@@thatboyminus she could have had dig against Ash in the masters eight but i think Ash would have found ways to counter it by using bullet punch at the ground or either firing aura sphere in the hole or at garchomp's position after sensing her aura
@@thatboyminus dig would be better for a ground move since it's not banned in the anime like EQ was, and it's useful for launching surprise attacks For instance, think of garchomp using Draco Meteor for cover while she hid underground with dig and struck from below
Ash's greninja in journeys got so stronger he would wipe the floor with alain's mega Charizard he was so fast that lucario couldn't even see him his shurikens look way bigger and his punch sent lucario flying a Pokemon who is a steel type which is supposed to have insane durability all of this was done by base greninja even without Ash's greninja form
Anabel in the battle frontier used a Metagross to take down Pikachu in Ash's first fight with her, in the rematch it tied with Ash's Tauros. leaving Pikachu to fight and beat her Espeon.
@@thatboyminus i kinda was hoping for Infeenape even if it just an honorable mention. You did mention Pauls Ace and at that moment i thougt he would at least be mentioned.
Great list. Although I personally think that Greninja and Alain's Charizard should not be higher than Gardevoir and Metagross at all. Greninja didn't participate in M8 at all. Leon's Rillaboom should be in the list over it. Iris's Haxorus fought toe to toe with Mega Garchomp while Alain's Mega Charizard X got stomped by a Charizard without any battle gimmick on that fight. My personal top 10 list: 10. Lance's Dragonite 9. Ash's Lucario 8. Leon's Rillaboom 7. Alain's Charizard 6. Iris's Haxorus 5. Steven's Metagross 4. Diantha's Gardevoir 3. Cynthia's Garchomp 2. Leon's Charizard 1. Ash's Pikachu
I agree with that: he said there would be no hypotheticals for this ranking, but what he said about Ash-Greninja is just that, considering we never actually got to see it use the form after it reunited with Ash. Also consider that this was before Lucario mastered it's aura bond with Ash, and by extension, before it beat Cynthia's OP Garchomp in the Masters 8 tournament, so it's unknown how much more powerful Greninja would truly be if Ash actually used it again
Greninja did fight Gardevoir and had the upper hand until he and Ash fell unconscious. Not participating in the M8 was just a writing decision to have Ash use his Galar team. The only Pokemon Ash used that were stronger than greninja were Pikachu and maybe Lucario
I mean Infernape's backstory and character arc was great and it was a beast in the Sinnoh Anime but it didn't make much of and appearance after that. Yeah it appeared again in Journeys but Lost to Moltres.... so it doesn't have much of a feat to include it
@@deathkiller2.0bs60 they only made it lose to moltres to give Gary the spotlight. They only let it use like 2 moves before letting Gary do his thing. Like if they showed blaze and actually put effort into the episode it would have done way better. It doesn’t have a lot of feats but in journeys it was implied to be ash’s strongest fire type. It fought all of ash’s fire types looking for a challenge and eventually sought a legendary, indicating that charizard wasn’t enough. Plus it was front and center when teaching gengar will o wisp. I stg the franchise hates gen 4
He torched a bunch of spearrow with one thunder in a rainstorm in episode one. At some point Pikachu watched Ash die a second time right in front of him when Ash turned into particle dust and Pikachu electo-nuked everything in I think like a 20 mile radius. Let's be honest with ourselves, with feats such as those to Pikachu's name, was there ever really any doubts?
When Charizard can beat at least one champion level Pokemon, then I'll consider it Greninja came close and had the potential to beat one even with the bond phenomenon not perfected yet, and Lucario beat three champion level Pokemon during the masters eight
@@eljordinio7647 Blud is speaking facts. Why I will always say Lucario was a powerhouse in journey. I will say hands down that Lucario is literally one of Ash's best Pokémon.
@thatboyminus Looks good, but I would Blaziken a little higher in my opinion, especially above Luxray. Yes, we haven't seen him battle in a long time, but, when we did, he was proven to be even with a certain "Mythical Slayer" Ash owns. I would put him above Luxray and maybe above Cinderace. Cinderace has more tag battles/Had someone battles most often. Blaziken really didn't most of the time, even when he was a Combusken. The rest look solid.. But where's Tracy's Scyther?
I will contest the 9th spot, especially since your breaking your own rules, you said no hypotheticals, but implying that if Iris had a gimmick would've given her the win against cynthia, is a hypothetical situation. Personally I don't know or get why they bothered making Iris a champion anyway, just because she became one in the B2/W2 sequels, that doesn't automatically mean it should effect her anime counterpart who's goal was to become a dragon master, not only that, but the title of a regional champion isn't something to take lightly yet we didn't exactly get the best explanation for how she got there other than word of mouth. Not getting to see her win or show off the power that a champion should have is pretty bad, even Alain's past experiences were enough to prove why he belonged in the masters 8, with Iris not getting to show her stuff really makes you wonder if making her champion was a good idea, since from my perspective she was a martyr to make others look good, and felt like character assassination more than growth. We didn't even see any team changes other than Axew evolving, and while her Haxorus did put up an impressive showing against Cynthia, at the end of the day it doesn't change the fact that Iris lost to her and also lost to Ash (the only battles we saw her in as champion) and Ash beat her with the element she's supposed to be specializing in, something that ironically he can't seem to do against Misty since when they are only using water types she wins, imagine the message you get from that one.
When you were talking about iris haxarous, you said if they could dynamax they would have won battles. But it’s not serious it just caught me off guard a little. This page is still awesome
The Lucario monologue made me realize that Ash's Lucario immediately took to M.E. vs the absolute DISASTER that was Korrina and hers first several attempts. Really shows just how much the narrative wanted to get across his bond with his Pokémon, on par with (or at minimum a very close second to) bond phenomenon imo.
@@thatboyminus Ash's Charizard beat a legendary years ago and now it has gotten even stronger he recieved so much training after that if it got mega evolution it would probably rival cynthia's mega garchomp or at least give it a close fight bc Ash's mega Charizard would be like a Pokemon stronger than legendary birds in base having mega evolution which would be insanely strong
this greninja without any commands from a trainer could protect the entirety of kalos from the roots that pikachu and lucario couldnt destroy even one of together. with the bond phenomenon and just a bit of practice he could and would have easily surpassed pikachu
Dude there is no bigger lover of Ash’s Charizard than me. Unfortunately he just hasn’t gotten the opportunity to battle many powerful mons, at least as of late
@@thatboyminus Bro Beat Two Metagrosses As A Chimchar (Not Entirely Sure About The Second One) And One Shot Paul's Ursaring That Was Washing Ash's Lake Team In His Blazed Form As A Chimchar And He didn't Even Lose To Moltres They We're More Or Less Even In Strength.
I dont leon had plot armor or pikachu against metagross because its a Z move thay can ohko pokemon like tapu koko and possessed lusamine and leon is the number one trainer in the world so nobody was beating him anyways
My opinion: 1-Ash Pikachu 2-Leon Charizard 3/4Cynthia Garchomp and Ash Lucario (I don't believe there is a big difference in power between the two at their 100%) 5/6 Diantha Gardevoir and Steven Metagross 7/8 Charizard Alain (without the buff from the bracelet that stole energy from the mega evolution) and Ash Greninja 9 Leon Rillabom 10 Lance Dragonaite honorable mentions to: Cynthia Togekiss, Iris Haxorus, Lance Gyrados, Leon Cindarece
@@Md-Samim-89 Lucario got much stronger after training with Greninja to the point where it one shot a G max Drudigon whom Charizard need G max tk beat. Implying Lucario + Aura boost> Leons Charizard > Alains MCX>= Greninja
MMy top 10 Numer 10 cynthias spirittomb 9 lances gyarados 8 Stevens metagross 7 dianthas gardevoir 6 ashes lucario 5 ashes greninja 4 synthias garchomp 3 Leon charizard 2 ash Pikachu 1 team Rocket beawear The beawear is super op! IT could easly win with pheromosa that is a ultrabeast and beated ashes Pikachu easy, IT could have beaten gazzlord if stafful wasnt in danger. Sorry for i ortografi
I think my favorite Ash pikachu win was pikachu vs Misty's mega Gyarados. I see Misty and Ash as the anime first rival friends as Misty wanted to beat Ash in a battle since their gym fight that didnt really count as Team rocket interfereed. But when they finally fought truly in the Alola series. Man, Pikachu amazing feat of defeating a mega pokemon is insane to me. To me Ash and Pikachu is showing what a true Pokemon Master is all about.
Wait what bro didn't put infernape in list , at least he should mention him , bro has serious issues with him ,he mentioned sceptile i loved it but infernape has highest win rate
@@thatboyminus My Mans Beat A Metagross As A Chimchar And One Shot Pauls Ursaring In His Blazed-Form As A Chimchar Like What Bro. Not To Mention Infernape's Win Rate Can Cover His Lack Of Feats Cause He Is One Of Ash's Highest Win Rated Pokemon.
@@thatboyminus Bro Infernape's Win Rate Is Enough To Cover His Lack Of feats Not To Mention His Blazed-Form And The Fact He Beat A Metagross As A Chimchar Not Once But Twice And He One Shot Paul's Ursaring That Swept Most Of Ash's Team In The Lake Acuaty Battle As A Chimchar In His Blazed-Form And He Didn't Even Lose To Moltres To.
@@mapleshadow22070 My Man's Please Stop Capping, Infernape Vs Alain's Zard Would Be As Close Like Ash Greninja Vs Mega Zard X. (In My Opinion At Least -_-)
@@inktirrell5016 well considering infernape couldn't really damage a moltres and got bullied by it while alain's mcx slammed 50% zygarde I dont think the fight is close im sorry, I love infernape he's my 2nd fav ash mon after greninja but he literally doesn't come close to alain's zard or greninja
I think the writers for pokemon journeys hated Ash-Greninja. Maybe that's the reason why Ash-Greninja was never seen again after the pokemon xy series. Plus that's why Ash-Greninja got nerfed in pokemon scarlet and violet. How stupid is that.
If ash's Charizard had DeMega He would be one of the strongest charizard if not the strongest Even if he didn't get that powerfull of a form he could had a great plot armor
Ash’s greninja definitely deserves to be over Alain currently. It could arguably be considered relative to Cynthia’s garchomp based off of scaling above ash’s lucario
there is no proof that it surpassed Alain's Charizard since it never beat it and kept losing. And while Greninja protected Kalos, Charizard helped Alain get to Masters 8 and even defeat Leon's op Rillaboom
Bro you r actually insane ash’s dragonite defeated iris haxorus and you put dragonite in honurable mentions haxorus in the no.9th position didn’t expect this from you
I feel like Flint is the very definition of "Elite 4", and the definition of that Rank in contrast to other Titles. We actually saw Flint battle 4 separate times. Against a Trainer: Ash, Which Flint Won. Against a Gym Leader: Jasmine, Which Flint Won. Against a Regional Champion: Cynthia, Which Flint Lost. Against a Regional and World Champion: Leon, Which Flint Lost. Meaning An Elite 4 member beat lower Rank Trainers, and Lost to high Rank trainers, in being The 7th Strongest in the World, before losing to Leon dropping him to 8th... and knowing how the Masters 8 Tournament works, we do know Flint had to Lose at least 1 more time, in this case, Probably to either Alain or Iris, since Flint was not apart of the Final Masters 8 Bracket, and the Trainer in 8th in the Trainer that Battles in the next Promotion Match, which is what Ash vs Raihan was. In my opinion, id like to believe Iris is the 1 who defeated Flint to become a member of the Masters 8 herself, given that would compliment the trend too, The Champion Iris beating the Elite 4 member Flint. But now... I wonder who Alain had to defeat to become a Masters 8 member???
@@thatboyminus Agreed! Wish we saw more of his team tho. Given his closeness to Volkner, I could see Flint owning a Magmortar, and a Rotom-Heat, and seeing that he is an Elite 4 member, and how well he handled the battle with Jasmine, I could see him using a Steelix too, as a reference to his D/P team.
Bro, This Man Never Ends With The Infernape Slander, Like Bro Not Putting Infernape In This Video At All, Is Mad Disrespectful. (Not Trying To Hate But Geez).
@@thatboyminus Bro Can Cover His Lack Of Feats With His Win Rate And Not To Mention Bro Has Beat A Metagross As A Chimchar Without His Blazed-Form And Not Once But Twice And One Shot Pauls Ursaring With His Blazed Form And That Ursaring Was Basically His Ace Before Electivire And Were Talking An Infernape That Hasn't Stopped Training Since The Sinnoh Leauge Confirmed By The Anime So He's Way More Stronger Than He Used To Be.
6:28 plot armour for ash???? Seriously???? Like he is fighting for 20 years and best he did were orange island battle frontier alola 5 years of victory (that's even with losses) and then you say plot armour for the masters 8 battle seriously dude
Clearly huge XY bias here. How is mega lucario below mega charizard x and mega gardevoir when he clearly has better feats? Mega lucario beating gmax togekiss and cynthia's garchomp in one battle is clearly better showing than others. Steven not only ranked higher than alain and diantha, but also his mega metagross survived ash's strongest gimmick that defeated a stronger opponent than mega charizard x and ash-greninja in past.
@@thatboyminus Do i have to say it again? mega metagross survived z move, which is stronger than Ash-Greninja and mega charizard x. I'm not going to write everything again.
So you could put lucario when ash almost lost at halfway in the final match he almost lost it when he fought Cynthia's He almost lost it early on in the match
@@grah_editz Blud is the only pokemon who has doged Pikachu's Z-move also he has survived it. And it has defeated Alain's MCX. It has fighted against the mascot legendaries.
@@Md-Samim-89 the tin can survived like 3 LMAO buddy woulda got fried into oblivion if he got hit by all, and metagross had to fight primal kyogre while mcx had to fight primal groudon who was wrecking primal kyogre, he fought the way stronger primal for a reason, and on top of that he has way better scaling as hes relative - on par with 50% zygarde
I would’ve put Lucario above Greninja tbh. I don’t count their first fight since Lucario wasn’t in the right state of mind and got way stronger after that episode. He’s also displayed way better feats and accomplishments.
The top 3 on this list were bang on accurate. As they should be
Number 5 is ok but where is infernape bro that thing would smoke any other pokemon
If Leon and Cynthia's aces were to square off, i could definitely see it being a close fight
I think Cynthia wins with Megas tbh
@@thatboyminus and an upgraded moveset
Keep Draco Meteor and Dragon Claw but swap out the last two moves for rock slide and iron tail
@@thatboyminus she could have had dig against Ash in the masters eight but i think Ash would have found ways to counter it by using bullet punch at the ground or either firing aura sphere in the hole or at garchomp's position after sensing her aura
Ya, it would definitely need something like eq or a rock type move
@@thatboyminus dig would be better for a ground move since it's not banned in the anime like EQ was, and it's useful for launching surprise attacks
For instance, think of garchomp using Draco Meteor for cover while she hid underground with dig and struck from below
My personal top 10;
10)Leon's busted Rillaboom/Lance's Dragonite
9)Iris' Haxorus
8)Alan's Charizard
7)Ash's Lucario
6)Diantha's Gardevoir
5)Steven's Metagross
4)Ash's Greninja
3)Cynthia's Grachomp
2)Leon's Charizard
1)Ash's Pikachu
Great list, lots of similarities. I regret not putting Leon’s Rillaboom at least as an HM 🤦
Ash's greninja in journeys got so stronger he would wipe the floor with alain's mega Charizard he was so fast that lucario couldn't even see him his shurikens look way bigger and his punch sent lucario flying a Pokemon who is a steel type which is supposed to have insane durability all of this was done by base greninja even without Ash's greninja form
Where's my boy Infernape
More accurate
Where ash charzaid he should below greninja
The only reason why Pikachu beating Steven’s Metagross didn’t bother me is cuz Pikachu has literally beaten every Metagross it’s ever battled 😂
Still one of the craziest feats to be undefeated against that one Pseudo Legendary.
Mega metagross with 700 base stats 💀
Anabel in the battle frontier used a Metagross to take down Pikachu in Ash's first fight with her, in the rematch it tied with Ash's Tauros. leaving Pikachu to fight and beat her Espeon.
@@dethtroy2185 fuck, that was so long ago that I totally forgot.
@@hyperstargaming6150 it's understandable
I have seen so many of your videos im surprised I haven't subscribed yet soooooooooo just subbed.
Thanks! What did you think of these rankings?
@thatboyminus I agree with it although I surprised Leon Rillaboom didn't even make the honorable mentions
@@jcg7609he wiped out more than half dynthia team😅
@@thatboyminus i kinda was hoping for Infeenape even if it just an honorable mention. You did mention Pauls Ace and at that moment i thougt he would at least be mentioned.
Ash's greninja and lucario training more together wouldve been a fun arc man
Great list. Although I personally think that Greninja and Alain's Charizard should not be higher than Gardevoir and Metagross at all. Greninja didn't participate in M8 at all. Leon's Rillaboom should be in the list over it. Iris's Haxorus fought toe to toe with Mega Garchomp while Alain's Mega Charizard X got stomped by a Charizard without any battle gimmick on that fight.
My personal top 10 list:
10. Lance's Dragonite
9. Ash's Lucario
8. Leon's Rillaboom
7. Alain's Charizard
6. Iris's Haxorus
5. Steven's Metagross
4. Diantha's Gardevoir
3. Cynthia's Garchomp
2. Leon's Charizard
1. Ash's Pikachu
I agree with that: he said there would be no hypotheticals for this ranking, but what he said about Ash-Greninja is just that, considering we never actually got to see it use the form after it reunited with Ash. Also consider that this was before Lucario mastered it's aura bond with Ash, and by extension, before it beat Cynthia's OP Garchomp in the Masters 8 tournament, so it's unknown how much more powerful Greninja would truly be if Ash actually used it again
Why is ash charizard not on the list
Greninja did fight Gardevoir and had the upper hand until he and Ash fell unconscious. Not participating in the M8 was just a writing decision to have Ash use his Galar team. The only Pokemon Ash used that were stronger than greninja were Pikachu and maybe Lucario
ngl i think raihans duraludon gotta take that 10th spot
Wtf ash's lucario is not stronger than ash's greninja
No mention of infernape is criminal
i clicked on this video cuz of infernape in thumbnail.
I mean Infernape's backstory and character arc was great and it was a beast in the Sinnoh Anime but it didn't make much of and appearance after that. Yeah it appeared again in Journeys but Lost to Moltres.... so it doesn't have much of a feat to include it
@@deathkiller2.0bs60 they only made it lose to moltres to give Gary the spotlight. They only let it use like 2 moves before letting Gary do his thing. Like if they showed blaze and actually put effort into the episode it would have done way better. It doesn’t have a lot of feats but in journeys it was implied to be ash’s strongest fire type. It fought all of ash’s fire types looking for a challenge and eventually sought a legendary, indicating that charizard wasn’t enough. Plus it was front and center when teaching gengar will o wisp. I stg the franchise hates gen 4
He would be the 11th
@@ronelljoshuamagcalas7705 that’s crazy considering he has one of the highest win rates of all of ash’s pokemon, if not the highest win rate
He torched a bunch of spearrow with one thunder in a rainstorm in episode one. At some point Pikachu watched Ash die a second time right in front of him when Ash turned into particle dust and Pikachu electo-nuked everything in I think like a 20 mile radius. Let's be honest with ourselves, with feats such as those to Pikachu's name, was there ever really any doubts?
Pikachu gets its power from feeling and the friendship and bond from ash that’s it plot armor
i think drakes dragonite with 10 moves should be an honorable mention
So you put ash's lucario on the list. not ash's charizard.. ..
Lucario did the impossible, he took down that Garchomp.
@@cjleehazeYou mean lucario is better than Charizard..??
Are you crazy😂😂
@@TheBarsho Outside of general type matchups, what proof to the contrary is there?
When Charizard can beat at least one champion level Pokemon, then I'll consider it
Greninja came close and had the potential to beat one even with the bond phenomenon not perfected yet, and Lucario beat three champion level Pokemon during the masters eight
@@eljordinio7647 Blud is speaking facts. Why I will always say Lucario was a powerhouse in journey. I will say hands down that Lucario is literally one of Ash's best Pokémon.
My bro. You said one of your rules was no 'what ifs' them proceeded to say Stevens metagross hasn't won but deserves top 10 spot???
Just curious what your rankings would be for the Aces of Ash's Companions, like May's Blaziken, Misty's Gyarados, etc.
Could you make a video on that?
Hm. I guess one day. How does something like this sound:
Iris’s Haxorus
Brock’s Steelix (M)
Misty’s Gyarados (M)
Kiawe’s Turtinator (Z)
Goh’s Cinderace
Clemont’s Luxray
May’s Blaziken
Dawn’s Mamoswine
Lana’s Primarina
Mallow’s Tsareena
Sophocles’s Vikavolt
Serena’s Delphox
Cillan’s Pansage
Lillie’s Vulpix
@thatboyminus Looks good, but I would Blaziken a little higher in my opinion, especially above Luxray. Yes, we haven't seen him battle in a long time, but, when we did, he was proven to be even with a certain "Mythical Slayer" Ash owns. I would put him above Luxray and maybe above Cinderace. Cinderace has more tag battles/Had someone battles most often. Blaziken really didn't most of the time, even when he was a Combusken.
The rest look solid.. But where's Tracy's Scyther?
That’s fair. I guess I would put Tracey right above Cillian
@@thatboyminus That I can agree with you on. He was a cool Pokémon... Shame he was older, but still. Likable as heck.
Tracy was pretty much thrown in the trash after advanced
Paul's electrwire :🤡
Paul's grapion :🗿
Lizander's mega shiny gyarados? Took whole Ash's kalos team, mega houndoom, alain's Charizard and still unbeaten
nah it eventually lost to Alains Charizard
@KalosNinja
After wrecking the entire roster
@@sageblast3143 lol
How could a fire flying type beat a water/dragin type like garydose
I will contest the 9th spot, especially since your breaking your own rules, you said no hypotheticals, but implying that if Iris had a gimmick would've given her the win against cynthia, is a hypothetical situation.
Personally I don't know or get why they bothered making Iris a champion anyway, just because she became one in the B2/W2 sequels, that doesn't automatically mean it should effect her anime counterpart who's goal was to become a dragon master, not only that, but the title of a regional champion isn't something to take lightly yet we didn't exactly get the best explanation for how she got there other than word of mouth.
Not getting to see her win or show off the power that a champion should have is pretty bad, even Alain's past experiences were enough to prove why he belonged in the masters 8, with Iris not getting to show her stuff really makes you wonder if making her champion was a good idea, since from my perspective she was a martyr to make others look good, and felt like character assassination more than growth.
We didn't even see any team changes other than Axew evolving, and while her Haxorus did put up an impressive showing against Cynthia, at the end of the day it doesn't change the fact that Iris lost to her and also lost to Ash (the only battles we saw her in as champion) and Ash beat her with the element she's supposed to be specializing in, something that ironically he can't seem to do against Misty since when they are only using water types she wins, imagine the message you get from that one.
Here before this blows up
Yes sir!
I literally can’t make any adjustments outside of Lance’s Dragonite. Damn near perfect list 👌
W
Said he wasn’t going to do what ifs then literally did one with iris haxarous lmao ahaha I love this channel so much.
Wdym?
When you were talking about iris haxarous, you said if they could dynamax they would have won battles. But it’s not serious it just caught me off guard a little. This page is still awesome
The Lucario monologue made me realize that Ash's Lucario immediately took to M.E. vs the absolute DISASTER that was Korrina and hers first several attempts. Really shows just how much the narrative wanted to get across his bond with his Pokémon, on par with (or at minimum a very close second to) bond phenomenon imo.
Infernape isn't here? BLASPHEMY
Exactly Dude.
Can u do most popular Pokémon or ranking starters
I literally did.
He did starters but i dont know ranking pokemon
Bro Ash's Charizard also deserves in this list ❤
At what place?
@@thatboyminus At least at 5-6th Place
Why tho?
@@thatboyminus Ash's Charizard beat a legendary years ago and now it has gotten even stronger he recieved so much training after that if it got mega evolution it would probably rival cynthia's mega garchomp or at least give it a close fight bc Ash's mega Charizard would be like a Pokemon stronger than legendary birds in base having mega evolution which would be insanely strong
@@SyedAli-gl7jqa legendary which is Articuno WHICH by legendary standards is not much a big deal
Wow 1 min in and I did not expect charizard to be an honorable mention lol
Pikachu is the strongest pokémon in the anime, and he deserves that title. He and Ash worked hard for it and won fair and square.
nah man Pikachu is a mid-evolution monstrosity.
Ash's Charizard and Sceptile deserves a mention here. Tobias Darkrai and Latios also Drake's Dragonite.
Nah give this man a million sub
You make cool rankings minus, i subscribed
Nice vid I miss Ash and picachu the new anime not doing it
People forget A.J's sandrew from the first Pokemon series, he had like 100-0 unbeaten record by the time he defeated team rocket
Sorry wasn’t here when live
this greninja without any commands from a trainer could protect the entirety of kalos from the roots that pikachu and lucario couldnt destroy even one of together. with the bond phenomenon and just a bit of practice he could and would have easily surpassed pikachu
I don’t understand when I see youtubers making these list they exclude Ash’s charizard .
He was always a beast and fought like a real king
Dude there is no bigger lover of Ash’s Charizard than me. Unfortunately he just hasn’t gotten the opportunity to battle many powerful mons, at least as of late
Lucario but not Charizard ? No Infernape ? No Sceptile ? Except top 3 ranking everything was trash
bro Why didn't you gave honorable mention to Ash's Infernape
Not noble feats
@@thatboyminus Bro Beat Two Metagrosses As A Chimchar (Not Entirely Sure About The Second One) And One Shot Paul's Ursaring That Was Washing Ash's Lake Team In His Blazed Form As A Chimchar And He didn't Even Lose To Moltres They We're More Or Less Even In Strength.
@@thatboyminusdefeated Paul's half team single handedly. This crazy monkey also has blaze.
@@thatboyminushe beat the guy you mentioned paul electivire
@@inktirrell5016That's still nothing compared to what pokemons on this list can do lmfao
don't forget, lance's dragonite is also illegal
I dont leon had plot armor or pikachu against metagross because its a Z move thay can ohko pokemon like tapu koko and possessed lusamine and leon is the number one trainer in the world so nobody was beating him anyways
My opinion:
1-Ash Pikachu
2-Leon Charizard
3/4Cynthia Garchomp and Ash Lucario
(I don't believe there is a big difference in power between the two at their 100%)
5/6 Diantha Gardevoir and Steven Metagross
7/8 Charizard Alain (without the buff from the bracelet that stole energy from the mega evolution) and Ash Greninja
9 Leon Rillabom
10 Lance Dragonaite
honorable mentions to: Cynthia Togekiss, Iris Haxorus, Lance Gyrados, Leon Cindarece
Leon’s Rillaboom should’ve been an honorable mention tbh
@@thatboyminus fr that dude was busted
nah cause alan was so disrespected it shoulda been a rematch of greninja vs charziard
Fun fact: If a Pokemon loses and you don't see it again then it died in battle.
Perfect top 3❤❤
infernape in the thumbnail but not even an honourable mention 💀 infernapes blaze was undefeated
He lost plenty of times mate!
Good video 🎉🎉
❤️
Honestly think that third should have been ash greninja and fourth Alain charizard and fifth garchomp but I still love the list
How could Greninja be above Charizard?
@@thatboyminusafter protecting Kalos all the years.
@@Md-Samim-89
Even Alain has been training and there is nothing Explicit that Greninja has done which could be used to put him over Alains MCX
@@sageblast3143 It was clear that Alain has not grown his team that good. And we all saw how Greninja bodied Lucario.
@@Md-Samim-89
Lucario got much stronger after training with Greninja to the point where it one shot a G max Drudigon whom Charizard need G max tk beat.
Implying Lucario + Aura boost> Leons Charizard > Alains MCX>= Greninja
You should do how strong is ash Ketchum, how much can ash lift
Curious , it may be nostalgia, but you mean trainer red wasn’t strong enough to even get a mention
MMy top 10
Numer 10 cynthias spirittomb
9 lances gyarados
8 Stevens metagross
7 dianthas gardevoir
6 ashes lucario
5 ashes greninja
4 synthias garchomp
3 Leon charizard
2 ash Pikachu
1 team Rocket beawear
The beawear is super op! IT could easly win with pheromosa that is a ultrabeast and beated ashes Pikachu easy, IT could have beaten gazzlord if stafful wasnt in danger. Sorry for i ortografi
alain got nerfed so bad because of leon's plot armor plus bro hasnt locked in yet
Great vid but you accidentally put dont't at the start of the video
8:31 If you think Ash's Pikachu had plot armour against Metagross while Ash's Luacrio doesn't have plot armour then I don't know what to say.
Strongest dragonite?
Did you forgot that cheater with 11 moves?💀
Unless I’m mistaken, isn’t there an episode where ash meets the shiny metagross before it was caught by Steven or is this a different shiny?
I think my favorite Ash pikachu win was pikachu vs Misty's mega Gyarados. I see Misty and Ash as the anime first rival friends as Misty wanted to beat Ash in a battle since their gym fight that didnt really count as Team rocket interfereed. But when they finally fought truly in the Alola series. Man, Pikachu amazing feat of defeating a mega pokemon is insane to me. To me Ash and Pikachu is showing what a true Pokemon Master is all about.
"we have seen millions of Pokemon" bruv there are only 1k pokemon in the games
But we’ve seen millions of Pokemon. I didn’t say there’s that many different species
Wait what bro didn't put infernape in list , at least he should mention him , bro has serious issues with him ,he mentioned sceptile i loved it but infernape has highest win rate
But weak feats. Only really beat Paul, simply not enough if you ask me.
@@thatboyminus what about volkner , previous gym battles . Atleast he didn't made ash lose a legue where greninja lose to fire type seriously 😒
@@thatboyminus well it was season 4 and now at season 17-18 idk it would definitely, but for its competetions he was very strong
@@thatboyminus My Mans Beat A Metagross As A Chimchar And One Shot Pauls Ursaring In His Blazed-Form As A Chimchar Like What Bro. Not To Mention Infernape's Win Rate Can Cover His Lack Of Feats Cause He Is One Of Ash's Highest Win Rated Pokemon.
@@akashnadar1449 so ash greninja lose 3 times to a fire type 1 type against ice how overrated he is
What happened to ash infarnape
Not even a honourable mention
Infernapeinfernape should at least get an honorable mention
Imagine baiting infernape and then not putting him in. Bro like he went super just sayan 🤦🏼♂️
How tf did infernaPe not make it into the list 😭 he’s easily right above Alain’s charizard
Bro how? What did he ever do???
as much as I love infernape he's getting one tapped by alain's base zard
@@thatboyminus Bro Infernape's Win Rate Is Enough To Cover His Lack Of feats Not To Mention His Blazed-Form And The Fact He Beat A Metagross As A Chimchar Not Once But Twice And He One Shot Paul's Ursaring That Swept Most Of Ash's Team In The Lake Acuaty Battle As A Chimchar In His Blazed-Form And He Didn't Even Lose To Moltres To.
@@mapleshadow22070 My Man's Please Stop Capping, Infernape Vs Alain's Zard Would Be As Close Like Ash Greninja Vs Mega Zard X. (In My Opinion At Least -_-)
@@inktirrell5016 well considering infernape couldn't really damage a moltres and got bullied by it while alain's mcx slammed 50% zygarde I dont think the fight is close im sorry, I love infernape he's my 2nd fav ash mon after greninja but he literally doesn't come close to alain's zard or greninja
Top 10 gym leaders from each gen combined
We aren’t considering Pokémon Origins cause Red’s and Blue’s Pokémon would take up some of the list 😂
So you put Infernape on the thumbnail but didn’t even put him in the top 10 or an HM
Yes
@@thatboyminus your logic doesn’t make sense, infernape is definitely stronger than electivire and you gave him an HM, imo he’s top 10 easily
Lucarios entire run was on plot armor
Lance’s Dragonite at 10 is a joke especially when the pokemon at 9 couldn’t even beat Ashe’s dragonite
I think the writers for pokemon journeys hated Ash-Greninja. Maybe that's the reason why Ash-Greninja was never seen again after the pokemon xy series. Plus that's why Ash-Greninja got nerfed in pokemon scarlet and violet. How stupid is that.
If ash's Charizard had DeMega He would be one of the strongest charizard if not the strongest
Even if he didn't get that powerfull of a form he could had a great plot armor
1. Ash's Pikachu
2. Leon's Charizard
3. Cynthia's Garchomp
4. Steven's Metagross
5. Alain's Charizard
6. Diantha's Gardevoir
7. Ash's Lucario
8. Ash Greninja
9. Lance's Dragonite
10. Iris' Haxorus
Literally millions of different pokemon? So not 1,25? 😮
Meanwhile Ashes Charizad straight up dove into lava and survived!
Kukuki incineroar gets mentioned but not ash incineroar, ukw thats the alpha of alola right
Greninja should have been higher than Alain's Charizard
Ash’s greninja definitely deserves to be over Alain currently. It could arguably be considered relative to Cynthia’s garchomp based off of scaling above ash’s lucario
there is no proof that it surpassed Alain's Charizard since it never beat it and kept losing. And while Greninja protected Kalos, Charizard helped Alain get to Masters 8 and even defeat Leon's op Rillaboom
Bro you r actually insane ash’s dragonite defeated iris haxorus and you put dragonite in honurable mentions haxorus in the no.9th position didn’t expect this from you
Pikachu is over 9000
Power level?
I feel like Flint is the very definition of "Elite 4", and the definition of that Rank in contrast to other Titles. We actually saw Flint battle 4 separate times.
Against a Trainer: Ash, Which Flint Won.
Against a Gym Leader: Jasmine, Which Flint Won.
Against a Regional Champion: Cynthia, Which Flint Lost.
Against a Regional and World Champion: Leon, Which Flint Lost.
Meaning An Elite 4 member beat lower Rank Trainers, and Lost to high Rank trainers, in being The 7th Strongest in the World, before losing to Leon dropping him to 8th... and knowing how the Masters 8 Tournament works, we do know Flint had to Lose at least 1 more time, in this case, Probably to either Alain or Iris, since Flint was not apart of the Final Masters 8 Bracket, and the Trainer in 8th in the Trainer that Battles in the next Promotion Match, which is what Ash vs Raihan was. In my opinion, id like to believe Iris is the 1 who defeated Flint to become a member of the Masters 8 herself, given that would compliment the trend too, The Champion Iris beating the Elite 4 member Flint. But now... I wonder who Alain had to defeat to become a Masters 8 member???
Flint really loves challenging the higher ups, I honestly respect his hustle
@@thatboyminus Agreed! Wish we saw more of his team tho. Given his closeness to Volkner, I could see Flint owning a Magmortar, and a Rotom-Heat, and seeing that he is an Elite 4 member, and how well he handled the battle with Jasmine, I could see him using a Steelix too, as a reference to his D/P team.
Bro, This Man Never Ends With The Infernape Slander, Like Bro Not Putting Infernape In This Video At All, Is Mad Disrespectful.
(Not Trying To Hate But Geez).
To be fair, explain to me why he should be up there? These mons have all fought CHAMPION/GOD tier Pokemon. The ape has not.
@@thatboyminus Bro Can Cover His Lack Of Feats With His Win Rate And Not To Mention Bro Has Beat A Metagross As A Chimchar Without His Blazed-Form And Not Once But Twice And One Shot Pauls Ursaring With His Blazed Form And That Ursaring Was Basically His Ace Before Electivire And Were Talking An Infernape That Hasn't Stopped Training Since The Sinnoh Leauge Confirmed By The Anime So He's Way More Stronger Than He Used To Be.
@@thatboyminus You put Paul's Electivire on the list as an HM, so Infernape should really be an HM.
@@inktirrell5016 Infernape lost to Ashes Charizard who couldent top the list XD
@@KalosNinja_Unite Bro He Didn't Lose It Was Never Stated Who Won Or Lost The Sparring Match Man Confirmed By The Anime.
Brother you lost me at 0.49 where you put Charizard in honorable mentions bye bye.
And why for example is not sabrina here or ldr of the team rocket ? Lance is a joke as a champ of ashs region
What about Delion's Gortrom
Wrong Charzard in the list number 1 and more
In fairness, Ash’s pikachu has historically always beaten metagross
And Gyarados
6:28 plot armour for ash???? Seriously???? Like he is fighting for 20 years and best he did were orange island battle frontier alola 5 years of victory (that's even with losses) and then you say plot armour for the masters 8 battle seriously dude
Pickachu got that plot armour
That was friendship power not plot armour
Clearly huge XY bias here. How is mega lucario below mega charizard x and mega gardevoir when he clearly has better feats?
Mega lucario beating gmax togekiss and cynthia's garchomp in one battle is clearly better showing than others.
Steven not only ranked higher than alain and diantha, but also his mega metagross survived ash's strongest gimmick that defeated a stronger opponent than mega charizard x and ash-greninja in past.
How tho?
@@thatboyminus Do i have to say it again? mega metagross survived z move, which is stronger than Ash-Greninja and mega charizard x.
I'm not going to write everything again.
Why tho?
@@thatboyminus ok, I get it. This list is partially based on favoritism.
Sorry if I bother you
All good! Feel free to drop your rankings!
Ash-Greninja should be 4th on the list. He defiantly deserves it!!
Why tho?
So you could put lucario when ash almost lost at halfway in the final match he almost lost it when he fought Cynthia's He almost lost it early on in the match
Thank you I'm crying
Trips serperior be like I beat this pikachu as a level 5 snivy😂
When?
@@thatboyminusAt the start of best wishes. 1st episode i think.
Anti fear Hitchens razor genetic fallacy ignorant fallacy logical fallacy.
What if ash lose again in leon and ash battle 🫤🫤
What about lycander's gyarados. lycander's gyarados took the two kalos finalists and almost won against both of them.
Can you rank my fakemon
1-Ash Pikachu
2-Leon Charizard
3-Steven Metagross
4-Cynthia Garchomp
5-Ash Greninja
6-Alain MCX
7-Lance Dragonite
8-Diantha Gardevoir
9-Flint Infernape
10-Iris Haxorous
stevens metagross gets one shot by alains mcx and ash’s greninja buddies inverse is a joke in comparison with mcx’s and greninja’s
@@grah_editz go first watch anime
@@Md-Samim-89 you must be delusional like some other comments if you think metagross stands a chance to them
@@grah_editz Blud is the only pokemon who has doged Pikachu's Z-move also he has survived it. And it has defeated Alain's MCX. It has fighted against the mascot legendaries.
@@Md-Samim-89 the tin can survived like 3 LMAO buddy woulda got fried into oblivion if he got hit by all, and metagross had to fight primal kyogre while mcx had to fight primal groudon who was wrecking primal kyogre, he fought the way stronger primal for a reason, and on top of that he has way better scaling as hes relative - on par with 50% zygarde
Thats the sonic sound bite you used
When
I would’ve put Lucario above Greninja tbh. I don’t count their first fight since Lucario wasn’t in the right state of mind and got way stronger after that episode. He’s also displayed way better feats and accomplishments.
Yes but that’s the only real matchup we saw of them. Ya know?
I understand that pokemon needed Alain for the future of the series but personally greninja deserved to win in my opinion
Greninja is AT LEAST third. He has taken down easily the one who won against cynthias garchomp and a gmax
I think rillaboom deserves a spot here
Pokémon greatness
I am.
@@thatboyminus I was not talking about you I was talking about the tv show
Oh, am I not great?
@@thatboyminus I didn’t mention you in my comment
No overpowered grass monke rillaboom? 🤔