Thank you very much for your review which I enjoyed! One question: as the board has no coordinates, does it matter on which side of the board you place the white and black pieces? Or does the app always expect you to have the control buttons e.g., to the right (or left) of the white pieces? Theoretically it should not bother as long as the bottom right square is white...
Great question. When using the Chessnut App (which is needed for connection to chess.com), the App expects that the controls will on the a-file side (the left side if you are playing with the White pieces). This is just something to know. Some of the third-party apps will auto-adjust depending on the starting positions of the pieces (and so it doesn't matter which side you place the pieces), but this isn't a feature in Chessnut's own app.
First off thanks for this video, seeing and comparing the air and pro board and pieces in hand is exactly what I was curious about! Great review and I LOVE your shirt btw :) I'd LOVE the Pro but I think I will start with the air for now - I just want them all!
Thank for the positive comments! The PRO is fantastic, but the Air is undoubtedly better value at less than half the price. Absolutely nothing compares to the Air at its price point!
In terms of the quality of the pieces, Chessnut does sell a chip set. So you could take a high quality wooden set and (Gasp!) drill holes in the bottom of the pieces, inset the appropriate chip in each, and end up with a new set that the board can identify.
Yes, that's right. I intend on buying a set of the chips and installing them into my own chessmen. Most chessmen would probably already have an appropriate hole drilled out for the weights, so it would be a matter of taking off the felt, removing the glue and some of the weights, installing the chip and then re-felting.
I received my Go, and I enjoy using it in coffee stores, library. So, I ordered an Air today, not the Air+ because the wood pieces came with the set is not meeting my standard. For the Pro, at that price range, u can get a DGT e-board and a decent set of pieces! And I am going to keep using my DGT board, FIDE e-pieces with DGT Pi running Picochess 3.3 Lite (there are 60+ built-in engines).
Third party app support is so important. One of the fears with such devices is that the main app will stop getting updated if something happens to the company.
Yep. As per my Practical Considerations/Pros/Cons/Who is this For? section, this is a big board. Basically, a tournament size board - it deserves respect and commitment. I absolutely agree that the Chessnut Air, which is sized as an "analysis board", might be a better fit for many people. Pricewise, the Air is very difficult to beat at around USD$180. It's simply a superb device, but like the PRO, the experience is somewhat marred by a few engineering shortcomings, especially with the software.
Oh by the way, I ordered the lazy dolly you recommend. Nice hack to quickly change sides. Works better than running around the table hittig my toe on the furniture :)
@@DavidvanLochem 😆 This is one of the reasons that I think that the Square Off Pro is a bit of a non-starter with its soft/roll up board. Imagine trying to rotate that with a random match up! If you need to place it on a rigid surface that can be turned around like a board, it might has well have just come with a rigid board.
I would take the bottom off to check if the battery is easy to replace. The Chessnut Air battery was almost impossible to get to without tearing the playing surface out.
Yes, the access to the Chessnut Air is through the top playing surface. It seems that with the PRO, it would be a matter of removing the bottom panel which are held in place by screws.
Appreciate the overview! Disappointed that for so much money the pieces seem subpar with potentially poor quality control. interesting to see how the technology evolves over time and if prices come down over time.
The pieces are "fine", but certainly could be better. I'm hoping that Chessnut might release different grade pieces over time for the PRO that can be chosen at the point of sale. I do agree that QC should be better on a product at this price point.
I wish to get a board to play games mainly over the board (player against player) with recording PGN (and also online of course) and then analyzing the games. It seems that this board is not well adaped for this purpose. I noticed you suggest the DGT board but this board needs to be connected with a computer and I can only connect the board with à mobile phone through bluetooth. So the DGT doesnt seems appropriated. It why I am looking towards the iChessOne (to be available in november). What do you think about this board ? Thanks you so much for your very interesting videos. By the way I appreciate also very much your style, kindness and your voice... ! 🤗
The Chessnut Air and PRO can be used to record OTB games, but if you're only going to connect via a phone, I recommend using third party software rather than the Chessnut App. For instance Chess PGN Master on Android. That's how I recorded the game here: th-cam.com/video/B4H4LZq6l1g/w-d-xo.html As for iChessOne, I have no opinion as it hasn't been released yet.
@@chessnoob64 Thank you very much for the information. The eChessOne has been tested before its release here : th-cam.com/video/IGcJ38Qc0IA/w-d-xo.html Hope you will test it one day 🙂
@@gerarddelaxou9762 That clock function looks very nice. However, to be honest, I don't see any particular advantage of the eChessOne over the Chessnut Air/PRO for offline over-the-board play based on that video. Fundamentally, it comes down to the app. As eChessOne is far from release, the state of the app at launch is unknown. It might be excellent, or it could be rudimentary. On katzenpapa's video, there seemed like significant limitations with the app at the time of the beta testing (e.g., unable to download PGNs). Chessnut Air/PRO does have the advantage of third party app support, and this works very well. The Chessnut App works "fine", but you're not limited to the Chessnut building features. If eChessOne supports the same third party Android apps, then there will effectively be almost feature parity. The Chessnut Air/PRO can record games into internal memory without needing it to be connected to any app, and this may have some advantages in travel situations, but it might be a relatively niche use case. I'm not sure I like the need an external power supply/battery to be plugged in. That's a pretty big compromise on the design/aesthetics. I'm not sure the foldability is an important enough feature (for me) to make that worthwhile. However, without having it in hand, it's hard to know how big (or little) an issue it is. The other thing to consider is that the Air/PRO is available now while there'll be a wait for the other device.
@@chessnoob64 Thanks very much for your advices🙂 In fact I first red only the first part of your response as I forgot to click on the PLUS button ! Sorry. Now thanks to your commentaries I realize all he advantages of the Chesnut Pro 🙂 It is available, it works as you testify 👍, has third party support, can store the games in internal memory, and doesnt need battery to be plugged. The app Chess PGN Master says "Only available for Chessnut e-boards. Use this button to transfer OTB games stored on the device. The games are removed from the e-board after the transfer is complete./ Note / Make sure you don’t make illegal moves in OTB games. If you make an illegal move, all moves made after that move are discarded." So the only point to look at is not make illegal moves. In this case it is necessary to use a computer to correct the PGN if I have well understood. Moreover I wonder if I go back one move during the game if this will affect the PGN and if this one will be lost ? Thanks again for all your advices 😀 At the end I also wonder wether if it is possible to switch off completely the leds when playing OTB. Just record the games.
@@chessnoob64 Gracias por responder Entiendo que se actualiza la base de datos y se actualiza todo el sistema en una nueva versión que se podrá bajar. Una excelente máquina.
The Chessnut Air, Air+, and Chessnut PRO are all good boards for people wanting to use it for analysing positions. You can use third party software to connect it with Chessbase - see this video from katzenpapa for explanations: th-cam.com/video/rGz6x4HvxT4/w-d-xo.html
I just purchase mine this afternoon. May I ask you, how long did the shipment take to arrive to your home once you placed the order, How many days in transit? Thank you kindly, Jorge from NYC.
I didn't purchase the Chessnut PRO - Chessnut sent me a unit to review so I don't quite have equivalent dates. Effectively, I put in an "order" through correspondence when the PRO was in the initial pre-order (i.e., they weren't ready for shipment yet). That was on 20 Feb 2023. I received the device delivered on 16 Apr 2023, but I'm not sure when it had actually shipped. As I live in Sydney Australia, shipment would have been directly from China, and typically items take 1-2 weeks after shipping. When I previously bought my Chessnut Air, it took 10 days. If you're in North America, it's possible that shipping may be from Chessnut's North American warehouse.
Hey mate. Chessnut's website has the weight of the pieces here: www.chessnutech.com/products/chessnut-pro-1 I couldn't find the weight of the board, and I don't own an appropriate set of scales to weigh it. However, the board is made of wood and weighs as much as a normal wooden board. It'll be a few kilograms.
Hey, thanks for the message. Neither ChessUp or iChessOne have contacted me regarding a review so I'll probably not be reviewing them given that it's unlikely that I'll purchase it personally.
@chessnoob64 I can understand that.They are quite expensive. Do you think if you were to reach out to them that they might send you free boards for review? By the way I really enjoy your chess eboard reviews. You have a very good engaging ,clear concise and honest presentation.
When you played I seen that you picked up the pieces and placed them instead of dragging, i have the air model but i noticed you cannot drag pawns up two squared as it only moves it to the first square, is this true with this board as well?
For the most part, yes. The board is quite sensitive so with sliding pieces, it may place the piece on the first legally detected square. The newer versions of the app allows you to set a delay, however, which mostly mitigates this issue.
I also have the Chessnut Air, which I've owned for some months. This is a similar electronic chess board by the same manufacturer, but quite a bit smaller with plastic pieces. My Chessnut Pro only arrived earlier this week. Cheers!
In the same way that the existence of small travel chess boards that cost $20 and completely free chess apps can co-exist with $1000+ chess sets, the Chessnut Air and PRO are meaningfully separate products. I have both. I describe in the video who I think the PRO is for, and it definitely isn't for everybody. Is it good value? It depends on what you value, but I would agree that most people who are only casually interested in chess probably should not buy the PRO. The Air IS very well priced and a fantastic product. However, it is a small analysis sized board and this gives a very different experience to playing on a full tournament sized board.
Because by definition, blitz is a time control with 5 min or less for each side. As you'll need to make the opponent's move on the board as well, this will result in a significant disadvantage on average. The question is the following: Do you regularly lose due to flagging in blitz? If so, then you'll be further disadvantaged on a physical board like the Chessnut Air/PRO.
@@nicholasdisabatino1697 - I think the answer to this is self-evident. If you want to play rapid, or classical, or use it for study or analysis, or record OTB chess, or a computer opponent, etc. No electronic chess boards are good for blitz against an online opponent. If the primary goal is the play blitz, the best way is to play it online is on a computer with a screen and mouse, or OTB against a live opponent.
Nice review. Seeing how problematic was Europe for Chessnut with all the logistics issue and also because of quality issues with both software and hardware I will pass on the pro version and will wait for Ichessone to arrive in October especially that the shipment will be done from EU, Poland to be more specific. Also the kickstarter price of 399EUR is much more reasonable.
@chessnoob64 At the end of your review you said the Chessnut Pro is possible the best products in its class, however you have not specified what this class is, so any potential buyer might not be aware of the competition. I would say there is currently no other product on the market yet. DGT boards are better quality, but are more expensive and don't have built in leds, Millennium tournament board is also more expensive but again better quality and reputation. Certabo boards again pricier but possibly better. Paying 600 or 1000 USD at this point for a product to be used for many years to come is not thar much of a difference, especially that as you said the target market are chess enthusiasts. Ichessone is not yet on the market so it is hard to say anything about the quality although initial reviews of the prototype are promising and it is significantly cheaper than the Pro.
@@sephiroth6956 - the class are boards designed for playing other players online. For DGT, the only board really designed for this purpose (and hence, "class") is the DGT Pegasus, which is definitely not "better quality". It is a plastic board, with plastic pieces, with significant software problems in terms of online play. The DGT Pegasus also doesn't have individual piece recognition, but uses a simple inductive detection for a piece, similar to the DGT Centaur. Certabo boards are definitely interesting, but it's extremely difficult to find much information about them. Certainly they are expensive, once you factor in the board and chessmen set. IChessOne is not released yet. It isn't meaningful to talk about it as a comparison as reviews of prototypes and engineering samples have limited bearing to the final retail model. There are half a dozen other similar boards from other manufacturers which have yet to be released. Square Off has a number of boards. They have the advantage of self moving pieces, but, there seem to be fairly major software integration issues. Furthermore, the Square Off Neo/Swap has largely not shipped with the delivery date being delayed for around two years by this point.
you can actually play bullet and record them to the board. But when playing online you would be at a disadvantage. Lichess won't let you play blitz with it, only rapid or more.
I own both. I would say that the Chessnut PRO is definitely good. The PRO and EVO are different products. The EVO is great if want or need the extra features such as on-board training, using it for puzzles on chess.com and Lichess, etc. However, the size of the board and pieces are that of an analysis board. It is relatively smaller and with a modern aesthetic design. The PRO is a full competition sized board with a traditional wooden design. Where the EVO makes use of the technological enhancements with coloured light up squares and the screen, the PRO is designed principally for online games of chess using a traditionally-looking tournament-sized board. The technology is in the background rather than the forefront. For my needs, I personally prefer to play with the PRO as that is my principle use case. For others, the EVO may be a better choice. And for others, the Air might be better still. Choice is good!
That difference is the entire point. When using an electronic board, you only have to focus on the board and you don't have to interact with the device screen.
Thank you very much for your review which I enjoyed! One question: as the board has no coordinates, does it matter on which side of the board you place the white and black pieces? Or does the app always expect you to have the control buttons e.g., to the right (or left) of the white pieces? Theoretically it should not bother as long as the bottom right square is white...
Great question. When using the Chessnut App (which is needed for connection to chess.com), the App expects that the controls will on the a-file side (the left side if you are playing with the White pieces).
This is just something to know.
Some of the third-party apps will auto-adjust depending on the starting positions of the pieces (and so it doesn't matter which side you place the pieces), but this isn't a feature in Chessnut's own app.
First off thanks for this video, seeing and comparing the air and pro board and pieces in hand is exactly what I was curious about! Great review and I LOVE your shirt btw :) I'd LOVE the Pro but I think I will start with the air for now - I just want them all!
Thank for the positive comments!
The PRO is fantastic, but the Air is undoubtedly better value at less than half the price. Absolutely nothing compares to the Air at its price point!
In terms of the quality of the pieces, Chessnut does sell a chip set. So you could take a high quality wooden set and (Gasp!) drill holes in the bottom of the pieces, inset the appropriate chip in each, and end up with a new set that the board can identify.
Yes, that's right. I intend on buying a set of the chips and installing them into my own chessmen. Most chessmen would probably already have an appropriate hole drilled out for the weights, so it would be a matter of taking off the felt, removing the glue and some of the weights, installing the chip and then re-felting.
I received my Go, and I enjoy using it in coffee stores, library. So, I ordered an Air today, not the Air+ because the wood pieces came with the set is not meeting my standard. For the Pro, at that price range, u can get a DGT e-board and a decent set of pieces! And I am going to keep using my DGT board, FIDE e-pieces with DGT Pi running Picochess 3.3 Lite (there are 60+ built-in engines).
Third party app support is so important. One of the fears with such devices is that the main app will stop getting updated if something happens to the company.
I agree.
Sir, you have a very pleasant voice! Thank you for sharing this review with us!
My pleasure!
I love what I see, but the size is exactly why I bought a Chessnut air to play on my desk. My DGT board was simply to cumbersome.
Yep. As per my Practical Considerations/Pros/Cons/Who is this For? section, this is a big board. Basically, a tournament size board - it deserves respect and commitment.
I absolutely agree that the Chessnut Air, which is sized as an "analysis board", might be a better fit for many people. Pricewise, the Air is very difficult to beat at around USD$180. It's simply a superb device, but like the PRO, the experience is somewhat marred by a few engineering shortcomings, especially with the software.
Oh by the way, I ordered the lazy dolly you recommend. Nice hack to quickly change sides. Works better than running around the table hittig my toe on the furniture :)
@@DavidvanLochem 😆
This is one of the reasons that I think that the Square Off Pro is a bit of a non-starter with its soft/roll up board. Imagine trying to rotate that with a random match up! If you need to place it on a rigid surface that can be turned around like a board, it might has well have just come with a rigid board.
Thanks for the review! very informative and i wondered where you got your awesome tee? just love it!
Thanks for the comments 😀. My merch is available at chessnoob64.com
Thanks for the review. I think I’d rather save the money and just use my physical board. Love the sideburns bro
Thanks mate! 😁
Really good review. Thanks so much.
My pleasure!
Thanks for the review!! you said maybe there are some cheaper options for just OTB recording, is there something as good as this wood quality?
I would take the bottom off to check if the battery is easy to replace. The Chessnut Air battery was almost impossible to get to without tearing the playing surface out.
Yes, the access to the Chessnut Air is through the top playing surface. It seems that with the PRO, it would be a matter of removing the bottom panel which are held in place by screws.
Appreciate the overview! Disappointed that for so much money the pieces seem subpar with potentially poor quality control. interesting to see how the technology evolves over time and if prices come down over time.
The pieces are "fine", but certainly could be better. I'm hoping that Chessnut might release different grade pieces over time for the PRO that can be chosen at the point of sale. I do agree that QC should be better on a product at this price point.
@@chessnoob64 It appears they have now I believe?
They should open source the app so devs can help
I wish to get a board to play games mainly over the board (player against player) with recording PGN (and also online of course) and then analyzing the games. It seems that this board is not well adaped for this purpose. I noticed you suggest the DGT board but this board needs to be connected with a computer and I can only connect the board with à mobile phone through bluetooth. So the DGT doesnt seems appropriated. It why I am looking towards the iChessOne (to be available in november). What do you think about this board ? Thanks you so much for your very interesting videos. By the way I appreciate also very much your style, kindness and your voice... ! 🤗
The Chessnut Air and PRO can be used to record OTB games, but if you're only going to connect via a phone, I recommend using third party software rather than the Chessnut App. For instance Chess PGN Master on Android. That's how I recorded the game here: th-cam.com/video/B4H4LZq6l1g/w-d-xo.html
As for iChessOne, I have no opinion as it hasn't been released yet.
@@chessnoob64 Thank you very much for the information.
The eChessOne has been tested before its release here : th-cam.com/video/IGcJ38Qc0IA/w-d-xo.html
Hope you will test it one day 🙂
@@gerarddelaxou9762 That clock function looks very nice.
However, to be honest, I don't see any particular advantage of the eChessOne over the Chessnut Air/PRO for offline over-the-board play based on that video.
Fundamentally, it comes down to the app. As eChessOne is far from release, the state of the app at launch is unknown. It might be excellent, or it could be rudimentary. On katzenpapa's video, there seemed like significant limitations with the app at the time of the beta testing (e.g., unable to download PGNs). Chessnut Air/PRO does have the advantage of third party app support, and this works very well. The Chessnut App works "fine", but you're not limited to the Chessnut building features. If eChessOne supports the same third party Android apps, then there will effectively be almost feature parity.
The Chessnut Air/PRO can record games into internal memory without needing it to be connected to any app, and this may have some advantages in travel situations, but it might be a relatively niche use case.
I'm not sure I like the need an external power supply/battery to be plugged in. That's a pretty big compromise on the design/aesthetics. I'm not sure the foldability is an important enough feature (for me) to make that worthwhile. However, without having it in hand, it's hard to know how big (or little) an issue it is.
The other thing to consider is that the Air/PRO is available now while there'll be a wait for the other device.
@@chessnoob64 Thanks very much for your advices🙂
In fact I first red only the first part of your response as I forgot to click on the PLUS button ! Sorry. Now thanks to your commentaries I realize all he advantages of the Chesnut Pro 🙂 It is available, it works as you testify 👍, has third party support, can store the games in internal memory, and doesnt need battery to be plugged.
The app Chess PGN Master says "Only available for Chessnut e-boards. Use this button to transfer OTB games stored on the device. The games are removed from the e-board after the transfer is complete./ Note / Make sure you don’t make illegal moves in OTB games. If you make an illegal move, all moves made after that move are discarded."
So the only point to look at is not make illegal moves. In this case it is necessary to use a computer to correct the PGN if I have well understood.
Moreover I wonder if I go back one move during the game if this will affect the PGN and if this one will be lost ? Thanks again for all your advices 😀
At the end I also wonder wether if it is possible to switch off completely the leds when playing OTB. Just record the games.
Hola. Vine configurado para usarlo con lenguaje ESPAÑOL? Gracias.
Unfortunately, English only.
@@chessnoob64 Gracias por responder Entiendo que se actualiza la base de datos y se actualiza todo el sistema en una nueva versión que se podrá bajar. Una excelente máquina.
Where is the first board for people who want to analyze positions?
The Chessnut Air, Air+, and Chessnut PRO are all good boards for people wanting to use it for analysing positions. You can use third party software to connect it with Chessbase - see this video from katzenpapa for explanations: th-cam.com/video/rGz6x4HvxT4/w-d-xo.html
I just purchase mine this afternoon. May I ask you, how long did the shipment take to arrive to your home once you placed the order, How many days in transit?
Thank you kindly,
Jorge from NYC.
I didn't purchase the Chessnut PRO - Chessnut sent me a unit to review so I don't quite have equivalent dates.
Effectively, I put in an "order" through correspondence when the PRO was in the initial pre-order (i.e., they weren't ready for shipment yet). That was on 20 Feb 2023.
I received the device delivered on 16 Apr 2023, but I'm not sure when it had actually shipped.
As I live in Sydney Australia, shipment would have been directly from China, and typically items take 1-2 weeks after shipping. When I previously bought my Chessnut Air, it took 10 days.
If you're in North America, it's possible that shipping may be from Chessnut's North American warehouse.
You found the 400 dollar markup for a bigger board and bigger pieces worth it over the smaller board? 400 dollars??
@@GhostShip94 what other options are there? Most other boards of its size are double the price and don't even work as well as chessnut.
Hi mate, Do you know how heavey are the board and the pieces? Cheers from Melbourne.
Hey mate. Chessnut's website has the weight of the pieces here: www.chessnutech.com/products/chessnut-pro-1
I couldn't find the weight of the board, and I don't own an appropriate set of scales to weigh it. However, the board is made of wood and weighs as much as a normal wooden board. It'll be a few kilograms.
What are you using for a chess table? Is it solid?
It's the IKEA table I talk about in this video: th-cam.com/video/RNHyEkDAqq4/w-d-xo.html
Thank you!
Hi there, would you consider doing a review on the Chessup board as well as the ichessone board?
Hey, thanks for the message. Neither ChessUp or iChessOne have contacted me regarding a review so I'll probably not be reviewing them given that it's unlikely that I'll purchase it personally.
@chessnoob64 I can understand that.They are quite expensive. Do you think if you were to reach out to them that they might send you free boards for review? By the way I really enjoy your chess eboard reviews. You have a very good engaging ,clear concise and honest presentation.
Doe this have multi color led for best move suggestions or showing possible moves when you touch a piece?
No.
@@chessnoob64 So close to what I am looking for. I can wait it has to be close now. I want the functionality of Chessup with this look.
Great review, thank you so much. 👍🙂
No worries! 😁
When you played I seen that you picked up the pieces and placed them instead of dragging, i have the air model but i noticed you cannot drag pawns up two squared as it only moves it to the first square, is this true with this board as well?
For the most part, yes. The board is quite sensitive so with sliding pieces, it may place the piece on the first legally detected square. The newer versions of the app allows you to set a delay, however, which mostly mitigates this issue.
Did you not already have this or am I confusing you with someone else?
I also have the Chessnut Air, which I've owned for some months. This is a similar electronic chess board by the same manufacturer, but quite a bit smaller with plastic pieces. My Chessnut Pro only arrived earlier this week. Cheers!
How could this be worth 400 dollars over the smaller board?
In the same way that the existence of small travel chess boards that cost $20 and completely free chess apps can co-exist with $1000+ chess sets, the Chessnut Air and PRO are meaningfully separate products. I have both.
I describe in the video who I think the PRO is for, and it definitely isn't for everybody. Is it good value? It depends on what you value, but I would agree that most people who are only casually interested in chess probably should not buy the PRO. The Air IS very well priced and a fantastic product. However, it is a small analysis sized board and this gives a very different experience to playing on a full tournament sized board.
It's absolute nuts!
Very informative, thanks.
No worries! 😀
Hello, can you explain why this chessnut pro is not good for blitz?
Because by definition, blitz is a time control with 5 min or less for each side. As you'll need to make the opponent's move on the board as well, this will result in a significant disadvantage on average.
The question is the following:
Do you regularly lose due to flagging in blitz? If so, then you'll be further disadvantaged on a physical board like the Chessnut Air/PRO.
@@chessnoob64 , what makes it still worth buying, if the entire class of Blitz chess is gone?
@@nicholasdisabatino1697 - I think the answer to this is self-evident. If you want to play rapid, or classical, or use it for study or analysis, or record OTB chess, or a computer opponent, etc.
No electronic chess boards are good for blitz against an online opponent. If the primary goal is the play blitz, the best way is to play it online is on a computer with a screen and mouse, or OTB against a live opponent.
@@chessnoob64 , yeah that makes sense. I was hoping it could do everything but that would defy the laws of physics.
Could i connect this to my fritz 15 for analysis?does it support??
Yes, but via a third party software - Graham's drivers: goneill.co.nz/
Nice review. Seeing how problematic was Europe for Chessnut with all the logistics issue and also because of quality issues with both software and hardware I will pass on the pro version and will wait for Ichessone to arrive in October especially that the shipment will be done from EU, Poland to be more specific. Also the kickstarter price of 399EUR is much more reasonable.
Ok?
@chessnoob64 At the end of your review you said the Chessnut Pro is possible the best products in its class, however you have not specified what this class is, so any potential buyer might not be aware of the competition. I would say there is currently no other product on the market yet. DGT boards are better quality, but are more expensive and don't have built in leds, Millennium tournament board is also more expensive but again better quality and reputation. Certabo boards again pricier but possibly better. Paying 600 or 1000 USD at this point for a product to be used for many years to come is not thar much of a difference, especially that as you said the target market are chess enthusiasts. Ichessone is not yet on the market so it is hard to say anything about the quality although initial reviews of the prototype are promising and it is significantly cheaper than the Pro.
@@sephiroth6956 - the class are boards designed for playing other players online. For DGT, the only board really designed for this purpose (and hence, "class") is the DGT Pegasus, which is definitely not "better quality". It is a plastic board, with plastic pieces, with significant software problems in terms of online play. The DGT Pegasus also doesn't have individual piece recognition, but uses a simple inductive detection for a piece, similar to the DGT Centaur.
Certabo boards are definitely interesting, but it's extremely difficult to find much information about them. Certainly they are expensive, once you factor in the board and chessmen set.
IChessOne is not released yet. It isn't meaningful to talk about it as a comparison as reviews of prototypes and engineering samples have limited bearing to the final retail model. There are half a dozen other similar boards from other manufacturers which have yet to be released.
Square Off has a number of boards. They have the advantage of self moving pieces, but, there seem to be fairly major software integration issues. Furthermore, the Square Off Neo/Swap has largely not shipped with the delivery date being delayed for around two years by this point.
huh? I never had an issues with the software or hardware?
@@chessnoob64 ya i returned my pegasus and kept the chessnut air. its better in almost every way .
It's a pity you also have to use an app on your mobile phone too use the chess board
If you want to use the smart board functions, yes. There is no screen otherwise on the board.
you don't. you can record an otb game without any phone connected.
can it connect to DGT clock?
Not that I'm aware. I think only DGT tournament boards can connect to the DGT clocks.
I think, I have read sth about picochess web... You would need to look it up.
Too slow for blitz right
Probably okay for 5 min blitz or with increment.
you can actually play bullet and record them to the board. But when playing online you would be at a disadvantage. Lichess won't let you play blitz with it, only rapid or more.
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No cause the evo is better
I own both. I would say that the Chessnut PRO is definitely good. The PRO and EVO are different products.
The EVO is great if want or need the extra features such as on-board training, using it for puzzles on chess.com and Lichess, etc. However, the size of the board and pieces are that of an analysis board. It is relatively smaller and with a modern aesthetic design.
The PRO is a full competition sized board with a traditional wooden design. Where the EVO makes use of the technological enhancements with coloured light up squares and the screen, the PRO is designed principally for online games of chess using a traditionally-looking tournament-sized board. The technology is in the background rather than the forefront.
For my needs, I personally prefer to play with the PRO as that is my principle use case. For others, the EVO may be a better choice. And for others, the Air might be better still. Choice is good!
I just use my own board. Why pay $600. The only difference is when I make a move. I also have to more on the computer. That is a pretty nice savings.
That difference is the entire point. When using an electronic board, you only have to focus on the board and you don't have to interact with the device screen.
that ruins the whole experience and immersion man, the whole point is not having to play twice and look at the screen.