Been in an area that got flooded with water whilst I was in there working on a live DB. At the time I thought I was screwed. There's a difference between knowing simple chemistry and remembering it in the moment. The water was clean.
Only failures I am aware of was people not cutting back insulation to the required length, resulting in 50% clamping as rear face of the clamp not used, only the front. Under water contact area should be gastight, only failures I would guess is due to short circuit via liquid. WAGO labs are brilliAnt at investigating cause if possible. I started my Electrical apprenticeship in 1972, most failures occur through loose connections. If terminated correctly that does not happen with WAGO spring force, I spent 28 years educating people who did not read the instructions! 😊they are pretty basic. Some even placed wires into CageClamp without baring conductor, thinking new technology was IDC ☹️. I also worked for Phoenix Contact for 8 years, copper to copper stopped thermal loosening, reakdyne stopped vibration. WAGO eradicates all those issues @wago
@@legominimovieproductions It seems like you're not really grasping the concept of contact resistance. Are you just blindly repeating some marketing garbage?
@@legominimovieproductions The basic concept of leverage does. Look at the travel of the clamping piece in that wago with like half a turn of the screw driver. A screw is nothing but an inclined plane wrapped around a cylinder, and the clamping force applied by it is the equivalent to taking that wedge and pushing it between two surfaces with a force equivalent to the torque being applied to the screwdriver. Obviously, the total force that the spring member in that wago is going to apply is the same as the force required to lift it, and since the equivalent wedge being used has a large angle, that force is going to be miniscule in comparison to any standard screw terminal, with a screw that represents a wedge with a signifigantly more acute angle and the same torque applied by the screwdriver. It's very simple leverage. Any screw terminal is capable of appling clamping forces well in excess of those needed to deform the copper such that the surfaces are in intimate contace, and this wago clearly needs a downright humorous amount of exposed copper to make up for this short coming and still probably falls short because in the long run because of considerations of corrosion due to this sub par contact patch.
Black cable into a blue socket and then brown cable just feel wrong, no clue if it's to code but it feels like blue sockets should only ever have blue neutral cables going to and from it
in the EU blue is an "active" connection. you can run live wire through it and it is still up to code all trained electricians have to check for voltage before touching any blue connection
@@perw12345 WAGO 221 are now common enough to be sold in our big box stores. Unfortunately, buying them retail in person costs about a dollar per connector!
Well to be clear the fancy Din blocks are mostly used in industrial panels... Their use for a house is kinda overkill, even if they allow you to build and wire faster.
@@efixxyou can lock the spring with the orange button. Simply open the connection using the screwdriver, then push the orange button and release the screwdriver. Then insert the conductor and twist the screwdriver counterclockwise again. The orange button will pop out and release the spring.
То, что не луженое со временем окислиться и выйдет из строя, медь является коррозийным материалом, при контакте с оцинкованными деталями есть гальваническая пара. Что сказать о людях, которые слабые в образовании.
@@user-ik5jh2ky9mthe contact area is under auch high pressure that there is no oxygen between the copper wire and the tinned conductor inside the terminal block. This only becomes a problem when you clamp oxidized copper into the terminal block...but one simply should not do that. If every copper wire was tinned, the world would be a better place for travelling electrons, but this is not the case. Yet they manage to travel.
Those are the worst! I do industrial maintenance and these always fail and you can't get them back in. Management wants to know why hooking up a set of wires takes 30 minutes instead of 30 seconds. These always strip and the ones we have are suposed to take clutch bits that no one ever has. Bring back my old philpis screw lugs that acctually reliably worked for 60 plus years!
I had a bad experience with early spring cage terminals that resulted in several thousand DIN terminals being replaced. Thankfully, the current ones are a lot better, and I'm comfortable using them, just please make sure you get all the strands in the things when you terminate!
@@dasmazelp9401 I find them sometimes difficult to open, and release the cables once inserted. Some of the better quality ones do accept the ferruled cables being pushed in, but I have had a few that don't, then there is a stressy commisioner moaning at you!!!!
Just finished a couple of industrial panel builds here that used almost 100 feet of din rail. These are cool. I use an electric torque screw driver when I do my wiring though so they all are torque spec'ed for the size of the terminal, power supply, fuse box, breaker etc. Im guessing these are used for residential builds? Pretty neat stuff though.
There are already terminals for DIN Rail that dont have to have the conductors screwed down, the are opened by inserting a flathead screwdriver into one slot, insert the wire, remove the screwdriver and the wire is held in place.. The also make screw down type terminals also and those are more common
These WAGOs are that type. The driver was used to push against the spring. with the Orange button you can latch the spring after tensioning into the open position.
This Wago clamps do you can buy in the European Union since over 10 years. The colours are yellow/green, blue, and grey. Do you can marked the grey clamps with brown or black (for L1 or L2) or with L1 till L3 markers. The extra over them be for cables from 0.75 mm² till 2.5 mm² - after the big clamps love 6 till 35 mm² only. It is for the main lines after the power companys border. The smaller parts are for lights, power connectors, or measure equipment inside the street cabinets or border cabinets from power company into your own company. Normally European Union houses use 63/64 ampere but big companies or charching points or circus/flea markets need 125 ampere at every three phase - what exactly match 35 mm². 😳 Why the UK didn't know them? They are for exactly one connector at every size. They use a hex screwdriver - do you can buy one self or from WAGO company with a t-grip for your hands. One WAGO clamp costs only around 15 €, but WAGO sell 15 pices into one package only. The number is WAGO 285, for every how not see it in the video. 😂
@@efixx WAGO supply the 285-172 and 285-173 hex-driver / allen key specifically for the 285 series of terminals. This video even shows a Hex -driver being used to open the terminal
@@efixx To the uninitiated it may look like a normal screwdriver, to those who pay attention, the tool used to open the larger cable clamp is clearly Hexagonal
Some of these devices seem toy like in their composition. Even dimmer switches, they look child friendly, the wiring and how they work, simplified and safe proofed to the point it seems toy like
@@darcijr09: If you're requiring a sleeve of some sort directly on the wire, then you can get a better crimp than the spring in this thing will be able to get, particularly since you need to be able to get that spring open to use the connector. Connecting to the sleeve afterwards? Well, I'll leave that to others, but certainly you'll be able to get a better connection to the wire outside of this connector.
AFAIK, Spring clamp terminals - like this one - don't need them, even on stranded cable. You can use ferrules if you want, but then it maaaay not fit...
You dont want to put ferrules in a spring clamp terminal. even solid core wires are a bad idea. they dont exert enough pressure to make propper contact and can heat up possibly even catch fire under high current applications.
We use them on compressors that are built in Europe but sold in US. They don’t last that long, they confuse electricians, they make for “easy” connections, and to tell you the truth I don’t mind using them.
Whats the name: I need some Wagos for 50mm² and 80mm" and other Options are not as good (hydraulic press and screw terminals, but you have an open screw and I like to isolate as much a possible.
Why all these weird shapes though! I wonder if we are heading to times where there's preferred styles for every next different season? Don't get me wrong, I DO think it looks wonderful and beautiful.
The top wago extension is crap... try that when its finished and replace it because the wire is broken or smth else... the cable canal are for sure in the way... why did they not make the screw driver input at the top?
Had to trouble shoot a ~2 year old cnc brake press machine that had these type of connectors for main power. Wire slipped out on one of the phases barely making contact causing intermittent problems. Not a fan of these things.
@@djilu9916 The problem I see with these type of connections is they rely on spring tension and what ever spring tension you have when new is the most spring tension you will ever have. Springs don’t get stronger over time. In the case I talked about above, the wire came up from under the connection so there was some weight of the wire on the connection and with the vibrations of an operating machine then gravity wins out at the end of the day. I’ve seen plenty of other machines with set screw style connections with a lot more wire weight on them and can handle that weight.
@@MrSleepProductionsInc there shouldn't be any wire weight on connectors. if someone has installed wagos with static pull on them, they've installed it wrong :)
@@djilu9916: Ok, so what is your suggestion for moving that weight away from the Wago? Do you have such a suggestion? Because even just the wire alone _will_ have some weight.
@@absalomdraconis atleast where I live its mandatory to have such connections inside elelctrical boxes(?) I don't know the proper english term, that has "hooks" for the wire to go around to avoid any static pull on the connectors
This is a product is either aimed at electricians who don't seem to have any tools, or it's aimed at home gamers doing illegal electrical work. Bad ethics and hastily planned business model aside, what are the legal ramifications of this?
Seen those fail…. But they had been under water live for several hours
Must have been a big 💥
Loooool😂😂😂
Been in an area that got flooded with water whilst I was in there working on a live DB.
At the time I thought I was screwed.
There's a difference between knowing simple chemistry and remembering it in the moment.
The water was clean.
Only failures I am aware of was people not cutting back insulation to the required length, resulting in 50% clamping as rear face of the clamp not used, only the front. Under water contact area should be gastight, only failures I would guess is due to short circuit via liquid. WAGO labs are brilliAnt at investigating cause if possible. I started my Electrical apprenticeship in 1972, most failures occur through loose connections. If terminated correctly that does not happen with WAGO spring force, I spent 28 years educating people who did not read the instructions! 😊they are pretty basic. Some even placed wires into CageClamp without baring conductor, thinking new technology was IDC ☹️. I also worked for Phoenix Contact for 8 years, copper to copper stopped thermal loosening, reakdyne stopped vibration. WAGO eradicates all those issues @wago
There are waterproof WAGO connectors.
USA electricians be like 🤯
US electricians be like, "that's on a wooden backboard. if it does fail, you've got a fire."
more like 😂
@@kenbrown2808actually - normal electricians everywhere. Installation on a flammable surface is strictly prohibited.
@@kenbrown2808you do realise it won't be fitted straight to that ? You Americans with timber houses giving us fire advice is funny 😂😂.
@@jayjolley9258 yeah, just like Icelanders giving fishing advice is funny. I mean, why would you go to someone who has experience for advice?
It looks like playing with a battle builders toy set.
They dont need a crimping tool! Saves time and hardware.
and gives improved contact resistances with a service-free connection
@@legominimovieproductions It seems like you're not really grasping the concept of contact resistance. Are you just blindly repeating some marketing garbage?
@@AtlasReburdened I do know and understand the way it works very well, so what makes you think that its just marketing
@@legominimovieproductions The basic concept of leverage does. Look at the travel of the clamping piece in that wago with like half a turn of the screw driver. A screw is nothing but an inclined plane wrapped around a cylinder, and the clamping force applied by it is the equivalent to taking that wedge and pushing it between two surfaces with a force equivalent to the torque being applied to the screwdriver. Obviously, the total force that the spring member in that wago is going to apply is the same as the force required to lift it, and since the equivalent wedge being used has a large angle, that force is going to be miniscule in comparison to any standard screw terminal, with a screw that represents a wedge with a signifigantly more acute angle and the same torque applied by the screwdriver. It's very simple leverage. Any screw terminal is capable of appling clamping forces well in excess of those needed to deform the copper such that the surfaces are in intimate contace, and this wago clearly needs a downright humorous amount of exposed copper to make up for this short coming and still probably falls short because in the long run because of considerations of corrosion due to this sub par contact patch.
@@AtlasReburdened At least your comment showed me that you never held a wago in your hands and know nothing about the internal design.
That's a nice WAGO catalog you got there lol
Black cable into a blue socket and then brown cable just feel wrong, no clue if it's to code but it feels like blue sockets should only ever have blue neutral cables going to and from it
In the USA we use white for neutral wires.
in the EU blue is an "active" connection. you can run live wire through it and it is still up to code
all trained electricians have to check for voltage before touching any blue connection
@@immo1337rtal in electrican school in finland we were told to put tape on both ends of the blue cable to mark it as "live wire"
UK blue=neutral,brown=line,green/yellow=ground
It also depends on color. Dark blue is used for +24V while light blue is neutral for 230V. In Germany for example.
You know its so funny, there are so many of these very fancy useful terminal block technologies, and yet i aint ever seen them actually used.
These things have been around for decades here in europe, every electrician I know swears by the regular WAGO 221.
In NA you mostly see wire nuts.
Cost too much over the standard stuff we have been using.
@@perw12345 WAGO 221 are now common enough to be sold in our big box stores. Unfortunately, buying them retail in person costs about a dollar per connector!
Are you referring to these fancy DIN blocks vs the standard stuff or WAGO vs wire nuts?
Well to be clear the fancy Din blocks are mostly used in industrial panels... Their use for a house is kinda overkill, even if they allow you to build and wire faster.
You can hold open the cable terminal by pushing the orange button
Not on this version - it’s a very powerful spring.
@@efixxyou can lock the spring with the orange button. Simply open the connection using the screwdriver, then push the orange button and release the screwdriver. Then insert the conductor and twist the screwdriver counterclockwise again. The orange button will pop out and release the spring.
То, что не луженое со временем окислиться и выйдет из строя, медь является коррозийным материалом, при контакте с оцинкованными деталями есть гальваническая пара. Что сказать о людях, которые слабые в образовании.
@@user-ik5jh2ky9mthe contact area is under auch high pressure that there is no oxygen between the copper wire and the tinned conductor inside the terminal block. This only becomes a problem when you clamp oxidized copper into the terminal block...but one simply should not do that.
If every copper wire was tinned, the world would be a better place for travelling electrons, but this is not the case. Yet they manage to travel.
Not a fan of the multi-strand cable
I can't tell the design with all the quick cuts and closeup shots 🤷
modern day videos for short attention span people
Those are the worst! I do industrial maintenance and these always fail and you can't get them back in. Management wants to know why hooking up a set of wires takes 30 minutes instead of 30 seconds. These always strip and the ones we have are suposed to take clutch bits that no one ever has. Bring back my old philpis screw lugs that acctually reliably worked for 60 plus years!
It’s like Legos with wires!
i like this ones, they are powerful. i don't feel the other ones, when you use pins, are strong enough to get enough surface connections.
Переходник на переходник 😂
Интересно сколько проработают эти переходники?
Если увеличить число разъёмных соединений в проводке до 10 - точно будет надёжнее 😂
Slava Ukraine!
Дак это обслуживаемое) рейка заземлена, что этому в щите будет, не синяя изолента, конечно😂
@@ruzziasht349соболезную...
I had a bad experience with early spring cage terminals that resulted in several thousand DIN terminals being replaced.
Thankfully, the current ones are a lot better, and I'm comfortable using them, just please make sure you get all the strands in the things when you terminate!
Have started seeing these push fit connections appearing in BMS panels. Don't like them. Prefer to ferrule my cables and screw connectors.
Why exactly do you not like them?
if i May ask?
@@dasmazelp9401 I find them sometimes difficult to open, and release the cables once inserted. Some of the better quality ones do accept the ferruled cables being pushed in, but I have had a few that don't, then there is a stressy commisioner moaning at you!!!!
i don't want this garbage anywhere near a bms panel
@@jonhunter8737Can you make a video on your technique. I am curious as I'm not an electrician
That wire stripper was sp satisfying to watch
We use about 50/50 Phoenix UT and ST (screw terminal and spring terminal in respect), as a technician they both have their pros and cons when wiring
Just finished a couple of industrial panel builds here that used almost 100 feet of din rail. These are cool. I use an electric torque screw driver when I do my wiring though so they all are torque spec'ed for the size of the terminal, power supply, fuse box, breaker etc. Im guessing these are used for residential builds? Pretty neat stuff though.
Yaa those are pretty wicked, I’ve used them on quite a few of my PLC projects.
Splendid! Best of the both worlds.
That looks sick asf
There are already terminals for DIN Rail that dont have to have the conductors screwed down, the are opened by inserting a flathead screwdriver into one slot, insert the wire, remove the screwdriver and the wire is held in place.. The also make screw down type terminals also and those are more common
These exist, but not for wires that big. The spring needed to put enough pressure on the conductor wouldnt be very easy to press in...
These WAGOs are that type.
The driver was used to push against the spring. with the Orange button you can latch the spring after tensioning into the open position.
THANK YOU for taking words out of my mouth. These services are getting scammy.
Wago are here in Australia but I don’t use their products. IMO, you can’t beat the good old twisting of cables and screw connectors.
That's an incredible amount of set up when you could just wire nut
Крутые клеммники! А на какую мощность они рассчитаны?
This Wago clamps do you can buy in the European Union since over 10 years. The colours are yellow/green, blue, and grey. Do you can marked the grey clamps with brown or black (for L1 or L2) or with L1 till L3 markers.
The extra over them be for cables from 0.75 mm² till 2.5 mm² - after the big clamps love 6 till 35 mm² only. It is for the main lines after the power companys border. The smaller parts are for lights, power connectors, or measure equipment inside the street cabinets or border cabinets from power company into your own company. Normally European Union houses use 63/64 ampere but big companies or charching points or circus/flea markets need 125 ampere at every three phase - what exactly match 35 mm². 😳
Why the UK didn't know them? They are for exactly one connector at every size. They use a hex screwdriver - do you can buy one self or from WAGO company with a t-grip for your hands. One WAGO clamp costs only around 15 €, but WAGO sell 15 pices into one package only. The number is WAGO 285, for every how not see it in the video. 😂
285 doesn’t take a hex driver.
@@efixx WAGO supply the 285-172 and 285-173 hex-driver / allen key specifically for the 285 series of terminals.
This video even shows a Hex -driver being used to open the terminal
The “operating tool” for this version looks suspiciously like a screwdriver 🪛 www.wago.com/gb/tools/operating-tool/p/210-721
@@efixx To the uninitiated it may look like a normal screwdriver, to those who pay attention, the tool used to open the larger cable clamp is clearly Hexagonal
Mmm... perfectly melted plastic 😂
Some of these devices seem toy like in their composition. Even dimmer switches, they look child friendly, the wiring and how they work, simplified and safe proofed to the point it seems toy like
I have no clue what’s going on but I’m happy to be here :)
what in the electro-Legos am i watching?!!
It's the future.... I expect the US to catch us in say 50 years.
Most chaotic edit
it should be called a LAGO terminal, thats way cool
Never heard of it, something new??😮
If IKEA made electrical supplies... 😅😅
Well, sorry to break it to you, but those types of connectors are available in Europe for at least 15 years.bFor both industrial and residential use.
Wait you just stick those cables in with no terminal ends? They're gonna eventually slip out in time with vibrations and heat.
I read a WACO terminal and thought this would be a very different video.
Have to say a like the piggy back option though have a feeling it could get silly if loads can be stacked in. Ideal for common neutrals etc
whoooa i have no idea whats going on here but its so coool
The Wago-Lego collab
Interesting. I used to sell these and I secretly had no idea how they worked or what they did, lol.
Nobody does
Dude i was literally just wondering if they had din rail products
You know I work for eaton and i've been trying to figure out what this shit is for😂😂😂
Gotta love how there's a warning not to _stick your finger in an electrical connector._ Human stupidity truly has no bounds.
That’s pretty cool. I have no idea what’s going on.
in Russia, this cannot be done, stranded wires must be crimped with a sleeve
Even on spring clamp connectors, such as this one? 😮
@@darcijr09: If you're requiring a sleeve of some sort directly on the wire, then you can get a better crimp than the spring in this thing will be able to get, particularly since you need to be able to get that spring open to use the connector. Connecting to the sleeve afterwards? Well, I'll leave that to others, but certainly you'll be able to get a better connection to the wire outside of this connector.
That's interesting, I thought in Russia they put their cables in the ass. Not for installation, just because vodka and blyat
@@Matthew_Removeafterwashingi thought in USA you put your cables in cousins, because of Alabama and Incests
@@Matthew_Removeafterwashing bruh..
Love this
Man every channel doing the ASMR thing. Kinda getting old
ASMR never gets old.
It's been weird from the start.
@@tekknorat We don't need to know about your fetishes, teufel.
That hacker name is "George"
Yeah whenever I see UK or EU related electric work it just makes me feel like its the 1800s over here in the US haha
Waygo!!!! It’ll hold for 1 year then you can just pull out the wire !
I can already see some dingus using the yellow/green connector and accidentally electrify the entire DIN rail...
Ha! that's an easy one. Thw next bigger one needs an Alan key!
A bit like playing Lego or Tetris, isn't it?
What no ferrules?
For what?
AFAIK, Spring clamp terminals - like this one - don't need them, even on stranded cable. You can use ferrules if you want, but then it maaaay not fit...
You dont want to put ferrules in a spring clamp terminal. even solid core wires are a bad idea. they dont exert enough pressure to make propper contact and can heat up possibly even catch fire under high current applications.
Getting some popcorn so I can sit down and watch the comment battle
What driver is used here? Whatever it was looked pretty chunky
Tbf its just a rail connector or what we call them in Poland "Zugi"
Keep stacking the plastic~
Perfect 👌
Awesome, I didn't know Legos build these
For screw one you should use sleeve.
We use them on compressors that are built in Europe but sold in US. They don’t last that long, they confuse electricians, they make for “easy” connections, and to tell you the truth I don’t mind using them.
Aber ist das dann zulässig mit dem kleineren Querschnitt als die Zuleitung ohne Versicherung weiter zufahren?
Hey Sparky, be sure to sweep up all your plastic mess before you leave this site. Ya hear?
Do they have wago for high current dc applications?
Phoenix ST35 is the same size, but push in. The force required to fully open it is... uhm... substantial.
💪
Electric ASMR
Whats the name: I need some Wagos for 50mm² and 80mm" and other Options are not as good (hydraulic press and screw terminals, but you have an open screw and I like to isolate as much a possible.
En mi pueblo se sigue pelando cables con las manos y empalmando con los dedos, eso sí, últimamente usan algo de cinta aislante
Iska Chota Bhai Emotional ho gya
Good lord if i took that long on control panels id never get it done lol. Just land the wire bro.
He's doing it for the video. Just chill ya nut.
I mean that's din rail, use that for controls in the US
These are called screw terminals, which have been a thing for several decades.
No, they are spring loaded, you only pull back the spring by turning.
Why all these weird shapes though! I wonder if we are heading to times where there's preferred styles for every next different season? Don't get me wrong, I DO think it looks wonderful and beautiful.
I dont like people who try to open them with a flathead when you need a clutch bit to open them
Dang that two tone marbled plastic😮
Camo version
reminds me of an HP cartridge!
You know what also only needs a screwdriver?...
Literally every fucking screw terminal ever, and they come with better contact resistance.
Lol push the orange button in its easier😉
What is the blue piece name?
So not a WAGO, just an ordinary Din rail connector
what is that rotary stripping tool?
The future.
The top wago extension is crap... try that when its finished and replace it because the wire is broken or smth else... the cable canal are for sure in the way... why did they not make the screw driver input at the top?
What kind of Lego is this?
why blue and not Grey like most non neutral din Rail terminals?
Многожильный кабель и без клеммы?
Там на сколько Ньютон пружина?
Simplesmente genial 🤪
Had to trouble shoot a ~2 year old cnc brake press machine that had these type of connectors for main power. Wire slipped out on one of the phases barely making contact causing intermittent problems. Not a fan of these things.
improperly installed then, never seen a wago fail myself.. most of the time its when the stripped length is too short
@@djilu9916 The problem I see with these type of connections is they rely on spring tension and what ever spring tension you have when new is the most spring tension you will ever have. Springs don’t get stronger over time. In the case I talked about above, the wire came up from under the connection so there was some weight of the wire on the connection and with the vibrations of an operating machine then gravity wins out at the end of the day. I’ve seen plenty of other machines with set screw style connections with a lot more wire weight on them and can handle that weight.
@@MrSleepProductionsInc there shouldn't be any wire weight on connectors. if someone has installed wagos with static pull on them, they've installed it wrong :)
@@djilu9916: Ok, so what is your suggestion for moving that weight away from the Wago? Do you have such a suggestion? Because even just the wire alone _will_ have some weight.
@@absalomdraconis atleast where I live its mandatory to have such connections inside elelctrical boxes(?) I don't know the proper english term, that has "hooks" for the wire to go around to avoid any static pull on the connectors
Looks far too complicated for the average DIY Dave to figure out
If someone is DIYing at this power 💥
Dude, the instructions are literally written on the Thing 😂
Like a little Lego. ©
Electrician in Lego world? Wtf
You put RTX 3089 in a Windows 7 PC
This is a product is either aimed at electricians who don't seem to have any tools, or it's aimed at home gamers doing illegal electrical work. Bad ethics and hastily planned business model aside, what are the legal ramifications of this?
T-Rex tape
Idk wtf I’m looking at but it looks interesting(?)
If you can use legos, you can now be an electrician. Not.
Legos for smart people 😂
All go on a open board or on a plank o wood but in real life in some pannels ive had to deal with no good