True Level XL 😴 New pad for Haven XL
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- Meet the True Level XL pad for Haven XL and Haven Safari 🌲😴🌲 This pad was designed to support the 30” width of Haven XL so you lay flat from side to side as well as head to toe.
The original Insulated XL work great. It fits perfectly inside the hammock and creates a flat and open sleeping platform. We recommend you keep the original Insulated XL pad fully inflated to hold the hammock open.
But Haven XL is wide… 30” / 60 cm and the original pad may sag or v down the center. This new True Level XL pad is designed to reduce that V. The True Level XL pad is wider in the center and tapered on the edges. But the results are in. The lay is AMAZING 🤩
In addition to the supoort, True Level XL is softer, quieter, slightly lighter, and a lot more insuated. Learn more at haventents.com...
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I literally was searching for a fix on TH-cam for this exact problem with my Haven XL! This is great news! Best piece of gear I own.
Love the consistent development for better sleep!
It’s our mission! 😴
I would love to have a tent like this for two people. So I can go camping with my girlfriend without setting up 2 tents
the pad would have to be like a full, Full size air matress to even have a chance to work, at that point you might as well just put it on the ground.
Dear Derek and @Haven Tents: where's your European site gone to? Best regards from Belgium
lighter, flatter, quiter, softer, warmer.... AWESOME
but why is it still orange? :(((( why no green or brown????
This looks awesome! Stoked to buy one of these later this summer. :)
Great! Looking forward to hearing what you think 🌲😴🌲
when will it be available to buy for EU customers?
Unfortunately, you’re looking at July 😞 sorry!!
july is totally fine!
Looks amazing! Does it work in the safari as well? Best sleep I’ve ever had in a hammock and this can only improve that. Thanks Derek!!
Thank you! Yes, the true level will work perfectly well with your Safari 🤙 Glad you've enjoyed your hang with us.
I love seeing CQI - continuous quality improvement. I also love continuous process improvement. Are there any process improvements or material upgrades to prevent leaks? A system that has an inflatable pad as a structural element needs a reliable inflatable pad.
This pad is coming from a new factory as well. One that is really high-end and does a lot of pads for many of the top companies.
looks great! will it be available in other colors?? i HATE the orange, i want it green, like the tent!
Too complicated at this point! 😂 it’s a lot of work having different pad colors. Sorry!
okay, understandable, but why not have it green by default as the only color, like the tent. who wants it orange???
I had someone take a regular bed sheet, we folded it around the pad when it was inflated, marked it, and sewed it up like a pillow case. No it's comfortable to lay on, easy to pack, and can make it any color. Problem solved!
Washable Pad cases🤔🤓🙋🏻
I would love to try one of these, but I am reluctant. I have a Haventent and have had terrible trouble with the mattress. Have to re-inflate about 4 times a night. Now Haven has sent me a new pad and I haven’t tried it yet, hopefully it will work. But, if I upgrade to the Safari or an XL, is there a guarantee that the true level will not leak? I also have to say that to have to pay an extra 100$ for a mattress that will work seems a bit weird. Haven always advertised as a lay flat Hammock. Now you have to pay more if you want a true level pad.
Damn... I just bought the XL and it arrived today. Hopefully this is on Amazon soon!!
When will the insulated pad cover be available for this pad, would like to order it all in one shot?
hopefully these can hold air better than the original XL pads, im on my second replacement pad but its still in the box from when i got it months ago, the first pad i slept on in the backyard for about a week no issue then it became apparent it was leaking thoughout the night, soapy water found at least 7 pinholes in the welded seams, got a replacement, and i tested it right out of the box with the soapy water and found three of them, the rep that i was working with says that the pad i have now he personally tested for leaks, im hoping its true
What's the weight limit?
It’s listed on the site: 285 lbs / 129 kg but the Safari goes up to 350lb
I just received my new True Level pad! It looks and feels great. The improvement in the seals and gaskets of the inflation "neck" is obvious. You mentioned that compared to the old XL pad, you "more than doubled the amount of insulation." Can you comment on what the difference in R-value might be with the True Level compared to the old one? Also, I noticed that the new pad is 2.5 inches shorter in length. I'm curious about the reason for this change.
I thought the length was the same.
@@troutwhisperer1 Accordiing to the writing on the stuff sack(s) that the pads come in from Haven it says as follows: Haven Insulated XL 30x82.5. On the Haven Insulated True Level XL it shows up as 30x80"
The shorter length makes it fall out corner pockets
Awesome tent. Any plans to distribute to Australia? Please!!!
Any chance we can trade in our current XL pad for a discounted True XL pad?
Existing XL customers can use the code TLUPGRADE to save on an upgrade. We understand!
@@HavenTents I tried this code and it said "TLUPGRADE discount code isn’t available to you right now" :(
Mine should be here Saturday I can't wait
The Haven XL is a good sleep system BUT; mine has a manufacturing defect which has become apparent after half a dozen uses and getting it exchanged (I live in BC) is proving impossible.
Emails and phone calls feeds me into a loop, they are all ignored.
Its funny how when I was ordering the XL and I left the process incomplete foe a few hours, the Haven marketing department were on me like white on rice sending me reminder emails etc.
I must report that their after sales support seems designed to deflect any enquiries into hyperspace.
I guess I'm stuck with this defective item until it completely fails.
When it does I will certainly get another hammock- but not from Haven.
EDIT.
The marketing dept have made contact.
Optimism resumed
Hello. Our customer service team does a great job of ensuring that every customer is taken care of. We're a small team of just 5 people, but we care about every customer's experience with us. If on the rare occassion you receive a defective item, we're more than happy to ship you a new one. Reach out to us at haventents.com/pages/contact, we'll get you taken care of. Thanks.
I just had my second Safari pad fail from bleeding out air along the bladder seams. It's flat within a couple minutes. Both pads lasted about 20-25 nights.
Will this fit the Safari as a replacement?
Is this an improvement to the safari pad not sure if the xl and the safari pad were the same?
is this for sale in the eu yet? i would like to upgrade my safari pad.
POV: You just bought a Mondoking 3D, Roamer and a Topo Luxe looking for a flatter pad for the Safari you purchased last month. I have the worst timing.
My Topo Luxe arrives tomorrow.. 😂
@@stefanmether7716 The good news it's a good fit. I'll probably try this new mat if I get the XL for backpacking.
However, the Mondoking 3D suddenly developed a bubble under my shoulder last night and then instantly became a giant bubble across the top third of the mat. Made a loud ripping side and nearely tipped of out of the hammock. You can see pics of the delamination I'm describing in the Amazon comments for the product. Guess I get to test their lifetime warranty now.
@@trashduck How do you find the topo luxe, im in need of a better pad for my safari, im in the UK and i dont know if i should purchase the thermarest topo or wait until derek sorts the EU site out next month and get the truelevel. I really dont want the taco effect and Ive found that 4 inch pads just dont sit right in the tent and tend not to fill out the bottom correctly if that makes any sense.
@@stefanmether7716 same question to you my friend can you let me know what you think of it honestly in terms of it folding you up like a taco. Cheers
@@adv-nomad Hi, i’ve tried it a coupe of times now and it works perfectly! Its high quality and easy to pack. (I Will proabably try the new haven one also)
Im wondering if the normal will actually be level, thats my only concern before buying one!
Where Can I find the premium option? I cant see it in the website
Went to purchase this immediately in the UK- when can I get one?
they answered in a different reply, around july available for europe
They aren’t in stock.
Do you plan to have bug net replacements? I ripped my by sitting on it and really abusing it and it’s a tiny tear by the zipper but I have ocd and would like to buy another bug net for my haven tent.
Hello sorry to hear about that! We'll get it taken care of for you. Send a message to support@haventents.com!
@@HavenTents your product works well it was an operator error, I really would like to pay for my mistake because it wasn’t your mistake.
I've slept outside in a gather hammock for years now... I sleep flat by sleeping on a diagonal and not stringing my hammock up too tight.
Ya know... I got my double-person hammock for about 1/10 the price you have set for yours.
Economically speaking, I cannot justify the expense especially for the value of what I consider to be a gimmick (the lay-flat aspect that you lean so hard on).😅
It's not a gimmick as it's the best hammock I've ever used. Goes to ground super easy as well.
The con of this setup, and it's a really big one. The pad is a critical component of the hammock. without it sleeping in the thing is nearly impossible. And I've had 2 pads fail, one in the middle of a trip, and recently preparing for a 3 week trip. So extremely unreliable.
I'll use my Warbonnet Blackbird while I try to source a 3rd pad.
@@kenp4464 I can't justify all the extra weight... I want to be able to break down, roll everything up (blanket, gather hammock and bug net) and stuff it in my pack at a moments notice. Not space efficient to do so, but convenient for ease of breakdown and speed. Besides, it can be packed more seriously when you're in a better location. This location usually ends up being a space for making breakfast anyways. I can backpack with this setup, as it's reasonably light.
@deemushroomguy yeah, this kit is not meant for backpacking. I don't even take it motorcycle camping. It has its place though and more comfortable than just about any other type.
@@kenp4464 That's where I'll disagree. Stiff, flat pads in a hammock sounds like someone didn't learn anything about waking up with a jacked up back from sleeping on a shitty mattress before... I mean, your sleeping experience can realistically be compared to crashing on a couch, at that point.
@deemushroomguy Comparing it to sleeping on a couch.. I'm guessing you've never slept in one.
I have about 60 nights in the thing. Sleeping across creeks, tree to side by side roll cage, on the ground. And have gotten the best sleeps ever. Yeah, I'm not doing that with a couch. Lol
I've noticed that my regular pad that came with the hammock keeps loosing air after a several hours and then it's slumped down in the center and very uncomfortable and also I've noticed that the inside of the tent ends up with a lot of condensation in it,,,how can this be fixed ?
Hey, we saw your comment on IG too. We'll get that taken care of for you, send a message to support@haventents.com The majority of people who report a mattress losing pressure is from temperature changes. When it gets cold at night, the air inside the pad will contract. Customer service will help determine if that is the case or if you have another issue. We can also help you upgrade to the true level at a discount to ensure the flattest lay possible! 🤙
Will you make one to fit the standard Haven?
We have a new premium pad for the standard Haven tent too!
Yes, we have a premium pad for the standard Haven tent. It’s available now.
Stoked.
Great!
The other pad doesn't look fully inflated ☹️
I can think of is Rick and Morty
😂 you were the first one to get the reference!
@@HavenTents thats awesome haha🤣
@@HavenTentsare you guys hiring for product testers by chance?