I have to say that your no nonsense style is very refreshing James. You obviously know you're unlikely to get a million subscribers or callaway banging on your door but you're doing something you obviously love, filming to a quite remarkable standard and bringing a great deal of enjoyment to us viewers
Nice to see a manager, who just cant be bothered responding to an email or a request, come out and not even introduce himself. only played their once myself and it was a horrid place, and horrid people in the club house. Carry on pal, keep smiling, keep cheerful and keep positive
Yeah "we didn't want you filming during this week, so thats why I didn't reply to you!" Oh yeah so thats a reasonable response! How are you supposed to know if he doesn't reply!? What a pillock
@@TheOldGrumpyGamerYes, because of course not replying means you haven’t got permission and they don’t want you filming!!!?? …….and after that says just carry on anyway. I agree. Total pillock!
stick the attitude, give me a well prepared course, as any real golfer would want. 'have a nice day you'll, apologies but it is winter greens, sorry it's a bit muddy luv, we have trouble with the drainage' ATTITUDE?
It just says it all doesn't it - 'That's why I didn't reply to your email'. If you are so concerned about the courses image then reply to the email. Only takes a minute.
Some golf people are just weird, I know because I worked in the golf industry for a number of years !. Just carry on and enjoy your game, you have a great channel 👍
I don't have an issue with them not wanting filming (although that seems a bit over the top). However, this guy taking the position that you should know what he meant because he didn't respond to your email is truly mind blowing. I should try that with my boss sometime. I'm sure that will go over well.
Yes but that's because he's your boss. If you email someone asking for something and they don't get back to you, then email or call again to make sure they saw your request. If they don't get back to you, assume it's a no. That being said, the manager could have been a bit more polite.
This pretty much sums up people who work in golf clubs in the UK. Only care about external perceptions rather than just making it an enjoyable experience. No wonder there are so many British golf clubs in financial trouble
A reply to your e mail should have been made. How many of you have paid a full green fee and then found the course and especially the greens barely playable due to maintenance, with nothing mentioned beforehand by the club? Things like this would put me off revisiting 😮
You’re obviously not a business owner. Returning an email from someone who is already paying isn’t top priority. Would it be nice if they did? Yes. Businesses just don’t have the people power to answer every email However, it’s not unreasonable to ask him to not show the course in a bad light.
@@chrispajak540 As a business owner myself, returning emails is top priority. It's not hard these days when we can walk around with our email account(s) in our pockets. 😉
He made a comment along the lines of “we didn’t want you filming during greens week, that’s why I didn’t get back to you” How to master the art of communication, not. Guess what most golfers 100% understand about the Need for greens maintenance week and accept it is what it is.
Secretary Manager (who is probably a nice bloke just having a bad day) doesn’t mean he owns the course champ. A good “businessman” would welcome our old mate here with open arms and make 72,000 friends rather than enemies. Don’t know what business school you went to, but when is driving away customers and knocking back free publicity a winning strategy? Just say the greens have just been cored, not as smooth as usual, have an enjoyable round……and I’ll buy you a pint at the 19th! Easy, “happy days” . Simple to fix too, just invite the nicest TH-cam golfer back for a free round when the greens are good and apologise for the misunderstanding.
Sooo… the website says “Our Mission: To provide members and visitors with a unique, enjoyable and competitively priced golfing experience in a friendly environment.”……. failed then. Great vlog
Man, I'm glad I watched your video! I'm new to golf and was going to start vlogging my struggles and thoughts while I was on course. I had no clue that some golf courses may be protective of their greens and whatnot. Thank you for putting this out there. And you gained a subscriber! Thank you.
Agree with the comments here and, having watched the video, people will steer clear of this club , not because of the course but the attitude and that’s what counts in life, how you treat and respect others and the tone of the club manager when speaking to you spoke volumes
In my experience, it’s better to force people to respond to your emails by loading the question, e.g. “If I receive no response from you, I will assume that you have no problems with me doing this.” Never ask an open question. That said, his manner was awful. He never introduced himself properly. If you met the grounds man on the round, surely he should have also spoken to you. I guess some golf courses aren’t in the business of being welcoming. It’s their loss!
Sorry to see this happen to you James. Him not responded explains all you need to know about the character of that man. I'm looking forward to your next upload already :)
That is the most amazing thing. So he came out and told you he didn't want you to film there and says: "that's why I didn't get back to your email". So apparently, if he doesn't want someone to come to his golf course, he doesn't actually ever tell them that. He just doesn't reply to their emails, texts, etc. That's insane
Hi James,,I and a couple of friends were intending to visit Holywell as I was born in Prestatyn and my grandparents lived in Holywell but after tht interaction with that Manager/Steward I think we,ll be giving it a miss,,take care,,love the vids,,Les
was a member there never again most, most miserable people and I would not go back I will stick with Mold thanks, come up to Mold James I will get you in with me at member rates for a round
So much craziness on the "manager's" part. If you think the course is too bad to show, then close for the period. Don't charge full price for a watered-down experience. I played a nearby muni last week and they'd knocked about 60% off the green fee because they were finishing up work on cart paths! But really, all you need to know about this experience is that the video did not conclude with the principle enjoying a pint ...
Every golfer expects green maintenance at this time of year, it’s not an issue, don’t know what his problem was with the filming, it’s not as tho you were giving a detailed report on the condition of the greens, the guy has found a problem were the wasn’t one !nice video anyway and you handled it well👍
Golf clubs are funny places and many have petty officials living out their school prefect dreams … Clearly the right approach should have been: 1. To respond to your email 2. Explain it was a busy course maintenance week and ask that you explain that in your video 3. Perhaps offer you a discounted green fee in view of the course condition concerns Any exposure is good exposure (even despite the official the course looked good and the skies were amazing) so better that you visit than defer and perhaps never come. V best
Agreed about course officials. My theory is that most of these elderly men are hen pecked at home and this is their only chance to exert some power in their lives
Absolutely refreshing videos James, As other comments great to see you bigging up N.Wales courses, As for the course manager he needs to realise private courses need non members green fees to survive. I'd say in my experience 99% of courses are very welcoming. I had one really terrible experience at a course near St.Helens more famous for it's racecourse.I was playing with 2 friends and was fortunate enough to get a hole in one on the short 4th. When we got back to the 19th hole my friend asked the barman if there was any special glass they use for hole in ones The misery replied with take your hat off in the clubhouse.We immediately left. TOSSER!!!
Didnt respond to an email is just rude - does he presume you have Jedi powers and should have known there was green maintenance and not allowed to film.😂 You handled the situation very well 👍 Keep doing what you do best, it's refreshing.
Well done James , handled like a gentleman , that manager is clearly an idiot and i hope the club see this and reprimand him with a training course on customer service , better off away from there .
For anyone saying the dude was polite, he wasn’t. It’s called, passive aggressive. Maybe y’all should look it up. “We really don’t like you non-members out here. Yes, we advertise that the public can play, but we really don’t like it. But now that you’re here, carry on and enjoy your round. Don’t let me disturb you. Carry on….but we really don’t want our greens displayed on TH-cam, understand? Cheers!” Frick that dude.
If matey had come over and asked politely for you to include in your video that it was Maintance week so the viewer understood the situation (just as you did) then no problem - but they haven’t done themselves any favours there. I bet no one else if going to give them any exposure and it’s such a quirky course with sheep on the greens, that does it really matter - all a bit unnecessary !!
Bet they didn't tell you the greens were under maintenance when you booked and paid! If the greens aren't good enough to be filmed then they shouldn't take money off you - the customer! I won't be going there mate! Enjoyed your laid back video style! Nice!
This exact scenario happened with me and my father. £50 each and the greens were unplayable due to maintenance. This was at a local course which we had played and enjoyed many times before. When we mentioned afterwards that they should have told us about the condition of the greens - we had phoned prior to book - we were told that if we went to the up the road to another course, we'd pay even more! What a bizarre response. Never been back.
This is just poor from them. Ive also had issue when ive booked paid and nobody told me its temp greens and even 2 less holes! Why not be upfront. Glad you posted this cause they will hopefully change thier approach when someone emails and asks a fair question.
If the secretary could'nt get back to you it would have been quite simple to put a notice on the first tee to say the course was closed but why were other people on the course ?? , if they can' tbe arsed making the effort to inform people about these things what do they expect you to do , they must think we're all mind readers , and as for the members replys it would seem to me they just want to side with there own club regardless of what occured , i know quite a few people who have given bad reports about Hollywell's members , keep up the good work James .
Really enjoy watching your videos mate Keep them coming. What a shame that the silly little man felt the need to do that. I for won’t be playing there.
If the course maintenance hadn't been mentioned I wouldn't have really known! The course actually looks quite nice. Hopefully that's the last time he intentionally ignores an email though.
The manager/secretary did more damage to his course than your video ever would have... People take note....Don't bother with Holywell. I hate these sorts of people and golf is full of them. Steer clear....
I would suggest closing the course during the maintenance week would be the best idea. A polite reply informing James of the situation would have avoided this debacle... Unfortunately, this has now brought bad publicity to Holywell.
Very enjoyable round, to a certain point. Nothing like approaching you mid round to tell not to do what you’ve been doing for a while. They are worried about course maintenance videos while they have farm animals and craters in the fairway. I say dust the sand from your sandals and don’t go back. It’s not like they are on the Open Rota anyway.
What a plonker. No wonder he’s the manager of a second rate golf course at his peak of career. You are a rising star and we always love to see the courses you play and which courses we will avoid.
Keep up the good work James and ignore the jobs worths. If he was that bothered about how the club looked, he should have responded to the email. The course looked in fine condition and wouldn't have put me off going. The secretary would though. Don't know what it is about some golf courses, they jus think they don't need to respond to emails - get with the times!
Golf today... returning to it's we're better than you ways.. I've given up again due to the type of snooty people who seemed to return to UK golf during COVID...
Enjoyable video. The course looks good and very scenic. You were not swinging as well as you normally do but the intervention from the manager just finished you off! My view is that he could have replied to your email - it would have taken 2 minutes. Puts you off playing on the course! Probably will not visit it because of his intervention. Great shame.
His reason for not getting back to you was the exact reason he should have got back to you. Just cross that course off the play list. Watching the video, you've played plenty better courses.
As usual a very enjoyable video James...well up to the point you were so rudely interrupted.Not very good form on Holywells behalf...but itll reflect badly on them as a club,not you James.You were very calm and measured when challenged.All courses need maintenance but why should that affect your course vlog.In fact you made the club look well in this video.James you do a great job highlighting in parrticular courses in Wales that mightnt get too much exposure and whoever runs golf in Wales...golf Wales or whatever should be thanking you for your service to golf in Wales .and they should be encouraging you to keep it up!Well done as usual..Holywells loss Id say!
Since most clubs have internet access it's normal to post when course maintenance will be in operation to inform both members and visitors of any restrictions on the course,in any event it's pure ignorance and bad manners on his part not replying to your email. Never mind James,there's one in every club!
Geez, woulda been nicer for them to respond to your email as opposed to coming out on the course and being a jerk. Besides, a 444 yards par 4 where you can't use a driver??! Ridiculous.
0:19 some substantial thoracic mobility limitations in that rotation James, I can highly recommend seeing a chiropractor to aid mobility. Completely changed my enjoyment of the game mate.
Best chip shop ever in Holywell, my dad used to take my sister and i there every Thursday after swimming, i remember it for the belly pork , right on a corner street if I remember correctly, it was back in the 70s
Never seen your channel before. Enjoyed the vlog. Just dropped a google review on the course for good measure. Everything was wrong with how that berk approached you!!
@sarahwilkinson7802 as a direct response to what I saw on here. Behaviour like that needs outing imo. Totally unnecessary approach. In terms of entitled - how about the prissy pompous attitude of the golf club in question! Did you watch this video? In my review I did not review the course, just the behaviours displayed!!!!
@@timackland5411 I’m sure your review would be a good read. I’ve watched this and most of James’s videos. I suppose if you think this managers attitude so offensive I shouldn’t be surprised you’ve left a review without ever visiting. If I found a golfer filming at my course, before the club is open, I would ask if he had permission and probably let him keep filming. He’s got his green fees covered, so everyone’s happy
You ok Hun? What an absolute snowflake of a human you are. Reviewing a course from a TH-cam video. The secretary asked him not to film and he continued to. James said he won't film and won't post online yet he did. James never paid therefore trespassing. He emailed on a Friday and probably wasn't seen if the secretary was off?? Funny how people have an 15 handicapper as an idol. Get back in your bedroom and play with your trains
Totally understand your view here James. Some course committee members are quite arrogant and guard their course like it’s their own hallowed ground. It’s stuffy attitudes like that taint the game of golf. I definitely do not want any hassle either! Apart from that , Great video! 😅⛳️🏌🏼♂️
Looks like a nice little track. The secretary could have handled it much better - I'll probably give it a swerve. As other comments mention - the course looked fine, don't know why he was such a knob about it.
I've played Holywell a few times. It's a pretty average course to put it mildly. Not exactly Turnberry, that's for sure. They should be grateful anybody plays there! You're well out of it.
I don't think the manager was particularly rude but agree that, if he was that concerned about the course being filmed during maintenance, he should have replied to the email. Missed opportunity for some positive exposure
James your pitch shots are fabulous. I’m sure it’s natural talent and not the result of having to pitch often during the round! Cheers. Thanks for the content; it’s rather enjoyable.
Well, he's lost his club a bit of custom ............... thing is, the course condition looks fine! What a jobsworth. And to simply not reply to the email! What has happened is that I've found your channel. And followed.
Nice quality video…and you just missed couple of putts. Great price for a full round, and having sheep on the course certainly unique, I would have expected the greens to be torn up, but they weren’t. I must be missing something here…the manager who came over for a quick word….I don’t know, he seemed polite from what I saw? Reading through the comments though I learned a couple of things: The Mold seems to be a nice place to play, and….pillock. Pillock, lol I’ve never heard that word before but it doesn’t appear to be a compliment. At any rate , cheers to all in UK, it’s -10 and no golf till next April where I am. 🇨🇦
What a way to ruin a rd. The guy should have spoken to you in the club house and not interrupted you. Its a hard enough game trying to concentrate and focus, this would have ruined my day too and I would not have been happy. Not good publicity for this course. Won't ever be playing there when I make a trip to GB to play golf, which will be next June after I retire. Good to see ya again James.
@@cscoetzeeit can put you off your game. It was unnecessary. He could have waited till he finished and then had a word with him. Pretty unprofessional when the customer already paid.
I have to say that your no nonsense style is very refreshing James. You obviously know you're unlikely to get a million subscribers or callaway banging on your door but you're doing something you obviously love, filming to a quite remarkable standard and bringing a great deal of enjoyment to us viewers
Also see above comment...promoting lesser known Welsh courses to a much wider audience...me included!!😊
Well said - couldn't agree more.
@@cliffmanley9153 let's get him to 1 million!
Nice to see a manager, who just cant be bothered responding to an email or a request, come out and not even introduce himself. only played their once myself and it was a horrid place, and horrid people in the club house. Carry on pal, keep smiling, keep cheerful and keep positive
Yeah "we didn't want you filming during this week, so thats why I didn't reply to you!" Oh yeah so thats a reasonable response! How are you supposed to know if he doesn't reply!? What a pillock
@@TheOldGrumpyGamerYes, because of course not replying means you haven’t got permission and they don’t want you filming!!!?? …….and after that says just carry on anyway. I agree. Total pillock!
@@robsengahay5614wasn’t given permission.
Because you were never told , "yes". How would it ever be a yes if they never said yes? You fuckin derp morons
@@sarahwilkinson7802 Wasn't told no either.
How is he meant to know if the club have even seen his email if they don't reply?
Good for you James, the most important quality in a golf course is not the state of the grounds, it’s the attitude.
stick the attitude, give me a well prepared course, as any real golfer would want. 'have a nice day you'll, apologies but it is winter greens, sorry it's a bit muddy luv, we have trouble with the drainage' ATTITUDE?
I don’t think the managers mood will be lightened when sees this video with the thumbnail……haha.
It just says it all doesn't it - 'That's why I didn't reply to your email'. If you are so concerned about the courses image then reply to the email. Only takes a minute.
In an age where it is so quick and easy to communicate, 30 seconds of the secretary's time was all that was needed here.
Some golf people are just weird, I know because I worked in the golf industry for a number of years !. Just carry on and enjoy your game, you have a great channel 👍
I don't have an issue with them not wanting filming (although that seems a bit over the top). However, this guy taking the position that you should know what he meant because he didn't respond to your email is truly mind blowing. I should try that with my boss sometime. I'm sure that will go over well.
Yes but that's because he's your boss. If you email someone asking for something and they don't get back to you, then email or call again to make sure they saw your request. If they don't get back to you, assume it's a no. That being said, the manager could have been a bit more polite.
@@rolirolster Why should I assume no? Not at all what I'd do.
This pretty much sums up people who work in golf clubs in the UK. Only care about external perceptions rather than just making it an enjoyable experience. No wonder there are so many British golf clubs in financial trouble
I doubt i'd play there either. I work at a golf course, and we all make every effort to be pleasant when interacting with customers.
Enjoyed your video. I’m 18 handicap, so really like watching realistic average golfers
A reply to your e mail should have been made. How many of you have paid a full green fee and then found the course and especially the greens barely playable due to maintenance, with nothing mentioned beforehand by the club? Things like this would put me off revisiting 😮
One less course to book when I plan my Welsh golf vacation.
I’d rather have bad greens than impolite people. To say that he didn’t email you back so you should have known he didn’t give permission is silly.
Will you marry me? .....silence....
"I take your silence as a yes then".
So far 29k people have seen the manager make a really sad impression of that club. Well done him.
I agree with the comments left regarding the secretary. Just carry on enjoying your golf and sharing it with your subscribers.
Poor Secretary at this club. Rather walk half way across the course than return an email - everyone take note, book somewhere else
You’re obviously not a business owner. Returning an email from someone who is already paying isn’t top priority. Would it be nice if they did? Yes. Businesses just don’t have the people power to answer every email However, it’s not unreasonable to ask him to not show the course in a bad light.
@@chrispajak540 I don't know where to start with your comment. Best leave it as it is and have faith that the majority can see its huge shortcomings
@@chrispajak540 As a business owner myself, returning emails is top priority. It's not hard these days when we can walk around with our email account(s) in our pockets. 😉
He made a comment along the lines of “we didn’t want you filming during greens week, that’s why I didn’t get back to you”
How to master the art of communication, not.
Guess what most golfers 100% understand about the Need for greens maintenance week and accept it is what it is.
Secretary Manager (who is probably a nice bloke just having a bad day) doesn’t mean he owns the course champ. A good “businessman” would welcome our old mate here with open arms and make 72,000 friends rather than enemies.
Don’t know what business school you went to, but when is driving away customers and knocking back free publicity a winning strategy?
Just say the greens have just been cored, not as smooth as usual, have an enjoyable round……and I’ll buy you a pint at the 19th! Easy, “happy days” .
Simple to fix too, just invite the nicest TH-cam golfer back for a free round when the greens are good and apologise for the misunderstanding.
Sooo… the website says “Our Mission: To provide members and visitors with a unique, enjoyable and competitively priced golfing experience in a friendly environment.”……. failed then. Great vlog
That's largely why mission statements are usually pretty stupid.
To be fair it was a unique experience...
I wonder if they have lost any sheep to golf balls hitting them on the head?
Mission statements are always trite nonsense.
"WE didnt want anyone recording because of maintenance week, thats why I didnt get back to you" . Communication is key Mr Manager :D .
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Love the sangfroid… a triple is met with a calm “oh dear” 😂 👏👏
Man, I'm glad I watched your video! I'm new to golf and was going to start vlogging my struggles and thoughts while I was on course. I had no clue that some golf courses may be protective of their greens and whatnot. Thank you for putting this out there. And you gained a subscriber! Thank you.
That’s why I didn’t get back to you, yeah right, nice work
Agree with the comments here and, having watched the video, people will steer clear of this club , not because of the course but the attitude and that’s what counts in life, how you treat and respect others and the tone of the club manager when speaking to you spoke volumes
In my experience, it’s better to force people to respond to your emails by loading the question, e.g. “If I receive no response from you, I will assume that you have no problems with me doing this.” Never ask an open question. That said, his manner was awful. He never introduced himself properly. If you met the grounds man on the round, surely he should have also spoken to you. I guess some golf courses aren’t in the business of being welcoming. It’s their loss!
Plus, the guy said he didn’t reply to the email because they were doing maintenance. Then he’s surprised the guy is there at filming?!
Sorry to see this happen to you James. Him not responded explains all you need to know about the character of that man. I'm looking forward to your next upload already :)
That is the most amazing thing. So he came out and told you he didn't want you to film there and says: "that's why I didn't get back to your email". So apparently, if he doesn't want someone to come to his golf course, he doesn't actually ever tell them that. He just doesn't reply to their emails, texts, etc. That's insane
All courses should welcome the publicity
Hi James,,I and a couple of friends were intending to visit Holywell as I was born in Prestatyn and my grandparents lived in Holywell but after tht interaction with that Manager/Steward I think we,ll be giving it a miss,,take care,,love the vids,,Les
"That's why I didn't", couldn't be arsed, didn't have the courtesy to, "get back to you"!
was a member there never again most, most miserable people and I would not go back I will stick with Mold thanks, come up to Mold James I will get you in with me at member rates for a round
Sheffield lad here. Played Mold a couple of times. Everyone was exceptionally friendly. Great course. Will be back!
always welcome mate
So much craziness on the "manager's" part. If you think the course is too bad to show, then close for the period. Don't charge full price for a watered-down experience. I played a nearby muni last week and they'd knocked about 60% off the green fee because they were finishing up work on cart paths!
But really, all you need to know about this experience is that the video did not conclude with the principle enjoying a pint ...
Well done Russ, you have given James a viral video!
Every golfer expects green maintenance at this time of year, it’s not an issue, don’t know what his problem was with the filming, it’s not as tho you were giving a detailed report on the condition of the greens, the guy has found a problem were the wasn’t one !nice video anyway and you handled it well👍
Didn't watch the video ran it till he came out to av a word , don't blame you for not going back , keep up the good work I enjoy ur course blogs 👍
Golf clubs are funny places and many have petty officials living out their school prefect dreams …
Clearly the right approach should have been:
1. To respond to your email
2. Explain it was a busy course maintenance week and ask that you explain that in your video
3. Perhaps offer you a discounted green fee in view of the course condition concerns
Any exposure is good exposure (even despite the official the course looked good and the skies were amazing) so better that you visit than defer and perhaps never come.
V best
Agreed about course officials. My theory is that most of these elderly men are hen pecked at home and this is their only chance to exert some power in their lives
Loved the video. Well that club is certainly off my list. What a knob that guy was. Thanks though love the content.
Absolutely refreshing videos James, As other comments great to see you bigging up N.Wales courses, As for the course manager he needs to realise private courses need non members green fees to survive. I'd say in my experience 99% of courses are very welcoming. I had one really terrible experience at a course near St.Helens more famous for it's racecourse.I was playing with 2 friends and was fortunate enough to get a hole in one on the short 4th. When we got back to the 19th hole my friend asked the barman if there was any special glass they use for hole in ones The misery replied with take your hat off in the clubhouse.We immediately left. TOSSER!!!
Won't ever be playing that course. Great channel James.
The course looked fine. "Come back next week when it looks like Augusta please" 😂
Didnt respond to an email is just rude - does he presume you have Jedi powers and should have known there was green maintenance and not allowed to film.😂
You handled the situation very well 👍
Keep doing what you do best, it's refreshing.
Well done James , handled like a gentleman , that manager is clearly an idiot and i hope the club see this and reprimand him with a training course on customer service , better off away from there .
The video and comments say it all. Holywell only have themselves to blame.
Another great and enjoyable video James, thanks and keep them coming...
For anyone saying the dude was polite, he wasn’t. It’s called, passive aggressive. Maybe y’all should look it up.
“We really don’t like you non-members out here. Yes, we advertise that the public can play, but we really don’t like it. But now that you’re here, carry on and enjoy your round. Don’t let me disturb you. Carry on….but we really don’t want our greens displayed on TH-cam, understand? Cheers!”
Frick that dude.
Absolutely rignt. His tone to the greeting when he came across made it clear what he was all about.
That guy's intervention has done his club more harm than good. You did nothing wrong James. Keep up the good work mate 👍🙂
You get these types at golf courses. I wouldnt go back either
If matey had come over and asked politely for you to include in your video that it was Maintance week so the viewer understood the situation (just as you did) then no problem - but they haven’t done themselves any favours there. I bet no one else if going to give them any exposure and it’s such a quirky course with sheep on the greens, that does it really matter - all a bit unnecessary !!
Bet they didn't tell you the greens were under maintenance when you booked and paid! If the greens aren't good enough to be filmed then they shouldn't take money off you - the customer! I won't be going there mate! Enjoyed your laid back video style! Nice!
This exact scenario happened with me and my father. £50 each and the greens were unplayable due to maintenance. This was at a local course which we had played and enjoyed many times before.
When we mentioned afterwards that they should have told us about the condition of the greens - we had phoned prior to book - we were told that if we went to the up the road to another course, we'd pay even more!
What a bizarre response.
Never been back.
Great video. I don't know about course management, this course needs management management 😂
This is just poor from them. Ive also had issue when ive booked paid and nobody told me its temp greens and even 2 less holes! Why not be upfront. Glad you posted this cause they will hopefully change thier approach when someone emails and asks a fair question.
If the secretary could'nt get back to you it would have been quite simple to put a notice on the first tee to say the course was closed but why were other people on the course ?? , if they can' tbe arsed making the effort to inform people about these things what do they expect you to do , they must think we're all mind readers , and as for the members replys it would seem to me they just want to side with there own club regardless of what occured , i know quite a few people who have given bad reports about Hollywell's members , keep up the good work James .
I must say I'm quiet, forgiving, but this kind of busy body does my head in .
Really enjoy watching your videos mate Keep them coming. What a shame that the silly little man felt the need to do that. I for won’t be playing there.
and this channel is great for the average golfer .
your out doing it and I love it . subbed mate❤
Well a course we will not be playing either ... just sad it wrecked your day James
Saffron Walden GC just the same forget you are the customer. thx 4 the vid
If the course maintenance hadn't been mentioned I wouldn't have really known! The course actually looks quite nice. Hopefully that's the last time he intentionally ignores an email though.
The manager/secretary did more damage to his course than your video ever would have...
People take note....Don't bother with Holywell. I hate these sorts of people and golf is full of them. Steer clear....
I would suggest closing the course during the maintenance week would be the best idea.
A polite reply informing James of the situation would have avoided this debacle...
Unfortunately, this has now brought bad publicity to Holywell.
Very enjoyable round, to a certain point. Nothing like approaching you mid round to tell not to do what you’ve been doing for a while. They are worried about course maintenance videos while they have farm animals and craters in the fairway. I say dust the sand from your sandals and don’t go back. It’s not like they are on the Open Rota anyway.
Have played it a few times and the members are quite a unique mix of being both pompous and weird. The mananger's demeanour is suitably befitting.
I’ve had a few experiences at golf courses like you had at this one. There is a right and a wrong way to approach people.
Nice round. You handled it very well
What a plonker. No wonder he’s the manager of a second rate golf course at his peak of career. You are a rising star and we always love to see the courses you play and which courses we will avoid.
Keep up the good work James and ignore the jobs worths. If he was that bothered about how the club looked, he should have responded to the email. The course looked in fine condition and wouldn't have put me off going. The secretary would though. Don't know what it is about some golf courses, they jus think they don't need to respond to emails - get with the times!
great video. they should have been happy to have there course showcased.
My game would have went to shit also. Good on you. For posting .
Golf today... returning to it's we're better than you ways.. I've given up again due to the type of snooty people who seemed to return to UK golf during COVID...
Enjoyable video. The course looks good and very scenic. You were not swinging as well as you normally do but the intervention from the manager just finished you off! My view is that he could have replied to your email - it would have taken 2 minutes. Puts you off playing on the course! Probably will not visit it because of his intervention. Great shame.
His reason for not getting back to you was the exact reason he should have got back to you. Just cross that course off the play list. Watching the video, you've played plenty better courses.
As usual a very enjoyable video James...well up to the point you were so rudely interrupted.Not very good form on Holywells behalf...but itll reflect badly on them as a club,not you James.You were very calm and measured when challenged.All courses need maintenance but why should that affect your course vlog.In fact you made the club look well in this video.James you do a great job highlighting in parrticular courses in Wales that mightnt get too much exposure and whoever runs golf in Wales...golf Wales or whatever should be thanking you for your service to golf in Wales .and they should be encouraging you to keep it up!Well done as usual..Holywells loss Id say!
Calm and measured... then slag the club off on TH-cam. “Just a misunderstanding “ yet everyone’s throwing a wobbler. Strange.
Since most clubs have internet access it's normal to post when course maintenance will be in operation to inform both members and visitors of any restrictions on the course,in any event it's pure ignorance and bad manners on his part not replying to your email.
Never mind James,there's one in every club!
Geez, woulda been nicer for them to respond to your email as opposed to coming out on the course and being a jerk. Besides, a 444 yards par 4 where you can't use a driver??! Ridiculous.
The irony for me is that I thought the course came across quite well in the video. The management not so much.
I don’t blame you I wouldn’t go back and give them your money
0:19 some substantial thoracic mobility limitations in that rotation James, I can highly recommend seeing a chiropractor to aid mobility. Completely changed my enjoyment of the game mate.
The Manager didn’t have the decency to reply to your e-mail !
Best chip shop ever in Holywell, my dad used to take my sister and i there every Thursday after swimming, i remember it for the belly pork , right on a corner street if I remember correctly, it was back in the 70s
Still there
Recommend shops to answer emails or get over it. Great video!
I would have thought that showing your staff working on the course was a good advert for your club!
Never seen your channel before. Enjoyed the vlog. Just dropped a google review on the course for good measure. Everything was wrong with how that berk approached you!!
Review without playing it? Ridiculous entitlement syndrome going on.
@sarahwilkinson7802 as a direct response to what I saw on here. Behaviour like that needs outing imo. Totally unnecessary approach. In terms of entitled - how about the prissy pompous attitude of the golf club in question! Did you watch this video? In my review I did not review the course, just the behaviours displayed!!!!
@@timackland5411 I’m sure your review would be a good read. I’ve watched this and most of James’s videos. I suppose if you think this managers attitude so offensive I shouldn’t be surprised you’ve left a review without ever visiting. If I found a golfer filming at my course, before the club is open, I would ask if he had permission and probably let him keep filming. He’s got his green fees covered, so everyone’s happy
You ok Hun? What an absolute snowflake of a human you are. Reviewing a course from a TH-cam video. The secretary asked him not to film and he continued to. James said he won't film and won't post online yet he did. James never paid therefore trespassing. He emailed on a Friday and probably wasn't seen if the secretary was off?? Funny how people have an 15 handicapper as an idol. Get back in your bedroom and play with your trains
Totally understand your view here James. Some course committee members are quite arrogant and guard their course like it’s their own hallowed ground. It’s stuffy attitudes like that taint the game of golf. I definitely do not want any hassle either! Apart from that , Great video! 😅⛳️🏌🏼♂️
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Looks like a nice little track. The secretary could have handled it much better - I'll probably give it a swerve. As other comments mention - the course looked fine, don't know why he was such a knob about it.
I've played Holywell a few times. It's a pretty average course to put it mildly. Not exactly Turnberry, that's for sure. They should be grateful anybody plays there! You're well out of it.
It doesn't pretend to be Turnberry! What an irrelevant comment
@ Relevant enough for you to respond.
Great channel, love the format.
Was considering playing here next year..no chance now.
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He walked out there carrying all that weight. thats why he was pissed. Keep it up, I really enjoy your videos
I don't think the manager was particularly rude but agree that, if he was that concerned about the course being filmed during maintenance, he should have replied to the email. Missed opportunity for some positive exposure
He was clearly a berk from the initial style of his "I'm ok" it was obvious.
James your pitch shots are fabulous. I’m sure it’s natural talent and not the result of having to pitch often during the round!
Cheers. Thanks for the content; it’s rather enjoyable.
Sorry you had to deal with this during your round James. You handled it well though.
I'm not sure what he was worried about. The course looks fine.
The yardage count on shots is great!
Well, he's lost his club a bit of custom ............... thing is, the course condition looks fine! What a jobsworth. And to simply not reply to the email!
What has happened is that I've found your channel. And followed.
Exactly, the course looked fine 😂
Nice quality video…and you just missed couple of putts. Great price for a full round, and having sheep on the course certainly unique, I would have expected the greens to be torn up, but they weren’t. I must be missing something here…the manager who came over for a quick word….I don’t know, he seemed polite from what I saw? Reading through the comments though I learned a couple of things: The Mold seems to be a nice place to play, and….pillock. Pillock, lol I’ve never heard that word before but it doesn’t appear to be a compliment. At any rate , cheers to all in UK, it’s -10 and no golf till next April where I am. 🇨🇦
What a way to ruin a rd. The guy should have spoken to you in the club house and not interrupted you. Its a hard enough game trying to concentrate and focus, this would have ruined my day too and I would not have been happy. Not good publicity for this course. Won't ever be playing there when I make a trip to GB to play golf, which will be next June after I retire. Good to see ya again James.
I don’t think I’ll ever be making a golf vacation to the UK…..
But if I do I’ll not be going to Holywell!!!!!!
He seemed quite polite to me just didn't want course filmed while matainance was being done nothing wrong with that.
I agree with you. Why all the drama? Guy seemed perfectly reasonable and polite to me.
@@cscoetzeeit can put you off your game. It was unnecessary. He could have waited till he finished and then had a word with him. Pretty unprofessional when the customer already paid.
@@philt6440 Oh my word. Maybe he shouldn't breathe so loud too.
@@cscoetzee or just not respond to golfers on the golf course if already not bothered to respond to an email he admitted to picking up and reading
@@philt6440 if someone politely talking to you puts you off your game so much, maybe you should just quit
Looks like a very nice course.
Shame this happened to you James! Love the attitude and the videos, keep it up
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