i always love when companies see a meme and then think they can "ride the wave" but they don't realize that the second they acknowledge the meme it becomes lame and everyone forgets about it.
Yeah, the reason it became a meme in the first place is because it was a funny *coincidence.* Doing the same shit but on purpose automatically strips it off any comedic value, no matter how good of a portmanteau you can make from it.
It's like they don't get that this is a lightning in a bottle moment, you cannot replicate this without it being blatantly obvious as to what you're doing.
After the success of Barbie, Mattel has already announced their own “cinematic universe” announcing 16 MOVIES: 🙄 Masters of the Universe, Hot Wheels, Matchbox, Barney, Polly Pocket, Rock ‘Em Sock ‘Em Robots, Thomas the Tank Engine, Uno, Magic 8 Ball, American Girl, Wishbone, View-Master, Chatty Cathy & Betsy Wetsy, Big Jim, & Major Matt Mason. 😂🤣
What's really funny to me is that Saw X was originally going to release on the same day as the FNAF movie, which unironically would've been a WAY better barbenheimer-esque marketing stunt in my opinion
I can't help but feel like those "18yr olds in suits" _ARE_ the exact target audience. The kids that swarmed Minions. A gorefest being marketed alongside a kid's movie? Just the right amount of edge to catch fire with the edge lords.
It really is nice to have another “event” that isn’t just superheroes or a meme flick. Not saying every other movie was unimportant or stuff but you know, this is HUGE. I appreciate how easy it is to find media I want these days, but I think a lot was lost with the death of monoculture. Some bad stuff thankfully but also a lot of good stuff was lost. It gives randos something to discuss and has a unified feeling to it.
I despise how corporations suck the fun out of every meme. Barbenheimer was such a cool and unifying hype bubble but I just know we’re going to get so many lame attempts to replicate it.
I mean yeah, but that's true of anything. I don't think it sours the experience of this, Barbenheimer will always still be the one big event that audiences themselves planned rather than corporations
Like seriously with barbie it makes sense considering it's a film that can be seen by both children and adults alike but paw patrol isn't something most adults would want to see alone and saw isn't that popular of a franchise to get much hype from the public so this pairing seriously annoys me.
i personally love it. its so much fun to watch corporate meme campaigns crash and burn. what i hate is when their meme attempts actually work. people will see saw patrol memes and ironically pretend to be hyped for it, as if turning it into an ironic meme isnt exactly what the corporations want.
@Shrikusriram1 no shot. The extent to which they did anything was greta and margot posting pics holding oppenheimer tickets and cillian saying "yeah I'm gonna see barbie"
@@troyareyes That might be the extent that YOU observed. @Shrikusriram1 is correct tho, there was plenty of time for the actors to lean into it and lean into it they did. Margot Robbie and Cillian Murphy aren't saddled with meme-killing cringe like some actors are. They're both incredibly charismatic and their Barbenheimer interviews and social media presence helped boost the meme if anything.
Barbie had a massive press run are u crazy, I felt bad for how much Margo had to smile for all that promotion, she definitely leaned into it at some point I think
They have totally leaned into it tho, Cillian Murphy said in an interview he was going to watch Barbie and was photographed in front of a Barbie promotional poster, Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig did the same with Oppenheimer, Ryan Gosling quoted Cillian Murphy out of context and openly discussed Barbieheimer with Margot Robbie...
Whats annoying about paramount trying to force saw patrol is that they miss the point that Barbie and oppenheimer have a surprisingly overlapping audience. It wasn't just people noticing that these two drastically different movies were coming out the same day but people realising that they wanted to see both.
I really think Ryan gosling is underappreciated is a comedic talent. He was hysterical in "the nice guys", which is part of the reason it's one of my favorite comedies.
I agree!! I was shocked the first time I saw him in an interview and he was hilarious! He has that RBF that made me originally think he was a bit of a blockhead, but he's a lot like Steve Carrell with his ability to keep a straight face and dry humour no matter how ridiculous the conversation gets. His comedic timing is surprisingly on point and I'd love to see him in more comedies. Adum's right, he completely stole the show from Barbie and I loved it!
"He fears the Nazis, builds a bomb, then WAM! Full penetration! Bomb, penetration, bomb, penetration, bomb, penetration, and this goes on and on for about 3 hours, until the movie just sort of ends."
I love how Barbie and Oppenheimer are the most anticipated movies of a summer with new Spider-Man, Indiana Jones, Mission Impossible, and Transformers movies. This meme is unironically saving the cinema experience
@@quantumblauthor7300maybe not quickly but I'm hoping this year of movies will knock a little bit of sense into studio execs that they need to leave their damn creatives alone.
And then there’s Killers of the Flower Moon in October along with Napoleon in November. Are they gonna be good? I don’t know. But both have creative talent behind them that I’m willing to go in blind opening night.
@@GayIncel It won't. The decision of the suits is based entirely around money, not respectability or quality. Unless "creatives" band together, unionize and vote for the right people while sabotaging the movie industry as a whole, nothing will change. People keep thinking that quality will eventually shine through and win the day, just like how people think "justice" or "truth" wins in the end. This is brainwashed bullshit. You either fight for what you want or you give the snakes at the top exactly what they want, and what they want is money and power.
If you know the meaning, history, and controversy surrounding Matchbox Twenty's "Push", its use in the film - right as the barbies are actively exploiting the Kens' insecurities in order to put them back in their place - is nothing short of brilliant.
@@Impiedoothe song was heavily criticized when originally released for seemingly being about how men treat women in a toxic way, when the song is actually about how a WOMAN treats a man in a toxic way The use in the movie is that all the Kens sing it literally, so it makes it seem like the Kens are misogynistic, when in reality the song is a double entendre. They all sing the song while the Barbies plot to use their feminine wiles to manipulate the men to free the women from their influence after Ken corrupts everyone with the concept of patriarchy, which is what the song originally was commentary on (as an isolated case, the song doesn’t declare are women are like that)
@@Impiedoo haven't watched barbie or listened to push, but the rumor is the song was criticized for being "misogynistic" / abuse - EXCEPT it was actually done by the women towards the men ( ever read something and then at the end, the author write - now reverse the gender ?) . you can read the wiki about the song. so now a song about women abusing men are being played at a scene where the barbies are abusing / exploiting kens. so it kind of brilliant, except for people who missed the point - which I'm not quite sure where Greta is.
I almost laughed out loud when he was in bed with that girl, she randomly picked out a book and just so happen to open it on THE LINE, and had him quote it while "exploding" in her. JUST LIKE THE BOOOMB. Seemed like something that would be in a parody movie.
Yeah that part was really goofy. Not sure what the intention was there - kind of lessened the impact of when he says it later on in the film. It almost reminds me of that awful new Pinocchio movie where they keep on explaining why he has the name "Pine-ochhio" (because he's made of pine hur dur). Like I don't think anyone was dying to know where he got the phrase from, especially in the middle of a sex scene.
My favourite moment in Barbenheimmer is when Albert Einstein sacrifices himself to fight Ken and give time for Oppenheimer and Barbie to disable his stolen atom bomb that he planned to drop on Washington DC. Also, the reference to Doctor Strangelove with Barbie riding the nuke in the cowgirl outfit was pretty nice.
Celebrity cameos? They're actors dude. If you have a lot of characters in a movie, you're gonna have a lot of actors, and good actors are more often than not celebrities.
@@Triplicata It was a joke... Some of those famous actors pop up for one short scene (like Gary Oldman, Casey Affleck, James Remar), so yeah, those felt like cameos.
I wish they did that. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the studios decided to try for Barbenheimer 2. I don't foresee Nolan or Gerwig agreeing but one can dream.
@@horace6851 Nolan directs a 3.5 hour movie about Ken going out to discover meaning in his life, several existential crises, confusing explorations of the human identity, and beautiful, well-designed extended shots of Ken crying with synth loudly playing over the scene ensue. Greta Gerwig directs a quirky 2 hour film about Robert and Kitty's retirement on a sailboat in the Caribbean, laced with feminist and/or communist commentary to fit the theme.
Hard disagree that you can trim 90 or even 60 minutes off of Oppenheimer. I think if you really triaged you could cut it down 30 minutes and still have the artistic vision intact. It's a decades-spanning biopic that needs an extremely slow burn for the cumulative moment of the bomb drop. You can't do the NM testing scene an hour into a movie and get the same emotional impact. Also, the reason they show you similar dynamics ie Oppenheimer's consistent failure to see those who would take advantage of him is, in itself, an artistic statement, turning Oppenheimer into a tragic hero--a role the movie clearly places him in with other creative choices it makes throughout the runtime!
I agree. At no point did I feel it was too long for what it was trying to cover. It was a very engaging and intelligent movie. I thought that's what we wanted more of from the movie industry these days.
I feel like the way the scenes were edited didn't feel repetitive - they were applying new contexts to moments in his life, from the personal, romantic, logistical, political, and legacy perspectives. The movie doesn't move in a straight line and so calling back to previous scenes doesn't feel repetitive to me.
I think the movie needed all the time. However if anything MAYBE 30 minutes can be trimmed down, 60 and 90 minutes less would just not be a movie that’s as good as we got.
@@theebonymawyeah I don’t think we’re supposed to look at him as a hero, but not really as a bad person either, just someone who was given an impossible task
I find it odd how the mentality around noise and phones in theaters has changed so much in the past 4-5 years. I remember going to the theater half a dozen years ago and strangers would say something if you checked your phone and had the brightness distract them or if you did much more than an occasional whisper. If a kid cried during a movie, their parents dragged them out of there in a few seconds. It was so taboo to make noise or even emit light during a movie. Sure, most people are respectful enough to not talk at full volume or something like that, but every other time I go to the theater, there's someone texting with their phone unsilenced and brightness cranked up, or whispering for half the movie, or some kid who probably is too young to be watching the film bawling their eyes out for 40 minutes.
People bringing children into random movies has seemingly gotten way worse. A mother brought like 3 of her 8 year olds into Dead Reckoning and, of course, they got bored. Yeah, I get it, you have children and you probably don't get out much. But just hire a babysitter for a couple hours.
@@tamatebako_yt I watched both in a packed theatre and didn't have any of these issues. For some reason people love to extrapolate out their one-time personal events into a general trend
Weirdly, despite there being more kids there, I saw less of this at my Barbie screening than my Oppenheimer one. The old woman who sat next to me at Oppenheimer kept taking her phone out and scrolling Facebook-I kept telling her to stop, and she was so mad by the end. There was also an old man a few rows ahead (also at Oppenheimer) whose phone was so bright, it was like a fucking beacon. Meanwhile only one (young) person had their phone out at Barbie, and her friend quickly got her to turn it off.
I made the mistake of seeing Oppenheimer then Barbie. That sht will leave you EXHAUSTED. 5 hours in a movie theater. It's FUN and a great way to beat the heat but not doing it again. WATCH BARBIE FIRST.
It was 100% worth it. It's very fun, I saw Oppenheimer first, had an hour and a half in between to relax with my friend and then we saw barbie. Its a great experience I highly recommend
YMS talking about being excited for SAW is the funniest thing ever once you've watched the reviews of the series in the past. Imagine if they gloss over the 2017 Jigsaw film and jump right back into the convoluted bloated nightmare plot
I went and watched the whole saw series bc of adums reviews 😂 so now I too am excited for Saw X, I am very excited to see which good guys will be back as henchmen, where in the timeline it'll be set... I'll definitely be seeing this one alone in theatres but I won't miss it lol
The fact that Oppenheimer had Florence Pugh naked during the 'Destroyer of worlds' scene had me in stitches. The most famous thing people know about this guy and Nolan decided we needed to see boobs to hold peoples attention.
I love hearing about Adum's experience with people showing up to Barbie in pink and for some reason Spider Man was there twice. Something about that warms my heart and I don't know why.
Loved the deconstruction of the “Barbenheimer” meme at the beginning, I saw people posting Saw Patrol on Reddit like “DUDE ITS JUST LIKE BARBENHEIMER”, and I just felt defeated seeing their lame marketing work on someone.
Don’t feel defeated. Pity then and the companies doing this. This parhetic behaviour doesn’t take away from Barbenheimer. They will have their comeuppance...
Reddit died a couple months ago. Only the dregs are left at this point. (Just like what's left of Twitter.) A lot of the active profiles are astroturfers and bots now.
I'm glad that this happened to be honest. You saw people get out of their comfort zones and experiment and if anything this past weekend has told me that we need more films like this. Movies should be an EVENT should be FUN, should make us THINK, should get us GOING. It shouldn't ever feel exhausting to talk about. But lately, because of the political climate we're in, it IS exhausting to talk about movies. You can't share a damn opinion anymore without everyone clamoring about how WOKE you are or how you're a sell out, or you're just catering to sheep. It. SUCKS. And Barbenheimer reinvigorated my love of talking about movies. So I'm grateful to these films for that.
go off queen!!!! i saw oppenheimer opening night and the audience was v respectful. maybe because they were too sleepy to kick the back of my seat as is the norm for well attended premieres
I feel like politics have become the new watercooler talk with monoculture dying off and I hate that! Can’t leave the house without overhearing people talk about politics from other countries :/ (I’m in Australia, it’s never about politics here unless it’s about taxes or immigration. Lol) I just have to tell people no, I won’t discuss politics, it feels destructive to me and makes my mood significantly worse.
I honestly think even the people who were on their phones the whole time had the right idea - rather, they're taking those first baby steps either back into, or for the first time, public. They very well may have had a problem, social media addiction is real and got worse during the quarantine, but they decided that, instead of staying home and scrolling endlessly on their phone, they were going to go out with friends. Did they still end up scrolling on their phones? Yes, but this event got them motivated to go out and exist in public. It's not a perfect illustration of shedding your addiction, but it's a really hopeful first step. I've become pretty disillusioned with movies in general lately, I stopped going to the theater regularly in late 2017. I don't see Barbenheimer as an immediate, industry-wide change, but, like going out in public and scrolling on your phone, it's a good first step to making movie releases feel like an event worth attending again. I'm gonna allow myself to be hopeful that, maybe years from now, I'll be going into theaters regularly again and actually enjoying myself.
The star-studded cast aside, as a physicist, Oppenheimer felt like an Avengers movie but with early/mid 20th century physicists. If you’re in the know, it’s hard not to fan boy over characters that appear for a single scene.
FR like so many scientists, important people that shaped the way we do things today, like if you paid at least a little attention in chemistry, physics and mathematics, you can appreciate how insane the Manhattan project was when it came to the people involved.
Somehow I felt much more engaged during my second watch of Oppenheimer. The performances and quick pace made the 3 hours fly by, also one of my favorite Nolan endings
I agree about the editing in Oppenheimer. At first, I thought they were using the trailer-esque edits to speed through his early life/background and get us to the Manhattan Project & aftermath...but then it just kept going in that style for 3 hours. I found myself wishing we could linger longer in one scene and see it play out in full, that only really happened for the bomb test and even that felt too brief.
Yeah, the bits with the strings and the insanely loud rumbling that kept popping up periodically throughout the film felt very trailer-y. I think Nolan was going for some abstract arthouse vibe, but it didn't really end up coming across that way. Just felt distracting after the first time
I really do love that the whole Barbenheimer trend happened. It's just really fun to see the Internet come together for this and I think the fact that the two movies in question are, at the very least, good is really heartwarming, at least for me.
I really love big theatrical events like this that are 100% audience-ran. No corporate pandering involved, just people all agreeing to have a good time in their own chosen ways. It's like when A Quiet Place came out and all the theaters were intentionally dead silent (still kinda bummed I didn't see that when it came out)
@@TheStanishStudiosOh 100%, I know it's a cliche at this point to bring this up, but given how divided things are now, it was nice to completely ignore stupid culture war discourse and just have a good time with people
Especially since Barbenheimer’s demographics were both geared towards adult people and could be enjoyed by most people, while Saw is niche and Paw Patrol is literally for small children
@@skunkjo3195I think that's because the subtle part is subtle and the obvious part is obvious (fucking genius take here I know) what I mean is, female commentary is a bit on the nose and the male commentary is a bit more subtle?..
@@nicknayl0rreading my classmates work in my high school English class was depressing, but my college english class was soul crushing when I saw how the students could barely glean anything off the material, adults in their 20's bumbling like 7th graders.
The lack of subtly is what made it popular among women, they want to be taken seriously but then the most milquetoast, hit you over the head messaging of the movie gets them to clap like seals because the Daddy Issues Incarnate agree with The Message (TM). No problem with exploring the subjects of matriarchy vs patriarchy, various waves of feminism, etc, just do it in a clever, thought-provoking way
@@Hiphop618 well I won't say it was top notch clever however I must admit even when a show is clever, if the audience is not on the same wave...you will get the same mindless response
I think Oppenheimer using big actors in small roles was kinda smart, because it helps keep the audience interested, which was needed in a movie as long and fast paced to prevent me from losing track on who was who lol
Keeping track of who's who's was SO much easier with all recognizable faces, I'm honestly so bad at that shit and I wsd surprisingly not lost or confused during this film
i get using it to help people remember characters, but in terms of keeping people interested just randomly throwing big celebrities on screen is like the laziest way to do that ever lmao
@@twod0ves If you're this devoted to making a fast-paced movie that still crams in almost every person relevant to the real story, then I think it's a smart move.
Oppenheimer really benefited from a 2nd viewing for me. You might not agree, but i was able to see so much more into the film and appreciate its scope and journey. I agree it's pretty long but I just feel like you have to stay with it and it'll reward you. Repetitive? Only a little, I'd think? It's planting a lot of seeds and setting a lot of wheels in motion for a deep character payoff. I dunno, i might be biased but it's hard for me not to see this as a master at his craft, employing so many simple yet tasteful film techniques and film language to create an immersive, gripping, historical insight into this twisted character and story.
I honestly felt the opposite way in terms of runtime for Oppenheimer. I felt the 3 hours felt like 2 hours personally and I loved the film overall. Interesting to hear Adum say it was too long and boring but then again I was also interested in the history of Oppenheimer while he wasn’t so fair enough
I was going a bit mad in Oppenhiemer, because prior to the bomb scene I could see somebody playing games on their phone in the front row. Just one very distracting light poking through all the head rests. All they wanted from the movie was an explosion!
something i loved about openheimer was that horrible rumbling noise that played before the test bomb was detonated. it was a really, really cool way to set tension and the tone, totally immersed me.
For me it detracted, I couldn't refer back to the characters in film because I only knew the actor. Immersion breaking to say josh peck pushed the bomb cuz I have no idea who he was. Especially when they name drop character who are integral to the plot, like so and so was the spy? I remembered the face but the name meant nothing
I was having trouble articulating why Oppenheimer felt so showy when it starts, and the description of it feeling like a trailer is so spot on! I think of other Nolan movies where the opening of the movie is meticulously arranged to throw you into the deep end of something, usually anchored by a character defining experience supported by strong sound and visuals, and here it was being thrown headfirst into a crosscutting montage that didn't really say much about any one thing, and did more to take me out of the movie than pull me in. Fortunately I eventually could settle in and enjoy large swaths of the movie quite a bit, but the opening felt like a missed opportunity.
There’s genuine commentary about the Barbie brand that goes beyond feminism 101, how a brand targeting women that simply imagines a world without patriarchy could be empowering and subversive, but with the passage of time, it’s become disempowering because it has failed to confront it and has even been appropriated by it. And that’s just the main message of the film. There’s so much detail and nuance about what the film is saying that for the first time in a long time, I felt the need to just think about for a while to truly get all of its meaning.
Spoilers for barbie I really like the movie but I think the message of the movie has been ruined for me just by the internet and social justice being popular alone. Its not at all the fault of the movie but I've been inundated with feminism talks from all angles of the discussion, that the message didn't do anything for me. Especially as a woman. I've been told routinely by my mom, cousins, youtube channels, dove soap that I need to confront the patriarchy. I feel like the movie would have hit harder in 2005 or something but sadly i was 4 then so... I will say though that I did like the part where the mom character told barbie that things could suck for women but that was life in general and that you learn to make the most of it and do what you can, regardless. That's something I rarely hear in this sea of playing the blame game, so I appreciated that. Learning to take control of your own life because you owe yourself that much, is what more people need to hear I think. Men and especially women.
the piano piece in that scene was a version of "Kitty Comes to Testify", a track that plays during her defense of Oppenheimer during his security clearance hearing. It's a track that plays when the two of them are united against hardship and it fits the scene excellently without being overbearing.
I always thought that Christopher Nolan movies feel like "theatrical trailers" and most of the issues you pointed out are issues that I have with most of his movies (in terms of editing)
i just saw barbie the other day in a super small local theater, the only one on its island. they only show one thing at a time/ per week so the whole place was dressed to the nine's in balloons, ribbons, fuzzy and glittery shit. almost everyone had an outfit for it, too. really one of the greatest theater experiences ive had even if i couldnt hear over all the cheering and laughter sometimes
I did actually feel bad for the parents who brought their kids to Barbie when I saw it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought it was like those god awful direct to video Barbie movies that you put on to just entertain your kids for an hour, then half an hour in realized it was NOT that at all. I mean, you’d have to be kinda dim or oblivious to think that, but I can feel bad for dim and/or oblivious people.
When I was about 10 (almost 11) or so, I went to see *The Dark Knight* at the cinema with my parents. I remember there being a lot of moms with their kids, a lot even younger than me; I'd seen Batman Begins so I knew (more or less) what I was in for, but I guess they hadn't. I guess they expected a campy film "for the whole family" like the Schumacher ones, they were pretty shocked at the violence of the film, during the interval.
Bruh so weird how people can have the exact opposite takes. If anything, I feel like Oppenheimer was a little rushed (especially the first hour). That shit flew by in what felt like 10 minutes, never did I get the feeling of the movie dragging. And I thought Barbie was absolute dogshit lmao
Oppenheimer was very good and never was I bored in the 3 hour run-time. Sure the bomb assembling section of the movie was the most interesting and engaging part (as it should be). The court hearing afterwards was also really interesting and felt nice as you can see how the relationships Oppenheimer made with these people played out. Only thing I didn't like was the sex scenes ngl. Just felt off.
sex “scenes”, plural? we had one sex scene and then a post coital scene of two people sitting naked and vulnerable but also distant and apart on chairs opposite each other. it was all very tasteful and artistic
@@neonbarnowl i wouldn’t call that a sex scene. i’d call that “a visual metaphor for being disgusted and betrayed by your husband who is currently having his - and thus your - personal life raked over for the record by a kangaroo court of men”. just because there is sex *in* a scene doesn’t make it a sex scene
glad you mentioned the editing choices in Oppenheimer, particularly the way dialogue was edited together, because I've seen nobody else mention it. I liked the film a good bit overall, but I couldn't get over how fast paced the dialogue was. It gave a very unnatural vibe to a lot of the conversations, as there was never room to breath between lines and everyone felt like they were firing off clever one liners, which really took me out of it. One of my favorite scenes is right before they test the bomb, and Oppenheimer and Damon's character are quietly sitting in a room contemplating on what they're about to do. The editing in this scene is way slower paced, and thus the conversation carries a lot more weight and feels more genuine.
I felt that was kind of the point though. Being so swept up in the moment, naive, no time to stop and think about what the work you're doing is leading to and whether or not you *should* be doing it. I agree to an extent about the quippy dialogue at times, but I felt the pace of the dialogue was there to keep you in the same headspace of rapid change, progress.
Remember the scene where they're debating which cities to drop bombs on, and one of the guys vetos Kyoto? That was literally the first scene in the movie where Nolan just let the onscreen action speak for itself, without needing a bombastic musical score to make his point. I couldn't believe we were this far into the movie to get a scene without overbearing music.
@@stevedomique9278 I hadn't thought of this as being intentional as a reflection of the getting swept up in the moment. I picked up on the strange editing without noticing that it was the cuts during dialogue in particular that I was picking up on. While if intentional, this is a decision with good thought behind it, I think it still took away from my enjoyment of the movie. Again, it feels like a film to be appreciated, not enjoyed. The cuts made it feel less like a movie and more like a collection of scenes. To me, at least. They needed to breathe in order to feel like a whole.
@@ryanguy9000 Absolutely fair, and it could easily be me reading way too much into things haha. The people I went to see it with felt the exact same about all the cuts so you're not alone for sure!
I'm honesty surprised that Adum didn’t go harder on Barbie. It's a good movie but personally, I think it's way more flawed than his review made out. I laughed at a few scenes but I think it's a bit too preachy and the pacing was uneven. I enjoyed Oppenheimer much more even though I'm not a big Christopher Nolan fan.
I agree but he probably has to talk about Barbie carefully since it has a bigger message than some random feminist movie. There were some things I wanted him to trash on but I get that he probably can’t
I disagree with Critical Drinker pretty frequently but I especially don't understand how he interpreted Barbie the way he did. He claims it was an attack on motherhood but America Ferrera's character is a mother who wants to get closer to her daughter? I guess the movie acknowledges being a mom is hard? Does that count as "attacking" motherhood?
@@TheChiefOrg13he also accuses it of ripping off 2001, when it’s obviously an homage/parody. The worst part is when he’s like “the audience doesn’t realise that the 2001 reference unintentionally makes the point that toys grow obsolete”. Yes it does you doofus, that’s why it’s in the movie. TCD isn’t a reviewer, he’s a grifter who accepts conservative money to do propaganda for the right wing. His media literacy is worse than even your average conservative
Thought the same thing about the Oppenheimer score. I walked out going “wow another amazing Hans zimmer score, sounds a lot like the one from inception.” Only later realized it wasn’t him lol
Interesting perspective. For me I wasn’t bored once during Oppenheimer. Was locked in from beginning to end and didn’t feel the length. But I can understand how if you’re not into history that you can easily get lost and not care
That's such a lame argument I'm seeing, that if you "aren't into history" it explains why you're bored. I was bored because the editing was utterly awful, the script sucked, and the music was blasting the whole time - basic fundamentals of filmmaking failed. Not because I'm not peeing my pants that JFK made an appearance.
@@fakenamerealchungus9851 I’m sorry you have the attention span of a 2 year old. But if you’re into history, you will not be bored. The editing is challenging but you can piece together the sequence of events if you have a functioning brain
@@fakenamerealchungus9851 agree, films about historical events ought to MAKE the content interesting, not the other way around. if oppenheimer was about literally anything else it'd be such a stinker. feels the same to me as disney milking star wars content for fanboys who will watch no matter what - except since it's about smart intellectual alpha science men it's suddenly a "masterwork". and likewise just because i think barbie was the objectively better movie doesn't mean i'm a tiktok zoomer lmao (if anything, oppenheimer was edited like a compilation of youtube shorts)
For Oppenheimer I felt the snappy editing style was to help get across they were in an arms race, and that time is of the essence. Maybe when I rewatch in imax I'll feel differently. My favorite detail from the movie was that the speech he gives and is feeling the guilt of his actions was LOUDER than the scene where a literal atomic bomb goes off.
But there was no arms race in the beginning of the film and this editing was used throughout the film for no apparent reason. It's basically the first thing you experience while watching the film and it's very off-putting.
@@srsjackson it was if to show the lead up to the project and how he tied onto it. I thought it was fine due to the fact there was many characters to introduce. if he'd not done it that way it would have to have been 4 hours. basically a cut had to be made somewhere.
wow! i was honestly glued to the screen for the entire 3 hours of oppenheimer. I found it really engaging all the way through, personally. Maybe it’s just because i’m a history buff. Nonetheless, i respect your opinion YMS!
The thing that puzzles me is how he'll do a review of a movie where he'll have nothing but positive things to say about it but then he'll give it a 6 or a 7 when it sounds like it's going to at least be an 8 lol.
@@luigiwiiUU I never said it did lol. Just the way he talks about movies sometimes it sounds like it's going to get a much higher rating because of how little negative things he has to say about it. I know we all have different metrics as far as our own personal rankings go, but when I hear someone be so positive about a movie and have very little to say that's negative, I'm just shocked when it's not much higher than a 6 lol. It's just funny
@@WoahLookAtThatFreakthere was a booktubers I use to watch who did this 😂😂 threw me every time, she'd talk up a book, about tropes it used well, tropes it subverted, well made plot, etc. Then give it a 3/5 😂😂
After seeing the first 2 or so minutes of this video, I realized one of the 70mm Oppenheimer screenings were a 50 minute bus ride to NYC away from me and went the next day. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Adam.
Animal Crossing x Doom Eternal was the same type of hype that Barbenheimer was. Both were highly anticipated, and heavily contrasts each other. To my knowledge, nothing like that happened again since in gaming, so seeing that Saw Patrol thing was just...yeah. Pain. One was a getting together of communities, the other is a marketing gimmick
I think the Barbie/Oppenheimer thing taught us which people watches a variety of different movies, which people exclusively watches serious movies, and which people exclusively watches movies with jokes.
I just love how Oppenheimer made this huge deal about his relationship with Strauss and specifically about the first time the two met only to end the movie essentially saying it didn't really matter at all. Like, we bookend the film with that scene and Strauss is like "Oppenheimer said something to Einstein that poisoned him against me!" only for the aid he is speaking to say something like "Maybe he didn't mention you at all, maybe what he said to Einstein was actually important." And you can tell it's supposed to be this mic-drop moment when all I could think was yes, Strauss is unimportant. In the grand scheme of things he is just a footnote in history. He and Oppenheimer didn't have a close relationship, he might have set things in motion but he was not wholly responsible for revoking his security clearance, he does not really matter. So why, exactly, did the movie feel the need to dedicate so much time to him? You could cut his character out of the film entirely and I don't think much would change. It doesn't matter who tattled on Oppenheimer, all that matters is the US turned its back on him.
Historically yes. But what many people don't get is that he is basically the _villain_ of the movie. In the classical sense. And that is a brilliant decision on the writers part.
"So why, exactly, did the movie feel the need to dedicate so much time to him? You could cut his character out of the film entirely and I don't think much would change." It's because Strauss was the main reason Oppenheimer was demonized by the political machine. He was the catalyst. Saying anyone could've been doesn't erase the fact he was. This is a historical film, not fiction.
I really enjoying doing the double feature myself. I never expected to love a Barbie movie, but I did. And as someone who doesn't love Nolan's movies, I actually liked this one.
I watched in the exact same way and I also have the exact same opinions, lmao. Ryan Gosling is now one of my favorite actors. Also the speech that Strauss gives in the end of Oppenheimer just seemed like a mexican soap opera villain revealing his evil plot, it was so funny and weird, I have no idea why Nolan decided to do that.
Barbie and Oppenheimer releasing together is like Animal Crossing: New Horizons and Doom: Eternal but with movies. It’s perfectly balanced: A colorful fun adventure clashing with a dark brutal story. The fact that we’re still gonna get this with Saw Patrol makes it more hilarious 🤣
I'm young, stupid, and haven't honed my critical eye yet so instead of fighting it, I'll just admit Oppenheimer was my favorite movie-going experience ever. I didn't feel the time at all, and I totally bought in to every bit of drama even if it wasn't earned. 10/10 out of pure enjoyment.
You gotta understand Adum isn't really a history buff so when looking at as just a movie I can understand why someone wouldn't be so into it but as a biopic it was pretty fantastic and since I was interested in the subject matter the pacing was super quick for me
There’s a bell curve for adums taste. On the one side, you hate his taste because he doesn’t like the movies you like. On the other side, you love his tastes because he hates the movies for the same reasons you do. On the other side, you hate his tastes because you think the reasons he hates certain movies are fucking stupid. He’s still a good reviewer with conviction tho so it’s always fun to listen.
Another few things to note about the whole “Saw Patrol” thing failing is that whoever’s trying to push it didn’t realise that there kind of needs to be an overlap in audiences for it to make sense. It’s not JUST “haha cute thing contrasting dark thing” Like take Doom and Animal Crossing for instance, you have the contrast in tones there, but then you think about it for two seconds and you realise it’s two highly anticipated games, that had an equal overlap in playerbase. With Saw Patrol, it’s like, two completely different demographics.
I kinda love how Barbie was able to take a movie made by a corporation to promote a corporate product, and then proceed to use that opportunity to make fun of corporations and consumerism as much as possible. And they can get away with it because it makes the corporation billions of dollars. Some could call it hypocritical, but I say it's genius
@@UltimateLegoFan324 Both are great movies, no need to compare imo. I don't really think the Lego Movie was as much of a commentary in the way that Barbie was
@@whatastandupguy3050 How though? The very nature of it being a movie means that the people making it are looking to profit, but that doesn't do anything to the actual story of the movie. It's a silly take. So what, a movie can't criticize consumerism unless it's free to watch?
Oppenheimer's R rating was completely unjustified in regard to the story. The movie about the father of the atomic bomb didn't need any boobs. The awful trailer-like editing is the first thing you experience and it's very off-putting. It is completely unnecessary and it doesn't let you focus on the dialogue. There are a few great and memorable scenes in this film and none of them are fast paced. Also, I'm not a fan of Nolan's non-linear narrative. He's got films where it totally works like Inception or Memento and then there's Dunkirk. But the main problem is that Nolan overdramatizes everything and tries to make the audience to care about Oppenheimer's security clearance more than the consequences of the creation and use of the atomic bomb.
I was pretty disappointed by Barbie, I didn't find it very funny and the themes felt underdeveloped to me. I was on board with the concept and goals but it never felt as if it did anything that interesting with them. The script also felt pretty messy to me, both in terms of tone and pacing. I didn't hate it, but I gave it a 6/10. I was hoping in something better. Still have to watch Oppenheimer, it hasn't come out in my country yet.
While the constant music did make the film feel almost the same throughout, I found Cillian Murphy to be so reserved that he comes across as blank. It was three hours of a very tense man frequently with pursed lips.
6/10 for Oppenheimer? Man, normally I agree with your reviews and ratings but this time I couldn’t have a more different opinion. I really loved that movie a lot.
Huh? Any repetition is just the result that it’s telling a real story, any scene about the same thing in a previous scene is just advancing to the conclusion of that idea
He rated Barbie higher cause it had horses in it
Adam clapped when Ken said horses are just an extension of man.
Oppenheimer also had plenty of horses in it
@@homestuck_officialthank you, Homestuck official, you would know
The patriarchy is at it again.
"After I found out patriarchy wasn't /actually/ about horses, I kind of lost interest"
i always love when companies see a meme and then think they can "ride the wave" but they don't realize that the second they acknowledge the meme it becomes lame and everyone forgets about it.
I wouldn't say everyone forgets... I still have secondhand embarrassment from Sony trying to get in on the Morbin' time meme.
Yeah, the reason it became a meme in the first place is because it was a funny *coincidence.* Doing the same shit but on purpose automatically strips it off any comedic value, no matter how good of a portmanteau you can make from it.
It's like they don't get that this is a lightning in a bottle moment, you cannot replicate this without it being blatantly obvious as to what you're doing.
It actually would work tho if they were good movies and if one half of the demo wasn’t 3 yr olds. Like it’s not lightning in a bottle at all.
@@Kickiusz Its like when your parents started to adopt a slangword you used a lot and you stop using it the moment they do.
Now watch big studios try to artificially induce another Barbenheimer phenomenon for the next 5 years and fail miserably every single time
Da Roach Dawg
on the other hand, we can see studios flop and make another Morbius, and we can all have a laugh at their demise.
Roach diggity doggenheimer
After the success of Barbie, Mattel has already announced their own “cinematic universe” announcing 16 MOVIES: 🙄
Masters of the Universe, Hot Wheels, Matchbox, Barney, Polly Pocket, Rock ‘Em Sock ‘Em Robots, Thomas the Tank Engine, Uno, Magic 8 Ball, American Girl, Wishbone, View-Master, Chatty Cathy & Betsy Wetsy, Big Jim, & Major Matt Mason. 😂🤣
And when another proper Barbenheimer happens, it will be entirely driven by the public... again
What's really funny to me is that Saw X was originally going to release on the same day as the FNAF movie, which unironically would've been a WAY better barbenheimer-esque marketing stunt in my opinion
i think that’s just actual irony
Maybe it's because it's harder to make a fun name. The best I can do is "Five Night's At Saw" and tbh it's lame :(
@@Desert_Rose_ maybe five night's at jigsaws ?
@@exosluckyone nailed it
@@Desert_Rose_ SNAWF
We should keep up the trend dressing up for movies we're excited for. That way we get like mini halloweens every now and then
Love that idea! I'm definitely going to start doing this
Maybe I'm just a nerd but I thought folks already did this? Me and my friends certainly did especially for the DnD movie
@@tombsofak yeah but the normies are doing it now
Some will be easier than others. Barbie was easy, wear pink shit. Don’t know if many will put in the effort to dress up as Napoleon Bonaparte hahaha
Gentleminions was fun
I think if they keep trying to pull this kind of marketing stunt, we should really just trick the studios into doing another Morbius.
OMG that would be iconic. And fit right in with Gen Z's feral personality type lol
release morbius twice on the same day
meme marketing being exploitative seeing how gullible the internet is.
Morbius and Morbius double feature. Let’s see, what could we call it…. maybe Morbius?
Positive you'll have the chance with blue beetle for a repeat
Also....Crossover, anyone?
Adum destroys Saw Patrol with facts and logic
Ben Shabibo in shambles
I can't help but feel like those "18yr olds in suits" _ARE_ the exact target audience. The kids that swarmed Minions.
A gorefest being marketed alongside a kid's movie? Just the right amount of edge to catch fire with the edge lords.
@@Chance57 That's... actually probably true. Though I think (or hope) that that crowd isn't large enough to make it a winning concept.
@@viljamtheninjaunfortunately, there are many 18 year olds
They should bring this up at the next sawcon
Props to the guy who went to both movies as Spider-Man. You be you, dude.
No, he's being Spider-Man
@@VashkeyAnyone could be Spider-Man, you could be Spider-Man!
Apparently, that was Ryan Gosling. He wore a disguise to check out both movies in theaters.
Guys, Spider-Man gets to see movies too, just like the rest of us.
@@phothewin6019is that actually true or is this a joke?
Going to Barbenheimer as Spider-Man is high art. It doesn't matter who sees it, remembers it, records it - all that matters is it happened.
I applaud his efforts to embrace individuality
Get me pictures of Spider-Man
He's a menace!
Good to know that people give credit to the true hero of this review
It really is nice to have another “event” that isn’t just superheroes or a meme flick. Not saying every other movie was unimportant or stuff but you know, this is HUGE. I appreciate how easy it is to find media I want these days, but I think a lot was lost with the death of monoculture. Some bad stuff thankfully but also a lot of good stuff was lost. It gives randos something to discuss and has a unified feeling to it.
But...Barbie and Oppenheimer are part of the meme. The meme feeds the marketing
You mean the rise of monoculture?
I despise how corporations suck the fun out of every meme. Barbenheimer was such a cool and unifying hype bubble but I just know we’re going to get so many lame attempts to replicate it.
I mean yeah, but that's true of anything. I don't think it sours the experience of this, Barbenheimer will always still be the one big event that audiences themselves planned rather than corporations
Like seriously with barbie it makes sense considering it's a film that can be seen by both children and adults alike but paw patrol isn't something most adults would want to see alone and saw isn't that popular of a franchise to get much hype from the public so this pairing seriously annoys me.
@@shawklan27the Barbie movie is not for children, as strange as it sounds.
It was fun going to a serious film, while in the lobby every was wearing pink cowboy hats.
i personally love it. its so much fun to watch corporate meme campaigns crash and burn. what i hate is when their meme attempts actually work. people will see saw patrol memes and ironically pretend to be hyped for it, as if turning it into an ironic meme isnt exactly what the corporations want.
It’s hilarious that Barbie is more controversial than a movie about the life of the person who created the atomic bomb.
Go woke go broke
@NotTwitter I agree, Barbie making *checks notes* $1 billion in a fortnight proves it
@@LplusRatioplusNobodyCaresThe movie is literally going to make a billion bucks
@@BoondoggleMyCognle "Man with no money crosses fingers and prays that millionaires will go bankrupt, more at 11."
He’s a man. Literally doesn’t matter what he did.
the guy who dressed as spider-man to both screenings, is my hero
And they say that a hero can save us...
are you 12
it was Adum himself
@@JetstoanywhereI'm not gonna stand here and wait
Alright, let's do this one last time
Barbenheimer was lightning in a bottle. because of the strike, the actors didn't have a chance to cringily lean into the meme and kill it.
@Shrikusriram1 no shot. The extent to which they did anything was greta and margot posting pics holding oppenheimer tickets and cillian saying "yeah I'm gonna see barbie"
@@troyareyes That might be the extent that YOU observed. @Shrikusriram1 is correct tho, there was plenty of time for the actors to lean into it and lean into it they did. Margot Robbie and Cillian Murphy aren't saddled with meme-killing cringe like some actors are. They're both incredibly charismatic and their Barbenheimer interviews and social media presence helped boost the meme if anything.
Barbie had a massive press run are u crazy, I felt bad for how much Margo had to smile for all that promotion, she definitely leaned into it at some point I think
They have totally leaned into it tho, Cillian Murphy said in an interview he was going to watch Barbie and was photographed in front of a Barbie promotional poster, Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig did the same with Oppenheimer, Ryan Gosling quoted Cillian Murphy out of context and openly discussed Barbieheimer with Margot Robbie...
Whats annoying about paramount trying to force saw patrol is that they miss the point that Barbie and oppenheimer have a surprisingly overlapping audience. It wasn't just people noticing that these two drastically different movies were coming out the same day but people realising that they wanted to see both.
I think it was a joke.
I really think Ryan gosling is underappreciated is a comedic talent. He was hysterical in "the nice guys", which is part of the reason it's one of my favorite comedies.
I agree!! I was shocked the first time I saw him in an interview and he was hilarious! He has that RBF that made me originally think he was a bit of a blockhead, but he's a lot like Steve Carrell with his ability to keep a straight face and dry humour no matter how ridiculous the conversation gets. His comedic timing is surprisingly on point and I'd love to see him in more comedies. Adum's right, he completely stole the show from Barbie and I loved it!
@@sugarbaby1974 Ryan's interviews for Barbie really had me in stitches, it sounded like his brain was fully broken into Ken 😂
The Nice Guys is severely underrated
He has been fantastic hosting SNL as well. And that takes comedic chops.
I’m really flattered by the kind words (he’s literally me)
I've always wondered what Oppenheimer's sex life looked like, and this has fulfilled all my fantasies.
It was quite explosive.
You will be contacted by the committee on un-American activities soon.
they didnt even mention half of his sex life. Its way more interesting
I am become Jean, destroyer of spleens
"He fears the Nazis, builds a bomb, then WAM! Full penetration! Bomb, penetration, bomb, penetration, bomb, penetration, and this goes on and on for about 3 hours, until the movie just sort of ends."
I love how Barbie and Oppenheimer are the most anticipated movies of a summer with new Spider-Man, Indiana Jones, Mission Impossible, and Transformers movies. This meme is unironically saving the cinema experience
Nothing will improve
@@quantumblauthor7300maybe not quickly but I'm hoping this year of movies will knock a little bit of sense into studio execs that they need to leave their damn creatives alone.
And then there’s Killers of the Flower Moon in October along with Napoleon in November. Are they gonna be good? I don’t know. But both have creative talent behind them that I’m willing to go in blind opening night.
@@GayIncel It won't. The decision of the suits is based entirely around money, not respectability or quality. Unless "creatives" band together, unionize and vote for the right people while sabotaging the movie industry as a whole, nothing will change.
People keep thinking that quality will eventually shine through and win the day, just like how people think "justice" or "truth" wins in the end. This is brainwashed bullshit. You either fight for what you want or you give the snakes at the top exactly what they want, and what they want is money and power.
New spiderman?
If you know the meaning, history, and controversy surrounding Matchbox Twenty's "Push", its use in the film - right as the barbies are actively exploiting the Kens' insecurities in order to put them back in their place - is nothing short of brilliant.
do you mind explaining it in relation to the movie? I'm completely unfamiliar with the song
@@MaTaMaDiaThe pooping dog better be S Tier
@@Impiedoothe song was heavily criticized when originally released for seemingly being about how men treat women in a toxic way, when the song is actually about how a WOMAN treats a man in a toxic way
The use in the movie is that all the Kens sing it literally, so it makes it seem like the Kens are misogynistic, when in reality the song is a double entendre.
They all sing the song while the Barbies plot to use their feminine wiles to manipulate the men to free the women from their influence after Ken corrupts everyone with the concept of patriarchy, which is what the song originally was commentary on (as an isolated case, the song doesn’t declare are women are like that)
@@Impiedoo haven't watched barbie or listened to push, but the rumor is the song was criticized for being "misogynistic" / abuse - EXCEPT it was actually done by the women towards the men ( ever read something and then at the end, the author write - now reverse the gender ?) . you can read the wiki about the song. so now a song about women abusing men are being played at a scene where the barbies are abusing / exploiting kens. so it kind of brilliant, except for people who missed the point - which I'm not quite sure where Greta is.
What are you doing here? Make god tier level content like you always do GODDAMIT
I almost laughed out loud when he was in bed with that girl, she randomly picked out a book and just so happen to open it on THE LINE, and had him quote it while "exploding" in her. JUST LIKE THE BOOOMB. Seemed like something that would be in a parody movie.
Yeah that part was really goofy. Not sure what the intention was there - kind of lessened the impact of when he says it later on in the film. It almost reminds me of that awful new Pinocchio movie where they keep on explaining why he has the name "Pine-ochhio" (because he's made of pine hur dur). Like I don't think anyone was dying to know where he got the phrase from, especially in the middle of a sex scene.
it was so cheesy
melodramatic moments like these make me respect the movie way less. nolan bros are delusional....
It made me laugh it was so f-cking stupid and out of place.
@@AlienZizi Don't you dare say anything against them. After all, they are watching the most convoluted, intellectualist movies ever made.
My favourite moment in Barbenheimmer is when Albert Einstein sacrifices himself to fight Ken and give time for Oppenheimer and Barbie to disable his stolen atom bomb that he planned to drop on Washington DC.
Also, the reference to Doctor Strangelove with Barbie riding the nuke in the cowgirl outfit was pretty nice.
True poetic cinema
The onslaught of celebrity cameos in Oppenheimer made it feel like a Drunk History episode at times.
Me and my friend came in 15 mins late and we were completely lost so we just made Iron man, scarecrow and Mr.Robot jokes.
Celebrity cameos? They're actors dude. If you have a lot of characters in a movie, you're gonna have a lot of actors, and good actors are more often than not celebrities.
@@Triplicatathey probably just meant the film has a stacked cast. They may not know that term. Don’t have to be be so rude
@@Triplicata It was a joke... Some of those famous actors pop up for one short scene (like Gary Oldman, Casey Affleck, James Remar), so yeah, those felt like cameos.
In a parallel universe there’s a Barbie movie directed by Christopher Nolan and the Oppenheimer biopic made by Greta Gerwig.
A Barbie movie written like Memento would be an incredible experience, lol.
You just blew my mind son
I wish they did that. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the studios decided to try for Barbenheimer 2. I don't foresee Nolan or Gerwig agreeing but one can dream.
@@horace6851 Nolan directs a 3.5 hour movie about Ken going out to discover meaning in his life, several existential crises, confusing explorations of the human identity, and beautiful, well-designed extended shots of Ken crying with synth loudly playing over the scene ensue. Greta Gerwig directs a quirky 2 hour film about Robert and Kitty's retirement on a sailboat in the Caribbean, laced with feminist and/or communist commentary to fit the theme.
@@GoddoDoggo I like how you think :)
Hard disagree that you can trim 90 or even 60 minutes off of Oppenheimer. I think if you really triaged you could cut it down 30 minutes and still have the artistic vision intact. It's a decades-spanning biopic that needs an extremely slow burn for the cumulative moment of the bomb drop. You can't do the NM testing scene an hour into a movie and get the same emotional impact. Also, the reason they show you similar dynamics ie Oppenheimer's consistent failure to see those who would take advantage of him is, in itself, an artistic statement, turning Oppenheimer into a tragic hero--a role the movie clearly places him in with other creative choices it makes throughout the runtime!
I agree. At no point did I feel it was too long for what it was trying to cover. It was a very engaging and intelligent movie. I thought that's what we wanted more of from the movie industry these days.
I was getting bored it felt like I was watching the same scene over and over in the third act
I feel like the way the scenes were edited didn't feel repetitive - they were applying new contexts to moments in his life, from the personal, romantic, logistical, political, and legacy perspectives. The movie doesn't move in a straight line and so calling back to previous scenes doesn't feel repetitive to me.
I think the movie needed all the time. However if anything MAYBE 30 minutes can be trimmed down, 60 and 90 minutes less would just not be a movie that’s as good as we got.
@@theebonymawyeah I don’t think we’re supposed to look at him as a hero, but not really as a bad person either, just someone who was given an impossible task
I find it odd how the mentality around noise and phones in theaters has changed so much in the past 4-5 years. I remember going to the theater half a dozen years ago and strangers would say something if you checked your phone and had the brightness distract them or if you did much more than an occasional whisper. If a kid cried during a movie, their parents dragged them out of there in a few seconds. It was so taboo to make noise or even emit light during a movie.
Sure, most people are respectful enough to not talk at full volume or something like that, but every other time I go to the theater, there's someone texting with their phone unsilenced and brightness cranked up, or whispering for half the movie, or some kid who probably is too young to be watching the film bawling their eyes out for 40 minutes.
People bringing children into random movies has seemingly gotten way worse. A mother brought like 3 of her 8 year olds into Dead Reckoning and, of course, they got bored. Yeah, I get it, you have children and you probably don't get out much. But just hire a babysitter for a couple hours.
I feel like this is a US only kinda thing? Like I have no problems of that sort where I'm from.
@@tamatebako_yt I watched both in a packed theatre and didn't have any of these issues. For some reason people love to extrapolate out their one-time personal events into a general trend
@@heckingbamboozled8097yeah. I almost never deal with this in normal movies.
The only times I get bad audiences, is teens in a cheap horror movie.
Weirdly, despite there being more kids there, I saw less of this at my Barbie screening than my Oppenheimer one. The old woman who sat next to me at Oppenheimer kept taking her phone out and scrolling Facebook-I kept telling her to stop, and she was so mad by the end. There was also an old man a few rows ahead (also at Oppenheimer) whose phone was so bright, it was like a fucking beacon. Meanwhile only one (young) person had their phone out at Barbie, and her friend quickly got her to turn it off.
I am impressed by how many people who committed to a Barbenhemier Double Feature, on the exact same day! I'd never have been able to do that myself.
I made the mistake of seeing Oppenheimer then Barbie. That sht will leave you EXHAUSTED. 5 hours in a movie theater. It's FUN and a great way to beat the heat but not doing it again.
WATCH BARBIE FIRST.
I grabbed my friends, we saw Barbie first and then went to eat Pizza and just hung out a bit before seeing Oppenheimer. It was quite awesome.
@@ribottostudio i did barbie last and it was ideal. you leave on a higher note than the morose depression of Oppenheimer
It was 100% worth it. It's very fun, I saw Oppenheimer first, had an hour and a half in between to relax with my friend and then we saw barbie. Its a great experience I highly recommend
Same
YMS talking about being excited for SAW is the funniest thing ever once you've watched the reviews of the series in the past. Imagine if they gloss over the 2017 Jigsaw film and jump right back into the convoluted bloated nightmare plot
spiral already glossed over jigsaw so saw x is probably not gonna acknowledge its existence either lol (maybe for the better?)
I went and watched the whole saw series bc of adums reviews 😂 so now I too am excited for Saw X, I am very excited to see which good guys will be back as henchmen, where in the timeline it'll be set... I'll definitely be seeing this one alone in theatres but I won't miss it lol
@@skunkjo3195 my condolences
Vomit jumpscare remake
Saw X takes place between Saw 1 and 2, so it will probably ignore everything that came after the first one.
The fact that Oppenheimer had Florence Pugh naked during the 'Destroyer of worlds' scene had me in stitches. The most famous thing people know about this guy and Nolan decided we needed to see boobs to hold peoples attention.
😂😂😂
*Certified nolan writing moment
lmao fair enough. i will say tho it's been a bit annoying seeing ppl complain about nudity in an r rated movie
If you seriously think there was boobs in that scene only to just grab your attention you must have the brain of a child
Well checking out Oppenheimer's life after the movie, his sexual life was toned down A LOT in the movie.
Dude got some mad coochie in his life.
I love hearing about Adum's experience with people showing up to Barbie in pink and for some reason Spider Man was there twice. Something about that warms my heart and I don't know why.
The same thing that warms your heart makes me want to push a button to nuke all humanity.
Barbenheimer is basically the movie version of Doom Eternal and Animal Crossing coming out on the same day.
Yes
Loved the deconstruction of the “Barbenheimer” meme at the beginning, I saw people posting Saw Patrol on Reddit like “DUDE ITS JUST LIKE BARBENHEIMER”, and I just felt defeated seeing their lame marketing work on someone.
There's a very high likelihood that the reaction you saw was astrorurfed. Companies do that on Reddit a lot.
Don’t feel defeated. Pity then and the companies doing this. This parhetic behaviour doesn’t take away from Barbenheimer. They will have their comeuppance...
Bro the movie subreddit is just a glorified advertisement board for Hollywood movies. Shit ass sub my guy
Reddit died a couple months ago. Only the dregs are left at this point. (Just like what's left of Twitter.)
A lot of the active profiles are astroturfers and bots now.
@@Szokynyovicsas if some slight has occurred 😂
I'm glad that this happened to be honest. You saw people get out of their comfort zones and experiment and if anything this past weekend has told me that we need more films like this. Movies should be an EVENT should be FUN, should make us THINK, should get us GOING. It shouldn't ever feel exhausting to talk about. But lately, because of the political climate we're in, it IS exhausting to talk about movies. You can't share a damn opinion anymore without everyone clamoring about how WOKE you are or how you're a sell out, or you're just catering to sheep. It. SUCKS. And Barbenheimer reinvigorated my love of talking about movies. So I'm grateful to these films for that.
go off queen!!!! i saw oppenheimer opening night and the audience was v respectful. maybe because they were too sleepy to kick the back of my seat as is the norm for well attended premieres
I was walking home the other day just as a screening for Barbie ended. SO many people in pink!! It made me so happy to see, it has been so fun!!
I feel like politics have become the new watercooler talk with monoculture dying off and I hate that! Can’t leave the house without overhearing people talk about politics from other countries :/ (I’m in Australia, it’s never about politics here unless it’s about taxes or immigration. Lol) I just have to tell people no, I won’t discuss politics, it feels destructive to me and makes my mood significantly worse.
I honestly think even the people who were on their phones the whole time had the right idea - rather, they're taking those first baby steps either back into, or for the first time, public. They very well may have had a problem, social media addiction is real and got worse during the quarantine, but they decided that, instead of staying home and scrolling endlessly on their phone, they were going to go out with friends. Did they still end up scrolling on their phones? Yes, but this event got them motivated to go out and exist in public. It's not a perfect illustration of shedding your addiction, but it's a really hopeful first step.
I've become pretty disillusioned with movies in general lately, I stopped going to the theater regularly in late 2017. I don't see Barbenheimer as an immediate, industry-wide change, but, like going out in public and scrolling on your phone, it's a good first step to making movie releases feel like an event worth attending again. I'm gonna allow myself to be hopeful that, maybe years from now, I'll be going into theaters regularly again and actually enjoying myself.
The outfits were GREAT! Even the guys were cosplaying or wearing suits in my theater
The star-studded cast aside, as a physicist, Oppenheimer felt like an Avengers movie but with early/mid 20th century physicists. If you’re in the know, it’s hard not to fan boy over characters that appear for a single scene.
u right
FR like so many scientists, important people that shaped the way we do things today, like if you paid at least a little attention in chemistry, physics and mathematics, you can appreciate how insane the Manhattan project was when it came to the people involved.
I fan boyed so hard ngl
no wonder it sucked
yeah when they just casually dropped in Fermi, that was hype AF.
Somehow I felt much more engaged during my second watch of Oppenheimer. The performances and quick pace made the 3 hours fly by, also one of my favorite Nolan endings
Second watch Brother You got my respect.
I agree, oppenheimer felt like it was too much but on my second watch i loved the density and took away a lot to think about
That ending was a cherry on top.
I also appreciated it more the second time, especially the seemingly underwhelming but actually appropriate size explosion.
Watched it 6 times. @@kwameoliver2455
I agree about the editing in Oppenheimer. At first, I thought they were using the trailer-esque edits to speed through his early life/background and get us to the Manhattan Project & aftermath...but then it just kept going in that style for 3 hours. I found myself wishing we could linger longer in one scene and see it play out in full, that only really happened for the bomb test and even that felt too brief.
Yeah, the bits with the strings and the insanely loud rumbling that kept popping up periodically throughout the film felt very trailer-y. I think Nolan was going for some abstract arthouse vibe, but it didn't really end up coming across that way. Just felt distracting after the first time
@@heckingbamboozled8097 I thought he got addicted to TikTok
I really do love that the whole Barbenheimer trend happened. It's just really fun to see the Internet come together for this and I think the fact that the two movies in question are, at the very least, good is really heartwarming, at least for me.
Especially since for a second it looked like a dumb “boys vs girls” war brewing, and instead turned into a beautiful moment of ironic solidarity
I really love big theatrical events like this that are 100% audience-ran. No corporate pandering involved, just people all agreeing to have a good time in their own chosen ways. It's like when A Quiet Place came out and all the theaters were intentionally dead silent (still kinda bummed I didn't see that when it came out)
@@TheStanishStudiosOh 100%, I know it's a cliche at this point to bring this up, but given how divided things are now, it was nice to completely ignore stupid culture war discourse and just have a good time with people
It reminds me of the Doom Eternal, Animal Crossing thing.
Saw Patrol will NEVER be as epic as Barbenheimer.
Especially since Barbenheimer’s demographics were both geared towards adult people and could be enjoyed by most people, while Saw is niche and Paw Patrol is literally for small children
after seeing so many headass takes about barbie, I have the feeling that the movie was too subtle
Literally 💀💀 50% of ppl say it's too on the nose and then 50% of ppl miss the point entirely. how!!!
@@skunkjo3195I think that's because the subtle part is subtle and the obvious part is obvious (fucking genius take here I know)
what I mean is, female commentary is a bit on the nose and the male commentary is a bit more subtle?..
One of the most polarizing films who would have thought
It's not. Media literacy is just real low unfortunately.
@@nicknayl0rreading my classmates work in my high school English class was depressing, but my college english class was soul crushing when I saw how the students could barely glean anything off the material, adults in their 20's bumbling like 7th graders.
"The guy from The Boys."
Uh, he has a name, you know! It's Dennis Quaid's Son.
No no it's Randy Quaid's Nephew
Hard disagree, I thought Oppenheimer runtime was deserved, the pacing was pretty good and there isn’t really anything I would cut out
I am infertile from eating scented candles
me too
me too
Ive found my home
Nobody told you that only the unscented ones are edible?
Does this mean i can go back to eating bathbombs?
I am yet to watch oppenheimer but barbie's lack of subtlety actually made sense to me, the controversy made me crack up after seeing the show.
Right? It made barbie and ken childlike. They were kids exploring the patriarchy/matriarchy. They weren't supposed to fully understand it.
@@thematman92 Exactlyyyyyy
The lack of subtly is what made it popular among women, they want to be taken seriously but then the most milquetoast, hit you over the head messaging of the movie gets them to clap like seals because the Daddy Issues Incarnate agree with The Message (TM). No problem with exploring the subjects of matriarchy vs patriarchy, various waves of feminism, etc, just do it in a clever, thought-provoking way
@@Hiphop618 well I won't say it was top notch clever however I must admit even when a show is clever, if the audience is not on the same wave...you will get the same mindless response
@@thematman92 but in the end the men get nothing in Barbieland. The film could've at least showed the signs of equality beginning to form, but no
I think Oppenheimer using big actors in small roles was kinda smart, because it helps keep the audience interested, which was needed in a movie as long and fast paced to prevent me from losing track on who was who lol
Keeping track of who's who's was SO much easier with all recognizable faces, I'm honestly so bad at that shit and I wsd surprisingly not lost or confused during this film
@@bsmith7 Same here lol. For all the Nolanisms and intricate plotting, the film was surprisingly easy to follow.
i get using it to help people remember characters, but in terms of keeping people interested just randomly throwing big celebrities on screen is like the laziest way to do that ever lmao
@@twod0ves If you're this devoted to making a fast-paced movie that still crams in almost every person relevant to the real story, then I think it's a smart move.
It does totally break your immersion though
Oppenheimer really benefited from a 2nd viewing for me. You might not agree, but i was able to see so much more into the film and appreciate its scope and journey. I agree it's pretty long but I just feel like you have to stay with it and it'll reward you. Repetitive? Only a little, I'd think? It's planting a lot of seeds and setting a lot of wheels in motion for a deep character payoff. I dunno, i might be biased but it's hard for me not to see this as a master at his craft, employing so many simple yet tasteful film techniques and film language to create an immersive, gripping, historical insight into this twisted character and story.
I honestly felt the opposite way in terms of runtime for Oppenheimer. I felt the 3 hours felt like 2 hours personally and I loved the film overall. Interesting to hear Adum say it was too long and boring but then again I was also interested in the history of Oppenheimer while he wasn’t so fair enough
I was going a bit mad in Oppenhiemer, because prior to the bomb scene I could see somebody playing games on their phone in the front row. Just one very distracting light poking through all the head rests. All they wanted from the movie was an explosion!
"He was dressed as spiderman the whole time and I am not sure why"
Oh I know, and I respect it.
Give us the scoop doc, what are we missin?
something i loved about openheimer was that horrible rumbling noise that played before the test bomb was detonated. it was a really, really cool way to set tension and the tone, totally immersed me.
Adam singlehandedly destroyed patriarchy by giving Barbie one point more
Absolutely creased up by predicting the Barbie score as a 7/10 the YMS tradition will always live on
The recognizable actors is brilliant though. Besides the star power it helps the audience keep characters straight.
True and if it’s good who cares?
For me it detracted, I couldn't refer back to the characters in film because I only knew the actor. Immersion breaking to say josh peck pushed the bomb cuz I have no idea who he was. Especially when they name drop character who are integral to the plot, like so and so was the spy? I remembered the face but the name meant nothing
I was having trouble articulating why Oppenheimer felt so showy when it starts, and the description of it feeling like a trailer is so spot on! I think of other Nolan movies where the opening of the movie is meticulously arranged to throw you into the deep end of something, usually anchored by a character defining experience supported by strong sound and visuals, and here it was being thrown headfirst into a crosscutting montage that didn't really say much about any one thing, and did more to take me out of the movie than pull me in. Fortunately I eventually could settle in and enjoy large swaths of the movie quite a bit, but the opening felt like a missed opportunity.
If you know about Oppenheimer, Cillian Murphy’s performance is even more amazing. It’s such a good imitation of him it’s eerie
Any examples?
Barbenheimer definitely has the same effect as the Doom eternal + animal crossing effect
This double feature was made for Adum
There’s genuine commentary about the Barbie brand that goes beyond feminism 101, how a brand targeting women that simply imagines a world without patriarchy could be empowering and subversive, but with the passage of time, it’s become disempowering because it has failed to confront it and has even been appropriated by it. And that’s just the main message of the film. There’s so much detail and nuance about what the film is saying that for the first time in a long time, I felt the need to just think about for a while to truly get all of its meaning.
He has this NPC smiling face that he does that no one else can replicate
So you admit feminists are stupd children
Spoilers for barbie
I really like the movie but I think the message of the movie has been ruined for me just by the internet and social justice being popular alone. Its not at all the fault of the movie but I've been inundated with feminism talks from all angles of the discussion, that the message didn't do anything for me. Especially as a woman. I've been told routinely by my mom, cousins, youtube channels, dove soap that I need to confront the patriarchy. I feel like the movie would have hit harder in 2005 or something but sadly i was 4 then so... I will say though that I did like the part where the mom character told barbie that things could suck for women but that was life in general and that you learn to make the most of it and do what you can, regardless. That's something I rarely hear in this sea of playing the blame game, so I appreciated that. Learning to take control of your own life because you owe yourself that much, is what more people need to hear I think. Men and especially women.
It was a mess.
So it is feminism 101.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who hates the light piano music that gets overused in OSTs for "emotional" scenes.
the piano piece in that scene was a version of "Kitty Comes to Testify", a track that plays during her defense of Oppenheimer during his security clearance hearing. It's a track that plays when the two of them are united against hardship and it fits the scene excellently without being overbearing.
I always thought that Christopher Nolan movies feel like "theatrical trailers" and most of the issues you pointed out are issues that I have with most of his movies (in terms of editing)
i just saw barbie the other day in a super small local theater, the only one on its island. they only show one thing at a time/ per week so the whole place was dressed to the nine's in balloons, ribbons, fuzzy and glittery shit. almost everyone had an outfit for it, too. really one of the greatest theater experiences ive had even if i couldnt hear over all the cheering and laughter sometimes
Oppenheimer was really good and it’s kinda nice to see the general public appreciate a pretty serious and “boring” movie.
It's a Nolan movie, the general public was going to watch and appreciate it either way
I did actually feel bad for the parents who brought their kids to Barbie when I saw it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought it was like those god awful direct to video Barbie movies that you put on to just entertain your kids for an hour, then half an hour in realized it was NOT that at all. I mean, you’d have to be kinda dim or oblivious to think that, but I can feel bad for dim and/or oblivious people.
They accidentally saw a good movie instead.
@@hamfranky yeah but those kids are gonna be confused as hell tho🤣
When I was about 10 (almost 11) or so, I went to see *The Dark Knight* at the cinema with my parents. I remember there being a lot of moms with their kids, a lot even younger than me; I'd seen Batman Begins so I knew (more or less) what I was in for, but I guess they hadn't. I guess they expected a campy film "for the whole family" like the Schumacher ones, they were pretty shocked at the violence of the film, during the interval.
"The Guy from The Boys"
Excuse me, you mean The Guy from Best of The Worst.
Bruh so weird how people can have the exact opposite takes. If anything, I feel like Oppenheimer was a little rushed (especially the first hour). That shit flew by in what felt like 10 minutes, never did I get the feeling of the movie dragging.
And I thought Barbie was absolute dogshit lmao
I feel like saying "sorry ladies" followed by "Ryan Gosling" is a sentence never before uttered
"Sorry ladies, Ryan Gosling is gay"
Oppenheimer was very good and never was I bored in the 3 hour run-time. Sure the bomb assembling section of the movie was the most interesting and engaging part (as it should be). The court hearing afterwards was also really interesting and felt nice as you can see how the relationships Oppenheimer made with these people played out. Only thing I didn't like was the sex scenes ngl. Just felt off.
sex “scenes”, plural? we had one sex scene and then a post coital scene of two people sitting naked and vulnerable but also distant and apart on chairs opposite each other. it was all very tasteful and artistic
Tasteful and artistic? It was totally corny and obvious. Dumb seppos
Agree with you apart from the sex scenes.. they were tastefully done and fit perfectly in the movie
@wijamc there's two, the book scene and when they're being interviewed she shows up for some cowgirl
@@neonbarnowl i wouldn’t call that a sex scene. i’d call that “a visual metaphor for being disgusted and betrayed by your husband who is currently having his - and thus your - personal life raked over for the record by a kangaroo court of men”. just because there is sex *in* a scene doesn’t make it a sex scene
Honestly really fun to see people packing the cinemas for a cinema experience.
“Too many well-known actors” is the weirdest complaint I’ve ever heard for a movie.
glad you mentioned the editing choices in Oppenheimer, particularly the way dialogue was edited together, because I've seen nobody else mention it. I liked the film a good bit overall, but I couldn't get over how fast paced the dialogue was. It gave a very unnatural vibe to a lot of the conversations, as there was never room to breath between lines and everyone felt like they were firing off clever one liners, which really took me out of it. One of my favorite scenes is right before they test the bomb, and Oppenheimer and Damon's character are quietly sitting in a room contemplating on what they're about to do. The editing in this scene is way slower paced, and thus the conversation carries a lot more weight and feels more genuine.
I felt that was kind of the point though. Being so swept up in the moment, naive, no time to stop and think about what the work you're doing is leading to and whether or not you *should* be doing it. I agree to an extent about the quippy dialogue at times, but I felt the pace of the dialogue was there to keep you in the same headspace of rapid change, progress.
Remember the scene where they're debating which cities to drop bombs on, and one of the guys vetos Kyoto? That was literally the first scene in the movie where Nolan just let the onscreen action speak for itself, without needing a bombastic musical score to make his point. I couldn't believe we were this far into the movie to get a scene without overbearing music.
@@stevedomique9278 I hadn't thought of this as being intentional as a reflection of the getting swept up in the moment. I picked up on the strange editing without noticing that it was the cuts during dialogue in particular that I was picking up on. While if intentional, this is a decision with good thought behind it, I think it still took away from my enjoyment of the movie. Again, it feels like a film to be appreciated, not enjoyed. The cuts made it feel less like a movie and more like a collection of scenes. To me, at least. They needed to breathe in order to feel like a whole.
@@ryanguy9000 Absolutely fair, and it could easily be me reading way too much into things haha. The people I went to see it with felt the exact same about all the cuts so you're not alone for sure!
@@stevedomique9278 If that was the intent it was a spectacular failure for me, and utterly strangled the acting. Worst editing I've ever seen.
I'm honesty surprised that Adum didn’t go harder on Barbie. It's a good movie but personally, I think it's way more flawed than his review made out. I laughed at a few scenes but I think it's a bit too preachy and the pacing was uneven. I enjoyed Oppenheimer much more even though I'm not a big Christopher Nolan fan.
I agree but he probably has to talk about Barbie carefully since it has a bigger message than some random feminist movie. There were some things I wanted him to trash on but I get that he probably can’t
“Not the male-hating movie some are interpreting this film as.”
The Critical Drinker: *sweats*
I disagree with Critical Drinker pretty frequently but I especially don't understand how he interpreted Barbie the way he did. He claims it was an attack on motherhood but America Ferrera's character is a mother who wants to get closer to her daughter? I guess the movie acknowledges being a mom is hard? Does that count as "attacking" motherhood?
@@TheChiefOrg13he also accuses it of ripping off 2001, when it’s obviously an homage/parody.
The worst part is when he’s like “the audience doesn’t realise that the 2001 reference unintentionally makes the point that toys grow obsolete”. Yes it does you doofus, that’s why it’s in the movie.
TCD isn’t a reviewer, he’s a grifter who accepts conservative money to do propaganda for the right wing. His media literacy is worse than even your average conservative
please don't take Critical Drinker seriously. He is a grifter, and it's becoming only more obvious with time.
@samb8744 I stopped taking that dipshit's opinion on almost everything serious years ago
@@horace6851
"He's a grifter because I don't agree with him!"
People sometimes have bad takes. Please let this be your last.
Thought the same thing about the Oppenheimer score. I walked out going “wow another amazing Hans zimmer score, sounds a lot like the one from inception.” Only later realized it wasn’t him lol
Interesting perspective. For me I wasn’t bored once during Oppenheimer. Was locked in from beginning to end and didn’t feel the length. But I can understand how if you’re not into history that you can easily get lost and not care
That's such a lame argument I'm seeing, that if you "aren't into history" it explains why you're bored. I was bored because the editing was utterly awful, the script sucked, and the music was blasting the whole time - basic fundamentals of filmmaking failed. Not because I'm not peeing my pants that JFK made an appearance.
@@fakenamerealchungus9851 I’m sorry you have the attention span of a 2 year old. But if you’re into history, you will not be bored. The editing is challenging but you can piece together the sequence of events if you have a functioning brain
@@fakenamerealchungus9851 agree, films about historical events ought to MAKE the content interesting, not the other way around. if oppenheimer was about literally anything else it'd be such a stinker. feels the same to me as disney milking star wars content for fanboys who will watch no matter what - except since it's about smart intellectual alpha science men it's suddenly a "masterwork". and likewise just because i think barbie was the objectively better movie doesn't mean i'm a tiktok zoomer lmao (if anything, oppenheimer was edited like a compilation of youtube shorts)
For Oppenheimer I felt the snappy editing style was to help get across they were in an arms race, and that time is of the essence. Maybe when I rewatch in imax I'll feel differently.
My favorite detail from the movie was that the speech he gives and is feeling the guilt of his actions was LOUDER than the scene where a literal atomic bomb goes off.
But there was no arms race in the beginning of the film and this editing was used throughout the film for no apparent reason. It's basically the first thing you experience while watching the film and it's very off-putting.
@@srsjackson it was if to show the lead up to the project and how he tied onto it. I thought it was fine due to the fact there was many characters to introduce. if he'd not done it that way it would have to have been 4 hours. basically a cut had to be made somewhere.
wow! i was honestly glued to the screen for the entire 3 hours of oppenheimer. I found it really engaging all the way through, personally. Maybe it’s just because i’m a history buff. Nonetheless, i respect your opinion YMS!
3:16 Cillian Murphy didn’t ‘stole the show’ he was the main character
I don't really get that you think that oppenheimer was too long, I was either fascinated or on edge the entire runtime.
Yeah I don’t understand how he says he was bored for HALF the movie?? Like bro you’re missing HALF if not MORE of the story
@@quennygreen Yeah, really strange take...but still not as bad as "The technology makes no sense in dune"^^
It's impossible to say "Matt Damon" without that voice after seeing team america.
Adam's reviews always puzzle me. But also amuses me because it sounds like he is never satisfied, and I can relate to that.
The thing that puzzles me is how he'll do a review of a movie where he'll have nothing but positive things to say about it but then he'll give it a 6 or a 7 when it sounds like it's going to at least be an 8 lol.
@@WoahLookAtThatFreak enjoying a movie doesnt mean you need to love it to death
it's not the end the world when a movie has a couple issues
@@luigiwiiUU I never said it did lol. Just the way he talks about movies sometimes it sounds like it's going to get a much higher rating because of how little negative things he has to say about it. I know we all have different metrics as far as our own personal rankings go, but when I hear someone be so positive about a movie and have very little to say that's negative, I'm just shocked when it's not much higher than a 6 lol. It's just funny
@@WoahLookAtThatFreakthere was a booktubers I use to watch who did this 😂😂 threw me every time, she'd talk up a book, about tropes it used well, tropes it subverted, well made plot, etc. Then give it a 3/5 😂😂
After seeing the first 2 or so minutes of this video, I realized one of the 70mm Oppenheimer screenings were a 50 minute bus ride to NYC away from me and went the next day. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Adam.
Animal Crossing x Doom Eternal was the same type of hype that Barbenheimer was. Both were highly anticipated, and heavily contrasts each other. To my knowledge, nothing like that happened again since in gaming, so seeing that Saw Patrol thing was just...yeah. Pain. One was a getting together of communities, the other is a marketing gimmick
I think the Barbie/Oppenheimer thing taught us which people watches a variety of different movies, which people exclusively watches serious movies, and which people exclusively watches movies with jokes.
It taught me that we live in a society
it taught me my butt stinks when I doodoo
And the people who watch both
@@kwameoliver2455 Like I said, they're people who watch a variety of different movies.
So deep, bro
As much as I hate a packed cinema, it was amazing to see SO many people enjoying these films and supporting the industry
I think the constant music in Oppenheimer was intentional so the silance during the bomb scene has a more dramatic effect
Well, it didn't work. The overbearing music annoyed me and the bomb scene was such a cocktease
I just love how Oppenheimer made this huge deal about his relationship with Strauss and specifically about the first time the two met only to end the movie essentially saying it didn't really matter at all.
Like, we bookend the film with that scene and Strauss is like "Oppenheimer said something to Einstein that poisoned him against me!" only for the aid he is speaking to say something like "Maybe he didn't mention you at all, maybe what he said to Einstein was actually important." And you can tell it's supposed to be this mic-drop moment when all I could think was yes, Strauss is unimportant. In the grand scheme of things he is just a footnote in history. He and Oppenheimer didn't have a close relationship, he might have set things in motion but he was not wholly responsible for revoking his security clearance, he does not really matter. So why, exactly, did the movie feel the need to dedicate so much time to him? You could cut his character out of the film entirely and I don't think much would change. It doesn't matter who tattled on Oppenheimer, all that matters is the US turned its back on him.
Historically yes. But what many people don't get is that he is basically the _villain_ of the movie. In the classical sense. And that is a brilliant decision on the writers part.
@fernandofaria2872
Personally I don't think the film needed a villain.
"So why, exactly, did the movie feel the need to dedicate so much time to him? You could cut his character out of the film entirely and I don't think much would change."
It's because Strauss was the main reason Oppenheimer was demonized by the political machine. He was the catalyst.
Saying anyone could've been doesn't erase the fact he was. This is a historical film, not fiction.
@@benjamintillema3572 Fair enough, but to me thats like saying "i don't think the film needed a good score" xD
Cuz Robert Downey Jr was playing him lol
Adam, you are Kenough.
One movie involves the nature of power and the consequences of our actions, and the other is about the guy who created the atomic bomb.
I really enjoying doing the double feature myself. I never expected to love a Barbie movie, but I did. And as someone who doesn't love Nolan's movies, I actually liked this one.
I watched in the exact same way and I also have the exact same opinions, lmao. Ryan Gosling is now one of my favorite actors. Also the speech that Strauss gives in the end of Oppenheimer just seemed like a mexican soap opera villain revealing his evil plot, it was so funny and weird, I have no idea why Nolan decided to do that.
I've maintained that Ryan Gosling is underrated as a comedian, and I was thrilled to see him get to be funny more.
Barbie and Oppenheimer releasing together is like Animal Crossing: New Horizons and Doom: Eternal but with movies.
It’s perfectly balanced: A colorful fun adventure clashing with a dark brutal story.
The fact that we’re still gonna get this with Saw Patrol makes it more hilarious 🤣
I'm young, stupid, and haven't honed my critical eye yet so instead of fighting it, I'll just admit Oppenheimer was my favorite movie-going experience ever. I didn't feel the time at all, and I totally bought in to every bit of drama even if it wasn't earned. 10/10 out of pure enjoyment.
You gotta understand Adum isn't really a history buff so when looking at as just a movie I can understand why someone wouldn't be so into it but as a biopic it was pretty fantastic and since I was interested in the subject matter the pacing was super quick for me
How is it possible to be bored in this? It was hard enough to keep up. @@joerosario6624
There’s a bell curve for adums taste. On the one side, you hate his taste because he doesn’t like the movies you like. On the other side, you love his tastes because he hates the movies for the same reasons you do. On the other side, you hate his tastes because you think the reasons he hates certain movies are fucking stupid.
He’s still a good reviewer with conviction tho so it’s always fun to listen.
@@fatuousinnovatorofsadness4640100%
My gf and I have seen quite a few movies and both of us didn’t feel the runtime at all. Loved it.
15:34
You know that ominous feeling, that sudden gut punch of dread when facing true fear and terror?
I had that feeling right then and there
Another few things to note about the whole “Saw Patrol” thing failing is that whoever’s trying to push it didn’t realise that there kind of needs to be an overlap in audiences for it to make sense. It’s not JUST “haha cute thing contrasting dark thing”
Like take Doom and Animal Crossing for instance, you have the contrast in tones there, but then you think about it for two seconds and you realise it’s two highly anticipated games, that had an equal overlap in playerbase.
With Saw Patrol, it’s like, two completely different demographics.
I kinda love how Barbie was able to take a movie made by a corporation to promote a corporate product, and then proceed to use that opportunity to make fun of corporations and consumerism as much as possible. And they can get away with it because it makes the corporation billions of dollars.
Some could call it hypocritical, but I say it's genius
Lego movie did it better
@@UltimateLegoFan324 Both are great movies, no need to compare imo. I don't really think the Lego Movie was as much of a commentary in the way that Barbie was
Yeah it kinda is hypocritical honedtly
@@whatastandupguy3050 How though? The very nature of it being a movie means that the people making it are looking to profit, but that doesn't do anything to the actual story of the movie. It's a silly take. So what, a movie can't criticize consumerism unless it's free to watch?
@@heckingbamboozled8097 💯
Oppenheimer's R rating was completely unjustified in regard to the story. The movie about the father of the atomic bomb didn't need any boobs. The awful trailer-like editing is the first thing you experience and it's very off-putting. It is completely unnecessary and it doesn't let you focus on the dialogue. There are a few great and memorable scenes in this film and none of them are fast paced. Also, I'm not a fan of Nolan's non-linear narrative. He's got films where it totally works like Inception or Memento and then there's Dunkirk. But the main problem is that Nolan overdramatizes everything and tries to make the audience to care about Oppenheimer's security clearance more than the consequences of the creation and use of the atomic bomb.
I was pretty disappointed by Barbie, I didn't find it very funny and the themes felt underdeveloped to me. I was on board with the concept and goals but it never felt as if it did anything that interesting with them. The script also felt pretty messy to me, both in terms of tone and pacing.
I didn't hate it, but I gave it a 6/10. I was hoping in something better.
Still have to watch Oppenheimer, it hasn't come out in my country yet.
the opening bit in Barbie about the audience is why I prefer to go watch a movie in the middle of the week as early as I can
While the constant music did make the film feel almost the same throughout, I found Cillian Murphy to be so reserved that he comes across as blank. It was three hours of a very tense man frequently with pursed lips.
6/10 for Oppenheimer?
Man, normally I agree with your reviews and ratings but this time I couldn’t have a more different opinion. I really loved that movie a lot.
Huh? Any repetition is just the result that it’s telling a real story, any scene about the same thing in a previous scene is just advancing to the conclusion of that idea