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Dianthas potential as a trainer is actually insane, out of all the trainers in the masters 8 she’s the one who is without a doubt the most busy and the one with the least amount of time to train cause of her packed schedule, and yet she still managed to make it to the top 4 in the world.imagine if she only focused on battling full time
@@laxusstrauss5945An actress is still far more occupied by other people than an archaeologist so she's very likely to have much less time for her to train
@@nishantdayama4558 and archeology is more like a hobby for Cynthia something she does for fun and can easily get out of anytime, not like acting where you have a packed strict schedule your forced to follow.
This should have been the masters 8 schedule Ep115: Ceremony Ep116: Alain vs Leon Ep117: Diantha vs Lance Ep118: Iris vs Cynthia Ep119: Ash vs Steven Ep120: Ash vs Lance (Practice) Ep121: Diantha vs Steven (Practice) Ep122-124: Diantha vs Leon (half of ep124 being battle, other Cynthia backstory) Ep125-127: Ash vs Cynthia Ep128: Goh says bye bye Ep129-132: Ash vs Leon
The writers would never spend an entire episode in the proper full six on six battle that doesn't include Ash, let alone 2 or 3 episodes, for example Paul vs Cynthia was supposdly a full battle but cynthia only uses her Garchomp and defeat 4 of Paul's pokemon with one hit each and the battle last's only 5-6 minutes
@@infinityalbi9840 in anime canon none of them except Ash were tough. Alain was very powerful and he could indeed match Steven so you are accurate but he also lost to elite four members. Iris took a major leap offscreen.
I like the full circle of Ash losing in Kanto with the Pikachu v Charizard match to turn it around and win the World Championship with a Pikachu V Charizard
This was obviously a crazy arc as it was but the fact they included alain only to have him get smacked by leon, rather than a rematch between charizard and greninja was foul
Mega gardevoir is just....Yaasssss queen....my most favourite mega ever....and yes when ever there was mega gardevoir present my screen looked elegent and majestic
Also fun fact. The Diantha vs Lance episode was originally suppose to come out June 24th. But was changed to 1 week later. June 24th is the same date the lighthouse episode was aired, featuring a huge dragonite. 25 years apart
Top 5 battles of Masters 8 :- 5) Lance vs Diantha (some of fastest pokemon in anime forgot to dodge attacks) 4)Iris vs Cynthia (final battle was peak but I didn't like how they treated other pokemons) 3) Lance vs Leon previous edition final (now that's difference b/w normal and champion level pokemon) 2) Ash vs Cynthia (perfect conclusion but why garchomp didn't have any effective moves vs Lucario) 1) Ash vs Leon (that day when entire world was watching together all social media platforms that feeling can't be surpassed)
Hot take: ash's team in this was, in all honesty, kinda ass. Besides Pikachu and gengar he really didn't have any og pokemon of his which heavily disappointed me. No charizard (which I can understand they didn't want 3 different charizards) but like...why no infernape? No greninja? I feel like he should have has pokemon from across his journey yet we got...this team.
@@sammicallef6291Lucario would've been good if it had enough screen time. Instead they gave it to Chloe and it basically became Walmart Greninja furry
@@gaiusx287 yeah but at least he didn't go down like a rookie the way Alain and Diantha did against Leon, and he did hold a strong lead against Diantha for most of the battle
My takes on all of these fights: Leon vs Alain: Terrible. How alain lost here was unacceptable. He should have been pushing leon way more considering how strong he is for someone who's not a champion Lance vs Diantha: Choreography wise it was meh but both sides had awesome strategies. Better than the first battle by a large margin Cynthia vs Iris: I am no fan of iris but journeys at least made me respect her a bit compared to how nuch of brat she was in unova. Iris definitely showed why she was a champ with how well she did against Cynthia. They were practically even from the start. Cynthia obviously won but i'll give iris an A for effort Ash vs Steven. Aside from the Cradily portions, this battle wasn't great. Especially when it comes to Pikachu vs Mega Metagross. Ash should have figured out a way to slow Metagross down so he could then land some hits BEFORE using the Z Move Leon vs Diantha: TRASH!! Idk if Leon or the writers have a problem with Kalos but him disrespecting Diantha was inexcusable. After Diantha redeemed herself in a lot of fans' eyed against lance, she looks like a newbie against leon. Two knockouts out of six is disgraceful Ash vs Cynthia: Honestly Cynthia should have used mega evolution but aside from that, this battle was INCREDIBLE!! We wanted to see Ash take on Cynthia for so long and this battle really delivered. Lucario and Pikachu carried the fight but Sirfetch'd put in quite a bit of work, especially against Garchomp. It was so satisfying to see Ash get the win here Ash vs Lepn: Peak PERFECTION!! Not only did ash win but the battlw itself had so much crazy sction, clean animation, and hype moments that kept me on rhe edge of my seat. Plus that pikachu vs Charizard finale, was, EPIC!!!
During Diantha VS Leon, Leon took all 4 diantha's pokemon in offscreen because of the plot. Ash's Rival in the journey series is Leon, so I think it was early to reveal Leon's pokemon until they were matched up with ash.
@@muhammadkhizer6415 pretty dumb honestly They had the first two battles to make certain team members jobbers, this time they should have given everyone a KO Sirfetch'd could have beaten Rilaboom, Dracovish could have beaten Cinderace, and the rest of the KOs could be the same
@@muhammadkhizer6415 yeah... For me that's not really enough. If they were going to make someone fodder to Rilaboom it could have been dracovish instead while sirfetch'd could have beaten it Plus at least it would put both of them at a solid win rate of 50 percent
In his battle against Cynthia it would be epic if Ash used Infernape instead of Sircfetd, Ash had Lucario another fighting type but he didn't had a fire type and Infernape is the only Champion level pokemon Ash had in the Sinnoh Region, Infernape Also could have defeated Milotic and Gave serious damage in cynthia's garchomp and get some revenge in his first battle vs cynthia's garchop when he was only a chimchar
@@videos43334dhdjj774h that’s cool but Sirfetch’d is 1. My personal favorite Journeys Pokémon so sidelining it will not get me on your side and 2. My second favorite Ash Pokémon period, and #1 is not Infernape so I am not with you.
After masters eight, my love for diantha went through the roof. The way she defeated lance and the way she was shown in semi finals, she did her best and never backed down. She has vast knowledge about Pokemon battling , moves , abilities and things like that. Her gardevior is the best.
It's Gourgeist, not Pumpkaboo! Also, I will agree with you that Ash vs Leon was on a whole other level, complete with an action-packed four episodes and plenty of excitement to go around. It really shows how far Ash has come since the XY series, where he literally fainted along with Greninja because of the unfortunate outcome of the finals of the Kalos League. I mean, why could they possibly not have treated our boy Ash, who is the MAIN CHARACTER of this anime series, with a little more respect and generosity? If he had won both the Kalos League and the Alola League, he'd have flown home on that second plane with two League wins and an extra title AND a victory against Kukui to his name. Ash vs Cynthia was another piece of cinema. The way Ash relies heavily on the bond between him and Lucario, and the Aura they share, to get them through Cynthia's last two mons, combined with how Pikachu took down GASTRODON and SPIRITOMB, despite the former being a Ground type, really makes this battle worth it. The only bad thing about this battle is how Dragonite and Gengar each missed their own KOs in this battle, but they really make that up in the next one. ALSO: why did you say Dragonite had a bit of a cold streak when she only lost to Cynthia's Spiritomb due to a combination of Hypnosis and Dream Eater? EDIT: When you see Ash take his hat off, which rarely happens even if he is using 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt, you know the battle's about to get to a whole other level. The exact same thing happens when he touches his Key Stone to Mega Evolve Lucario or even recalls his Gengar only to Gigantamax it seconds later.
Call me crazy, but I would’ve loved to have seen Ash face of against Lance since (correct me if I’m wrong) both Ash and Lance have history together since Lance is the champion of Jhoto and a Kanto Elite 4 member and they’ve fought together in the past. It would’ve been fun to see happen.
Cynthia D-maxing kinda makes sence from a POV of Cynthia. Her Garchomp took major damage agianst KAMON/Sirfetch'd, and Lucario begun to counter alot of togekiss strategies. Also Cynthia is known for using unpredictable strategies, and D-maxing is something NOONE expected. Mega Lucario and Mega garchomp would be AMAZING to watch, but honestly... I see a good reason for Cynthia not to do it
Garchomp got to rest between rounds so it's not like she wouldn't gain some stamina back Besides Cynthia dynamaxing just makes her having a mega evolution pointless since why use it against iris to hype up her battle with ash more in the first place
I think she saw Ash was expecting her to Mega Evolve Garchomp and decided to throw a curve ball at him to keep him off guard. I think people would've taken a lot more kindly to that it Dynamax Togekiss had done... anything instead of just getting defeated by Mega Lucario. If it defeated Kamon or Dracovish or even maybe Baton Passed an omni-boost from a move like Ancient Power to Garchomp (like Zac suggested), I think people wouldn't have minded that much.
Personal opinion but the victory would've felt much more sweet if either lean used more then one gimmick as well to match ash or ash say no and match Leon with one gimmick but don't get me wrong am still very happy with how it turned out
Iris vs cynthia is the only good battle in the first round. one reason is because we have known iris and it was emotional when she starting crying. it also let us know how far she's come to the point where she was doing really well vs cynthia until the lipstick was flipped and cynthia took the W
@@thatboyminus wait wait wait... steel resists flying? I didn't know that. I'm not surprised about the fact that Lucario's Steel typing negates the Fighting type's weakness against Fairy-type moves, but I am surprised at what I just found out only seconds ago.
I hate the gigantamax gimmick among all gimmicks but I gotta admit I was so surprised and a little pumped that Cynthia's wildcard against Ash was g-max togekiss. So surprising to say the least!
I still think we got robbed of a pretty epic Steven vs Alain match but that's just me. I'd have been okey with them having Diantha bite the dust against Leon here and Ash battling his home region's champion Lance. Than they could basically keep everything the same with the exception of Steven or Alain replacing Diantha in the semi finale.
The battle we were actually robbed of was the rematch between ash and Alain that honestly should have been the first match of the masters 8 but that’s just my opinion
@@mattsultimategamingandrevi8249 personally I feel that is understandable since we got that pretty recentely in X and Y. Ash vs Iris would be cool, but maybe they could have given Ash and Alain a battle before the masters eight (if they weren't planning on having Ash battle him there)
Tbh Diantha vs Alain would have been better. They're right next to each other in the rankings and Alain might actually prove to be a worthy successor to Diantha
I would've loved for the anime to have Alain bring back his Bisharp and introduce it as a gen 9 tease Kingambit. They couldve introduced its ability and its move Kowtow Cleave so that Alain couldve at least not gotten swept.
The way that battle went, I feel like Ash should not have beaten Leon. also Leon vs Allon should have been mega vs dinamax, like in the Kallos League where it was mega versus mega.
The big problem I had with the Master's 8 were the matchups. I really hoped that Ash would go against Alain in the first round and redeem himself for loosing. That would have been a perfect way to start the tournament and be a meaningful win for Ash, but it didn't happen😑.
I hear you, but unless we already knew Alain was in the Masters 8 before Ash reunited with greninja, or greninja could just somehow show up at Wyndon Stadium unexpectedly, idk how they would be able to give us the rematch we deserved without leaving the fans unsatisfied The only other opponent that made sense for Ash to face in Round 1 would have been Lance since they have a bit of history, and it would be cool to see Ash not only beat the strongest trainer in his home region, but also the runner up in the last WCS season. Plus the promotional images we got for the Masters 8 did seem to hint at them battling, and honestly, I would have been fine with it. It could also give Ash's Dragonite a chance to shine and break her losing streak early and come on, how do U not wanna see Ash's and Lance's Dragonite duke it out? As for Alain, let him battle Diantha instead. Only one Kalos representative would have gone through the first round anyway and look at it this way. Alain and Diantha are right next to each other in the rankings, so it's not like there's a vast difference of power between them. I could potentially see Alain doing extremely well and holding a lead for the majority of the battle, but still losing to the Kalos champ with dignity. It could show that Alain has what it takes to be a potential successor to Diantha and given he wants to be the strongest, that's a route I could see the writers taking him down That only leaves Leon to face Steven in round 1, and here's my reasoning for it. We never got to see any of the top 3 trainers in the masters eight duke it out so here's a good opportunity for that. We could even see some great strats from both sides like Rilaboom having high horsepower as steel coverage and using acrobatics both to attack and dodge, Steven using Cradily's tentacles to his advantage to ensnare and attack opponents, Leon using Dragapult's dragon tail to force switches and catch Steven off guard, Steven using Mega Metagross's unbelievable speed and heightened awareness to his advantage to leave Leon's Charizard struggling to even land a move, Steven turning Gmax Wildfire back on Charizard with psychic, and Leon using Max Airstream at least twice to get fast enough to land hits on Metagross
@eljordinio7647 Wow, now I would actually like to see Leon vs. Steven. The matcheups of Diantha vs. Alain and Ash vs. Lance would have accepted too. I wanted Ash for the Masters 8 to use his old Pokemon and his new team for the final against Leon. I wouldn't accept Ash vs. Alain without Greninja. Ash vs. Cynthia was pretty good, but why give us that image in D&P of Infernape vs. Garchomp if they weren't going to give it to us!😫
This guy is being too generous with the rankings. Here's my ranking: Alain vs Leon, Diantha vs Leon, and Steven vs Ash are all F TIER! Just terrible! I want those battles to be reanimated again.
I'd have liked to see another reason WHY Diantha lost to Leon, other than the fact that both Ash and Leon are working hard so that they can face each other in the finals.
I had just watched the final episode and I realized that pikachu tapped into a brand new ability no Pokémon can tap into alone it’s like the bond between your Pokémon must so strong death can’t break it and I wanna kinda call Limitless Bond is what it’s called and only when your bond is so strong with a Pokémon then it can be called forth and its from our knowledge still incredibly hard to tap into
I would most definitely not be surprised if that was an actual Ability in the games, my friend. Limitless Bond could automatically activate itself when your Pokemon reaches low HP in a battle and make it become nearly impossible to defeat, and when I say low HP, I mean IN THE RED low HP.
Iris still would have lost. Tbh, it is weird that everyone wasn't given a DMax band. Cynthia could have Dmaxed in the first round then Mega-Evo in the second.
not really, haxorus got one shot, even tho it doesnt look like, he blocked milotic disarming voice and hydro pump, outrage countered draco meteor, and dragon was stopped by psycho cut, only the last draco meteor hited, not really THAT close
@@christabelowusu-sekyere348 nope iris still wouldve lost. Cynthia only mega evolved to match iris's determination. The entire battle showed that while iris has gotten stronger she still has a long way to go before being on Cynthias level.
@@indifference1015yeah, like I'll give journeys props for making iris an actual force to be reckoned with against Cynthia, but she definitely wasn't beating sinnoh's queen here
Lance vs Diantha sucked. They nerfed Lance's skills as a trainer and made him make awful plays left and right just so Diantha could win. What plays am I talking about? Let's see, he: - Hyper Beamed an Ice-/Rock-type(Rock-types resist normal-type moves) pokemon after its trainer called for a Light Screen, and that left his Dragonite open for super effective, S.T.A.B. damage, one being by 4x, and this is when having a 4x Body Press move. - Used Gyarados against Gourgeist despite having a Hydreigon, who resisted both of Gourgeist's S.T.A.B. types, and had Dark Pulse for Super effective, S.T.A.B. damage, which was also a special attack which Lance literally says he knew Light Screen was about to fade. - When Gyarados was on the field he told it to Aqua Tail a Reflect protected Grass-type Pokemon when he had Ice Fang and it fought nothing like it did when facing Leon in the last PWC. Like, where were the Aqua Tail and Ice Fang Flurry attacks at? They literally made Gyarados just a brute force attacker in that fight. Also, where was Dragon Dance at? If Lance got rid of it, then that's yet another nerf as he had no reason to get rid of it, especially when it helped him with his Flurry Attacks. - Saved his Hydreigon and his injured Dragonitrt for Diantha's Fairy-type mega ace... Like why? I get maybe Dragonite because it was such a tank, but Hydreigon? Man knew she'd use Gardevoir, yet instead of using it against Gourgeist earlier on, he wasted his Gyarados on it and saved his mon that's 4x weak to Fairy-types ... For her Fairy-type ace... That mega evolves... And I get people may say "She had Thunderbolt" okay 1. Nothing showed Lance knew that, thus it still would of been a smarter play to save Gyarados for Gardevoir when he knows the opponent has a Fairy-type move for his dragons, especially his one 4x weak to it. 2. Lance could of countered Thunderbolt with a move. Not only does he go by the "offense is the best defense" strat, but he literally did that when facing Leon's Charizard using Thunder Punch. Also, I don't want to hear anyone say that "maybe the writers forgot about his Flurry attacks" because there's no way they did. It was shown in one of the biggest fights ever in the series and literally two episodes before their fight, Paul somewhat mimicked the strategy with his Gyarados when training Ash. - Hyper Beam was nerfed. Remember when Lance faced Leon and Leon's Charizard dodged Hyper Beam? Did Hyper Beam just wear off? No. Gyarados followed it around the stadium for a bit, but nope, not here, they made it to where it could only be shot out and if someone dodged it, that's it. I get Dragonite isn't Gyarados, but that doesn't mean Dragonite can't follow its target, or at the very least, look upwards at Gardevoir as she literally just jumped in the air... Seriously, the most intelligent thing he did in this fight was his Dynamax stall strategy where he used Dragonite's bulk, Dynamax stamina boost, Hail damage anf attacks to do damage and block movess, that's it. They seriously could of made this an amazing fight where both trainers gave it their all and then I'd of been satisfied regardless of the outcome, but they had to almost completely nerf a character and give their opponent an advantage over them so the opponent one could move on. That's seriously disrespectful towards Lance, so it confuses me why people want to talk about Diantha getting disrespected in her fight with Leon, yey fail to mention how Lance was disrespected in his fight with her.
@@robertgonsalez-re5wu Nah, If Lance played his cards right, I guarantee he could of came out on top. That Gyarados is a speedy powerhouse and his Dragonite is a tank. Some even think had Lance's Dragonite been at full health in the final fight, it would of beaten her Gardevoir despite her major advantage on him. Not saying Diantha couldn't of won the fight, but they 100% nerfed Lance.
Not really, they just bullied Allan to make Leon look more powerful, and Leon ended up losing to ash who Allan beat before. They literally are just glazing Leon for no reason, regardless of your opinion on Allan, they did him dirty. Watch XYZ then come back to that battle with Leon, and tell me otherwise
Like, why da hell Rillaboom that unstoppable?!? It shouldn’t be that OP. How I should say this was I thought that Rillaboom was on steroids or something 💀😅
@@Ash_Melodie She beat a nerfed Lance who fought nothing like he did in episode 12, where he faced Leon and was written to make awful plays left and right.
It is said all leon pokemon are ace level, só rillaboom is not his 2° strongest, ALL of his pokemon are and charizard towers above. Alain would lose against all of them except maybe iris, he is not beating no one considering that even with a good type matchup against steven he was losing, so yeah alain was there just to get beat or might beat iris
@@girlgaming7346 not really, leon dragon tail startegy probally made all of diantha pokemon to fight dragapult, so dragpult faced about 5 pokemon, beated hawlucha, and lost after tired against tyrantrum, then rillaboom finished the job on the other 4 and charizard finished gardevoir
@@viniciusvini981 they literally showed how the battle progressed hawlucha battled dragapult dragapult defeated hawlucha with probably thunderbult then tyrantrum came and it was probably a good fight between them but tyrantrum came out victorious the Leon seen tyrantrum was problem and threw out his second strongest Pokémon to deal with it rilaboom then after he just never switched out at that point resulting in the actual sweep the announcer even said rilaboom sweeped dianthas pokemon one after another so there was no dragapult fight any of her other pokemon
@@girlgaming7346 🤦♂️, there is no way, this will be my last comment then i will be done, dragapult faced all then 5, beated hawlucha and lost to tyrantrum, the came rillaboom ad THEN it sweeped then one after another after alredy tired by dragapult, or u really think that ash would have a chance if rillaboom was able to take down 4 pokemon of antoher champion by itself with almost no damage at all??? Obviously no. Pleas use at least one brain cell and figure this out, i know you can with some time. And to finish Dianta has no chance vs cynthia Leon dragapult >>>>>diantha tyrantrum Cynthia garchomp >>ash lucario Cynthia>>>>diantha If rillaboom could take 4 pokemon of a champion no damage ash would have lost as all leon pokemon are ace level(canon). That is it, i am done, hope now u figure this out and why makes no sense rillaboom take out 4 alone or diantha tyrantrum be stronger then leon dragapult or ash lucario be stronger than cynthia garchomp, neither diantha having a chance, see ya.
The Ash vs leon battle was kinda ruined for me when Eternatus came and gave them a second chance to dynamax. Ash would not have won if Eternatus came😅 pikachu could only use iron tail and quick attack since cinderace Can become a ground type. The most stupid thing was that cinderace was taken down in just one hit only because pikachu was dynamaxed and somehow pikachu protected himself from a fireball. Also, if cinderace used the ground move he wouldn’t have been damaged at all. Cinderace wasnt damaged at all before he was hit by the gmax electric attack and he could easily avoid it by using the ground type move.
I'd say Gourgeist wins due to the Ghost-type-based strategy that Diantha normally uses with it and the fact that Gastrodon has not been seen using any Dark-type moves, let alone DARK PULSE!
not really, haxorus got one shot, even tho it doesnt look like, he blocked milotic disarming voice and hydro pump, outrage countered draco meteor, and dragon was stopped by psycho cut, only the last draco meteor hited, not really THAT close, cynthia never needed mega
Ash wasn't a match against any of 3 tbh he got carried by plot cynthia was toying with him on most of the match and her garchomp was nerfed metagross was abusing pikachu And somehow he needed 4 gimmicks against leon There is nO way a pokemon he caught on less than a year reach the level of a champion Him using his aces would have been believable at least from how long they are training
Actually would be more belivable if he used his first team and never switched, as then he would have enough time training with then to reavh champion level, his other aces also need training to reach champion level and his journeys team today's level
To me Sirfech'd technically got a win on Rillaboom, if you think about it closely Edit: (reason why am not saying Dragonight is because she got Molly whopped in that battle and only got the Dragonight meteor on him)
@@mylestomsik4720 yeah, tho we still got no explanation on those weird glowing spikes it had. Aside from Cynthia's take on some dormant power being awakened
@@mylestomsik4720 wish it was a new move or something, but idk what move would fit what we saw. I mean, it's a bunch of spikes grabbing someone. They're not arms or fangs
Let’s just say agree to disagree on some of these placings Lance vs Diantha is a C tier for me personally. It ain’t terrible, but it’s just kinda inoffensive. Same with Ash vs Steven. Iris vs Cynthia was good, aside from some pet peeves like the Garchompite just floating in front of Lucario as it Mega Evolves(a thing with Ash’s Lucario too) Ash vs Cynthia is solid, until Lucario is sent out. Not a fan of the whole thing with Dynamaxing Togekiss, even with Greninja squeezing in another cameo(As an aside, Ash and Lucario’s “Aura Bond” as I’ve heard it be called in some corners of the fandom. Totally not an Ash-Greninja ripoff, Amirite?! /hj). And Bullet Punch vs Dragon Claw was a weaker instance of animation. To compare it with Iris vs Cynthia, I prefer the constant blow exchanges over Garchomp just freezing as Lucario uses Bullet Punch(that sequence would be fine, if it was a Bit faster, to make it look like Garchomp isn’t just taking the hits) And Ash vs Leon. While it was solid, it had a pretty slow start. Lucario’s clash with Mr Rime is also an issue I have with the aforementioned speed thing(with everything slowing everything down so the announcer could talk), the second G Max from Eternatus was kinda wasted IMO, and Dracovish. No offense if you like Dracovish after you earned its respect, but those claws it got. Barely explained, barely foreshadowed(but that’s down to JN not giving Ash and his team a lot of development time compared to Goh), and a big case of “too little, too late” with its character development(May be biased on this one, since Ash’s Dracovish as a whole is just one of my least favorite members of his team(It’s personality is largely one joke, and it barely develops. I thought Goh was the one who caught Grookey, not Ash. HEYOOOOO), so you can take this with a pinch of salt). Part 4, and the final battle with Pikachu and Charizard though? Pure Gold. Cannot possibly improve it Apologies for the Long comment BTW, I get descriptive with my thoughts
Rillabbom lost in all of Leon's battles in the masters eight and it even lost against Leon's one sided battle against Alain the only masters eight tornament member that he isn't a champion he only won a pokemon league but not diantha. Rillabbom may have been defeat 7 pokemon in the tornament but it always lost in the end, unlike Charizard that never lost a single battle in his entire life until Ash's Pikachu defeat it
I think Ash vs Leon is not as epic as Ash vs Paul in the Sinnoh league but it was surely more epic if that match of Ash vs Paul would have been the finals of the Sinnoh league instead of guarter finals
Ash should have brought lucario instead of dracovish although I’d say pikachu and lucario ash the only good Pokémon he had on his team Dragonite: I thought was gonna be stronger due to it beating 2 Pokémon after gengar went down Gengar: may have took down 2 of raihans Pokémon but other than that it lost quite a bit Sirfetchd: I wouldn’t call him too bad but he lost to bea without taking out a single Pokémon but I think he would have been a better choice to use against Steven instead of gengar Dracovish: I think he did okay but lost when his weaknesses were exposed and it wasn’t a good matchup against steel type’s since water is effective and dragon is not very effective
I would bring the Lance vs Diantha battle down to C tier. It had all the good points you mentioned, but the characters for the most part forgot how to dodge and use the battlefield, especially Lance.
Yeah, but then Tobias would've technically cheated and used Darkrai and Latios and maybe even Cresselia and Latias to kick everyone's butts out except for Ash. That spirited kid would've stayed and trained and kept his mons battling that stupid man who has only been seen using legendaries until at last Ash's team came out superior. Goodness knows that Pikachu has been through enough emotional times with its partner that it is on the exact same level as freaking Lugia, and when you see it battle, you know you're going to see something else, friend. Lance, on the other hand, is another case. When you see him challenge someone strong who's passionate about battling (like Ash), you just know you're about to see something else. But... why HYDREIGON, of all mons? I would've liked to see him use an Altaria or maybe even a Salamance, and maybe he could've Mega Evolved it like Sawyer with Sceptile and Diantha with Gardevoir.
@allareworthgoldhazelmills no, they could have given him max 3 legendaries and tell his life story and slightly nerfed him. I really wanted to see the rematch.
They should have paired the matchups differently imo. Here’s what I woulda done Lance vs Iris Ash vs Alain Leon vs Diantha Steven vs Cynthia THEN Iris vs Ash Leon vs Cynthia THEN Ash vs Leon
Iris vs Ash would be a waste of time since Ash already proved he is superior to her, even with a lower ranking Just make the matchups Leon vs Steven Alain vs Diantha Cynthia vs Iris Ash vs Lance Then everything else is the same, and you're set
Ngl... glad others enjoy this tournament, but now that recency bias has faded, the only battle I really enjoy is Ash vs Leon. Every other one is either bad or set expectations way too high not to be underwhelming. Diantha vs Lance was painfully slow paced (granted, it's understandable given how overworked the animators were, but still) and Lance feels horribly dumbed down. I get that power has always been his main thing, but come on, the man was capable of making actual plays earlier in this very series. Diantha's strategies were just basic status moves, it feels like the only reason they worked was because her opponent was battling like an idiot. Iris vs Cynthia is... serviceable, but I'll never understand the hype behind it. At least on Iris's end, it's just her losing again to the woman she already lost to. And I say that as someone who wanted Cynthia to win. She doesn't even get to show off a new Pokemon or anything we hadn't seen in her last appearance. Ash vs Cynthia is okay for what it is, but it'll always be so tainted by the fact that Ash didn't use Infernape to beat her. They've been hinting at that practically since her very first appearance, and the lack of reserves will be the biggest black mark on all of his battles.
@@migspogi2097no 💀 not even close, haxorus got one shot, even tho it doesnt look like, he blocked milotic disarming voice and hydro pump, outrage countered draco meteor, and dragon was stopped by psycho cut, only the last draco meteor hited, not really THAT close, she just used mega for the hype
@@viniciusvini981 they were still somewhat even. Even if Haxorus did go down in one shot, the KO was still paced well. Otherwise Haxorus would have been out immediately once garchomp came in
It would’ve been cool if Iris went up against Lance, dragon, to dragon diantha versus Cynthia sister to sister and we did get mega Charizard x versus gigantimax charizard and then we got Steven versus Ash mega lucario versus mega metagross steel steel. Then lance battled ash come on they never met and I wanna see ashes draganite take out lances final draganite And the Leon vs diantha except this time we got full battles and the rillaboom vs auras battle rillaboom died to an ice beam. Mainly the full battles And there’s nothing changing about ash vs Leon it 😍
The only thing messed up is that you predicted diantha to win against cynthia lmao Diantha herself stated that cynthia is the only one who has a chance against leon
@@laxusstrauss5945 it was be a 3v3 and Cynthia's Garchomp only has Dragon moves, so if Cynthia couldn't defeat Gardevoir with her other pokemon Diantha automatically wins
spiritomb destiny bonds gardevoir, cynthia would destroy diantha, c'mom guys yo'all are not dumb to the point to think diantha has a chance against cynthia
Because we know what he meant ...pokemon names for obscure and ugly pokemon are only for filling the pokedex. Like who really cares what silly goofball name they have? it's getting to be a parody of itself.. like oo look I caught a shiny spooky fork (would be called spookifork or some shite and be a steel ghost type) they are getting lazy with the names ..pumpkinspicemon doesn't deserve any respek
It would have been amazing foreshadowing to have added Geeta instead of Alain. It would have shown how trash she was compared to other champions. Before we saw it in Scarlet and Violet.
agree however we all new ash was winning the whole thing becouse he was about to leave the anime and still i was happy that he finally won the big thing after all those loses in the regional leagues like unova
In my asters 8 predictions I had with my friend, we had Leon vs. Cynthia (it would hype Leon up to see him win), Lance vs. Iris (linking into her Dragon Msster goal, Ash vs. Alain and Steven vs. Diantha
@@thefatcontrollershat cynthia vs ash was meant to be for years and was literally hyped by the series So thats not valid cynthia vs lance is better Iris vs leon
In my opinion the roster should’ve been: 1. Leon vs Diantha 2. Steven vs Alain 3. Iris vs Cynthia 4. Ash vs Lance Diantha really don’t have any real connection with any other champion so her losing to Leon in first round isn’t that bad. But in this Diantha takes out 2 of Leon’s mon. Then I think Steven vs Alain should happen to get a decisive winner. I think Alain winning here would demonstrate his growth from XY specials till now and establish that even though he is not a champion he is not less than them. Cynthia vs Iris is fine because of their history and Cynthia would move on Ash vs Lance should’ve happened. Not only Ash would beat the runner up of previous M8 tournament but his home region champion. Lance is the very first champion Ash ever met and have known him for the longest period of time. Plus I can see that after the match Lance would’ve hold Ash’s hand and declare in front of the crowd to behold the true strongest trainer of Kanto. Then in semi finals Leon vs Alain and it would be a close match but Gmax wildfire would overpower blast burn. Then Ash vs Cynthia and Leon can happen the way it did in canon. This would be my version of master 8
@@GameZone-ib7eu There should have been a way to get Iris in the top 4; let her show the audience her team isn't just Excadrill, Dragonite, and Haxorus. She got a Gible in post-BW. She might have a Goodra.
@@MoonlightXYZ but I don’t see Iris winning against anyone. If she would beat someone I think it should be Lance for her dragon master goal but it would lead to Ash getting robbed of his match with Lance he deserves
Honesly. Not a fan of Iris vs Cynthia. For me it's me. And lets be honest. It was cool seing Mega Garchomp but even without it, it still would have won. So she didnt need to use Mega.
The literal point was she wasn't so sure, that's what the mega evolution was meant to indicate. If she didn't believe this there is no way she would have used it, since keeping it a secret would have given her an advantage in the semi finals. That's also the reason she didn't use it in the semi finals, because it would have been predictable and thus allowed Ash to prepare for it, instead catching him offguard with togekiss.
Well. I still dont thing Iris would have won. Another problem the fact that her Dragonite got KOed way to easily. It was so good in B&W anime but when u see it in here. I Just dont see it strong anymore. For me Iris V Cynthia is my 3rd least favorite battle. Just in front of Leon V Alain and Leon V Diantha. But behind Ash V Steven.
@@Jsjxnsjhsnot really, haxorus got one shot, even tho it doesnt look like, he blocked milotic disarming voice and hydro pump, outrage countered draco meteor, and dragon was stopped by psycho cut, only the last draco meteor hited, not really THAT close
@@benjaminlura7318 unless iris was facing Lance or Alain, she was never going to advance to the semis. And quite frankly I was fine with that since the rest of the masters eight is better than her Ash proved who the superior one is of the two of them Cynthia is untouchable to most people besides ash or Leon Steven's Metagross would clobber iris so fast with its unbelievable speed that iris would really feel embarrassed Diantha would tear her whole team apart with mega Gardevoir alone. Yes, even Excadrill if she can keep him at a distance and dodge with those lightning fast reflexes Even if she won against Alain, he still managed to be ranked above her so he won't be that easy to beat if it's the two of them battling And If we're going off what happened to Diantha and Alain, Leon would completely wreck iris
When you think about how Steven's Metagross almost bested Alain's Charizard and was facing Primal Kyogre head on, it feels so weird that he lost Plot armour I guess
They were on similar levels but Metagross never defeated either of them. His battle with Alain was interrupted by Lysandre and no human was going to be shown defeating the Primal Legends, not even a Champion. Combine that with the fact that Ash-Greninja was more than a match for Alain's Charizard and Pikachu is a lot more powerful than him, and on principal I think Pikachu defeating Metagross isn't impossible. I do however think it was... anti-climactic, like most people.
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I really like the Ash vs. Cynthia battle.
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Dianthas potential as a trainer is actually insane, out of all the trainers in the masters 8 she’s the one who is without a doubt the most busy and the one with the least amount of time to train cause of her packed schedule, and yet she still managed to make it to the top 4 in the world.imagine if she only focused on battling full time
Agreed
I mean cynthia is an archeologist and steven aswell if i am not mistaken
@@laxusstrauss5945An actress is still far more occupied by other people than an archaeologist so she's very likely to have much less time for her to train
@@nishantdayama4558 and archeology is more like a hobby for Cynthia something she does for fun and can easily get out of anytime, not like acting where you have a packed strict schedule your forced to follow.
@@laxusstrauss5945Steven didn’t make it to the top 4 but I guess that was due to plot armour so never mind
This should have been the masters 8 schedule
Ep115: Ceremony
Ep116: Alain vs Leon
Ep117: Diantha vs Lance
Ep118: Iris vs Cynthia
Ep119: Ash vs Steven
Ep120: Ash vs Lance (Practice)
Ep121: Diantha vs Steven (Practice)
Ep122-124: Diantha vs Leon (half of ep124 being battle, other Cynthia backstory)
Ep125-127: Ash vs Cynthia
Ep128: Goh says bye bye
Ep129-132: Ash vs Leon
I KNOW! But due to COVID, that went terribly wrong with Journeys 💀😣
The writers would never spend an entire episode in the proper full six on six battle that doesn't include Ash, let alone 2 or 3 episodes, for example Paul vs Cynthia was supposdly a full battle but cynthia only uses her Garchomp and defeat 4 of Paul's pokemon with one hit each and the battle last's only 5-6 minutes
@@videos43334dhdjj774hit was a 3v3.
Now that's a better way to handle this arc
It's actually insane that Ash, Alain and Iris are all masters eight. It means they are all champion level trainers, which is awsome.
Facts bro! 👍
They all deserve to be there. Even iris and Alain
Two of them are Champions and the third one was on the level of Champions already...
@@infinityalbi9840 in anime canon none of them except Ash were tough. Alain was very powerful and he could indeed match Steven so you are accurate but he also lost to elite four members. Iris took a major leap offscreen.
I like the full circle of Ash losing in Kanto with the Pikachu v Charizard match to turn it around and win the World Championship with a Pikachu V Charizard
Wow... I didn't even make that connection. This actually makes me appreciate the final battle a lot more.
This was obviously a crazy arc as it was but the fact they included alain only to have him get smacked by leon, rather than a rematch between charizard and greninja was foul
Mega gardevoir is just....Yaasssss queen....my most favourite mega ever....and yes when ever there was mega gardevoir present my screen looked elegent and majestic
Also fun fact. The Diantha vs Lance episode was originally suppose to come out June 24th. But was changed to 1 week later. June 24th is the same date the lighthouse episode was aired, featuring a huge dragonite. 25 years apart
That would have been a full-circle moment had it come out when it was supposed to.
Top 5 battles of Masters 8 :-
5) Lance vs Diantha (some of fastest pokemon in anime forgot to dodge attacks)
4)Iris vs Cynthia (final battle was peak but I didn't like how they treated other pokemons)
3) Lance vs Leon previous edition final (now that's difference b/w normal and champion level pokemon)
2) Ash vs Cynthia (perfect conclusion but why garchomp didn't have any effective moves vs Lucario)
1) Ash vs Leon (that day when entire world was watching together all social media platforms that feeling can't be surpassed)
I really like the Ash vs. Cynthia battle.
I was kinda Disappointed tho
I wanted Mega Lucario vs Mega Garchomp
@@Ark10032 we all did
Like what was the point of giving Cynthia's ace a mega if she's not even going to use it?
Cynthia is the only trainer who defeated ace Pokemons in both her matches in master 8
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Hot take: ash's team in this was, in all honesty, kinda ass. Besides Pikachu and gengar he really didn't have any og pokemon of his which heavily disappointed me. No charizard (which I can understand they didn't want 3 different charizards) but like...why no infernape? No greninja? I feel like he should have has pokemon from across his journey yet we got...this team.
Lucario was a good mon c’mon stop hating one of my favorites of his
@@sammicallef6291Lucario would've been good if it had enough screen time. Instead they gave it to Chloe and it basically became Walmart Greninja furry
Half his team was from Kanto, there needed to be more representation
I wish they did Iris vs Lance in R1 instead to complete her Dragon Master arc.
We all agree with this take
That would have been dope ngl. Lance is the only one I can see iris beating. Besides Alain
Let's be honest, she's not beating the other five
Alain and Diantha deserved WAY better in the masters eight
So did Lance
@@gaiusx287 yeah but at least he didn't go down like a rookie the way Alain and Diantha did against Leon, and he did hold a strong lead against Diantha for most of the battle
4:12 What I didn’t like is that it wasn’t speedy and dodging attacks like in the X and Y series
My takes on all of these fights:
Leon vs Alain: Terrible. How alain lost here was unacceptable. He should have been pushing leon way more considering how strong he is for someone who's not a champion
Lance vs Diantha: Choreography wise it was meh but both sides had awesome strategies. Better than the first battle by a large margin
Cynthia vs Iris: I am no fan of iris but journeys at least made me respect her a bit compared to how nuch of brat she was in unova. Iris definitely showed why she was a champ with how well she did against Cynthia. They were practically even from the start. Cynthia obviously won but i'll give iris an A for effort
Ash vs Steven. Aside from the Cradily portions, this battle wasn't great. Especially when it comes to Pikachu vs Mega Metagross. Ash should have figured out a way to slow Metagross down so he could then land some hits BEFORE using the Z Move
Leon vs Diantha: TRASH!! Idk if Leon or the writers have a problem with Kalos but him disrespecting Diantha was inexcusable. After Diantha redeemed herself in a lot of fans' eyed against lance, she looks like a newbie against leon. Two knockouts out of six is disgraceful
Ash vs Cynthia: Honestly Cynthia should have used mega evolution but aside from that, this battle was INCREDIBLE!! We wanted to see Ash take on Cynthia for so long and this battle really delivered. Lucario and Pikachu carried the fight but Sirfetch'd put in quite a bit of work, especially against Garchomp. It was so satisfying to see Ash get the win here
Ash vs Lepn: Peak PERFECTION!! Not only did ash win but the battlw itself had so much crazy sction, clean animation, and hype moments that kept me on rhe edge of my seat. Plus that pikachu vs Charizard finale, was, EPIC!!!
leon was legit tobias mode against diantha🐱💻
During Diantha VS Leon, Leon took all 4 diantha's pokemon in offscreen because of the plot. Ash's Rival in the journey series is Leon, so I think it was early to reveal Leon's pokemon until they were matched up with ash.
Although I didn't like how lucario got taken out so early after he defeated mr rime, I do like how each time at least contributed to help ash win!!
Personally I think all six of ash's Pokemon should have gotten a KO against Leon in the finals
@@eljordinio7647 ye everyone except sirfetch'd got a KO in the leon fight.
@@muhammadkhizer6415 pretty dumb honestly
They had the first two battles to make certain team members jobbers, this time they should have given everyone a KO
Sirfetch'd could have beaten Rilaboom, Dracovish could have beaten Cinderace, and the rest of the KOs could be the same
@@eljordinio7647 yeah but sirfetch'd was definitely the quiet mvp as he was able to do HUGE damage to cynthias garchomp and leons BROKEN rilllaboom.
@@muhammadkhizer6415 yeah... For me that's not really enough. If they were going to make someone fodder to Rilaboom it could have been dracovish instead while sirfetch'd could have beaten it
Plus at least it would put both of them at a solid win rate of 50 percent
Imagine not liking Ash’s Dracovish, couldn’t be me.
In his battle against Cynthia it would be epic if Ash used Infernape instead of Sircfetd, Ash had Lucario another fighting type but he didn't had a fire type and Infernape is the only Champion level pokemon Ash had in the Sinnoh Region, Infernape Also could have defeated Milotic and Gave serious damage in cynthia's garchomp and get some revenge in his first battle vs cynthia's garchop when he was only a chimchar
@@videos43334dhdjj774h that’s cool but Sirfetch’d is 1. My personal favorite Journeys Pokémon so sidelining it will not get me on your side and 2. My second favorite Ash Pokémon period, and #1 is not Infernape so I am not with you.
@@rkturtyInfernape has red butt cheeks..so he's by defult cuter, smarter and stronger than any other pokeman in eggs cyst dance.
@@DjDoxastic 1. Infernape does not have a red butt.
2. Red butt does not equal cute, just ask baboons.
3. You were so close to existence yet so far.
I personally despise that walking abomination
After masters eight, my love for diantha went through the roof.
The way she defeated lance and the way she was shown in semi finals, she did her best and never backed down.
She has vast knowledge about Pokemon battling , moves , abilities and things like that.
Her gardevior is the best.
It's Gourgeist, not Pumpkaboo! Also, I will agree with you that Ash vs Leon was on a whole other level, complete with an action-packed four episodes and plenty of excitement to go around. It really shows how far Ash has come since the XY series, where he literally fainted along with Greninja because of the unfortunate outcome of the finals of the Kalos League. I mean, why could they possibly not have treated our boy Ash, who is the MAIN CHARACTER of this anime series, with a little more respect and generosity? If he had won both the Kalos League and the Alola League, he'd have flown home on that second plane with two League wins and an extra title AND a victory against Kukui to his name. Ash vs Cynthia was another piece of cinema. The way Ash relies heavily on the bond between him and Lucario, and the Aura they share, to get them through Cynthia's last two mons, combined with how Pikachu took down GASTRODON and SPIRITOMB, despite the former being a Ground type, really makes this battle worth it. The only bad thing about this battle is how Dragonite and Gengar each missed their own KOs in this battle, but they really make that up in the next one. ALSO: why did you say Dragonite had a bit of a cold streak when she only lost to Cynthia's Spiritomb due to a combination of Hypnosis and Dream Eater?
EDIT: When you see Ash take his hat off, which rarely happens even if he is using 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt, you know the battle's about to get to a whole other level. The exact same thing happens when he touches his Key Stone to Mega Evolve Lucario or even recalls his Gengar only to Gigantamax it seconds later.
lance vs diantha was one of the battles of all time
Call me crazy, but I would’ve loved to have seen Ash face of against Lance since (correct me if I’m wrong) both Ash and Lance have history together since Lance is the champion of Jhoto and a Kanto Elite 4 member and they’ve fought together in the past. It would’ve been fun to see happen.
Yea or maybe even ash vs Alain rematch
I think that would of been a better choice then Steven, but I think Cynthia and Alain should of been the ones to face ash
Cynthia D-maxing kinda makes sence from a POV of Cynthia. Her Garchomp took major damage agianst KAMON/Sirfetch'd, and Lucario begun to counter alot of togekiss strategies. Also Cynthia is known for using unpredictable strategies, and D-maxing is something NOONE expected. Mega Lucario and Mega garchomp would be AMAZING to watch, but honestly... I see a good reason for Cynthia not to do it
Well.. If the writers had given everyone a DMax band, it wouldn't have been as "unpredictable".
Garchomp got to rest between rounds so it's not like she wouldn't gain some stamina back
Besides Cynthia dynamaxing just makes her having a mega evolution pointless since why use it against iris to hype up her battle with ash more in the first place
Not a good enough excuse we’ve seen Pokémon still use there gimmick even after getting damaged
@@carterryans yeah, like when Pikachu damaged Alain's Charizard heavily to the point it was on its knees before mega evolving
I think she saw Ash was expecting her to Mega Evolve Garchomp and decided to throw a curve ball at him to keep him off guard.
I think people would've taken a lot more kindly to that it Dynamax Togekiss had done... anything instead of just getting defeated by Mega Lucario.
If it defeated Kamon or Dracovish or even maybe Baton Passed an omni-boost from a move like Ancient Power to Garchomp (like Zac suggested), I think people wouldn't have minded that much.
Personal opinion but the victory would've felt much more sweet if either lean used more then one gimmick as well to match ash or ash say no and match Leon with one gimmick but don't get me wrong am still very happy with how it turned out
Iris vs cynthia is the only good battle in the first round. one reason is because we have known iris and it was emotional when she starting crying. it also let us know how far she's come to the point where she was doing really well vs cynthia until the lipstick was flipped and cynthia took the W
9:10 Dynamaxing togekiss wasn't a bad idea as lucario was a fighting type and togekiss a flying type
But the flying type is neutralized due to lucario’s steel typing. Meanwhile Garchomp’s ground type is still super effective!
@@thatboyminus oh yess thank you
@@thatboyminus Garchomp only has 3 Dragon moves....and stealth rock
@@thatboyminus wait wait wait... steel resists flying? I didn't know that. I'm not surprised about the fact that Lucario's Steel typing negates the Fighting type's weakness against Fairy-type moves, but I am surprised at what I just found out only seconds ago.
10:36 bro using all of his 5% power just to defeat the almighty King Kong
Lol king kong was on rampage through out the tournament
I hate the gigantamax gimmick among all gimmicks but I gotta admit I was so surprised and a little pumped that Cynthia's wildcard against Ash was g-max togekiss. So surprising to say the least!
Cynthia and Steven was coolest and Diantha was cutest 😅
I still think we got robbed of a pretty epic Steven vs Alain match but that's just me. I'd have been okey with them having Diantha bite the dust against Leon here and Ash battling his home region's champion Lance. Than they could basically keep everything the same with the exception of Steven or Alain replacing Diantha in the semi finale.
The battle we were actually robbed of was the rematch between ash and Alain that honestly should have been the first match of the masters 8 but that’s just my opinion
@@mattsultimategamingandrevi8249 personally I feel that is understandable since we got that pretty recentely in X and Y. Ash vs Iris would be cool, but maybe they could have given Ash and Alain a battle before the masters eight (if they weren't planning on having Ash battle him there)
@@mlgmeistros4278 yeah true
Tbh Diantha vs Alain would have been better. They're right next to each other in the rankings and Alain might actually prove to be a worthy successor to Diantha
I would've loved for the anime to have Alain bring back his Bisharp and introduce it as a gen 9 tease Kingambit. They couldve introduced its ability and its move Kowtow Cleave so that Alain couldve at least not gotten swept.
Leon's anime team tbh is very OP in the anime and it would be a super good and annoying team to battle in competitive
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right before you said you still get chills about the pikachu v charizard i started getting them too it was such a good battle
The way that battle went, I feel like Ash should not have beaten Leon. also Leon vs Allon should have been mega vs dinamax, like in the Kallos League where it was mega versus mega.
The big problem I had with the Master's 8 were the matchups. I really hoped that Ash would go against Alain in the first round and redeem himself for loosing. That would have been a perfect way to start the tournament and be a meaningful win for Ash, but it didn't happen😑.
I hear you, but unless we already knew Alain was in the Masters 8 before Ash reunited with greninja, or greninja could just somehow show up at Wyndon Stadium unexpectedly, idk how they would be able to give us the rematch we deserved without leaving the fans unsatisfied
The only other opponent that made sense for Ash to face in Round 1 would have been Lance since they have a bit of history, and it would be cool to see Ash not only beat the strongest trainer in his home region, but also the runner up in the last WCS season. Plus the promotional images we got for the Masters 8 did seem to hint at them battling, and honestly, I would have been fine with it. It could also give Ash's Dragonite a chance to shine and break her losing streak early and come on, how do U not wanna see Ash's and Lance's Dragonite duke it out?
As for Alain, let him battle Diantha instead. Only one Kalos representative would have gone through the first round anyway and look at it this way. Alain and Diantha are right next to each other in the rankings, so it's not like there's a vast difference of power between them. I could potentially see Alain doing extremely well and holding a lead for the majority of the battle, but still losing to the Kalos champ with dignity. It could show that Alain has what it takes to be a potential successor to Diantha and given he wants to be the strongest, that's a route I could see the writers taking him down
That only leaves Leon to face Steven in round 1, and here's my reasoning for it. We never got to see any of the top 3 trainers in the masters eight duke it out so here's a good opportunity for that. We could even see some great strats from both sides like Rilaboom having high horsepower as steel coverage and using acrobatics both to attack and dodge, Steven using Cradily's tentacles to his advantage to ensnare and attack opponents, Leon using Dragapult's dragon tail to force switches and catch Steven off guard, Steven using Mega Metagross's unbelievable speed and heightened awareness to his advantage to leave Leon's Charizard struggling to even land a move, Steven turning Gmax Wildfire back on Charizard with psychic, and Leon using Max Airstream at least twice to get fast enough to land hits on Metagross
@eljordinio7647 Wow, now I would actually like to see Leon vs. Steven. The matcheups of Diantha vs. Alain and Ash vs. Lance would have accepted too. I wanted Ash for the Masters 8 to use his old Pokemon and his new team for the final against Leon. I wouldn't accept Ash vs. Alain without Greninja. Ash vs. Cynthia was pretty good, but why give us that image in D&P of Infernape vs. Garchomp if they weren't going to give it to us!😫
Who do you think would win, Steven’s Aggron or Leon’s Rillaboom?
Rilaboom has high horsepower, and without sturdy, no way Aggron is living a single hit from that
This guy is being too generous with the rankings.
Here's my ranking:
Alain vs Leon, Diantha vs Leon, and Steven vs Ash are all F TIER!
Just terrible! I want those battles to be reanimated again.
I'd have liked to see another reason WHY Diantha lost to Leon, other than the fact that both Ash and Leon are working hard so that they can face each other in the finals.
I had just watched the final episode and I realized that pikachu tapped into a brand new ability no Pokémon can tap into alone it’s like the bond between your Pokémon must so strong death can’t break it and I wanna kinda call Limitless Bond is what it’s called and only when your bond is so strong with a Pokémon then it can be called forth and its from our knowledge still incredibly hard to tap into
They should've just confirmed Ash won using Pika Papow.
@@infinityalbi9840 I wouldn't be surprised if that WAS Pika Papow
@@eljordinio7647 me neither
I would most definitely not be surprised if that was an actual Ability in the games, my friend. Limitless Bond could automatically activate itself when your Pokemon reaches low HP in a battle and make it become nearly impossible to defeat, and when I say low HP, I mean IN THE RED low HP.
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5:25 I think if its not for mega evolve Iris could win the battle
Iris was at a huge disadvantage. She was the only who couldn't mega evolve or dynamax
@@otowndude08 or z move and even without IT she does good but like i sat could win this if not for mega evo
Iris still would have lost.
Tbh, it is weird that everyone wasn't given a DMax band. Cynthia could have Dmaxed in the first round then Mega-Evo in the second.
not really, haxorus got one shot, even tho it doesnt look like, he blocked milotic disarming voice and hydro pump, outrage countered draco meteor, and dragon was stopped by psycho cut, only the last draco meteor hited, not really THAT close
@@travisgames6608She thought she would lose against Iris without Mega evolution so she used it.
Cynthia didn’t mega evolve Garchomp because the mega form could not match Mega Lucario speed.
well iris's haxorus could've defeated garchomp if it didn't mega but it even stood her ground while being confused
@@christabelowusu-sekyere348 nope iris still wouldve lost. Cynthia only mega evolved to match iris's determination. The entire battle showed that while iris has gotten stronger she still has a long way to go before being on Cynthias level.
@@christabelowusu-sekyere348please. Garchomp would have won regardless
@@indifference1015yeah, like I'll give journeys props for making iris an actual force to be reckoned with against Cynthia, but she definitely wasn't beating sinnoh's queen here
Speed means nothing Togekiss barely proved it vikovolt is slow in the games but fast in the anime
Lance vs Diantha sucked. They nerfed Lance's skills as a trainer and made him make awful plays left and right just so Diantha could win.
What plays am I talking about?
Let's see, he:
- Hyper Beamed an Ice-/Rock-type(Rock-types resist normal-type moves) pokemon after its trainer called for a Light Screen, and that left his Dragonite open for super effective, S.T.A.B. damage, one being by 4x, and this is when having a 4x Body Press move.
- Used Gyarados against Gourgeist despite having a Hydreigon, who resisted both of Gourgeist's S.T.A.B. types, and had Dark Pulse for Super effective, S.T.A.B. damage, which was also a special attack which Lance literally says he knew Light Screen was about to fade.
- When Gyarados was on the field he told it to Aqua Tail a Reflect protected Grass-type Pokemon when he had Ice Fang and it fought nothing like it did when facing Leon in the last PWC. Like, where were the Aqua Tail and Ice Fang Flurry attacks at? They literally made Gyarados just a brute force attacker in that fight. Also, where was Dragon Dance at? If Lance got rid of it, then that's yet another nerf as he had no reason to get rid of it, especially when it helped him with his Flurry Attacks.
- Saved his Hydreigon and his injured Dragonitrt for Diantha's Fairy-type mega ace... Like why? I get maybe Dragonite because it was such a tank, but Hydreigon? Man knew she'd use Gardevoir, yet instead of using it against Gourgeist earlier on, he wasted his Gyarados on it and saved his mon that's 4x weak to Fairy-types ... For her Fairy-type ace... That mega evolves... And I get people may say "She had Thunderbolt" okay
1. Nothing showed Lance knew that, thus it still would of been a smarter play to save Gyarados for Gardevoir when he knows the opponent has a Fairy-type move for his dragons, especially his one 4x weak to it.
2. Lance could of countered Thunderbolt with a move. Not only does he go by the "offense is the best defense" strat, but he literally did that when facing Leon's Charizard using Thunder Punch.
Also, I don't want to hear anyone say that "maybe the writers forgot about his Flurry attacks" because there's no way they did. It was shown in one of the biggest fights ever in the series and literally two episodes before their fight, Paul somewhat mimicked the strategy with his Gyarados when training Ash.
- Hyper Beam was nerfed. Remember when Lance faced Leon and Leon's Charizard dodged Hyper Beam? Did Hyper Beam just wear off? No. Gyarados followed it around the stadium for a bit, but nope, not here, they made it to where it could only be shot out and if someone dodged it, that's it. I get Dragonite isn't Gyarados, but that doesn't mean Dragonite can't follow its target, or at the very least, look upwards at Gardevoir as she literally just jumped in the air...
Seriously, the most intelligent thing he did in this fight was his Dynamax stall strategy where he used Dragonite's bulk, Dynamax stamina boost, Hail damage anf attacks to do damage and block movess, that's it.
They seriously could of made this an amazing fight where both trainers gave it their all and then I'd of been satisfied regardless of the outcome, but they had to almost completely nerf a character and give their opponent an advantage over them so the opponent one could move on. That's seriously disrespectful towards Lance, so it confuses me why people want to talk about Diantha getting disrespected in her fight with Leon, yey fail to mention how Lance was disrespected in his fight with her.
Diantha wins no matter what
@@robertgonsalez-re5wu Nah, If Lance played his cards right, I guarantee he could of came out on top. That Gyarados is a speedy powerhouse and his Dragonite is a tank.
Some even think had Lance's Dragonite been at full health in the final fight, it would of beaten her Gardevoir despite her major advantage on him. Not saying Diantha couldn't of won the fight, but they 100% nerfed Lance.
@@josiahbennett5340 na
@@robertgonsalez-re5wu Yeah
@@josiahbennett5340 he lost 😅😂😂😂😂😂
Ghost types moves were so underwhelming in the anime until trick or treat and destiny bond.
After dusclops shadow punches though
Leon vs Alain was great, y'all are just mad he crushed your fave
I don't even like Alain but still thought that fight kinda glazing leon too hard
Not really, they just bullied Allan to make Leon look more powerful, and Leon ended up losing to ash who Allan beat before. They literally are just glazing Leon for no reason, regardless of your opinion on Allan, they did him dirty. Watch XYZ then come back to that battle with Leon, and tell me otherwise
@@dr.jonathanmcmillan9857 shut your mouth, there's nothing great about brutally disrespecting one of the strongest trainers in the world like that
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Diantha was done dirty in the semifinals
Agreed! Rilaboom was way too OP!
Like, why da hell Rillaboom that unstoppable?!? It shouldn’t be that OP. How I should say this was I thought that Rillaboom was on steroids or something 💀😅
So was her opponent, Lance.
@@josiahbennett5340 She beated Lance but in the semifinals got a pretty bad lose by Leon.
@@Ash_Melodie She beat a nerfed Lance who fought nothing like he did in episode 12, where he faced Leon and was written to make awful plays left and right.
i didnt rlly like lance vs diantha, lance had hydreigon, but he decided to use gyarados against gourgeist.
I wonder how Alain would do agianst the other M8 trainers. Cmon he was agianst Leon's 2 most powerfull pokemon. Charizard and Rilaboom.
It is said all leon pokemon are ace level, só rillaboom is not his 2° strongest, ALL of his pokemon are and charizard towers above. Alain would lose against all of them except maybe iris, he is not beating no one considering that even with a good type matchup against steven he was losing, so yeah alain was there just to get beat or might beat iris
I'd say Steven, iris or Lance he could definitely beat
4:13 pause. edit: 4:26 PAUSE AGAIN
Obviously lance vs diantha was interesting, but leon vs diantha was stupid and leon vs alain was stupid too. i pretty much agree with every word u say
Fr ash struggled against dragapult but diantha defeated it easily
@@girlgaming7346 ya
@@girlgaming7346 not really, leon dragon tail startegy probally made all of diantha pokemon to fight dragapult, so dragpult faced about 5 pokemon, beated hawlucha, and lost after tired against tyrantrum, then rillaboom finished the job on the other 4 and charizard finished gardevoir
@@viniciusvini981 they literally showed how the battle progressed hawlucha battled dragapult dragapult defeated hawlucha with probably thunderbult then tyrantrum came and it was probably a good fight between them but tyrantrum came out victorious the Leon seen tyrantrum was problem and threw out his second strongest Pokémon to deal with it rilaboom then after he just never switched out at that point resulting in the actual sweep the announcer even said rilaboom sweeped dianthas pokemon one after another so there was no dragapult fight any of her other pokemon
@@girlgaming7346 🤦♂️, there is no way, this will be my last comment then i will be done, dragapult faced all then 5, beated hawlucha and lost to tyrantrum, the came rillaboom ad THEN it sweeped then one after another after alredy tired by dragapult, or u really think that ash would have a chance if rillaboom was able to take down 4 pokemon of antoher champion by itself with almost no damage at all??? Obviously no. Pleas use at least one brain cell and figure this out, i know you can with some time. And to finish
Dianta has no chance vs cynthia
Leon dragapult >>>>>diantha tyrantrum
Cynthia garchomp >>ash lucario
Cynthia>>>>diantha
If rillaboom could take 4 pokemon of a champion no damage ash would have lost as all leon pokemon are ace level(canon). That is it, i am done, hope now u figure this out and why makes no sense rillaboom take out 4 alone or diantha tyrantrum be stronger then leon dragapult or ash lucario be stronger than cynthia garchomp, neither diantha having a chance, see ya.
When iris cried i felt so bad
Everybody gotta hold that rillaboom smoke 😭😭
The Ash vs leon battle was kinda ruined for me when Eternatus came and gave them a second chance to dynamax. Ash would not have won if Eternatus came😅 pikachu could only use iron tail and quick attack since cinderace Can become a ground type. The most stupid thing was that cinderace was taken down in just one hit only because pikachu was dynamaxed and somehow pikachu protected himself from a fireball. Also, if cinderace used the ground move he wouldn’t have been damaged at all. Cinderace wasnt damaged at all before he was hit by the gmax electric attack and he could easily avoid it by using the ground type move.
cinderace and gastrodon were victimes of pikachu's plot armor
@@laxusstrauss5945 yeah😎
Typical, dismiss that Ash has some skill of his own just cos you don't want him to succeed
@@eljordinio7647 couldn't have said it better...
Question who wins in a fight dianthas gourgiest or Cynthia’s gastradon
I'd say Gourgeist wins due to the Ghost-type-based strategy that Diantha normally uses with it and the fact that Gastrodon has not been seen using any Dark-type moves, let alone DARK PULSE!
I instantly skipped the raidshadowlegends thing
2:10
Pikachu vs charizard isnt one of the best. Its hands down THE BEST.
Best matchup I've ever seen
I woulda put Iris vs Cynthia in S but that’s just my Iris bias
I wouldn't blame U but at this point, A is fine. Iris is getting way too much hype these days as it is anyway
Garchomp can mega evolve and haxourus can't so i say the fight between Iris and Cynthia is a bit unfair.
not really, haxorus got one shot, even tho it doesnt look like, he blocked milotic disarming voice and hydro pump, outrage countered draco meteor, and dragon was stopped by psycho cut, only the last draco meteor hited, not really THAT close, cynthia never needed mega
Unfair or not it's clear who the better dragon is
Ash wasn't a match against any of 3 tbh he got carried by plot
cynthia was toying with him on most of the match and her garchomp was nerfed
metagross was abusing pikachu
And somehow he needed 4 gimmicks against leon
There is nO way a pokemon he caught on less than a year reach the level of a champion
Him using his aces would have been believable at least from how long they are training
Exactly everyone got nerfed to make Leon and ash look good
Actually would be more belivable if he used his first team and never switched, as then he would have enough time training with then to reavh champion level, his other aces also need training to reach champion level and his journeys team today's level
If cynthia was nerfed, she wouldn't have dominated Ash from the beginning
And what, u expect garchomp to just change her moves overnight?
U didn't answer the question
Bro put ash vs Steven at b 😂😂😂😂
I love your videos minus keep up the good work
To me Sirfech'd technically got a win on Rillaboom, if you think about it closely
Edit: (reason why am not saying Dragonight is because she got Molly whopped in that battle and only got the Dragonight meteor on him)
It's only a win if Rilaboom is knocked out by sirfetch'd himself
dracovish was the one who actually knocked out the busted gorilla
@@mylestomsik4720 yeah, tho we still got no explanation on those weird glowing spikes it had. Aside from Cynthia's take on some dormant power being awakened
@@eljordinio7647 i don't know either
@@mylestomsik4720 wish it was a new move or something, but idk what move would fit what we saw. I mean, it's a bunch of spikes grabbing someone. They're not arms or fangs
Ash vs leon is the GREATEST pokemon battle of all time easily!!!
Let’s just say agree to disagree on some of these placings
Lance vs Diantha is a C tier for me personally. It ain’t terrible, but it’s just kinda inoffensive. Same with Ash vs Steven. Iris vs Cynthia was good, aside from some pet peeves like the Garchompite just floating in front of Lucario as it Mega Evolves(a thing with Ash’s Lucario too)
Ash vs Cynthia is solid, until Lucario is sent out. Not a fan of the whole thing with Dynamaxing Togekiss, even with Greninja squeezing in another cameo(As an aside, Ash and Lucario’s “Aura Bond” as I’ve heard it be called in some corners of the fandom. Totally not an Ash-Greninja ripoff, Amirite?! /hj). And Bullet Punch vs Dragon Claw was a weaker instance of animation. To compare it with Iris vs Cynthia, I prefer the constant blow exchanges over Garchomp just freezing as Lucario uses Bullet Punch(that sequence would be fine, if it was a Bit faster, to make it look like Garchomp isn’t just taking the hits)
And Ash vs Leon. While it was solid, it had a pretty slow start. Lucario’s clash with Mr Rime is also an issue I have with the aforementioned speed thing(with everything slowing everything down so the announcer could talk), the second G Max from Eternatus was kinda wasted IMO, and Dracovish. No offense if you like Dracovish after you earned its respect, but those claws it got. Barely explained, barely foreshadowed(but that’s down to JN not giving Ash and his team a lot of development time compared to Goh), and a big case of “too little, too late” with its character development(May be biased on this one, since Ash’s Dracovish as a whole is just one of my least favorite members of his team(It’s personality is largely one joke, and it barely develops. I thought Goh was the one who caught Grookey, not Ash. HEYOOOOO), so you can take this with a pinch of salt). Part 4, and the final battle with Pikachu and Charizard though? Pure Gold. Cannot possibly improve it
Apologies for the Long comment BTW, I get descriptive with my thoughts
Rilaboom the undefeated☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
they gave him more power than his own ace.
Rillabbom lost in all of Leon's battles in the masters eight and it even lost against Leon's one sided battle against Alain the only masters eight tornament member that he isn't a champion he only won a pokemon league but not diantha. Rillabbom may have been defeat 7 pokemon in the tornament but it always lost in the end, unlike Charizard that never lost a single battle in his entire life until Ash's Pikachu defeat it
@@videos43334dhdjj774h Sonia beat it when it was only a Charmander
Meta gross should have won I’m dissatisfied about the plot armor
Thank you!! Someone had to say it. Straight plot armor trash.
I think instead of as it should have been mega lucario....ash Vs Steven was a trash battle....
They should’ve rethink how the battle would play out or something… the tournament battles in Journeys was just abysmal to watch (with some exceptions)
I mean i get z moves can't miss at all but kinda hate they gave us hope thinking oh he can dodge them then no right at the end
Yeah there was plot armor but if Metagross won, there would still be backlash
This is one of those situations where they're stuck either way
All of the battles were underwhelming compared to battles in the past. These could’ve gone down as some of the best battles in history.
Even Ash vs. Leon?
@@thatboyminusEh, mostly a lot of gimmick spam but the end of the battle was sick
@@jeremiahgreen5632 Alot of gimmick spam when Leon legit said ash use all your gimmicks yea i could not see that coming at all
I think Ash vs Leon is not as epic as Ash vs Paul in the Sinnoh league but it was surely more epic if that match of Ash vs Paul would have been the finals of the Sinnoh league instead of guarter finals
Ash vs Leon was epic what r U on about
Ash should have brought lucario instead of dracovish although I’d say pikachu and lucario ash the only good Pokémon he had on his team
Dragonite: I thought was gonna be stronger due to it beating 2 Pokémon after gengar went down
Gengar: may have took down 2 of raihans Pokémon but other than that it lost quite a bit
Sirfetchd: I wouldn’t call him too bad but he lost to bea without taking out a single Pokémon but I think he would have been a better choice to use against Steven instead of gengar
Dracovish: I think he did okay but lost when his weaknesses were exposed and it wasn’t a good matchup against steel type’s since water is effective and dragon is not very effective
I would bring the Lance vs Diantha battle down to C tier. It had all the good points you mentioned, but the characters for the most part forgot how to dodge and use the battlefield, especially Lance.
You also forgot Pokemon mostly dodge only if they're told to
Naw thats peppino spaghetti attack
They could have kept Tobias instead of Lance.
Yeah, but then Tobias would've technically cheated and used Darkrai and Latios and maybe even Cresselia and Latias to kick everyone's butts out except for Ash. That spirited kid would've stayed and trained and kept his mons battling that stupid man who has only been seen using legendaries until at last Ash's team came out superior. Goodness knows that Pikachu has been through enough emotional times with its partner that it is on the exact same level as freaking Lugia, and when you see it battle, you know you're going to see something else, friend.
Lance, on the other hand, is another case. When you see him challenge someone strong who's passionate about battling (like Ash), you just know you're about to see something else. But... why HYDREIGON, of all mons? I would've liked to see him use an Altaria or maybe even a Salamance, and maybe he could've Mega Evolved it like Sawyer with Sceptile and Diantha with Gardevoir.
@allareworthgoldhazelmills no, they could have given him max 3 legendaries and tell his life story and slightly nerfed him. I really wanted to see the rematch.
Scum like that aren't allowed
definitely would put cynthia vs iris over cynthia vs ash, the visuals for a FIRST round match was incredible. ofc ash v leon takes the cake
Bruh said the best in all of fiction 🤣 💀
W or L?
Ash vs Cynthia A+++
Let bro cook 🗣️🔥
Ash vs Lance and Steven vs Diantha would have been much better or even better Lance vs Leon and Ash vs Alain
They should have paired the matchups differently imo. Here’s what I woulda done
Lance vs Iris
Ash vs Alain
Leon vs Diantha
Steven vs Cynthia
THEN
Iris vs Ash
Leon vs Cynthia
THEN
Ash vs Leon
I liked it but being that Ash already beat Iris earlier in the series I’d still prefer Ash v Cynthia again in the semis.
Oh right I forgot abt that
@@LeoshausThen Leon vs Iris in the semi finals.
Iris vs Ash would be a waste of time since Ash already proved he is superior to her, even with a lower ranking
Just make the matchups
Leon vs Steven
Alain vs Diantha
Cynthia vs Iris
Ash vs Lance
Then everything else is the same, and you're set
@@Chillaccino1it woulb be great on 2nd round will be Ash vs Cynthia
And iris vs Leon it would be great
Ngl... glad others enjoy this tournament, but now that recency bias has faded, the only battle I really enjoy is Ash vs Leon. Every other one is either bad or set expectations way too high not to be underwhelming.
Diantha vs Lance was painfully slow paced (granted, it's understandable given how overworked the animators were, but still) and Lance feels horribly dumbed down. I get that power has always been his main thing, but come on, the man was capable of making actual plays earlier in this very series. Diantha's strategies were just basic status moves, it feels like the only reason they worked was because her opponent was battling like an idiot.
Iris vs Cynthia is... serviceable, but I'll never understand the hype behind it. At least on Iris's end, it's just her losing again to the woman she already lost to. And I say that as someone who wanted Cynthia to win. She doesn't even get to show off a new Pokemon or anything we hadn't seen in her last appearance.
Ash vs Cynthia is okay for what it is, but it'll always be so tainted by the fact that Ash didn't use Infernape to beat her. They've been hinting at that practically since her very first appearance, and the lack of reserves will be the biggest black mark on all of his battles.
Ash vs Leon was one of the worst.
@@999jjjAsh may have won, but he needed to use damn near all the gimmicks to win. That’s the writers fault for making Leon stupidly op 🤦🏾♂️
and ash vs steven was shit.
@@futureparadise.2089 stop cursing its its sin...........
@@mylestomsik4720stop cursing its a sin .....................
DYNAMAX SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED IN IRIS VS CYNTHIA BATTLE AND MEGA IN ASH VS CYNTHIA
Cynthia sees Iris more of a threat than Ash that’s why she went all out against her
@@migspogi2097no 💀 not even close, haxorus got one shot, even tho it doesnt look like, he blocked milotic disarming voice and hydro pump, outrage countered draco meteor, and dragon was stopped by psycho cut, only the last draco meteor hited, not really THAT close, she just used mega for the hype
Mega Garchomp would be too slow for Lucario
@@Lor_DuckTogekiss literally proved speed means nothing
@@viniciusvini981 they were still somewhat even. Even if Haxorus did go down in one shot, the KO was still paced well. Otherwise Haxorus would have been out immediately once garchomp came in
It would’ve been cool if Iris went up against Lance, dragon, to dragon diantha versus Cynthia sister to sister and we did get mega Charizard x versus gigantimax charizard and then we got Steven versus Ash mega lucario versus mega metagross steel steel.
Then lance battled ash come on they never met and I wanna see ashes draganite take out lances final draganite
And the Leon vs diantha except this time we got full battles and the rillaboom vs auras battle rillaboom died to an ice beam. Mainly the full battles
And there’s nothing changing about ash vs Leon it 😍
The only thing messed up is that you predicted diantha to win against cynthia lmao
Diantha herself stated that cynthia is the only one who has a chance against leon
@@laxusstrauss5945 it was be a 3v3 and Cynthia's Garchomp only has Dragon moves, so if Cynthia couldn't defeat Gardevoir with her other pokemon Diantha automatically wins
@@Ash_Melodiespiritomb destiny bonds it, c'mom guys yo'all are not dumb to the point to think diantha has a chance against cynthia
spiritomb destiny bonds gardevoir, cynthia would destroy diantha, c'mom guys yo'all are not dumb to the point to think diantha has a chance against cynthia
@@viniciusvini981 not if Tyrantrum destroys it, that guy defeated Dragapult with ease but Lucario died from Dragaplut who killed Garchomp.
What gen is this
Gen 8
Tobias claps them all
By cheating
I was sad to see how. They nurfed alan
It's Alain
Just curious, what are your favorite Pokémon?
He calles Gourgeist "Pumpkaboo" ☠️☠️
Because we know what he meant ...pokemon names for obscure and ugly pokemon are only for filling the pokedex. Like who really cares what silly goofball name they have? it's getting to be a parody of itself.. like oo look I caught a shiny spooky fork (would be called spookifork or some shite and be a steel ghost type) they are getting lazy with the names ..pumpkinspicemon doesn't deserve any respek
Alain and Diantha was SOO DISRESPECTFUL!!!!!
Where can I watch Pokemon Journeys
Netflix
@@ghastlynote2052Pokemon Asia English TH-cam channel
It would have been amazing foreshadowing to have added Geeta instead of Alain. It would have shown how trash she was compared to other champions. Before we saw it in Scarlet and Violet.
They probably woulda had her at least make semis…
@@Chillaccino1 I agree they would have, but thats a hard sell for anyone to actually believe.
Geeta and the Paldea region and all gen 9 pokemon in general doesn't exist in pokemon journeys, pokemon horizons is in another universe
@@videos43334dhdjj774h didn’t we see Nemona and Koraidon near the end as a teaser tho
@@davidkeller7031 so was Diantha making semis
leon and ash road their plot armor to the top and in the finals ash's plot armor won out
Facts 😂
agree however we all new ash was winning the whole thing becouse he was about to leave the anime and still i was happy that he finally won the big thing after all those loses in the regional leagues like unova
@@dominykasguzis1495 without the plot armor ash is probably the 4th strongest trainer in the world
@@nickfarwell8104 nah maybe 3rd or 2nd (besides cynthia and leon)
@@aaryainfernolucario3519 considering he needed plot armor to beat steven stone 4th is his best placement as of right now
People didn't like the R1 roster. Who would you have face each other instead for R1?
In my asters 8 predictions I had with my friend, we had Leon vs. Cynthia (it would hype Leon up to see him win), Lance vs. Iris (linking into her Dragon Msster goal, Ash vs. Alain and Steven vs. Diantha
@@thefatcontrollershat cynthia vs ash was meant to be for years and was literally hyped by the series
So thats not valid
cynthia vs lance is better
Iris vs leon
In my opinion the roster should’ve been:
1. Leon vs Diantha
2. Steven vs Alain
3. Iris vs Cynthia
4. Ash vs Lance
Diantha really don’t have any real connection with any other champion so her losing to Leon in first round isn’t that bad. But in this Diantha takes out 2 of Leon’s mon.
Then I think Steven vs Alain should happen to get a decisive winner. I think Alain winning here would demonstrate his growth from XY specials till now and establish that even though he is not a champion he is not less than them.
Cynthia vs Iris is fine because of their history and Cynthia would move on
Ash vs Lance should’ve happened. Not only Ash would beat the runner up of previous M8 tournament but his home region champion. Lance is the very first champion Ash ever met and have known him for the longest period of time. Plus I can see that after the match Lance would’ve hold Ash’s hand and declare in front of the crowd to behold the true strongest trainer of Kanto.
Then in semi finals Leon vs Alain and it would be a close match but Gmax wildfire would overpower blast burn.
Then Ash vs Cynthia and Leon can happen the way it did in canon. This would be my version of master 8
@@GameZone-ib7eu There should have been a way to get Iris in the top 4; let her show the audience her team isn't just Excadrill, Dragonite, and Haxorus. She got a Gible in post-BW. She might have a Goodra.
@@MoonlightXYZ but I don’t see Iris winning against anyone. If she would beat someone I think it should be Lance for her dragon master goal but it would lead to Ash getting robbed of his match with Lance he deserves
Here I am from the meencraft live
Why Alain got nerfed 😢
Rip his Charizard, Malamar, and his Chesnaught 🫡
he did't got nerfed it was a way to show how strong leon is
That's no excuse @@SheraTheShepsky
HARDCORE FTW
Gourgiest not pumpkaboo
Honesly. Not a fan of Iris vs Cynthia. For me it's me. And lets be honest. It was cool seing Mega Garchomp but even without it, it still would have won. So she didnt need to use Mega.
The literal point was she wasn't so sure, that's what the mega evolution was meant to indicate. If she didn't believe this there is no way she would have used it, since keeping it a secret would have given her an advantage in the semi finals. That's also the reason she didn't use it in the semi finals, because it would have been predictable and thus allowed Ash to prepare for it, instead catching him offguard with togekiss.
Well. I still dont thing Iris would have won. Another problem the fact that her Dragonite got KOed way to easily. It was so good in B&W anime but when u see it in here. I Just dont see it strong anymore. For me Iris V Cynthia is my 3rd least favorite battle. Just in front of Leon V Alain and Leon V Diantha. But behind Ash V Steven.
@@Jsjxnsjhsnot really, haxorus got one shot, even tho it doesnt look like, he blocked milotic disarming voice and hydro pump, outrage countered draco meteor, and dragon was stopped by psycho cut, only the last draco meteor hited, not really THAT close
@@mlgmeistros4278 she could have just dynamaxed garchomp instead of she wanted to catch her opponent off guard
@@benjaminlura7318 unless iris was facing Lance or Alain, she was never going to advance to the semis. And quite frankly I was fine with that since the rest of the masters eight is better than her
Ash proved who the superior one is of the two of them
Cynthia is untouchable to most people besides ash or Leon
Steven's Metagross would clobber iris so fast with its unbelievable speed that iris would really feel embarrassed
Diantha would tear her whole team apart with mega Gardevoir alone. Yes, even Excadrill if she can keep him at a distance and dodge with those lightning fast reflexes
Even if she won against Alain, he still managed to be ranked above her so he won't be that easy to beat if it's the two of them battling
And If we're going off what happened to Diantha and Alain, Leon would completely wreck iris
When you think about how Steven's Metagross almost bested Alain's Charizard and was facing Primal Kyogre head on, it feels so weird that he lost
Plot armour I guess
They were on similar levels but Metagross never defeated either of them. His battle with Alain was interrupted by Lysandre and no human was going to be shown defeating the Primal Legends, not even a Champion.
Combine that with the fact that Ash-Greninja was more than a match for Alain's Charizard and Pikachu is a lot more powerful than him, and on principal I think Pikachu defeating Metagross isn't impossible.
I do however think it was... anti-climactic, like most people.