Hardware Inserts - How To Setup
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The main takeaway here, is that your friends give you better gifts than mine give me. Guess I need to up my friend game.
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Come on Barry, some people have stuff to do! == 00:00 Intro | 05:55 - Setup: Nuendo/Cubase | 11:12 - Setup: Studio 1 | 15:25 - Setup: Logic | 17:24 - Setup : Protools | 19:28 - End Thoughts
It’s my channel brother, I go in depth, I can appreciate it if it’s not for some, it it is what it is though.
It is called “Studio Talk”😁
@@BarryJohns You be you Barry, these just help us comp deep links so people can find it.
And some people need to stay on TikTok with their no patience having ass. You are not in a drive thru asking for extra bbq sauce on your chicky nuggets. You are talking to an industry veteran, who took hours of his time to come up with a concept, shoot, edit and upload to TH-cam for you to come over here and ask for him to do it faster….how???? Why???? 🤦🏻♂️
@@ByTISZY What are you babbling about child? Stop picking fights on here and wasting your beta energy.
Ok Andrew. I’m not here to fight, I’m here to remind you to use your manners. Some of you need to be constantly reminded that we don’t move at your pace, we don’t need your sense of urgency and lack of focus. And as far as all of the fighting goes, I don’t do much of that anymore, I did that for 20 years in the service… get your facts straight… some people help with kindness and your time stamps don’t take away the facts that your are acting like a dick.
This tutorial feature is very essential for those needing to understand this concept to successfully accomplish 😊
Unbelievable timing, I am just about ready to pull the trigger on a Heritage Audio SUCCESSOR Stereo Bus Compressor and use Studio One with a Focusrite. Thank you so much. Joe
Have fun!
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Hey Barry, I remember watching this last year when you first release this video. At that time I though when I get my analog great in to work with Cubase I want to try this. Now a year later I re-watched the video and setup my RME UCX II to do analog inserts on in and out 5/6. I have been redoing a couple of tracks with my dbx compressor. I find that being able to reach over and adjust a knob is so much easier than tweaking one in the box. I got it right on the first try!! Thanks for the insightful and clear video for doing analog inserts with Cubase. Have a great one!!
Thank you so much!!!! I really needed those extra examples.
Oh my God, thank you sir for this video. This is so helpful. Thank you!
Excelent video Barry, Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for your videos! I always learn soooo much!
You are so welcome!
a very good video - well produced with good content
Thank you!
Thanks for still showing how to do inserts in Pro Tools since I'm still stuck using it for education/work purposes. Weaning myself off. Reaper is getting used more and more.
Such a excellent lesson on this topic Barry. I've got mine setup in Cubase pro but you talk about aspects of this that didn't know about so thanks so much for that. I've learned even more on this so really appreciate it. and you talking the time and energy to make this video so we can learn about these sort of things. Great job indeed sir . Nice one..
Barry! What an outstanding video! Thank you so much
thanks for the info reaaly helpful !!
Great to see Barry. It's quite uncanny that you seem to raise just about every topic on all your episodes, that applies to my exact current situation, almost to the day it happens! Like Getting used to Hardware inserts on the same DAW's youmentioned, mapping issues due to Cubase 12 losing settings, my RME UFX+ Totalmix battles etc. Might need to sign up and do the Patreon thing me thinks..
Thank you, that really helped !
Thanks for this simple tutorial. I always thought there was some settings to account for the round trip latency or DA/AD conversion. Very helpful.
I’m making that video this weekend.
Excellent presentation, thank you !
Glad you liked it!
@@BarryJohns 😀
This video would have saved a headache when setting up my first outboard!
Need help with my setup
Connecting multiple external midi instruments and being able to have all of them playback in sync is a major topic these days, because lot of people dont want to print audio right away and commit, but there is latency in midi which is very hard to resolve in Cubase and most DAW's, it seems to work really well in Bitwig, but it would be nice to show how to actually measure the delay on each instrument. There is no delay adjustment button in Cubase for external instruments. It would be great to see a video for this issue. Great video as always and this will help a lot of people.
Thanks for all the info Barry!
Thanks for the tutorial. It helped a lot! 😀
Glad it helped!
An excellent video, thanks. Would be great if you could include an example for Mixbus 10
Finally! Thanks Barry!
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Great Channel ! Maybe you can answer this for me . I check round trip delay with 2 recorded click tracks like many channels show . And the problem is the hardware insert comes back ahead instead of being behind. Its super weird its like 12 samples ahead of the unprocessed recorded click.
What is your buffer set to and what DAW are you using?
Pro tools and 128 buffer @@BarryJohns
This is very helpful, thank you Barry. I've been circling trying to get a setup in Reason 13. Any thoughts here?
How would you do this with Abelton Live?
Thanks for the info I am having an issue and I also use studio one and I’m trying to be able to process the audio signal once recorded I have a distressor compressor and focusrite 18i20 3rd gen I have looked at videos and you’re video was as close I’ve gotten to it I would appreciate the help
I have a problem with latency, basically half of my studio is unusable. The hardware is not only to big to use but it also changes almost every playback. So its like a cointoss sometimes it works sometimes not. Yes i´m using delay compensation and yes i tried using hw insert delay that did nothing.
Hey Barry I was looking through your playlists and I couldn’t find a playlist specifically talking to beginners? Did you ever organize these into one?
I should
Hi Barry, I have a problem. I'm using the new version of protools , Focusrite Clarett 8pre running hardware through 3,4,5,,6,7, and 8 my issue is when I insert the first hardware everything is fine, but when I insert a second one on the same track I get a weird double robotic noise. I've tried lowering buffer, delay comp, muting and unmuting Focusrite control, swapping cables you name it. All my cables is Balanced as so. If you can help me I appreciate it.
Did we get it worked out?
@@BarryJohns Yes I figured it out. I had to turn the volume down in Focusrite control instead of muting them. Usually I only use one hardware per track. Thanks for responding..
nice one barry
Thank U for your video...much appreciated 😊 I just picked up a adat xt20 type II I'm waiting on my interface and adaptors. My intentions is to be able to record from other sources besides mics etc. When my adaptors get here I will go through the laptop but is it possible to record on adat without pc .... could you Please Help... finding out that adat is a different beast but want to figure this out.... Thanks in advance, have a great weekend 😊
Dumb question ,but if you wanted to add say a compressor and an eq, would you need two inputs and outputs or can you daisy chain the two on one set of ins and out? Great video and thank you so much!
Yes you can daisy chain.
Thank you so much! I guess that would be considered building a channel strip?
Thanks for sharing👍💯
Barry Thank you. I use LOGIC PRO X but w/ UA Apollo x6 & MK2 so I’m little confused with the routing since I use UA COSOLE 2.0 Software. I’ve been doing Mixing for 12 yrs and never have got this figured out. Only thing I use as in Outboard GEAR is my Channel Strip for Rec. VOX. Also I believe we have to “PING” for the round trip?
Thank you sir
What are your thoughts on the extra stages of AD/DA conversion required for outboard analogue components?
Todays conversion is very good, so I have no issue with it.
Thank you! ✌🏽
Thank you
Thank you . Question I have a small under the stairs studio I use a Scarlett 18i20 have two monitors and a 4 channel headphone amp. When should I use TRS cables for this set up ? Thanks again
Hello berry... stupid question...im using ssl fusion as an insert in pro tools but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to kill that delay .. I tried all delay compensation methods no kuck😢... I just noticed that you change the inserts from stereo to mono do you think that would help... In my situation...
What is your buffer set to?
How do you go about setting the right levels in your routing plugin? The gear needs to operate around +4db, but the level indication on the io plugin is displayed in dbFS if I'm not mistaken. Do you go at -18dbFS on the output? Thanks.
What a great video, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us Barry. I am seriously thinking of upgrading from a focusrite saffire pro 40 to an RME Babyface pro fs. Its a jump in quality and would use the two XLR's for Kick and Snare and use the 8 pres on the Focusrite for 8 channels in adat for drums. Also thinking of running a tube preamp, albeit a cheap one by Behringer, but will try it as my first hardware piece on Kick and snare, then on my two buss. I can run the single headphone to a 4 channel monitor amp for for drums and vocals if needed. What are your thought Barry or anyone else? In this case, will the Baby be enough for this scenario? Or should I opt for the UCX11. Its $1000 more here in Canada. Thanks in advance. I just upgraded to an I7 24700 with a brand new 6 core PC with 16G of ram and USB 3.2 and windows 11. WIll be retiring by old I7 that is running my old Saffire pro through firewire on Windows 10. Saffire pro in only supported on Windows 7, but runs on 10, although super glitchy. Treated room with absorption at all reflection points, corners, walls and ceilings close to listening positions.
Do we have to adjust i/o levels in totalmix in addition to the DAW?
Thank you!!
You're welcome!
Can i connect my outboard gear to the rme ufxiii
Once you have your settings on the hardware just process it like a regular plugin are do you have to write it to the track
The reason to record it is to free the hardware up for another track.
Can you make a video showing the basic overview of these Daws? For me most daws are from the user interface are overwhelming and not so logic. So I work out of the box.
Thanks for the video... would be great if you could tie in RME TotalMix software with hardware inserts... I use Studio One and could never get my head around using Pipeline, TotalMix and hardware together. Salud!
Have you watched my previous totalmix videos? My next one that I’m doing this weekend is regarding hardware inserts and routing.
@@BarryJohns Yes I have, and they were clearer than the RME vids... looking forward to the next one...Thanks Barry!
Can i use hardware with my apollo twin x with a patchbay or should i just buy an apollo x4
thank you thank you thank you i couldn't make it work tell you explained it thank you very much barry i'm using pro tools and i couldn't make it work
Barry i have scrarlett 18 i 20. gen 3 interface can i use a out board compressor in real time in my recordings with with the scarlett or is it after i get somthing recorded. thank you
Hey Barry, thank you for sharing your experience with us in this very informative video. I have one question: I just bought the Klark Teknik EQP-KT as my first piece of analog gear and I set it up properly but somehow I cant use it on my Master track. I think the solution is, that my master is in stereo whileas the EQP is in mono but how do other people use hardware gear in their mixing process? Do I have to buy some kind of converter or so to mix my master in realtime with my EQ?
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You are correct, your master buss is stereo, so you'd need a second EQP-KT to be able to put them on your master buss. You can use your EQP on other mono tracks, just follow the instructions in the video and you'll be good to go. There is a long thread over at gear space on how to make simple mods to the EQP to get the best performance out if it, you should check that out.
Hi Barry, how can i do this on the Great River ME-1 NV??
How does automatic delay compensation work in Pro Tools nowadays, or do you still have to calculate it manually unless you use Pro Tools HD?
Hey Barry is it normal to not hear plug-in effects after hardware inserts? I can hear them before Hardware inserts, but not after.. This happens on my main vocal track, I haven’t tried on send bus or master bus.
No, you should be able to use plugins before or after with no problem.
@@BarryJohns I fix that problem and ran into another one,I’m really confused.. So, all of my hardware is being routed through a focusrite Clarett 8pre.. My issuse is when I insert hardware I would have to go to my focusrite control center and solo which ever output I’m using so It doesn’t create a feedback. Now when I use a second insert on the same vocal chain I have to solo the other output channel, and mute the last channel which is in use.. It’s becoming annoying and I know I’m doing something wrong..
I watch a lot of your studio talks and I really appreciate you sharing your experience on lots of stuffs.
This one was very informative as well.
Could I ask one question tho?
I do use Protools which only allows the input & output to be identical. How inconvenient! However, I still want to use Protools as I used it for a long time and I got used to it.
Anyway, I have two outboard converters that will be connected with different digital connection.
If I connect my outboard DA converter via MADI(Let's say output 33,34), can I still use that signal to my outboard AD converter that's been connected via SPIDF(Let's say input 10,11) if I route the signal accordingly in the RME totalmix?
My understanding was put hardware insert 10, 11 on the track in protools and have that signal received in the output 33, 34 in totalmix.
Can’t get my I/o to show up in Pro Tools! Trying to use the Warm audio bus compressor as a insert but the I/o will not show up help me out
In FL studio bro?
@Barry could you help me setup my gear?
I run Logic, Apollo X6, Avalon U5, RedDi, Neve RNDI1.
How could I contact you?
So how many physical ins and outs are required
I picked up an X6 how many simultaneous pieces of outboard could I run from the patch bay
Would it be 6 when mixing
and 5 if I am effecting 1 mic input while tracking?
Thereby printing those
5 Fx/Dynamics?
Tying to determine if I need additional physical I/O like
Audient asp880,
Thanks
1 I/O for each mono unit and 2 I/O for each Stereo unit. With 6 inputs and a pair of dedicated outputs for you monitor, you could record one track live and have 5 mono hardware inserts going at the same time.
@@BarryJohns
Perhaps a quality outboard channel strip will be the best way to reduce ins and outs while having access to the basic dynamics, any suggestions if you agree
are you supposed to do the same with the microphone preamp? I'm confused........
Hey @Barry I cannot seem to get my I/O to work on logic pro x for some reason. Maybe my connections are incorrect or something my output 1 is set to MON L. I am using an apollo Twin X and I have a HA73 EQ. I have been trying to fix this for days now with no success. :( please help
Send me an email.
@@BarryJohns okay I will do now
Do leave the preamp on line or mic?
Line in
You said that most of the time it is not necessary to adjust the send level of the hw insert in studio one. If I am only using my wa-76 as a compressor insert, then i always need to push the send level because I am afraid to push the input knob on the wa-76. I had times when I pushed the input knob up to almost max. Can I end up pushing the input of the compressor too hard?
And: Do I need to put my external preamp before going to my compressor? I tried it out and the result was okay, but i introduced extra noise (1073 style preamp) and now I am curious if it's the "right way" (i know, experimenting and listening is the right way :P )
The Input on the WA76 is not a traditional input, it’s the gain reduction that determines how much gain reduction you are doing which is displayed by the VU meter. You the make up the gain reduction by adjusting the output, which is a traditional output. The input is more of a threshold.
Ok so once the hardware insert is setup we can just record a track with the affect like a plug-in insert. But we would still have the dry unprocessed track in the DAW that we sent out to the analog unit. So we could potentially record multiple takes with that dry track to see which hardware settings works best I am thinking.? Or even swap out to a different hardware processor… ok so I see that using hardware inserts and sends will require a lot more time consuming work arounds that’s the other trade off obviously.
You will always have the dry signal until you print a stem of the track which would give you a fully processed track leaving your dry track in place you than then mute and hide in the event you needed to process it again.
Why is it when I I use a plugin after my bus comp it doesn’t affect my audio
Send me an email with more details.
@@BarryJohnswhat’s your email
In a DAW like Logic, especially if your track is already recorded and you want to send that out to a hardware piece, don't you have to account for latency or does it just work?
I would dare say that Barry will save that discussion for next episode....
Indeed
@@BarryJohns could you point to the video if you have discussed that. Using logic and trying to insert a comp on a recorded bass track and getting all kinds of weird artifacts in the sound, almost like a ring modulator. Trying different latency settings but having no luck. Using a Focusrite 18i20.
andro here from Sydney Australia, I was wondering if you might be able to help me, I have loaded a session from another user on Cubase 12 still here
And I’ve lost settings I’ve customized in my set up
One which is a big deal I use a lot of external hardware 64 in 64 out with external effects compressors, EQs etc
I lost all the connections
It’s such a pain to have to do this again simply because I am loading a project not done on my main machine
Now I’m really worried to load someone’s material in the fear of losing settings.. the worst part is you can’t save it as a preset in the connections for external effects
Is there a work around or something in the settings so that if I load something it won’t load anything but the project ?
Thanks a lot
I can, let’s setup a zoom call. Look in the description for my email.
@@BarryJohns thanks Barry sounds great, if we can do it in a couple of weeks, just having some back pain issues at the moment, but hopefully in a couple of weeks I’m more functional
No PT ?
wont work for me.. Wtf am i doing wrong.
I got the heritage audio ost-6 2.0 and i bought the ssl 500 series compressor.. Plugged in and into my ucx II and done exactly like you did in the video but it just dont wanna work
Email me and I will help you.
why don't you use pro tools anymore?
I know why I stopped. Hated subscription model, constant upgrades, walled garden vibe and occasionally hostile customer support from Avid. Not sure about Barry though.
Hey buddy
Oh but what about the latency….?
Manufactures affect that. I have zero issues with latency deep into a mix. A combination of the interface, the interface driver, as well as computer speed.
Is there some sort of patch bay with BOTH at once, mice/line imput in a way that connecting one would disconect the other so that when things are inside a rack we could manage EVERYTHING without having to disconnect anything at all from the back?
Yes, search my channel on patchbay s.
Thanks!
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