Reviving a Packard Bell with onboard Voodoo 3!

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  • Bringing an old gem with a rare Voodoo 3 motherboard back to life!
    ‪@DKJones96‬ video on upgrading the MSI 6168:
    • 3Dfx Voodoo Powered Mo...
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    00:47 Case design
    01:54 Inside the case
    02:29 Disassembly
    03:03 Repairs
    05:35 Reassembly
    06:15 Trouble
    08:44 Conclusion
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    Music in this video:
    Blue Intermission by Congus Bongus [ / blue-intermission ]
    2 of us - Emil Axelsson [www.epidemicsound.com/track/0...]
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  • @LGR
    @LGR ปีที่แล้ว +165

    A rare beast indeed, nice job getting it going again!
    I've been curious to see one of these in action and yeah, for a slower V3 2000 with only 8MB RAM performance is understandable. Still so cool to have on-board! I wonder if it responds to overclocking in the same way as a dedicated card, I pushed my V3 2000 card as far as I could back in the day.

    • @OddObsolete
      @OddObsolete  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Thank you!
      Yeah, seems like it overclocks similar to the standalone cards. K2s Retro Workshop that I mention in the video actually ran some overclocking benchmarks at the end of his video, and it looks like it runs quite nicely. Haven’t tried it on my board yet though!

    • @SpeedIng80
      @SpeedIng80 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basically it's a Velocity 100, isn't it? Are there comparable results to be found?

    • @0raffie0
      @0raffie0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hmmm this channel somehow reminds me of someone... If only I could remember who...

    • @chiefthunderhorse4430
      @chiefthunderhorse4430 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't listen to this guy, he's lazy and reviews games or something

    • @TheGMan.
      @TheGMan. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@0raffie0 lol ☝️☝️

  • @SonicGronk
    @SonicGronk ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OMFG i had this one! I still got the motherboard, CPU and RAM. Played so much The Sims and Half-Life on it. Good times.

  • @demoniclese
    @demoniclese ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! This takes me back......back to when i was building those P3 machines when they were new!! Ahhhh.....the good ol' days....

  • @DongleSama
    @DongleSama ปีที่แล้ว +46

    wow i didnt know there was an onboard voodoo option. thats something to watch out for when i'm digging through old systems

    • @dave4shmups
      @dave4shmups ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here! I wonder if it was a Europe-only thing with Packard Bell?

    • @BerkayOzdenoglu
      @BerkayOzdenoglu ปีที่แล้ว

      3dfx was pushing desperately every button to catch up with nVidia TNT2 at that time. They were a GPU supplier at first, but after acquiring STB Microelectronics they also release their GFX cards. They cut the GPU supplies to other vendors. After that, you could get a Voodoo accelerator from 3dfx only. That more profitable but hard to do decision was their last mistake I think. With GeForce 256's release their fate had ended

  • @CYON4D
    @CYON4D ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good to see this old Packard Bell PC coming back to life. I still have two Win98 3dfx systems running. One has a Voodoo 3 3000 and the other has a Voodoo Banshe. Hope they will keep working for long years :)

  • @andrewgeorgelang
    @andrewgeorgelang ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, Mr LGR called. He wants his lamp back pronto ❤

  • @Spiffgaming
    @Spiffgaming ปีที่แล้ว

    That sound when win 98 starts... That took me long back. Diablo 1 and heros 2. Miss being young again.

  • @johnrickard8512
    @johnrickard8512 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most of the time it isn't worth saving an old prebuild rather than replacing the motherboard...but when the motherboard it has includes a Voodoo 3, even a slow one, that means that it is definitely worth saving.

  • @3dfxvoodoocards6
    @3dfxvoodoocards6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Excellent video. Motherboards with integrated Voodoo 3 GPU are crazy rare. I NEVER saw one for sale in my country.

    • @jopiebaksteen3856
      @jopiebaksteen3856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do pop up here every now and then, I managed to buy 2 of these (The Netherlands)

    • @Lindbergz
      @Lindbergz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What would one motherboard with 3dfx go for on ebay?

    • @YeOldeGeezer
      @YeOldeGeezer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lindbergz $25 (US)

  • @oaooaoipip2238
    @oaooaoipip2238 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seeing the back of this computer brings me back to my youth days. Seeing those connectors just makes me feel the way I did back then. Optimism, joy, a feeling of wanting to explore the possibilities. I guess it was around 2000 when we got fiber optics. 10/10 and I had my first modern computer that was my own and that I picked out. Thinking back of the wild wild web of the time makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Napster, Kazaa, Limewire etc. What a time to be alive. I used to carry that computer to LAN parties too. We'd play games for days and just have a great time.

    • @wysoft
      @wysoft ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a great era
      I remember getting my first 21" CRT which was great for home... the first LAN party I dragged it to, I regretted it.

  • @cfrend
    @cfrend ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yeah. I remember late Friday nights playing Counter Strike and StarCraft on my Gateway 2000 with a 3Dfx Voodoo. My Dad would fall asleep on the couch nearby watching antiques roadshow. Classic

  • @cordaxg6261
    @cordaxg6261 ปีที่แล้ว

    In late 1997 ny dad came home with our first computer. Its was a Packard Bell
    133mhz processor with MMX (clocking it to 166mhz)
    A 1.5 MB graphics card
    1.8 gig hard drive
    And a whopping 16mb Ram.
    The screen had built in speakers.
    A stand alone microphone and a remote.
    It ran on Windows 95 and killed everything we threw at it.
    2000 bucks for this beast ❤❤

  • @geomarin5412
    @geomarin5412 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    a small advice: never use an antistatic bag as a base for testing a motherboard. its conductive. nice video, amazing motherboard.

    • @nalinux
      @nalinux ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not conductive enough to cause any problem.
      I just made a test, and can't measure anything between 1 mm with my meter, on the 20M scale.

    • @geomarin5412
      @geomarin5412 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nalinux not all the bags are the same. just be carefull.

    • @nalinux
      @nalinux ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@geomarin5412 Maybe. But I've never seen anyone acting as aluminum paper foil.

  • @sauceseji
    @sauceseji ปีที่แล้ว

    case design screams the late 90s i love it sm

  • @unimatrix82
    @unimatrix82 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This really takes me back, i bought a Voodoo 2 as my very first GPU back in 98. Even know i have a pretty powerful system with a Ryzen 5900x and an RTX 3080ti now, i still play the old school games i grew up with like Hal-life, Quake 1,2 and 3 once and a while.

  • @CaptianInternet
    @CaptianInternet ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content! It gives me so many good memories. Thank you for sharing this!

  • @povilasstaniulis9484
    @povilasstaniulis9484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting bit of computing history. So integrating higher-end discreet GPUs into motherboards is an older concept than I thought.
    Even these days, integrated discreet GPUs are pretty rare in desktop systems, they're pretty much exclusive to laptops.
    As for those bad capacitors, it's always best to replace all same brand caps, even if only some of them look bad.

  • @TsjuunTze
    @TsjuunTze ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Voodoo 2 was legend. I had one back in the day. It only did the actual 3D part. The 2D part was done by the integrated graphics.
    Kinda SLC before SLC was a thing (Not really, but lets put it that way so the kids understand what i am talking about lol)

  • @sypharorigin
    @sypharorigin ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one of these back in the day... Good times... Very nice to see you revive this!!

  • @JohnSmith-iu8cj
    @JohnSmith-iu8cj ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job reviving that beautiful machine! ❤

  • @aquamarine2044
    @aquamarine2044 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another thumbs up! Great video! Great job on getting it working again!I love these old classic computers!

  • @erichkohl9317
    @erichkohl9317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back in the day I used to like the look of some of those Packard Bells, but you learn to keep certain things to yourself.

  • @prockrog5219
    @prockrog5219 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video dude! Love it! Keep on keeping on!

  • @the1ucidone
    @the1ucidone ปีที่แล้ว

    That Star Trek edit got me bro! Fantastic video.

  • @thedopplereffect00
    @thedopplereffect00 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The love and care you put into getting this rare computer working is incredible.

  • @cbw56
    @cbw56 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great restoration!
    I love the Packard Bell splash logo on the boot of this machine... Wow. 8:44

  • @monobiteme6014
    @monobiteme6014 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the editing of this video is so enjoyable to watch, love the way you work with this old tech. You deserve to have a like and subscribe, please do more :D

  • @awakenedsoul2638
    @awakenedsoul2638 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:51 I did bought an original CD of 98 SE before but was not able to install it in my XP machine. I did use 98 before but not on my computer, I did not used it long unlike the XP Professional. Hearing that boot up sound IS AN EARGASM TO MY EARS!

  • @techdistractions
    @techdistractions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely build - I would’ve been so happy with this back in the day 🎉

  • @Capital_KP
    @Capital_KP ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great work saving a gem like that! thats a nice motherboard 😊I need to learn soldering to repair some of my old boards. It's been 20+ years since I had Teknik class in school.

  • @orion1983uk
    @orion1983uk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video and nice find on this machine! So glad you got it working too. I can still vaguely remember when this machine was on sale here in the UK in PC World. The Gateway computer we had at the time had a Voodoo 3 3000 in it and I remember being impressed that Packard Bell were adopting 3DFX cards in their machines. I had no idea though it was integrated onto the motherboard though and had no AGP port for future expansion. I would have been more dissapointed at the time if I'd realised that, however, as others have stated in the comments, I do find it kinda cool now from a nostalgic point of view. It's also amusing that it's a mATX motherboard in a relatively large ATX case. I always liked the Packard Bell cases of that era too. The Club series cases were like a smaller mATX version of these Mulitimedia series cases, and the Platinum series cases had a more serious look about them, which I felt gave them a similar look to Dell and Gateway of the era.

  • @elvioguerrero5914
    @elvioguerrero5914 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome work man!

  • @erwinvan
    @erwinvan ปีที่แล้ว

    Nostalgia hits me again. Nice video

  • @AR-br7cl
    @AR-br7cl ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I feel so old. I remember this stuff being so amazingly high tech and unattainable (for me)

  • @r4z4m4t4z
    @r4z4m4t4z ปีที่แล้ว

    nicely done getting it back at it

  • @RaPtOr9600
    @RaPtOr9600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lots of work but it was worth saving the board and PC.

  • @SuperAgentman007
    @SuperAgentman007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember Voodoo three video cards I bought one once just the game kingpin when it came out for the PC.

  • @jopiebaksteen3856
    @jopiebaksteen3856 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man. I owned this machine back in the days. My dad bought me one when I was young. I used to play Soldier of Fortune, Red Alert, Unreal, Delta Force 2 and so on. Such great memories. Now I own 2 of them, managed to buy them. Had to replace some caps on one of them but they were running fine. Man I love these machines.

  • @Tasteslikepetrol
    @Tasteslikepetrol ปีที่แล้ว

    A great video. It really takes me back as my family had one of these exact machines (including the funky CRT with the side mounted speakers) as the family PC when I was growing up. I remember it came bundled with Diablo and Alpha Centauri.

  • @bokexd3173
    @bokexd3173 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you got into my recommended lol, you make great videos and I hope more people starts to watch more videos

  • @SUCRA
    @SUCRA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic find man. Nice repair too. 👍

  • @snowfoxcomputing
    @snowfoxcomputing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome find, and great job on the repairs. Now I need to add an integrated 3DFX system to the wishlist!

  • @newlinebraces2872
    @newlinebraces2872 ปีที่แล้ว

    Original Deus Ex AND Oni, I see you're man of culture as well

  • @ovedclali
    @ovedclali ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for give them new life again!

  • @rodrigocravo2888
    @rodrigocravo2888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video!

  • @Moi_Gospodin1337
    @Moi_Gospodin1337 ปีที่แล้ว

    very cool find!

  • @framebuffer.10
    @framebuffer.10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Of course I made it till the end, this video was awesome! 😎
    Maybe you can check the frequency, enabled MTUs and the fill rate of the voodoo3 to understand why it scores about 1/3 of what it should in 3Dmark 2000

    • @OddObsolete
      @OddObsolete  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I’ll look into it!

  • @jetcoughlogo5752
    @jetcoughlogo5752 ปีที่แล้ว

    great restoration! you have prety neat editing skills too, and overall presentation is also well done. You earned a sub, keep it up my dude :)

  • @joen3992
    @joen3992 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember a friend buying this computer new. And we install Quake 1 and setting the video to the 3DFX and playing the game with flawless graphics....damn! Wish I could to that today. Great game for it'd time.

  • @kmg501
    @kmg501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hahaha, I used to rag on machines like that one back in the day. Nice job on getting it working!

  • @markg3506
    @markg3506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice find

  • @sauceseji
    @sauceseji ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A beautiful case like that i'll definitely do a sleeper build.

  • @cwxdaf152
    @cwxdaf152 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the case design. Packard Bell had a certain something back then. I like a textured surface too, no fingerprints.

  • @Zhabishe
    @Zhabishe ปีที่แล้ว

    Good shit, my man. Subscribed.

  • @chumei5178
    @chumei5178 ปีที่แล้ว

    i bought the PIII 550mhz version of this. I am still using the case right now!

  • @Cyberdeamon
    @Cyberdeamon ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a good video for youtube to recommend me.

  • @krissjacobsen9434
    @krissjacobsen9434 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got one of these (with a 450 mhz celeron) almost 20 years ago as it was dead. I never found out what was wrong with it, but found that pressing the power button repeatedly hundreds of times slowly got it back into life. It would then work as normal until it was unplugged. I remember the hard drive containing a large library of MP3 music, many of which I've been unable to find online later.

  • @D4LM4R
    @D4LM4R ปีที่แล้ว

    I forgot just how 8:42 used to make your household look so smart and advanced, without even turning it on. Best house decoration of all time 😂

  • @Rakadis
    @Rakadis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I rocked the voodoo 3 for several years. I have no idea where that sucker went. But I still have the driver install CD...

  • @sergeleon1163
    @sergeleon1163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That brought back some memories, a cousin of mine had such model back in the day, I helped them set it up and install the PC when they got it.
    It came with a collection of software and games which where included by Packard Bell, from what i recall some of the titles where Encarta Encyclopedia, greetings card software, Games Blade Runner and Freddi Fish. They also had A2 racer but not sure if that was a pack-in or they got that loose. For reference this was in the Netherlands, I believe some of the included titles could differ per country/region.

  • @kiba3x
    @kiba3x ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oni, Carmagedon, Unreal, HOMM3 ...

  • @puppasdotcom
    @puppasdotcom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vilket jäkla hjältejobb för att få igång den, all heder! 👌🏻

  • @I_am_Allan
    @I_am_Allan ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved Slot 1 boards!

  • @calzonemaniacsvideocorner0804
    @calzonemaniacsvideocorner0804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic.

  • @ChadDoebelin
    @ChadDoebelin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    holy cow, i've never seen an integrated 3dfx mainboard

  • @gmcmaster1985
    @gmcmaster1985 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You shouldn’t power stuff on while resting on anti static bags - it’s conductive!

    • @OddObsolete
      @OddObsolete  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good point! Totally didn’t think of that, but yeah, that makes perfect sense.

  • @Bang4BuckPCGamer
    @Bang4BuckPCGamer ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome

  • @davidayres7973
    @davidayres7973 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh right in the old school pc feels. Part of me misses windows 98 because I spent a lot of time installing it on pcs back in the day.

  • @northernmonkeyplaystgames3121
    @northernmonkeyplaystgames3121 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi thankyou ,loved my watch , takes me back to my first pc back in 1999 pentuim 3 600, may of been a pb, i upgraded to 64mbits of ram new psu and a 3dfx oor voodoo card ,cost me 299.00 to upgrade lol

  • @LjubomirSimin
    @LjubomirSimin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! Still remember my 3dfx.

  • @Horeteppe
    @Horeteppe ปีที่แล้ว

    Well god damn, where we have our second household computer I grew up with! My goodness!

  • @UncleAwesomeRetro
    @UncleAwesomeRetro ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, I enjoyed it while having breakfast.

  • @da_cat
    @da_cat ปีที่แล้ว

    Man i love it when they put the sticker crooked ...

  • @NSHG
    @NSHG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Packard Bell sure did a lot of fun stuff with this machine. From making the case open backwards, to the hidden bays.
    And did you also notice there's only ONE USB port on the back, despite the board having two?
    As for the PSU outputting 3.4v - apparently that's one small caveat of those that run a sense wire on the 3.3v - the voltage rises slightly. I have a Sun Pro OEM'd unit here (Rhino RX-500Y) that always runs the 3.3v rail like that.

    • @OddObsolete
      @OddObsolete  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, haha, the blanked out USB port is weird! Maybe they had another mobo option with only a single USB and they just used the same IO shield or something.
      Interesting tidbit about the 3.4v, had no idea!

  • @Caleb-fv5fp
    @Caleb-fv5fp ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s cool I didn’t know there was official 3dfx case stickers

  • @BigDrewski1000
    @BigDrewski1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprisingly clean inside for a pc so old. I mean, yea, there was dust, but pc's that old are usually MUCH worse.

  • @TheRideGaming
    @TheRideGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love melty early 2000s design!

  • @l3lue7hunder12
    @l3lue7hunder12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should get yourself an ATX power tester. Those are gold if you attempt such things more often, and don't cost the world either. Note that especially the digital versions have issues with different ATX versions, such as the number of PINs and the presence / absence of secondary 12V and -5V line.

  • @goclunker
    @goclunker ปีที่แล้ว

    Packard bell was the apple of pc world. Always had some different stuff

  • @VladIDrago
    @VladIDrago ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing Case from '90s];-D... .

  • @Prodavion
    @Prodavion ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol this is a funny video, I've had the EXACT same PC as my first computer back in 1998 !, The PIII slot processor (Katmai core if I'm not mistaken), 64Mb of SDR-SDRAM and the Voodoo 3. I've had a lot of fun with it back in the day, I played a lot of Unreal Tournament and C&C Red Alert 2 with it :)

  • @debchak8107
    @debchak8107 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parts are ready just waiting for shipment

  • @romanm.4763
    @romanm.4763 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's beautiful

  • @marcelorauber_
    @marcelorauber_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Packard Bell laptop with Intel Centrino from 2002 that still works :)

  • @ZagTheWag
    @ZagTheWag ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video, not enough views. GHG would be proud.

  • @erictrauman2879
    @erictrauman2879 ปีที่แล้ว

    really really cool! oni is a great game!

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know everyone says this but I miss the sounds of turning on a PC from that era. It always made me feel like I was doing something important lol. Like starting a rocket engine. :D

  • @mushi1985
    @mushi1985 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a PIII 550MHz with the Voodoo 3 8MB onboard. Was really cool for Quake, interstate 76 and Need for Speed games with the 3dfx Glide.

  • @grahamvisagie7718
    @grahamvisagie7718 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got it!

  • @zhuowu
    @zhuowu ปีที่แล้ว

    at 9 mins that sound soooooo good

  • @PowerPoler
    @PowerPoler ปีที่แล้ว

    Heroes III 😍

  • @Azz156
    @Azz156 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had this exact pc when I was a kid but I had the P3 450, the onboard voodoo 3 was abit of a pain to get running in a few games.
    I had issues with games like redguard and Diablo 2, I remember the textures would do weird things like overlap or not be on the correct spot. But I remember all the kids in my street being jelly I had a pc that could play dvds lol

  • @protocetid
    @protocetid ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how stylish the PC is

  • @konsolendoc
    @konsolendoc ปีที่แล้ว

    WTH thats the thing in my Dreams !!!!!

  • @KickrAzz
    @KickrAzz ปีที่แล้ว

    I also have the exact same machine running, mint and original condition ☺️👌

  • @DM01710
    @DM01710 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a very nice find 😎 get some UT GOTY and pod on the go or GTA 1 with glide enabled would be sweet and some duke and quake ..... I have seen that case design before and bottom mounted screws holding side panels on or topside with plastic cover hiding screws seemed to be a thing at one stage 😎 super cool video ........tech tip cut down paint brushes work we'll

  • @LYkOn-001
    @LYkOn-001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ooooooh es mi pc de la infancia! Mataria por conseguir uno ahora

  • @H31MU7
    @H31MU7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    old star trek references will never not get a like from me

  • @lemagreengreen
    @lemagreengreen ปีที่แล้ว

    Well that is interesting, don't remember integrated Voodoo3 either!

  • @Fallen608
    @Fallen608 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would definitely enjoy upgrading the VRAM on that strange mobo if only to satisfy my curiosity