The $13,000 Leica 90mm Summilux-M real-life review by Thorsten von Overgaard

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  • @garydmorris
    @garydmorris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    2014 I tripped and fell down a volcano. Not as dramatic as it sounds (just bruises and scrapes). I landed on my M9 and Noctilux .95. The M9 was fine. The Noctilux shade and barrel were dented (the lens filter was broken… always wear a filter). I sent the Noctilux to Leica for repair. The repair was done at no charge. It was noted that this was the first repair sent in resulting from falling down a volcano.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Best story ever. No wonder they repaired it for free :-)

    • @Fluterra
      @Fluterra ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In 2014 I dropped my then new D800 and Nikon lens from a height of about 1m onto the sidewalk in Tokyo. Both were damaged. Not impressed. Went back to Leica and never looked back.

  • @takuan650
    @takuan650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    What a bargain! My butler is already on his way to get a couple of them.

  • @andriykovach2736
    @andriykovach2736 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In the meantime Dune and Batman movies are shot on soviet era Helios lens...haha

  • @dakotaxu4792
    @dakotaxu4792 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the 50mm 0.95 silver Noctilux which I bought for my Nikon Z9 last week. But I can’t decide between the 75mm Noctilux 1.25 and the Summilux 90mm f1.5. My question is which one has better background blur?😊

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The 90/1.5 is a very special lens, as I think I mention somewhere in the article about it. It has a special look, but also very perfect look compared to the 0.95.
      In the end I found the 75 and 90 too heavy for my M cameras. But I would love to make the 90mm "my lens" by using it a lot. But then it would have to be on a Leica SL3 or something, or just for studio and specific portraits.

    • @johnkasianowicz6536
      @johnkasianowicz6536 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The degree of blur will depend on how close you are to the subject and how far elements are in the foreground and background.
      The 75 will seem easier to handle, because any camera shake is less obvious at 75 mm than 90 mm. The IBIS in the Nikon Z9 will be helpful in this regard.
      I have all the Leica Noctilux lenses (actually, my silver 50 mm f/0.95 is on the way) and they’ll all be keepers.

    • @dlmp70
      @dlmp70 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard is the 90/1.5 a lot heavier than the 50/0.95?

  • @velovot99
    @velovot99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These are, undeniably, beautiful machines.

  • @klestor
    @klestor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see your review of the Thambar lens

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did some on the 90mm page www.overgaard.dk/leica-90mm-Summarit-M-f-25.html and also this one I had Milan Swolf do: overgaard.dk/the-story-behind-that-picture-0187_gb.html . Not a favorite lens. It was great for film, for digital I miss the point of it.

  • @kevin-parratt-artist
    @kevin-parratt-artist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is indeed a superb lens. .. which comes to life in the hands of an artist. 👌
    Thank you again for sharing this Thorsten. I return to a number of your videos, from time to time. This one being a favourite. 💫

  • @Raychristofer
    @Raychristofer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's up Thorsten? I have to say I notice and appreciate the diversity of models you use , too many photographers all choose the same type over and over. By the way I've been shooting Barnack leicas for a year now with a summitar. I appreciate the magnified extra window for focusing, I think more cameras could benefit from that.

    • @j.k5654
      @j.k5654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another person who loves the Barnack Leica magnified extra window. Believe me or not, i sold my M3 to get the IIIf after using it lol. I love that camera.

  • @BPLeroyLotusEvora
    @BPLeroyLotusEvora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Thorsten for being straightforward and honest as always!

  • @smartdoctorphysicist3095
    @smartdoctorphysicist3095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi I believe you can do the same look with either 90mm Summcrom or with 90mm Summcrom apo, and get good shot with it as will. I do not know if you will see a big different between the older 90mm to the apo 90mm if you do know please let me know.

  • @stevenonyoutube
    @stevenonyoutube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Misread the title and thought there is a $1300 summilux lol

  • @raymondtay5512
    @raymondtay5512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Apart from the cost, the size of these lens are too big & heavy compared to the size of Leica CAM. I even find my 50mm Silver Chrome Summilux too heavy for my M9M. I chose the Summilux over the 50mm Noctilux is because of the size and weight.

    • @johnkasianowicz6536
      @johnkasianowicz6536 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The new Summilux-M 50 mm lens is superb.
      I agree that all the modern Noctilux lenses are a bit heavy for use all day long. That said, they are pretty special.

  • @parratt-world
    @parratt-world 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Physically, the size and weight are fine for me. I am accustomed to the early 9cm Summicron (made in Canada with detachable head for Visoflex) which is I guess about the same. Were I to sell an extra painting or two, I would gladly hand over the money. Thank you for this Thorsten.

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    dropped it not once, not twice! but three times! I'd have a coronary if I dropped my M50 Noctilux just once! BTW, Thorsten... do they make a leather strap like the one you have with a quick disconnect? or are they all using those rings that mess up your fingernails?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same rings, meant to stay on the camera. We are working on new rings that are easy to release while they can't fall off.

    • @Sams911
      @Sams911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard make a nice one, and I'll be in line to get it

  • @michaelfedorsha8147
    @michaelfedorsha8147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just recently came across you and your channel. You have a ton of great articles and videos and some beautifully impressive photographic art. Thanks for sharing with us!!🙏

  • @TheVFXbyArt
    @TheVFXbyArt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thorsten, what’s the rings you used on your safari to not have the camera fall from the strap? Thx

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Experimenting with different ones, this one is from a keyring. But looking or some that can't fall off, for my own designed straps. No there yet.

  • @Richardsumilang
    @Richardsumilang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would be nice if they paired it with a better visoflex. Until then I'll stick to my 90 2.8 which is a fraction of the price and portable :)

    • @tamilhoward9708
      @tamilhoward9708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 90mm f2.8 Elmarit-M and it suits me just fine! Not much bigger than my 50 Lux

  • @Pedro-ng7hh
    @Pedro-ng7hh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you.👍

  • @ablueslenz
    @ablueslenz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This question has nothing to do with the 90mm lens you just discussed. But can you recommend a Leica camera with an interchangeable lens that is similar the Leica Q2? I want a full-frame sensor and interchangeable lens, but I want it rather “compact.” I’m considering the Q2, but I don’t know if I can handle a fixed lens. I want a solid travel/walk around camera. I currently shoot the Nikon D850 for projects, but for travel, I want something light.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Q2 has the possibility to crop, and then the smallest 75mm frame is 8MP which is enough for most things, but people seem to want all 50MP. The Leica CL is cute, sells for only 1600 with a lens now, but is not full-frame. That is about it, else look at Leica M9 with a lens secondhand, that kit could be 3500-4500 in total...

    • @ablueslenz
      @ablueslenz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard Thanks so much for this quick and insightful reply! I appreciate it greatly. I will do as you recommend and see what I come up with. 💚

  • @adventureStaley
    @adventureStaley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the lens I want the most. But I'm a portrait guy....

  • @Gravitys-NOT-a-force
    @Gravitys-NOT-a-force 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you're in a crowded place, e.g. a zoo, and people - and kids - are passing you in all directions, you'll tend to guide that lens with your left hand to avoid collisions. After a few months your left hand will start to ache.

  • @Gravitys-NOT-a-force
    @Gravitys-NOT-a-force 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In your video you have quite a few photos that appear to have been taken with the 90mm lens 'wide open.' Were any of those photos 'candid' photos, photos taken 'hand-held' and without the help of Leica's Visoflex accessory? Also, what are the odds of your buying a new M10-R in which the built-in mechanical rangefinder is perfectly calibrated, i.e. capable of focusing the 90mm at f1.5. I'll admit those are all 'gotcha' questions.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I shoot 99% wide open yes, and contrary to 'logic' the 90mm is actually easier to focus with the RF than the EVF. It is also more intuitive. When getting a new camera, the RF can be off, or it can be very precise. It's just part of the mechanical construction that it can go out, and if it does, the EVF is the lifesaver till one can get the camera re-calibrated.

    • @Gravitys-NOT-a-force
      @Gravitys-NOT-a-force 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard , if I had just handed a storekeeper $8300 for a new, in-the-box M10-R (body), that would be the big question on my mind as I walked out of the store, "Is the built-in rangefinder accurate?" How would I know?

  • @peetje28021970
    @peetje28021970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    13.000 dollar is the exact same amount I spent last Friday on a new motorcycle, I'm sure it's better spend on that lol.

    • @cubeedoo
      @cubeedoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If one has to decide whether to spend it for the lense or the bike or as long as one does not earn money with it, this reflects my thoughts. 😄 Beautiful, but it's worth more than my old car.

    • @filibertkraxner305
      @filibertkraxner305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not fair: motorcycles are a primary necessity ;-). So you made the right decision.

    • @Gravitys-NOT-a-force
      @Gravitys-NOT-a-force 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Walking around with a Leica shooting 'street' photographs will help you keep your weight down. No way will your new motorcycle help you keep your weight down.

    • @peetje28021970
      @peetje28021970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      waytoosquirrelly with a summicron yes lol

    • @Gravitys-NOT-a-force
      @Gravitys-NOT-a-force 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually have the 50mm Noctilux, the 75mm Noctilux, and two (2) motorcycles. You make an interesting and good point. I can't argue with you about a motorcycle being the better choice. It's close.

  • @mylogify
    @mylogify ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does this cost 13.000 Euro and Sigma 56mm costs only 400-450 Euro and still great lens? Nice dreamy shots btw! They don't look like the other full-frame, and APSC cameras like Sony, Canon etc... For some reason...

  • @Gravitys-NOT-a-force
    @Gravitys-NOT-a-force 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason for "your" dropping the 90mm lens THREE (3) times is muddled/unclear in your video. Did one of the two strap lugs somehow unscrew out of the camera body? I have the 75mm Noctilux which is also quite heavy. I can't afford to drop my lens even once.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, the rings on the left side tend to open up due to the angle the camera hangs with. Sometime the right side also, but mainly the left. Smaller rings are more safe, and having leather between the ring the camera also seem to hold it together. Og get one of the classic nylon Leica straps from around year 2000 that locks. Once you mount that, it stays there.

    • @Gravitys-NOT-a-force
      @Gravitys-NOT-a-force 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard , thank you for your response. Have you heard of other people having the same problem, a strap lug failure? I know Leica recommends that you carry the 75mm Noctilux by the barrel of the lens, but they don't say why. If their Noctilux lenses are simply too heavy for the structure of their M-bodies to handle, Leica should say so! You, obviously, have a strong heart. I don't.

  • @brianmccutcheon3205
    @brianmccutcheon3205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There’s 13,000 reasons why I won’t be buying one, sadly: I have a M3 and love it: But can’t see how they justify the prices ?

    • @brianmccutcheon3205
      @brianmccutcheon3205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Paul Lanigan hey, I’m expressing my opinion: last I saw wasn’t illegal: I love Leica gear but just can’t afford it: That lens costs more than what it cost to build my shed/home:

    • @brianmccutcheon3205
      @brianmccutcheon3205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paul Lanigan I’m so sorry for jumping on you Paul like that: Please except my humble apology I was very rude:

  • @dizzybuizzy9347
    @dizzybuizzy9347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Thorsten.. The word "Absurd" comes to mind!!

  • @9Biloela99
    @9Biloela99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great review - thank you for sharing your wisdom

  • @jonlieberman997
    @jonlieberman997 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow… great review. I own the Leica M .09 Nocti 50 and thought it was a one trick pony. I will pass on getting the Nocti 90. Thanks.

  • @evelasq1
    @evelasq1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly, these lenses are too expensive for most photographers to be able to afford for their photography. I have lenses that have their own unique characteristics. I do love primes and I do like using Nikon Prime Lenses for my digital and film work. They do no cost me thousands of dollars for each prime lens. The most that I every paid is around a few hundred dollars for a prime lens and the lowest price is below $100. I do get some great results. For the price of these lenses, a person could buy a car.

    • @dizzybuizzy9347
      @dizzybuizzy9347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are not that great for Lenses! Nikkor or Voigtlander is a better choice!

  • @hackman8909
    @hackman8909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would be a good , lightweight leica 90 mm? Dof isnt the highest priority. If someone could give me a pointer two one or more good options? I do long distance hikes and therefore very weight restricted. Thanks guys!

    • @johnkasianowicz6536
      @johnkasianowicz6536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out the Leica Macro-Elmar-M 90 mm f/4. It’s tiny, collapsible, lightweight, and very sharp. They call it a Macro lens, but you need the Leica Macro Adapter-M to do that kind of work.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      90mm APO-Summicron is great(ly underrated). For even lighter the 90/2.8 Elmarit is not bad, and an older one is cheap and very light-weight. www.overgaard.dk/leica-90mm-Summarit-M-f-25.html The 90/2.4 or 90/2.5 Summarit is a in-between modern lens, more cold looking. The 90 APO really is perfect.

  • @TheGrapefruit11
    @TheGrapefruit11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    one can always hear your love for the 50 noctilux!
    interesting that the 90mm is 1.5 but I like that it's the same size as the 75. big enough!

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you look and calculate 90/1.5, 75/1.25, 50/0.95 you should be able to predict the 35mm and 28mm Noctilux :-)

  • @vicentvanmole
    @vicentvanmole 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Know my answer instantly ,the minute i know the size &cost.

  • @carrieannkouri2151
    @carrieannkouri2151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The bokeh in those images is delicious.

  • @Caracalaba
    @Caracalaba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I promise you, from the begining oglf the video I already knew if I was going to buy it :)

  • @paulsehstedt6275
    @paulsehstedt6275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Udmærket fremstilling som sædvanlig. Jeg må nok heller kigge ind på Fasanenstrasse 71 i Berlin, for at se på objektivet, for Robert (Mimosa) har det helt sikker ikke på hylden. Sammen med M10R må det være helt ude i det ekstreme!

  • @nickdigrispino2409
    @nickdigrispino2409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can’t afford a used Leica let alone a new one. I do have a Soviet copy, a FED 2.

  • @IanKnight40
    @IanKnight40 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Be very careful you don't drop the lens again!!

  • @terryallen9546
    @terryallen9546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect images.

  • @ductritran8637
    @ductritran8637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stay with my 90mm apo , buy it used for less than half of the price and it is a best 90mm period . I’m not a pro , Photograpy is a hobby , Leica is getting more expensive for normal peoples . If you can compare the 90mm apo and this noctilux would be excellent .

  • @ibrahimz
    @ibrahimz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I get second to none for my portraiture with my APO 90mm f2.0 ASPH on my M10M. Honestly, I do not see a reason to get this one.

  • @fraserhalscheid7777
    @fraserhalscheid7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Thorsten....I dropped my 75 Noct as well the same way. Can’t believe this happened to you as well. I glad u mentioned it because I thought it was very strange. Bent the frame and need to send back to Germany thx Fraser @lifethruourlenss IG
    Keep up the great work!

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's just something about how the lugs meet the strap rings when the camera is in that position. Rather simple, but disturbing. Will figure out a fix.

    • @fraserhalscheid7777
      @fraserhalscheid7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Magic Of Light Thanks Thorsten...I’m just pleased that you explained it because I though I was losing it. My 75 Nocti fell on the hard wood floors in our house and left a dent in the floor LOL. Lens is so tough though and just bent the casing a bit and no issues at all with M9P. Tough stuff

  • @prakashpatankar3805
    @prakashpatankar3805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Classic but to costly all Leica 🌹🌹🌷🇮🇳🌹🌹

  • @markorchard2272
    @markorchard2272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A Zeiss Otus 100/1.4 is better and half the price!\

    • @Narsuitus
      @Narsuitus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does Zeiss make a Leica M-mount for this lens?
      I could only find it for Nikon and Canon cameras.

    • @nelsonclub7722
      @nelsonclub7722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you say better......?

  • @ucevrim
    @ucevrim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    forget photography tell us how you made your money.

    • @nelsonclub7722
      @nelsonclub7722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pros like myself and Thorsten make money through photography it's often by immersing yourself professionally into your passion which has its own rewards beyond money though. For instance I can work when I want, I met my wife through photography - she was a model and of course our passion pays for itself - win win win. You just have to make the leap, unless of course you already earn enough money or maybe more money doing something else?

  • @eyeeyeoh
    @eyeeyeoh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Leica is not a photographer's tool. It is an item of luxury, often unuseful and unusable. Like a sportscar that you keep in your garage and only drive around town at 30 to 50 speed limit. These lenses are ridiculous, they are way too heavy, difficult to focus, they block your viewfinder and they are expensive to the point where you can buy a bunch of other cameras instead.

    • @weizenobstmusli8232
      @weizenobstmusli8232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I whould say, if you want compact but super high quality optics, Leica is the way to go. Also, if you want to use zone focusing. You say, it is not a photographers tool. Look how many successfull photographers use Leica. I admit, that it is not for every task. But everything people, reportage, personal, street, fashion, style, Leica is very usable.

    • @TheVFXbyArt
      @TheVFXbyArt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Public Administration
      I disagree, and I’m a working class joe, meaning paycheck to relative paycheck, not a typical Leica tax bracket. I was using a $300 canon nifty fifty with CA issues, then graduated to a $900 voightlander nokton f1.5 50. Better but still CA issues wider than f2.8. A buddy lent me a 30 year old 50 summilux to test out and it beat the nokton. Did research and found out the f1.4 summilux was what I was looking for: low distortion for portraits, very well controlled CA for OOC FINISHED images.
      Folks say CA can be fixed in software. I noticed that it’s laborious and causes shift in other colors. I was also interested in getting ooc results to share instantly and, paired with a fuji x-t3 body, small form factor.
      I shoot canon for studio work, but use the ‘lux/fuji x-t3 Combo for my personal work, some pro.
      The new canon glass ain’t cheap either: $2100-$3000+, depreciates faster than a BMW driven off the lot, depreciates more as the mark2, 3, 4 version comes out. They are commodities. High tech, image stabilized, silent af motors, huge, optically advanced works of modern utility to the best of that epoch until the mark 2 comes out. Amazing but as disposable as most other techs like last years iPhone.
      Is Leica a luxury brand? Of course, they had to be to survive and thrive. Their lenses can’t compete on any computerized tech, composite plastic for lightness ( in fact the heavier version are more expensive) , no image stabilize, no eye AF, no blah blah blah. But they are a precision tool. Like a manual stick car, some people like that level of handling vs an computerized manual automatic will paddle shifting. Leica leverages that near 100 year heritage and delivers, albeit at a price.
      We’re irrational chimpanzees!
      Fact, though, I know a lot of people who burnt a lot of lettuce going from canon to Sony then back to canon because of who knows what...daddy issues.. they are both very capable camera systems. I know a lot of loaded dudes that may go through Leica special editions bodies like they are newspapers, but they hold on to their glass. Why? My canon/fuji/Sony peeps are so spec driven, that a tighter eye AF, or an additional fps, or omg 8K video makes them lose their mind. With at least a Leica lens, there’s no new model in two years. You don’t get caught up in feature FOMO because there aren’t any. You just get the most optically and mechanically built lens that physics would allow at that time. Very German I might add.
      So I won’t knock anyone that says “harumph” Leica lenses are too expensive. You have the Chinese banging out quality glass for 1/20th the price. Sure they distort like fun house mirrors and CA like an acid trip wide open, but you can correct most of that in software. But to claim Leica is not a photographers tool and only a item of luxury is nuts. A luxury photographers tool? Yeah maybe, but still a precision, mechanically perfect photographer tool, one that goes up in resale value!

    • @weizenobstmusli8232
      @weizenobstmusli8232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not to forget if you want an classic lens look in your pictures without using an artfilter. Leica M sensors are layed out so that classic rangefinder lenses work best with these sensors (special microlense array). So you have a real technical advantage in using an M body on old lenses.

    • @weizenobstmusli8232
      @weizenobstmusli8232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are interested in Leica pros, look up Magnum photographers. Many of them are Leica users.

    • @filibertkraxner305
      @filibertkraxner305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not in my experience. I have taken pictures with many types of cameras, from DSLRs to a 18x24cm wooden camera from the 1930s. Still do, actually, and they all have their place. But out of all of these, I prefer my Leica M's. That has zero to do with luxury or appearance, but everything with the simplicity of using an M. But it's definitely not for everyone, nor for all purposes, and that's ok.
      I agree with you that this 90/1.5 is a bit too big for the camera. I have an old 90/2 that I love, but I prefer the balance of smaller lenses. Oh, of course I'd never pay 13K for any lens, but you can shoot Leica with much cheaper lenses and be completely happy.