Thanks for hanging in there with me during this move. Now that I finished tuning my piano (and made 3 lessons of it), we get back to help you learn jazz. Just in time for Valentine's day. ❤ PS: If you enjoy this type of jazz "training" ,and wish to learn more about jazz, then I invite you to join me Saturday mornings at 11:00 am EST right here on TH-cam for FREE MasterClass and hang with other jazz musicians from around the globe. Just hit the 🔔 to be notified. Or go here now to view previous MasterClasses www.youtube.com/@Jazzmentl/streams
@@je5tran well piano tuning is not my trade.. I'm a jazz piano player. But it has saved me thousands of dollars over the years just to learn it. I have to keep my piano tuned for the live streams and for the jazz tutorial videos I do. Piano players don't want to hear an out of tune piano ( if you know what I mean). I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Do you find that after tuning a whole section to the piano meter where the rectangles are as still as possible and the needle is pretty much at 0, the piano is flat after fixing up the unisons?
Brilliant! Thank you so much! My boyfriend bought me a piano tuning kit because I live in the forest in Ontario...no piano tuners here! I think I did ok, but I'll keep tuning to try to get as close to 0 as possible. Very easy to follow you so thanks again for that. Now I'm going to play! : )
Hello, to tune a note, once you tune a string, isn’t it just possible to mute it and immediately after tune the second string alone with the app, then they are both in unisson? Could this work? Well i mean i’m not sure to be able by ear to find the unisson. Thank you!!
Doing it that way, each string will be tuned slightly imperfect in slightly different ways, which could prevent perfect unison. Doing it by ear is the best way to do it because you can listen for the beats (sound of dissonance) to stop. It also helps to know what phase difference sounds like, because as you get close, it'll be more like a constant phase shift than dissonance. I realize this isn't much help if your ear isn't trained, but if you're able, it's worth learning.
I'm going to be tuning an Archer upright grand piano, it was last tuned on January 12, 1958, do you think after a couple of tunings it will hold its tune?
ha…i was struggling with the last 3-4 notes and i was wondering how to get it by ear. i can hear something is flat or sharp, but after i’ve altered it slightly my ear poops out and feels lost. i have used precision strobe tuner as my ap, but i’ll try your rec. i like the visual of the flat and sharp curve overlay with the piano, and it’s good to know it’ll do the low notes. i was quickly taught how to tune with a similar analogue tuner, but i was told to turn it off for the higher and lower and do it by ear. i’ve been a by ear purist before only tuning A440, but those very highest and lowest notes are when my ear and patience is wearing thin.
I think the recommendation to turn off the tuner is to account for human perception shifting in the upper and lower registers. Getting it perfectly in tune mathematically, can sound out of tune, perceptually. Also with the lowest notes, listening to the note itself is almost useless; you have to listen to the beats/phase difference. An easy way to do that is to listen to the resonance as the reference string and being-tuned string ring out. If the resonance pulsates, it's out. If it's constant, you're good.
Please can you show a complete tuning from starting to finalised tuning incl sound of octaves before and after tuning ? Now we only hear single keys...
I try to get all strings close to 0. My IBACH is in amazing condition and I have a particular sound I like to hear. And since I'm recording every single day for TH-cam or for my next albums, I do touch ups at the first sign of anything noticeable (which I often can see/hear in post-editing as well).
WILL THERE SOMETIME BE A STRINGTENSION METER BUILT INTO THE TUNING HAMMER SO AS TO AVOID THE BREAKING OF STRINGS. SOMETHING LIKE THE TORQUE WRENCH USED BY AUTOMOTIVE MECHANICS. HI TUNING GREAT TOOL FOR GUYS LIKE US ALWAYS-IN-PERFECT-TUNE-FREAKS. WHICH IS A TERRIBLE SYNDROME.
I have decided to try to tune up the current outside public piano in my town. This has helped a lot. I will be dealing with rusty strings, so I will back them off a tad before tuning up. It is my understanding this is preferable because it first breaks the minor rust weld, if any, perhaps lessening a chance of breaking a string. Currently, the piano is horribly out of tune. I like to play tunes like Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, Bemsha Swing, 'Round Midnight, Blue Bossa, Garota do Ipanema, Misty and more. I have my own jazz/blues things I have expanded on over the decades, too. None of that sounds very good now on the outside piano, so I will get to fixin' it shortly, if the creek don't rise.
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Thanks for hanging in there with me during this move. Now that I finished tuning my piano (and made 3 lessons of it), we get back to help you learn jazz. Just in time for Valentine's day. ❤ PS: If you enjoy this type of jazz "training" ,and wish to learn more about jazz, then I invite you to join me Saturday mornings at 11:00 am EST right here on TH-cam for FREE MasterClass and hang with other jazz musicians from around the globe. Just hit the 🔔 to be notified. Or go here now to view previous MasterClasses www.youtube.com/@Jazzmentl/streams
Thank you! Best piano tuning video have viewed thus far.
@@je5tran well piano tuning is not my trade.. I'm a jazz piano player. But it has saved me thousands of dollars over the years just to learn it. I have to keep my piano tuned for the live streams and for the jazz tutorial videos I do. Piano players don't want to hear an out of tune piano ( if you know what I mean). I'm glad you enjoyed it.
The wavering of strings that are not unison is called 'beats' in acoustics
Do you find that after tuning a whole section to the piano meter where the rectangles are as still as possible and the needle is pretty much at 0, the piano is flat after fixing up the unisons?
Brilliant! Thank you so much! My boyfriend bought me a piano tuning kit because I live in the forest in Ontario...no piano tuners here! I think I did ok, but I'll keep tuning to try to get as close to 0 as possible. Very easy to follow you so thanks again for that. Now I'm going to play! : )
I'm born and raised in Ontario. Are you in Sudbury?
Hi if it’s 10 cents flat , I should turn to the right ? Thanks
Hello, to tune a note, once you tune a string, isn’t it just possible to mute it and immediately after tune the second string alone with the app, then they are both in unisson? Could this work? Well i mean i’m not sure to be able by ear to find the unisson. Thank you!!
Doing it that way, each string will be tuned slightly imperfect in slightly different ways, which could prevent perfect unison. Doing it by ear is the best way to do it because you can listen for the beats (sound of dissonance) to stop. It also helps to know what phase difference sounds like, because as you get close, it'll be more like a constant phase shift than dissonance. I realize this isn't much help if your ear isn't trained, but if you're able, it's worth learning.
I love the way the app “hears” those low notes!
I'm going to be tuning an Archer upright grand piano, it was last tuned on January 12, 1958, do you think after a couple of tunings it will hold its tune?
@@Joyfulkeysinstrumental-lu5ri yikes 😬. I'd call a pro if the piano has been neglected, it may need more love. Good luck 👍
good job
@@henrykswitala872 Thanks Henry 🙂
ha…i was struggling with the last 3-4 notes and i was wondering how to get it by ear. i can hear something is flat or sharp, but after i’ve altered it slightly my ear poops out and feels lost.
i have used precision strobe tuner as my ap, but i’ll try your rec. i like the visual of the flat and sharp curve overlay with the piano, and it’s good to know it’ll do the low notes.
i was quickly taught how to tune with a similar analogue tuner, but i was told to turn it off for the higher and lower and do it by ear.
i’ve been a by ear purist before only tuning A440, but those very highest and lowest notes are when my ear and patience is wearing thin.
I think the recommendation to turn off the tuner is to account for human perception shifting in the upper and lower registers. Getting it perfectly in tune mathematically, can sound out of tune, perceptually. Also with the lowest notes, listening to the note itself is almost useless; you have to listen to the beats/phase difference. An easy way to do that is to listen to the resonance as the reference string and being-tuned string ring out. If the resonance pulsates, it's out. If it's constant, you're good.
Please can you show a complete tuning from starting to finalised tuning incl sound of octaves before and after tuning ? Now we only hear single keys...
Hmmm...there are great piano technicians offering full courses on TH-cam that are better qualified than me. Check out @pianodoctor
You muted every string in the bi chords, gonna make it kind of difficult to tune those
Hi if the piano meter shows + 10, you tighten the pin and screw to the right? To try and bring it to 0? Thank u
Flat? Tune clockwise. Sharp? +10 for example, tune counter clockwise.
@@Jazzmentl thank u
When you tune lower strings, do you tune close to 0, or -5to -10 cents lower as suggested in the curve?
I try to get all strings close to 0. My IBACH is in amazing condition and I have a particular sound I like to hear. And since I'm recording every single day for TH-cam or for my next albums, I do touch ups at the first sign of anything noticeable (which I often can see/hear in post-editing as well).
WILL THERE SOMETIME BE A STRINGTENSION METER BUILT INTO THE TUNING HAMMER SO AS TO AVOID THE BREAKING OF STRINGS. SOMETHING LIKE THE TORQUE WRENCH USED BY AUTOMOTIVE MECHANICS. HI TUNING GREAT TOOL FOR GUYS LIKE US ALWAYS-IN-PERFECT-TUNE-FREAKS. WHICH IS A TERRIBLE SYNDROME.
😁 great invention Hilary!!!! You should build a prototype and get a patent on it asap!
I have decided to try to tune up the current outside public piano in my town. This has helped a lot. I will be dealing with rusty strings, so I will back them off a tad before tuning up. It is my understanding this is preferable because it first breaks the minor rust weld, if any, perhaps lessening a chance of breaking a string. Currently, the piano is horribly out of tune. I like to play tunes like Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, Bemsha Swing, 'Round Midnight, Blue Bossa, Garota do Ipanema, Misty and more. I have my own jazz/blues things I have expanded on over the decades, too. None of that sounds very good now on the outside piano, so I will get to fixin' it shortly, if the creek don't rise.
Ohhhh. That one is out of my league. It sounds like it needs a piano doctor 😬 Good luck with it!!!