still makes cool decks with the exception of some collabs
Santa Cruz always had solid graphics imo
Love this keep it going !
I like to ride enjoi skateboards. I like the designs they had. I guess it's just the style.
"entering darkstar territory" lol rip
I'm addicted to your videos your doing God's work love the content
We need more videos like this
6:26 thank you lol, couldn't put my finger on why I've always had an instinctual aversion to ripndip
The Barry McGee Baker decks are fantastic!
FA, Hockey, anti hero, and girl are my fav graphics
As soon as you mentioned Faktura I knew this was a great video
Love the channel keep making videos
About the real shit in skating very few other people do call out the bs so maximum respect for this channel
I have a theories deck rn I'm skating w Mason graphic that's sick af. It also has a dope top graphic that I cut out. I like when companies make the effort to put a good top graphic for those who like to do grip jobs.
quick add: those frog graphics were old reissues from 5 years ago
Great vid. Agree with you on most. Can we please get a follow up or round 2 to this video with different companies.
yes!
These vids always make me laugh
did this man just say 'hot garb'
those new baker graphics are sick - Andy Jenkins styles
The quasi acid ply shit is just a troll btw lol
Wish you would've had Flip and Toy Machine in the tier list. Been two of my favorite companies for 20 years now
do a video on woodshops you like and or dislike
Brother Merle should've done those graphics for skate mental
Shane staying on skate mental is an interesting alternate universe
gifted hater would love SOVRN SKATEBOARDS FOR SURE
Another hit from 1800nipps
Also pretty sure rip n dip got the art from Leon karssen and never paid him
Classic baker always gonna be S tier for me.
"What an eye sore" couldn't have said it better dood
What do you think about strange love graphics
Hookups, Birdhouse, WI, and Girl have my favorite graphics
Hookups are getting old, the sexualizing asain girls is iffy
@@vaocl I agree to a point but the have some nice graphics that dont have edgy nudity the Girl with a gun graphic might be one of my favorites of all time
@@vaocl that’s been hook-ups whole thing from the beginning. And it’s way less now (it’s more of anime inspired rather than straight up hentai).
Gogle says: big news, Geoff Rowley now rides for fartstar
Quasi graphics are sick actually idk what anyone else thinks. They're doing weird shit and not playing it safe and fun
I appreciate the artistic direction Quasi goes in. The boards and clothes they release are always consistently great looking
SOVRN has some pretty cool and trippy looking graphics
U gotta do FA and Hockey
bro you missed out on the rip'n dip board with the girl on her knees, crazy for your talking point LOL
the welcome logo is sick imo idc
Never heard of passport gonna grab one of those stained glass decks, natural wood look is awesome.
I've had plenty the wood is bad quality in my opinion
Passport to me is the Aussie polar, but I say that in a good way. Currently riding one of there's for a couple months now and it's a good sturdy board, definitely gonna go back when this one carks it
@@amberruby4896 yeah I definitely see the whole "Aussie Polar" thing. Passport products are always great imo. And the Kitsch video was dope
We need a 2010 nostalgia board tier list
Why was 2010 such a good year? 2020 was like its polar opposite and it hasn't gotten better since.
The enthusiasm u had when entering the primitive website should've given it a +1 to tier lmao
He really opened my eyes on rip and dip
It's a shit brand and the owner sucks lol
I can't knock them, I just can't They sent me beanies for free when I was recovering from brain tumor removal. I'll always have a soft spot for them in that regard.
Pass~Port can do no wrong
I dont like element graphics either but I do remember having a good experience on a bam deck way back in the day, they have some good shapes but thats about it, mystery is the same I dont really like their boards but I did have a really good experience skating a deck a long time ago.
whats your opinion on the herion x texas chainsaw massacre collab from like 4 or 5 years ago?
Do a part 2 with European brands only! Sour, Magenta, Polar...
Seeing a pizza deck reminded me where the hell is chase Webb lately?
@Leapold Stotch there were some rape allegations against chase Webb so pizza decided to play it safe and kick him off the team
I bought a ripndip board last year because it was unsellable at a local shop and was going for 40 bucks CAD. I'll basically buy anything if it's cheap enough, I skate solo anyway. Well... worst 40 dollars I've spent in a long time. It broke in a week from flatground tricks.
Great video, would love to see another one with even more companies, like madness and powell
Edited: oh theres a part 2 lemme watch that
Urban outfitters sells Welcome
Damn...I know your young when you have no idea about the 27 club from Zero...Lol...Great content btw
Ayeee Krooked gang