Great video! Logic now automatically detects the pitch of a sample in quick sampler, and you can also transpose/fine tune with it as well. Saves a lot of time, but it definitely doesn’t hurt to double check the tuning is correct with FF pro Q Edit: are you sure of the flex time algorithm that the quick sampler defaults to in pitching? It may be better to use this method if the default is slicing
Hey! In my experience the quick sampler doesn’t do a good job with drums, but you’re right about the pitch detection. And yeah, the mono poly flex are actually time stretching (length of sample doesn’t increase or decrease in length related to pitch.) so the only other more would be rhythmic or slice
Cole Hammontree hey man! Yeah pretty much. I mostly use our samples, and they all contain the key info in the name so it’s easier. But there are times when I use other samples and have to figure out the key/pitch
Shane, you always have such great sounding vocal chop melodies! Made me wonder, how would you go about using vocal chops for a prewritten melody? Say you have a melody on midi you really want to use for vocal chops, what would be your process to achieve a good vocal chop sound that way?
I have a question, say i'm working in E Minor and the kick sample is in C should I transpose it up 5 semitones? I feel like the kick would lose a lot of its character then. Great video tho!
Couldn't you turn up the sustain of the kick so it slows down a bit for the tuner to get a better reading. Then tune the kick and readjust the sustain?
SanctumOfTheDin you might have an old version, that pack cake out before we started doing that but have since updated. Can you send me an email to Shane at echosoundworks.com and I’ll get it sorted!
Questions 1-2 Hi I have a tuning problem trying to create sample instruments out of any sound for example I recorded a few bird sounds for the highs and recorded a bell sound for lows and mids at the moment they are all out of tune with themself but I am trying to get them all in tune in a musical note of C so I can start to layer them together 1,How would I approach this ?
Hey Brian! I have another video on the channel where I take a cough or a grunt and turn it into a pad, that might help more than this one. But use a analyzer plug-in like voxengo span to find the pitch then transpose it to c
i sampled a song and after pitch shifting and time stretching, i have no idea what key its in anymore or if the key changes at all? Any help would be much welcomed
Use a plug-in like songkey, autokey, or serato sample. Or you can just play along with any melodic instrument like a piano and find which notes are in tune with the sample.
Tell me if my song is c major my kick has to be in which pitch and snare in which pitch and hihat and Tom 1 Tom 2 and floor Tom tell me in which pitch they have to be and tell me if c minor tell me all those instruments which pitch they have to be and the cymbals tooo
I got a question too: So, I got SPAN downloaded and it's in my Components folder, but it's still not showing in Logic. I've quit Logic multiple times, tried redownloaded SPAN multiple times, restarted my computer multiple times, and it doesn't even show up in my Plug-ins Manager. Any suggestions?
Producers have been tuning acoustic drums to the key of the song for many decades. The thud of the kick and the resonance of the snare and toms all contain a pitch that can be tuned in consonance with the song. It's a subtle effect, but it makes a difference.
@@everonlyallforthee Only they don’t. Not in my 54 years has any drummer I ever worked with done that. And what’s a “producer”? These days that’s anyone who calls themselves that. Lol
@@everonlyallforthee for example on many Steely Dan albums the snare is a sample played by a hardware sampler. The same sample. It’s not retuned from song to song. Every drummer I play with tunes their drums until they sound the way they want. That’s in isolation. They sure don’t retune between songs. And drums have a very limited pitch range once they are at the proper head tension to sound good. Have you actually worked with a drummer?
Logic isn't that complex. It's just different than what you're use to in FL or Ableton. FL is actually a crazy world when you dive deep. It can do things you can't do in Logic
That next step timer is next level! :D
Bruce Nguyen haha glad you like it!
You should make more chill guitar packs!
You are by far my fav to watch. Such a wealth of knowledge and always right to the point!
Joe Alvarez thanks man!! Glad they help
Great video! Logic now automatically detects the pitch of a sample in quick sampler, and you can also transpose/fine tune with it as well. Saves a lot of time, but it definitely doesn’t hurt to double check the tuning is correct with FF pro Q
Edit: are you sure of the flex time algorithm that the quick sampler defaults to in pitching? It may be better to use this method if the default is slicing
Hey! In my experience the quick sampler doesn’t do a good job with drums, but you’re right about the pitch detection.
And yeah, the mono poly flex are actually time stretching (length of sample doesn’t increase or decrease in length related to pitch.) so the only other more would be rhythmic or slice
Nice video...found it extremely useful and learned some news things about Logic I didn't know. Thanks, keep it up! Sub'd.
Thanks for the sub!
I use FL but I still watch You.
You One of the Best TH-cam Tutorial teacher!
Thanks for helping us out
van king appreciate that!!
Dude I was literally looking for a built in Logic tool to do this yesterday and then you posted this video lol. Keep up the great work man!
Brandon Zemel glad it helps! Really wish logic had a better built in spectrum analyzer but at least there’s some free plugins out there that help!
Thank you so much.... never knew I have to tune a kick!!!
Great video Shane! Quick question: Is this something you do for every single track you make! Thanks!
Cole Hammontree hey man! Yeah pretty much. I mostly use our samples, and they all contain the key info in the name so it’s easier. But there are times when I use other samples and have to figure out the key/pitch
Shane, you always have such great sounding vocal chop melodies! Made me wonder, how would you go about using vocal chops for a prewritten melody? Say you have a melody on midi you really want to use for vocal chops, what would be your process to achieve a good vocal chop sound that way?
I'm making a vocal chop tutorial, will be up this week : )
@@EchoSoundWorks Looking forward to it. You really bring a lot of value to music producers like myself.
thanks for the knowledge
Thank you! 🙌
Love the timer!
Really helped , Thank you .
Thanks so much for this!
Keith Owen thanks for watching man!
Great tutorial dude!
It's a great video. I just wish there was a quicker/easier way to do this in LPX.
thanks man
Cool, thanx
thanks
really good video
So in songs with key change- is it usual to re-pitch the drums at that point.?
I have a question, say i'm working in E Minor and the kick sample is in C should I transpose it up 5 semitones? I feel like the kick would lose a lot of its character then. Great video tho!
It depends on the Kick. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Anything over 3 semitones can impact the sound in my experience
Echo Sound Works so your saying i should choose a different kick?
@@oscarchase3022 yes
Couldn't you turn up the sustain of the kick so it slows down a bit for the tuner to get a better reading. Then tune the kick and readjust the sustain?
"We label all of our kicks, all of our snares" Apparently not in your GloFi pack, cause that's why I'm here, lol
SanctumOfTheDin you might have an old version, that pack cake out before we started doing that but have since updated. Can you send me an email to Shane at echosoundworks.com and I’ll get it sorted!
Be nice also if you could link to the plugins you've mentioned.
bobacks adding to the description now! My bad
And how is it with snares, how many semitons can be changed without compromising the original sample (what's your experience here?)
Questions 1-2
Hi I have a tuning problem trying to create sample instruments out of any sound for example I recorded a few bird sounds for the highs and recorded a bell sound for lows and mids at the moment they are all out of tune with themself
but I am trying to get them all in tune in a musical note of C so I can start to layer them together
1,How would I approach this ?
Hey Brian! I have another video on the channel where I take a cough or a grunt and turn it into a pad, that might help more than this one. But use a analyzer plug-in like voxengo span to find the pitch then transpose it to c
I don’t have Melodime what else can I use?@@EchoSoundWorks
Best quality algo for single drums is Speed. Too bad it only supports pitching by stretching the region, and not the transpose value. :(
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You glided over how to the setting in fab filter to grab the key
1:42 before
12:53 after
i sampled a song and after pitch shifting and time stretching, i have no idea what key its in anymore or if the key changes at all? Any help would be much welcomed
Use a plug-in like songkey, autokey, or serato sample. Or you can just play along with any melodic instrument like a piano and find which notes are in tune with the sample.
Tell me if my song is c major my kick has to be in which pitch and snare in which pitch and hihat and Tom 1 Tom 2 and floor Tom tell me in which pitch they have to be and tell me if c minor tell me all those instruments which pitch they have to be and the cymbals tooo
rude
the built in logic tuner sucks lol
So much easier in fl studio
I got a question too: So, I got SPAN downloaded and it's in my Components folder, but it's still not showing in Logic. I've quit Logic multiple times, tried redownloaded SPAN multiple times, restarted my computer multiple times, and it doesn't even show up in my Plug-ins Manager. Any suggestions?
stay tuned lol
too much talk.....
In real life drums are not tuned to pitches. The kick is a thud, not a note. 😁
Producers have been tuning acoustic drums to the key of the song for many decades. The thud of the kick and the resonance of the snare and toms all contain a pitch that can be tuned in consonance with the song. It's a subtle effect, but it makes a difference.
@@everonlyallforthee Only they don’t. Not in my 54 years has any drummer I ever worked with done that. And what’s a “producer”? These days that’s anyone who calls themselves that. Lol
@@everonlyallforthee for example on many Steely Dan albums the snare is a sample played by a hardware sampler. The same sample. It’s not retuned from song to song. Every drummer I play with tunes their drums until they sound the way they want. That’s in isolation. They sure don’t retune between songs. And drums have a very limited pitch range once they are at the proper head tension to sound good. Have you actually worked with a drummer?
@@DavidRavenMoon 👌🏻
its insane how much more complex logic is than ableton or fl. do not make beats on this software dudes
Logic isn't that complex. It's just different than what you're use to in FL or Ableton. FL is actually a crazy world when you dive deep. It can do things you can't do in Logic
SO IS IT C OR C SHARP??? I THINK U HAVE TO CHECK THE LAST CURVE OF THE LEST WHAT IS UR INPUT
FROM THE POINT DOWN I THINK THIS IS C WHAT U THINK???
Very helpful. Thanks!
thanx man
THANKS