Why Is America Obsessed With France?

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  • The art, the cuisine, the romance. It seems like Americans can't get enough of France. But America's obsession is much more complicated than the simple appreciation of the finer things. Let's take a look at American movies and TV and see how America's obsession with France leads to hopeless copycats and, sometimes, animosity.
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  • @AYstrength
    @AYstrength 2 ปีที่แล้ว +912

    Nothing more american than doing a video about France and mentionning only Paris 😂 cheers from à random french guy

    • @Haasismijnnaam
      @Haasismijnnaam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Even worse... "France is a diverse metropolis"

    • @heisenbergbad5375
      @heisenbergbad5375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Is there another country besides Paris to Americans ? Maybe Marseille.

    • @loraelm2662
      @loraelm2662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Haasismijnnaam yeah that sentence definitely hurt

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      To be fair, he was specifically talking about the American conception of France, and that is pretty much equal to (a fanciful image of) Paris.

    • @Bubblegob
      @Bubblegob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@viljamtheninja Yes but calling a whole country a "metropolis" in the segment where he talks about the "real France" really doesn't sound good.

  • @antoinemercier5694
    @antoinemercier5694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +709

    Kinda funny how all this idealisation of France is centered around Paris, meanwhile you have French people from outside this city that also complain about parisian snobbery

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      There is a hilarious comedy routine from Patrick Bosso comparing the pretentious accents in Paris to the people who curse like sailors in Marseille, saying they grab their balls to show emphasis in conversation, "but not like the snooty perverts do in Paris which is just gross"... 😂

    • @Mic-Mak
      @Mic-Mak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      THANK YOU!

    • @Mic-Mak
      @Mic-Mak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ben-rz9cf Got a link?

    • @silentDD
      @silentDD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      honestly most people hate those that live in the capital, no matter what country

    • @mankytoes
      @mankytoes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@silentDD That's true, but I think other French hate Parisians more than most. Especially to Americans, it really dominates the cultural idea of France. I wonder how many Americans could name a second French city?

  • @0GarbageChannel0
    @0GarbageChannel0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    What's funny also is how french food is seen, as a real' classy gastronomy whereas in reality, majority of french food recipies come from the french working-class (from the people) and were made with basic food you find in the france's fields. Even wine is a popular tradition (even though less and less).

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Food in Paris is terrible and overpriced. I lived there for months and the best food i had was at home. I assume if you spent like 50 euros a plate you could get some decent grub but i literally had one of the worst salads i ever had for 15 euros and that was the "cheap" option.

    • @0GarbageChannel0
      @0GarbageChannel0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Ben-rz9cf Well I'm a parisian and always lived in Paris. I can assure you that this is a plague... You eat way better in the french countryside without paying that much, I do agree!

    • @florix7889
      @florix7889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@0GarbageChannel0 try the bouillon chartier (vrai cuisine française assise et moins chère qu'un fast food)

    • @EddieGooch
      @EddieGooch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@0GarbageChannel0 The best pizza in France I've ever had was a restaurant in a village between Grasse and Nice, and it's super cheap

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Ben-rz9cf That's pretty standard for tourist-dense capital cites but I'm sure you can get better (or at least cheaper) food out n the banlieues.

  • @henriqueaugustus1761
    @henriqueaugustus1761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    The funny thing about me being Brazilian is that we think the same way about the United States here. Everybody wants to be American and most businesses have an English name here.

    • @gamongames
      @gamongames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      its called imperialism.
      whatever international superpower directly impacts you is gonna be a cultural influence and reference of "classiness" (in juxtaposition to your own culture and the culture of your equals, which becomes tacky by proxy).
      exporting culture is one of the oldest form of soft power.
      baffling that the video managed to tiptop around saying that word for 12 minutes.

    • @DavidCelestialKnight
      @DavidCelestialKnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same here in Perú.
      I think All American Continent is very obsessed with USA.

    • @workingguy6666
      @workingguy6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be honest, for the Brazilians it seems to work. Many Brazilians who come to the USA find ways of making successes out of themselves.

    • @gamongames
      @gamongames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@workingguy6666 lmao

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@workingguy6666 Hahaha sure buddy.

  • @ArkhBaegor
    @ArkhBaegor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    I lived a long time in Paris, "wonder" and "romance" are definitely not the words I would use to describe it. You mentioned it in passing but the Japanese are waaaay more obsessed with Paris than Americans, to the point where they can get a thing called Paris syndrome, where they get disappointed that it doesn't live up to their dreams

    • @Hargazer
      @Hargazer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's not that terrible if the streets were just a bit cleaner

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's why Shibuya-kei (a Japanese music genre) was inspired by French pop music from the 60s.

    • @Sociotard
      @Sociotard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Much like all the the American weeaboos who get disappointed when they get to Japan.

    • @awreckingball
      @awreckingball 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forget Paris/French - you need to work on your command of English.

    • @ArkhBaegor
      @ArkhBaegor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@awreckingball Point to any mistakes because I can't see them, I'd rather not forget French since it's one of my native languages tbh

  • @georgiezcr
    @georgiezcr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    As a parisian, let me tell you paris is a beautiful wonderful city, but it's also hella overpopulated, cramped, overwhelming and expensive, and some of the people who live there have a tendency to think they're better than everyone else. In most of these ways it's actually very alike other massive cities like New York or Shanghai (tho paris is definitely much prettier imo), they're amazing to visit, but not so much a great place to live in.

    • @CesarGarcia-nd5xz
      @CesarGarcia-nd5xz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Needs to get rid of midd1e 3asterns, the ki11 the French vibe

  • @narniadici1976
    @narniadici1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Can I just say that France is so much more than just Paris?
    I'm just saying that because it irks me so much when I see people going on a touristic trip to the most touristic places in Paris, and then complain about Paris being ugly with too many tourists...

    • @nullakjg767
      @nullakjg767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well thats because we dont actually like france like the video creator is claiming.

  • @StephensCrazyHour
    @StephensCrazyHour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Paris is a beautiful city, but some of the smaller parts of France are really nice too.
    To talk about "France" though you are talking about a culture that goes back at least a thousand years. There's a lot to it. There's victory, defeat, occupation and conquest. There's culture, and then there's the demolition of other cultures by French intellectuals.
    Like any other country who is and was a world power it has a lot of self-contradictory things about it. It has things to love and things to hate. Like any other first world country really.

    • @kittavares4334
      @kittavares4334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheWatchernator As a frog, I can confirm this city is a shit hole. It is very stressful and depressing to live there, and don't get me started with parisians...

    • @erellggbg8744
      @erellggbg8744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheWatchernator a frog is how we're called because we're known for eating frog

    • @LutraLovegood
      @LutraLovegood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erellggbg8744 Even though eating frogs is even less popular than eating snails now.

  • @haltarys
    @haltarys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    As a French student in the US, I cannot state enough how well you nailed it. This is so accurate. Thank you!

    • @shinji906
      @shinji906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      malaise

    • @maigaskia
      @maigaskia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      prouve le

    • @haltarys
      @haltarys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@maigaskia Baguette?

    • @psychowill
      @psychowill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haltarys 🤣 I'm dead...

    • @LutraLovegood
      @LutraLovegood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maigaskia Relax gros

  • @TheDocteurHaze
    @TheDocteurHaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    French here, awesome video you nailed it.
    Just a note on France, it hasn't much to do anymore with what is depicted in movies from the french new wave. The only way to get a feeling of that french way of life would be to visit some rural parts of France where life hasn't changed much in the last 40 years.
    My best advice for you if you visit France would be to visit atypical villages, you'll meet warming people and see things that you don't know anything about.
    I saw that you planned to stay 4-5 days in Paris, good call, don't spend more than 4 days in that city.
    And visit a bunch of vineyards to get drunk in the wine cellars !

  • @democratie_et_esprit_critique
    @democratie_et_esprit_critique 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    10:27 “France is a diverse metropolis”?
    An example of French snobisme: France is a country and Paris is the metropolis ;-)

    • @araxiel2051
      @araxiel2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The city of France

    • @curtfoosss
      @curtfoosss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He meant Paris tho

    • @RealUlrichLeland
      @RealUlrichLeland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      France is my city

    • @democratie_et_esprit_critique
      @democratie_et_esprit_critique 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@curtfoosss I know he meant Paris, in fact that’s my point. When he confuses Paris and France, it illustrates that when foreigners talk about France, 99% of the time they just talk about Paris:
      “*France* isn’t just rich elite socialites drinking expensive wine, it *is a diverse metropolis*. Americans are not in love with Paris, *we are in love with the idea of Paris*.”
      As a southern French, I find that annoying. I don't live in Paris, in fact I can count on one hand the number of times I've been there. Yet, I’m as French as those who live in Paris. If you take a look at the other comments, you'll see several others who share my annoyance. And then, in the process, I couldn’t help but play with the stereotype of the snobbish French who corrects others.
      “Why do you think I have this outrageous accent? You don't frighten us with your silly knees-bent running around advancing behavior!”

    • @morgangrider7676
      @morgangrider7676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean France itself is also the Metropole sooooo. Maybe he just used the wrong word

  • @ArkhBaegor
    @ArkhBaegor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    10:30 "[France] is a diverse metropolis", lmao this is the most Parisian thing I've ever heard

    • @ssscunha
      @ssscunha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Right? It felt like he was talking about France as if France was only Paris, but France is a big country. Maybe he should have talked about the obsession with Paris, not France, but idk. Love Paris, btw, it's a beautiful city, and have lots of french friends, and they are just like any other people from any other country in Europe.

    • @ArkhBaegor
      @ArkhBaegor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ssscunha Nah, we're assholes, we just speak French when we're being assholes so foreigners don't notice

    • @yotayota99
      @yotayota99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or maybe was he talking about metropolitan (mainland) France ?

  • @Jenjak
    @Jenjak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I love when american actors flex their french but as a french native I need to put subtitles on to understand what they just said. Or when they use a french canadian man to play a french man though their french accent is nothing like what you could hear in France. xD

    • @Hargazer
      @Hargazer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Québécois is such a weird dialect/language

    • @ArmandDupin
      @ArmandDupin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      What's kinda insulting though, that, most of the time, american producers won't even bother hiring a french actor to play a french person, and instead will ask someone to use a fake, ridiculous french accent and mumble a few "merde" and "putain" throughout the movie/series. Look at the French in the The Boys, for example. He's an israeli actor who tries (and fail) to sound french. He's doing a decent job all in all, but whenever he speaks french, it's 100 % cringe.
      Meanwhile, when there's, say, a south-african character, they'll do their best to hire a south-african actor.

    • @Hargazer
      @Hargazer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ArmandDupin Because they really like the sound of someone trying to speak French rather than someone who speaks French

    • @Ghi102
      @Ghi102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same thing happens in reverse too. Many "Quebecers" in American movies are played by french actors with also the completely wrong accent. Really, americans really don't care enough to distinguish.

    • @remembertotakeshowerspleas355
      @remembertotakeshowerspleas355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ArmandDupin Since when has Hollywood cared more about hiring South Africans than the French?

  • @bcovery
    @bcovery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Greetings from Paris, France! Loving your work for years now.

  • @TheLegoPerson
    @TheLegoPerson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As an American student who has been learning French for a while and plans to study abroad there, it's interesting to see how others view the culture! I certainly always saw their culture as classy and in touch with art, but I've also been taught that the *true* France lies far outside the center of Paris, in the rural towns and much smaller cities, where the culture is much more visible and less overpowered by Parisian life

    • @LutraLovegood
      @LutraLovegood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There idea that any part of France is mort "true" than any other part is bonkers.

    • @michaelkeenan513
      @michaelkeenan513 ปีที่แล้ว

      Think of it like how foreign people talk about New York City. I teach English as a second language, and a lot of my students think of America as one large extension of New York City and get a little disoriented, when they get settled in other areas of the country. It's pretty similar with France and Paris. Naturally, the United States is much larger geographically, therefore there's a lot more room for diversity within the culture, but there isn't really a true homogenous France or America.

  • @willymedina96
    @willymedina96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In Mexico, we fought two wars against France (3 if you count the involvement of Napoleon on Mexican Independence) and still, dictador Porfirio Diaz, who fought those two wars, was obsessed with the classyness of french culture.
    People in Mexico City were wearing coats and scarfs on a 90F day because it was "snow season in Paris".

  • @SimonSees
    @SimonSees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The funny thing is that us French people are obsessed with America. We have the same kind of love/hate relationship with you guys. For many french becoming american is a dream. The start up companies love using english gibberish to try to sound like you. It's pretty pathetic sometimes, I must say.

  • @polarispyxis3136
    @polarispyxis3136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Perhaps also the fact that after ww1, a lot of American/foreign intellectuals and writers like Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Picasso, (aka The Lost Generation) lived in Paris and it became a big part of Paris‘ history. Hemingway even wrote the book A Moveable Feast about his years as a young writer in Paris and all the interesting people that he met and the cafes/bookstores they went to, I know I definitely had francophilia for a while after reading it lol

    • @starry_lis
      @starry_lis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget Stein

  • @IStMl
    @IStMl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    What will always amaze me is that France has the best military record ever, yet some people decide to focus on one 5 years war that they lost because they didn't want another one

    • @zomarlangdel2701
      @zomarlangdel2701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      this "white flag" reputation actuallly comes from the refusal of france to go in Irak in 2002, military's propaganda started to portray them as losers, and it spread accros the mainstream culture

    • @IStMl
      @IStMl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zomarlangdel2701 ik

  • @Mic-Mak
    @Mic-Mak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My biggest issue with this is that American media often leans hard into stereotypes when representing other cultures. What makes it worse is that the people of those cultures will lean into that stereotype too when abroad if they believe it will give them social capital.

  • @ankurama42
    @ankurama42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love how you put that chekov's gun on the left shoulder and fired it

  • @navidkiaran2846
    @navidkiaran2846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As someone born in Iran who’s lived in Uk most of my life and has visited Paris /France few times , it’s beautiful but as you say it’s more the idea of it that sounds better then what it is

  • @DavidGossettMusic
    @DavidGossettMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    9:10 "How out of place a Formula 1 driver feels on a NASCAR track."
    Meanwhile, Raikonnen, Villeneuve, Piquet Jr., Montoya, etc. all had stints in Nascar. Also, F1 is racing at COTA this weekend, which also hosts NASCAR, and Daniel Ricciardo is driving Dale Earnhardt's car around the track to celebrate his Monza win.
    Side note: Jean Girad bears an uncannily resemblance to Simon Pagenaud, a French driver, Indy 500 winner, and IndyCar champion.
    Side note #2: Manouche Jazz (think French stereotype acoustic guitar music) is an interesting amalgamation of US and French culture. Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grappelli reinterpreted American Jazz harmony through the lens of French-Romani stylings. In turn it inspired a certain pop musician/inventor by the name of Les Paul.

  • @weakspine1647
    @weakspine1647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see you in my subscription tab again! I've watched you for years and get excited everytime to see your uploads.

  • @sarahthompson8098
    @sarahthompson8098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excited to see your channel hit 1million subscribers, because you certainly deserve it.

  • @celesteporterstout
    @celesteporterstout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    French viewer here.
    I loved every second of this. Keep up with the good work

  • @redarrowhead2
    @redarrowhead2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As an American that can be classified as a francophile based on the definition explored in this video, I like the French language, French cuisine, and historically French architecture. Heck, even traditional French music, aka chansons/songs from the 50s-80s, I really really like depending on the artist.
    France is a changing/dynamic country however, and that is important to understand. Just as 80s US looked very different culturally than today's US; so did France.
    So just because you like France a lot, you may actually mostly like certain parts of its history or pieces of its culture that were more relevant at one time than another.
    Is there a certain degree of elitism? Yes, but a lot of things that appear "fine" and exclusive appear that way, such as people who enjoy fine-dining a lot, a strong preference towards classical music, or expensive cars/clothing.
    I love different things about France; I just think some elements are very beautiful and elegant.

  • @sunilprajapati6377
    @sunilprajapati6377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I never thought I would see a serious explanation of a meme.

    • @Bubblegob
      @Bubblegob 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know a whole channel entirely dedicated to seriously explain meme... but it's french.

    • @nullakjg767
      @nullakjg767 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What meme? You mean a 150 year old stereotype? French is synonymous with coward in america.

    • @LutraLovegood
      @LutraLovegood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nullakjg767 Stereotypes are memes. Memes are units of culture. Read Dawkins.

  • @bobiboulon
    @bobiboulon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think US citizens can have 2 shocks: when they come to Paris the first time, discovering that everything and everyone is not quite like they imagined. And then when they come back for a longer stay, and actually get to know France and French people. :P

    • @phhifan
      @phhifan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      u mean japanese citizens
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

    • @bobiboulon
      @bobiboulon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@phhifan Yeah, also. ^^

  • @PierrotDelKino
    @PierrotDelKino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really enjoyed this video, and as a french, I've seen this thing in my french point of view and, yes, Hollywood seems obsessed with France. Every time I see an american movie that shows us France with my mother, she is like "this is so cliché". But Hollywood is not only obsessed with an ideal France that is not real but only with Paris. In your video, there's a lot of pictures of France, real or stage set, but it's Paris every time, and I think it tells us an other thing about this american vision of France, like there is only Paris in France (and when you're french, you think that Paris is a dirty town with grumpy people). France is waaaaaay more than Paris, believe me, and even here whe don't have a lot of movies to show us that (french movies happens almost all the time in Paris because the parisien people are making all the movies). And In France, even if we are indeed bunch of proud elitist, I think we have an inferiority complex about USA and its cultural hegemony. (And for everybody who saw The Queen's Gambit, "Pastis" is from Marseille, not Paris xD)

  • @amelie4890
    @amelie4890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a French Canadian and growing up in a culture that is pretty much a mix between French and American culture, I always thought this whole obsession with France in the American media is cringy and so not accurate.

    • @dessfred
      @dessfred 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Les français aussi rêvent des États-Unis, mais en bout de ligne, ils finissent à Montréal. :D

    • @michellelancaster1842
      @michellelancaster1842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s cringe because of the American and Canadian histories of francophone discrimination. My father was forced to learn English in school to get rid of his French-ness and meanwhile, rich American’s are sending their children to French speaking daycares. That’s why it feels cringe here.

  • @lefutur72
    @lefutur72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omg Dexter is literally saying SCRUMBBLED EGGS WITH CHEESE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Ghi102
      @Ghi102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      An omelette isn't quite the same thing as "scrambled eggs" though.

    • @doesnt_exist_
      @doesnt_exist_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ghi102 And even if he was, scrambled eggs with cheese rules

    • @pierrickpatrygobeil3724
      @pierrickpatrygobeil3724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and he should be saying ''Omelette au fromage'', instead of ''omelette du fromage''

  • @lemonringo566
    @lemonringo566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    1:20 "my flight got canceled for some reason"
    Ahh yes, I understood that reference.

    • @marrubium8559
      @marrubium8559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      10 years in the future people watching this video will not get it.

  • @ondrejlukac5769
    @ondrejlukac5769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Czech I just want to say that many movies located in Paris were actually due to financial reasons shooted in Prague. Les Misérables (1998) for example.

  • @danvocals123
    @danvocals123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant, man. Love your videos

  • @IknowImboring
    @IknowImboring 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid!

  • @EmilyExplosion27
    @EmilyExplosion27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just SO excited to see clips from Trouble in Paradise. It is one of my favorite classic films, and no one else has ever heard of it!

  • @juan.zabala
    @juan.zabala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good job. Now we need to see the one about how the French obsess with the US.

  • @TheCrimsonPope
    @TheCrimsonPope 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A big thumbs up for the Fleabag reference! Gosh I need to watch this series again!

  • @connoranovick8546
    @connoranovick8546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was super interesting. Great job.

  • @16CharlyV
    @16CharlyV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think this is really revealing about how Hollywood media tries to appropiate any culture. As a mexican I see directors like Tarantino or Robert Rodriguez (who actually is from latino descent) trying to look hip using mexican characters, using mexican slang or writing dialogue in spanish and it always sounds awful. Not even gramatically correct.
    Both of them look like american tourists trying to be cool around the locals and always embarrasing themselves.

    • @starry_lis
      @starry_lis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wait, isn't Rodriguez Mexican? I thought he first made the original "El Mariachi" in Mexico, before he got to do the Hollywood version.

    • @16CharlyV
      @16CharlyV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@starry_lis His parents are. He was born and raised in Texas. I don't remember too much about the original Mariachi, but all his hollywood films that feature mexican characters and spanish dialogue is janky in some way or another. Like "Paris, Hollywood", Rodriguez seems to portray "Mexico, Hollywood" in his films. Tons of sepia filter, random spanish words in products and obnoxious american characters (like Tarantino) trying to speak spanish.

    • @beniaminorocchi
      @beniaminorocchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@16CharlyV el mariachi was shot in Mexico with local unprofessional actors (the budget for the entire movie was around 7k dollars). I get what you're saying about his movie though, even as an Italian, but I think it has more to do with the audience he's speaking to

    • @starry_lis
      @starry_lis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@16CharlyV thanks, man! From what I read, he did indeed use Mexican cast in that film, including the eponymous mariachi, but it was shot in the USA, near the border.

  • @volvomodus
    @volvomodus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great examination of a topic I wasn't even really aware of

  • @vincentknight27
    @vincentknight27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! As you said this doesn’t only apply to American movies. I think Michael Gambon’s character from The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & her Lover is another great example for a wannabe classy Francophile.

  • @InsCevo
    @InsCevo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love videos where filmdetails are overanalysed, but its really, really well done. Very classy.

  • @NPJGlobal
    @NPJGlobal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm French and I never understood America's ambivalence with France... until I watched that video :) Thanks a lot for making this eye-opening video!
    Greetings from Paris
    Come visit sometime !

  • @mahloun
    @mahloun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i'm sorry about the cancellation of your flight, hope you'll get to visit us soon and find a French to give you a taste of both the real France and the one from the movies.
    Thank you for your work (and Jean Girard is also my favorite French in american movies)
    Bons baisers de France !

  • @saf_saffy
    @saf_saffy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Come to Provence instead of the tourist trap that is Paris! We've got great food, fabulous scenery and we're a friendly bunch if you can manage a few words in french, most don't speak americano.

    • @anoni6108
      @anoni6108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Provence is so nice, when I was younger my family would vacation there and buy soap and olives on the markets 🤣

  • @uncletrick1
    @uncletrick1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    France has been a long-time ally of the US. I love the French people.

    • @haltarys
      @haltarys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      With the nuclear submarine scandal, it might change. But I love you Americans too.

    • @ciggy_
      @ciggy_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      France essentially won the revolutionary war for the us, so yeah, pretty nice ally

    • @pauly260
      @pauly260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Our friends since 1776, and one of the few countries in Europe we’ve never fought, Quasi-War withstanding. We’ve fought shoulder to shoulder in two world wars & helped each other through every hardship.
      I’m proud to admit that I live one block from a building where Marquis de Lafayette gave an address with General Washington. As an American, I’m proud to say Vive La France!

    • @lizc6393
      @lizc6393 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I should have added that in my previous comment, from what I know, damn fine fighters... Lol, like literally some of the best in the world.

    • @remembertotakeshowerspleas355
      @remembertotakeshowerspleas355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ciggy_ They did nothing but throw us some pennies until the last quarter of the conflict. It wasn’t until after the US fighters started gaining momentum that the French started sending them real support. Now the French want to act like they single-handedly won the war, funnily enough using the same reasoning Americans use to make the same claims about their own involvement in the world wars.

  • @8Wallflower8
    @8Wallflower8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Talledega Nights is so UNDERRATED and I’m so glad you talked about it here in your video. Such an interesting analysis on America’s complex relationship with France. As a person who isn’t a fan of “that” type of comedy (aka most early 2000’s movies with Will Farrell & Jonah Hill) I can say Talladega Nights is genuinely great!
    P.S. Baby Jesus is the best Jesus!

    • @josenadie
      @josenadie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gerard reading Camus' "The Stranger" while driving was a crass AND highbrow joke that never fails to make me chuckle.

  • @JimSmyth
    @JimSmyth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Reminds me of a scene from The Wire where a ganster on the rise goes to a fancy restaurant, his girlfriend telling him that his money will make him fit in, but it's apparent to him that he lacks cultural currency.

  • @MetFanMac
    @MetFanMac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ironically enough, the original Chef Boyardee (who founded the food company and named it after himself) really was an accomplished chef in his own right.

  • @cc2016
    @cc2016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They are so obsessed with Paris only haha that makes it even funnier

  • @playlist1883
    @playlist1883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. I can't say that I never picked up on that ambivalence but it's nice to see a vudeo essay on the matter. Well played

  • @pagethreemodel
    @pagethreemodel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My theory is that the world's obsession with France (Paris) and the romanticism of Paris, comes from how it's been depicted in American cinema (and literature), which is world wide. There is also the association of 20th C prolific writers, artists and musicians - some of who were American, to France (Paris), being that a lot of well known creatives from all over the world resided there, or developed cliques/movements there. That is the only way I can rationalise the profound fixation with that city.

    • @beniaminorocchi
      @beniaminorocchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More like late 19th century to 1915. Most of it is because of Belle Époque, Paris was the biggest cultural powerhouse in the world for that couple of generation. It's all nostalgia about a time naive enough to think we had all figured out, before world wars

  • @Dr_marinamilad
    @Dr_marinamilad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to mention revolutionary road movie and the obsession to live in Paris and in the words movie Bradley Cooper found his romantic papers there .

  • @bellatam_
    @bellatam_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I read the title as why is America obsessed with FINANCE, and it took me until the 4th minute to realise why he kept on talking about France

  • @WHYNOTONY
    @WHYNOTONY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a frenchman I loved your video

  • @jqyhlmnp
    @jqyhlmnp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think our country has always had people obsessed with other countries ❤️
    Y’all ever heard of Brazil >:D

  • @corro202
    @corro202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.

  • @The1337Duke
    @The1337Duke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, that meme callback was executed to perfection. NYSI is a master class in practical implementation of your own reference material

  • @jaimem1978
    @jaimem1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great video as always. Until the last second I was hoping to see the Simpsons clip when Hank Scorpio asks Homer what his least favorite country is, Italy or France.

  • @Mellodreama
    @Mellodreama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this, been on my mind lately after watching "You" and the main char ends up in Paris and you hear someone with an American accent before you even know that's where he is hehe

  • @SR-zp4je
    @SR-zp4je 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And then there's the British relationship with France. We love your wine so much that we make special trips to fill the boots of our cars with it (a friend of my parents had a customised van for his Calais wine runs) and we like going skiing in the Alps and wandering around Paris as much as anyone. Yet we love to make fun of the French for losing wars, rudeness, and being better at sex and food than we are. Nothing captures this quite like the Blackadder quote, calling the French a nation that 'eats frogs and would go to bed with the kitchen sink if it put on a tutu'. Wly really. 😍

  • @Widdekuu91
    @Widdekuu91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's not just France, it's all of Europe, but you do have to check a few boxes first:
    1. Main character is a female teenager from America that has either blonde or brown hair and is gorgeous-looking.
    2. All the men she likes are dropdeadgorgeous, clever, talented, rich ánd absolutely adore her. They speak perfect American, with a slight accent.
    3. The beforementioned guys will drop everything in their hands when she walks past and the first moment they meet, the men act awkward, stutter, drop their drink, blush and ask for her name, before blurting out; 'You're...so gorgeous!' The American will remain totally cool through this, because American girls get this sortof response every day. That's what happens when you're American, your radiant appearance just makes everyone week in the knees.
    4. She then shows off a few of her talents, because she is ofcourse a very clever American girl. She can change a carwheel without getting her dress dirty, break a nail ór spill a drop of sweat. The foreigner is very impressed and is honoured she chose him to drive around with.
    5. A very handsome man has noticed the American girl too, but he is a bit more dark-eyed, dark-eyebrowed and wears a leather jacket that is rougher than the one that Weaknees is wearing.
    6. Both are heavily flirting with her and are aware of almost all her cultural aspects and her interests. Except for the modern ones, because those things haven't reached Europe yet. She has to teach them how to eat with a fork, how the Wifi works and how to wear jeans. The silly Europeans are not used to that sortof fashion.
    7. She's very kindhearted and accepts his pet-goat as part of the deal. The goat is usually very shy, but he absolutely adores the American girl, that is very good with animals, because her dad was a military man that was also a farmer and she had horses and he was a doctor, so he taught her everything.
    8. The sketchy, slick one invites her over and tricks her into going to a restaurant with him. She isn't very impressed, but she's polite, so she stays on the date. He then tries to kiss her, she screams and punches him in the face, which knocks him out in one, clean go.
    Luckily the other guy is there to witness how she's independent and he's mightily impressed with this gorgeous girl that is also very tough, without being masculine or muscle-y.
    9. They walk home, leaving the man unconcious in his car with no problems (because Europe is filled with sketchy situations like that and one more won't be noticed) and then he pullss her closer and kisses her. She thinks his kissing is okay, but he is impressed by her American style of kissing and thinks she's very exotic.
    10. The girl goes to work and finds out he works there too, which was ofcourse predictable, because Europe only has one office per country, since every country there is teenie-tiny-small. The girls in the office are quite masculine, with heavy eyebrows, square jaws, dark eyebrows and black circles around their eyes. Their make up is unsubtle and harsh and they have their hair in an oldfashioned bun. They're anything but sexy. They hate her.
    11. She asks why they hate her (and why they are so unsubtle and rude about it.) One other, hot guy, explains it's just the culture, but not to worry, they just don't know any better. He whispers he's an American, that moved there a few years ago. He smiles at her and winks, she feels more confident and starts questioning the lady's ideas immediately. Everyone is shocked by the bold move, but then Ami-guy says he agrees with her ideas and finds them modern and new. Like, youknow, Americans are. America is, after all, the centre of fashion, inventions and new things, that are very useful, beautiful and practical. Made by beautiful, practical and tough people that know what they are doing.
    A slow clap starts from the first colleague, the rest joins in and even the unsexy colleague with the shit-idea has no choice but to sit back down and give the folder with the project to the American, that may now instantly get promoted to assistant-manager.
    12. Everyone respects the lady now, but mister Weaknees feels insecure and thinks she's forgotten him. He speaks to the BoringBun and she says that she likes him. Right as America-lady walks in, she pressed her lips onto his. He pushes her away in disgust and nearly vomits after tasting her disgusting lips that smell of onions and old balsamico.
    America-lady is understandably upset and runs off, through the rain.
    13. European cities are falling apart, so while running, she trips on a shitty road and hurts her ankle. She's in a gigantic puddle of water, because Europeans are too lazy to put some cement on there and probably think it's charming to have holes in the road.
    She cries and walks off, after which Weakness punches a wall and screams that he's been so stupid. How could he not have seen that she was the one this whole time?! He shouldn't have doubted her and been intimidated by her beautiy and her skills. Why was he so insecure, OH, he should go after her right now.
    14. American lady sits at home, spooning ice cream into her lipsticked-mouth and cleaning the perfect 3-4 streams of mascara in her eyecorners. She's watching tv, but wait...something...something is happening. She sees the Eiffeltower in Paris, lighting up and it says 'Gloria" in shining letters. The same with the windmills on Kinderdijk, the Berlin wall, the Trevi-fountain. Every single European thing is lighting up with her name.
    She wonders why, dries her tears, puts on new lipgloss and there's a knock on the door. Mr. Weaknees has arrived in a suit, holding flowers, telling her he's sorry and that she's the most gorgeous and beautiful American girl he's ever seen and she puts all the Europeans to shame. "Please will you be my wife", he asks her, "because my heart cries when I imagine spending one day without you. I cannot bear to be away from such a stunning girl, please let me treat you like my Queen.'
    She tells him a one-liner that he doesn't understand, because sometimes he speaks English and sometimes not.
    She translates it for him and he smiles, very relieved and kisses her. A cameracrew has walked in, to find the source of those 'Grace'-lights and video's their hug and kiss. She immediately gets a call from her family in America, they've seen her on tv and she's famous now. Ellen wants her on the couch, Conan wants to hear her story...but especially your parents are so proud of you and want you back home.
    15. She travels back home, but has to leave him behind, because he couldn't possibly cope with her fame, given his Italian insecurities. He tells her that his heart is broken and he will never love another girl again, but he totally understands and thanks her for teaching him how to eat with a fork. And how to make proper spaghetti, the Brooklyn way, that is múch tastier than the Italian one.
    She waves him goodbye, he cries one tear on his perfectly tanned face and she leaves him, his dreamgirl, the American girl from America.
    16. She travels home, her family meets her and the press is instantly interested in her story. But she's just tired for now and the interviews will be given tomorrow. They zoom out, a big American flag is shown waving gloriously right above her and The End.

    • @Widdekuu91
      @Widdekuu91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *where I said "Grace"-lights, it should be Gloria-lights. I went with Grace first, but then changed it to Gloria.
      I also considered Faith, Hope, Becky, Melody, Madison, Chelsay and Sunny and Tracy.

    • @FormerNewAger-sb2ue
      @FormerNewAger-sb2ue 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      ....or Amber, Stacy, Courtney..
      You really made me laugh with this, you put in a lot of well known movie clichés 🤣👍 Nicely done

  • @livecoilarchive1458
    @livecoilarchive1458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ending with Mad TV was genius lol

  • @Jannesjeboy
    @Jannesjeboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you miss saying "au contraire" 6:17

  • @liefwerk
    @liefwerk 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I may be flailing at the air by saying that, but The French Dispatch has the best french stereotypes I've seen in recent American movies about France. Just the fact that the city is called Ennui (boredom) brings that movies to the top :)

  • @user-lp3ew1xb5u
    @user-lp3ew1xb5u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done.

  • @schmecklez
    @schmecklez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that subtle filter over frame in the meme transition

  • @TheOxydium
    @TheOxydium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hope you can come visit us in Paris someday. With this video, you earned a warm welcome and our friendship

  • @wheresmyeyebrow1608
    @wheresmyeyebrow1608 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video bruh

  • @AdamsFishingAdventures
    @AdamsFishingAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not one home alone reference "bring me back something french"

  • @mijouzouzou9150
    @mijouzouzou9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The video was great it's true that as someone French and not even from Paris those idea of the city you can see in movies always looks wierd and over romanticized compared whith what is know. At least now I know why :)

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    March 2020 was not exactly the best moment to visit Paris, everything was closed and there was nothing to see nor anyone to meet. I hope you will be able to come to Paris someday soon, you will be more than welcome! Greetings from the parisian area.

  • @nanardeurlambda
    @nanardeurlambda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have this theory that the reason franco-american relations are so contrasted is because we have two pretty similar countries but with very diferent attitudes. Sometimes, when I'm, I like to make a list of similarities between the two.

  • @skulduggerypleasant9008
    @skulduggerypleasant9008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Lmao watching this as a frenchman living in Paris is hilarious. Paris is stinky, noisy, ugly, overpriced, and overall not a great place to be 90% of the time imo. People are incredibly rude and the city is filled to the brim with crazy dangerous people walking the streets. However once one has come to terms with that reality, you can come to appreciate the really good stuff that this city actually has to offer, such as beautiful and historical buildings, museums packed with art that you couldn't find anywhere else in the world, some damn good bakeries and that sweet evening Paris atmosphere.
    It's definitly not everything it's cracked up to be so you can and should throw that image of Paris that hollywood has manufactured out the window. That being said it is certainly worth checking out.

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In other words. It's a big metropolitan city. I had enough of those, but unfortunately immigrants depend on living in those so that's why when people go to France they pack up in Paris, for all it's glory and misery. Because no foreigner is gonna settle in the middle of nowhere in a small village in the Occitanie or Côte D'Azur or wherever you're thinking.
      But still thanks for sharing. Paris is not hell but it's not the paradise that non french see in movies either.

    • @paulleroux4327
      @paulleroux4327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wsh, parle bien de Paris! 😂

    • @av84k74
      @av84k74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally, when I was in France I prefered smaller places like Avignon, Orange and other small nearby places :)

    • @skulduggerypleasant9008
      @skulduggerypleasant9008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulleroux4327 mdrrr déso le sang mais il faut qu'ils voient la vérité en face

    • @walangchahangyelingden8252
      @walangchahangyelingden8252 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll go there then decide, I guess.

  • @cinnamonbulla
    @cinnamonbulla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need the conversation about burgers scene from pulp fiction in here

  • @angelnolasco9723
    @angelnolasco9723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is funny because Porfirio Díaz, a former "president" (Dictator) of México, was obsessed with France too. It is well known that he was very fond of the country and strongly believed that México should be like it. He brought the french fashion and several other things to the upper classes. Heck, he even fled to France when he resigned to his presidency and I think he's buried there

  • @robchuk4136
    @robchuk4136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great example of this was in the FX series "Baskets." The main character, Chip, was a rodeo clown, but he strove to be a "serious" clown (a joke in and of itself) when he went to study in France. Chip viewed that kind of comedy as a more "sophisticated art" and he called himself "Renoir" and everything, lol. The truth of it was, he only took like 1 class, failed and came back home to Bakersfield, forever depressed. And the beauty of Baskets was the irony of the show itself: Chip being sad and pathetic fit perfectly with the melancholy clowns popularized by the French

  • @NosferatuFromtheLates
    @NosferatuFromtheLates ปีที่แล้ว

    One great example is the Valentine’s Day episode in “Hey Arnold!” from the 90’s. There is that dynamic you describe about expectation vs reality in relation to France and Frenchness, but also towards love. Dynamite episode.

  • @1.4142
    @1.4142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now do how France sees america, As well the 196^2 combinations of countries' perceptions of each other.

  • @lizc6393
    @lizc6393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's probably my favorite cuisine, and from what I can tell, parts of the country are quite stunning, I can probably leave the rest.

  • @wheresmyeyebrow1608
    @wheresmyeyebrow1608 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tres interessant!

  • @edelmeister.
    @edelmeister. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would be great to get your take on Japanophilia in the West, sort of similar to the Francophilia talked about in this video.

  • @camillevoyage9727
    @camillevoyage9727 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a French-American living in Paris, I love this hahahh

  • @Yanushkamusic
    @Yanushkamusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was waiting for a scene from Rush hour 3 where they make the taxi driver sing the American anthem!

  • @Napkinatorz
    @Napkinatorz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved France when I visited

  • @agathe847
    @agathe847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting! Greetings from France!

  • @c4iqu337
    @c4iqu337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey guys,the tittle have america right? but which country are u talking about? even cause america is a continent. someone could explain me?

  • @gm4984
    @gm4984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you go to Paris, take an umbrella juuuuuuust in case

  • @Eden-xx6fq
    @Eden-xx6fq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What you said at 10:33 is so important. Applies to American youtubers creating content in France too imo. The country is alive and not solely an experience. It feels like all the people who don't fit the stereotype of what *French* looks like -- because of race or class especially -- are simply erased and that's quite violent

  • @hes_alive
    @hes_alive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find so many foreigners have this feeling when they visit NYC.

  • @florix7889
    @florix7889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I lived in Paris si ce I was a child and it really is a magnificient city.
    I still get amazed by things I've never seen before when walking around.
    And yes some places are really romantic and beautiful.
    Some are awe inspiring.
    Some are disgusting, filthy and ugly.
    I think Americans idea of Paris isn't that off the real thing. Cliché ? Yes. But still they got the basics right

    • @LutraLovegood
      @LutraLovegood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know if you can count "only the nicest parts" as getting the basics right, and even then they miss out on a lot. They'll rarely show the métro, the homeless and destitute, trying to find a place to park, the old cramped twirling stairs, the construction work, the RER or taking the bus, any of the mairies, the most popular gardens, what most schools in Paris are like, etc

  • @lucatriscornia6895
    @lucatriscornia6895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    europe seeing america being obsessed with france is when the two weird kids become friends

  • @AllieAndPeach
    @AllieAndPeach 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the movie with Sam Rockwell, Christopher Walken and Colin Ferell???

  • @artloveranimation
    @artloveranimation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Through both positive light and negative light, I think Americans see France as escapism.

  • @gonesnake2337
    @gonesnake2337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnifique!

  • @isaiahpadilla7981
    @isaiahpadilla7981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Casablanca, Paris is an idealized memory, not just an abstract idea.

  • @Mufasa535
    @Mufasa535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respectfully very good editing but a simplistic essay

  • @AlfredAmeneyro21
    @AlfredAmeneyro21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mexico: Yeah, we have Porfirio Díaz for that too...