this part where the song drops and they play that riff while matts like "HE WHO SPAWNED THE FURIES SEVERED THE GENITALS OF HIS FATHER CREATING SUCH BEAUTY THE GODESS OF LOVE BUT THE BLOOD THAT FELL TO THE GROUND MADE THE ERINYES" literally makes me shit my pants every time
when i first listened to the song i was like, its good but nothing great, until they played that bridge riff and i was like OH MY GOD THIS IS AWESOME!!
I think when they come out with Shogun they really found their their own identities musically and left Metallica and all that behind. Because all these songs are really unique sounding I think and I also think they set the bar pretty high when this record come out.
Then you need to learn to count. Thomas Haake's 'count' aka his cymbals, be it hi hat or china or whatever is usually in 4/4, but the music of Meshuggah is based on Polyrhythms meaning more than one. Meshuggah is essentially a complex time figure over a basic 4/4 beat.
most bands start to get old after three or four albums but i cant fuckin wait for trivium's new one cuz they seem to get better and better best song in the world is definitley a tie between all of the ones on shogun
its some kind of harmonic, and they harmonize different harmonics i think, i haven't given it much listening and transcribing yet. ill give it a try. just try some really high pitched out of tune harmonics and u should get the gist of it.
Go back to hardcore dancing and throwing temper tantrums while your favorite band plays a generic open D, pig squealing breakdown. Looking like an uncoordinated Mr. Miyagi is pretty scene, I'm sure. BREE BREE
what about classical music (not the era, just traditional music in general), where everything musical wise was created, including time signiatures, there was no drum kits, time signatures are plaed on any instrument and ever heard of a band called dream theater, on their newest dvd, theyre quite clearly playing huge arenas in america - that requires a lot of people to like them, thus not underground and if you dont know much about prog, why argue about it...
some of these riffs sound like crap when i first hear them, but then i hear the song, with the vocals and drums and it sounds amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't realize The Clash was being thrown into the mix here with Rock the Casbah. Regardless, Black Dahlia is average at best. I wasn't aware they stopped riffing long enough to play a breakdown, and Necrophagist has very few themselves (maybe their first album does, I only listen to Epitaph).
mastodon are FAR from underground, they got to number 11 in the billboard 200 with crack their skye...so ive proved that ignorant comment wrong progressive metal is a much smaller sub genre of metal than thrash, death, black and doom just to name a few, all of those use 4/4 almost entirely - so again, another statement proved wrong by me i like that you assume all i listen to is mainstream music aswell... so this so called knowlege you have isnt doing well is it?
i admit jeff loomis is very technically able, but just because you can, dosent mean you should. and the most common time signature in metal is 4/4...youre clearly showing your music theory knowlege here
The 7 and 8 string guitars do have point. some may use them to sound heavier but 7 and 8 string guitars have a bigger range of sound. and I hate emg haha.
i didnt say ALL metal, im not denying that a lot of prog metal is in different time signiatures, ableit not complex time signatures like meshuggah, but the rest are almost exclusively 4/4 oh and time signatures arent a 'drum rythmn'...all instruments play them you also mustnt have much knowlege of prog metal if you think its an underground genre, a lot of the prog bands play the biggest venues in the city when they tour theyre more popular than thrash, death and black metal
yes there is wether you like them or not, meshuggah are doing things in metal that nobody else is, or have ever done, id call that innovative wouldnt you regardless of wether you like them, that still dosent change the fact they are innovative. its not about opinion, its fact
i wouldnt say 7's are pointless, you say they sound muddy to you, thats fine, but hey, if you can use those 7 seven strings as well as they can, and still sound as good as they do, then fuck, go for it. as for 8's, only band ive seen use 8 strings is meshuggah, now that many strings seems pointless to me..but fuck meshuggah are heavy :)
because you saying time signature is a drum thing is wrong, because time signatures were 'invented' long before the drum kit and i can go into double figures with prog bands that are very successful in the us and we are arguing about prog, since you brought 2 prog bands into your argument of 'most metal is in odd time signatures' which its not, and both those bands dont utilise odd time signatures
fucking yeah right. trivium is good. but the black dahlia murder is the shit. i went to the same concert and the black dahlia murder fucking owned that concert. love bodom but the black dahlia should've been headlining. if you actually take the time to listen to them, none of there songs sound the same
Hey syke, I agree with you on one thing: Metal Hammer doesn't mean shit. However, all of your credibility was lost when you admitted to liking deathcore; double bass speed is hardly a deciding factor in drumming talent (albeit it is FAR from Travis' weakpoint, and he has a lot of strongs). Guaranteed he can run circles around any deathcore drummer in terms of fills, tom work, and cymbal work.
dude, as much as a love trivium, meshuggah are far more innovative, and not because they use 8 string guitars, infact, more than half of their discography is on 7 strings, its because they consistently think outside the box. their use of polyrhythms is fantastic, and to be honest, i dont really know why ive decided to tell 'triviumfreak' that trivium arent the most innovative band theyre far from it mate
Black Dahlia? I saw them live and they were horrific...yeah, they can riff and blast like monsters, but that's ALL they do. They're all one trick ponies. If you wanna talk death metal, why don't you go listen to Amoral, Arsis, Capharnaum, Necrophagist, or Spawn of Possession. They can all take steaming dumps down the throats of any of your deathcore bands in every facet, and they don't use/abuse breakdowns. Coming from a deathcore fan, saying someone isn't metal is a total joke.
way to go an generalise them and you can still think outside the box with 2 strings by using odd time signiatures, polyrythms and such jeff loomis plays fast, and does nothing else, i have his zero order phase album, mindless wanking shred is what it is
lol how can they sound like metallica? Metallica has never used 7 strings. But a lot of their riffing is metallica and pantera influenced. The crusade sounds the most like metallica
this part where the song drops and they play that riff while matts like "HE WHO SPAWNED THE FURIES SEVERED THE GENITALS OF HIS FATHER CREATING SUCH BEAUTY THE GODESS OF LOVE BUT THE BLOOD THAT FELL TO THE GROUND MADE THE ERINYES" literally makes me shit my pants every time
This might actually be the funniest comment I've ever read on youtube. Thank you.
I SHIT RIGHT NOW JUST FROM THOSE LYRICS
the solo in this song is just wicked. i go speechless when i hear it.
This has to be the Heaviest riff written by Trivium, fucking headbanging material no doubt. HE WHOOOOO SPAAAWNED THE FUUURIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This song has the most badass solo I've ever heard
Headbanging just isn't enough to enjoy it's awesomeness!
best song, and best riff on the album. period.
Metallica can only dream to play like Trivium... xD
when i first listened to the song i was like, its good but nothing great, until they played that bridge riff and i was like OH MY GOD THIS IS AWESOME!!
Exactly! Just damn too good!
I think when they come out with Shogun they really found their their own identities musically and left Metallica and all that behind. Because all these songs are really unique sounding I think and I also think they set the bar pretty high when this record come out.
...lol i like how they can still have fun instead of being all serious xD
dude anyone know tha tabs to that sharp screeching sound after that little break??????
i like the part before it too.. but yeah this part is sick. especially the screaming after it.
Then you need to learn to count. Thomas Haake's 'count' aka his cymbals, be it hi hat or china or whatever is usually in 4/4, but the music of Meshuggah is based on Polyrhythms meaning more than one.
Meshuggah is essentially a complex time figure over a basic 4/4 beat.
wat is the song playing b4 the vid even starts?
@diceasd how does this sound like metallica?
Uhhh... okay? What exactly does that have to do with how you play pinch harmonics?
Very true...Chuck Schuldiner is arguably my favorite musician ever...
i was just thinking that !
OMFG this part in the song is so fuckin badass! Its trying to kiiill mee!!!
You have to brush the thumb of your picking hand against the string when you pick the note.
heavy :D
no dude. its not on the video. its on the ablum version.
@diceasd yeh i remember the metallica song with that sounded like this, and the metallica song that sounds like pull harder or requiem....
amp settings definately, corey seems to have more low end and mat has a grainier sound
heavy as fuck!
This riffs great!
Just love shogun.
, great album.
bleed by meshuggah is a very disturbing but cool video.
@12345terrorblake wow..... you must have a lot of friends
Did someone know Corey gears? So aggressive!
most bands start to get old after three or four albums but i cant fuckin wait for trivium's new one cuz they seem to get better and better
best song in the world is definitley a tie between all of the ones on shogun
its some kind of harmonic, and they harmonize different harmonics i think, i haven't given it much listening and transcribing yet. ill give it a try. just try some really high pitched out of tune harmonics and u should get the gist of it.
@0.26 RAWWRRGGGG
no!! geeze. its not on the vid thats why i asked! its on the version i have. and i have the special edition album. its like a screeching sound.
@diceasd hell yeah
i need tabs
more like he who spawned the furries :O
@diceasd ????
Go back to hardcore dancing and throwing temper tantrums while your favorite band plays a generic open D, pig squealing breakdown. Looking like an uncoordinated Mr. Miyagi is pretty scene, I'm sure. BREE BREE
lol just slide down the frets starting on the 22 ish fret.
what about classical music (not the era, just traditional music in general), where everything musical wise was created, including time signiatures, there was no drum kits, time signatures are plaed on any instrument
and ever heard of a band called dream theater, on their newest dvd, theyre quite clearly playing huge arenas in america - that requires a lot of people to like them, thus not underground
and if you dont know much about prog, why argue about it...
some of these riffs sound like crap when i first hear them, but then i hear the song, with the vocals and drums and it sounds amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he also had an 89 on his black les paul
SHIT thats low
I didn't realize The Clash was being thrown into the mix here with Rock the Casbah. Regardless, Black Dahlia is average at best. I wasn't aware they stopped riffing long enough to play a breakdown, and Necrophagist has very few themselves (maybe their first album does, I only listen to Epitaph).
heaviest riff XD
mastodon are FAR from underground, they got to number 11 in the billboard 200 with crack their skye...so ive proved that ignorant comment wrong
progressive metal is a much smaller sub genre of metal than thrash, death, black and doom just to name a few, all of those use 4/4 almost entirely - so again, another statement proved wrong by me
i like that you assume all i listen to is mainstream music aswell...
so this so called knowlege you have isnt doing well is it?
LOL U MAED A FUNNI
i admit jeff loomis is very technically able, but just because you can, dosent mean you should.
and the most common time signature in metal is 4/4...youre clearly showing your music theory knowlege here
speed isnt music it's sport
@diceasd LOL
@CornerSquid He's making fun of how metallica sounds now (they're a lot softer).
dang travis smith is the shit.
Man those Deans were Ugly as shit looking back. I’m glad they dropped them almost immediately
sykeeee
@LtotheULZ it's a joke about how the are the metallica of now
The 7 and 8 string guitars do have point.
some may use them to sound heavier but 7 and 8 string guitars have a bigger range of sound.
and I hate emg haha.
i didnt say ALL metal, im not denying that a lot of prog metal is in different time signiatures, ableit not complex time signatures like meshuggah, but the rest are almost exclusively 4/4
oh and time signatures arent a 'drum rythmn'...all instruments play them
you also mustnt have much knowlege of prog metal if you think its an underground genre, a lot of the prog bands play the biggest venues in the city when they tour theyre more popular than thrash, death and black metal
dude meshuggah is in 4/4
if u want death metal go listen to fuckin death.. period.
thats called a slide
yes there is
wether you like them or not, meshuggah are doing things in metal that nobody else is, or have ever done, id call that innovative wouldnt you
regardless of wether you like them, that still dosent change the fact they are innovative. its not about opinion, its fact
Since I'm watching this on playlist, I'm getting just a tad tired of hearing the intro to Down from the sky lol.
i wouldnt say 7's are pointless, you say they sound muddy to you, thats fine, but hey, if you can use those 7 seven strings as well as they can, and still sound as good as they do, then fuck, go for it. as for 8's, only band ive seen use 8 strings is meshuggah, now that many strings seems pointless to me..but fuck meshuggah are heavy :)
@diceasd lol...will you be my friend even though you like Metallica? O.o
@diceasd Then in that case your not as bad as i first thought. (Y)
because you saying time signature is a drum thing is wrong, because time signatures were 'invented' long before the drum kit
and i can go into double figures with prog bands that are very successful in the us
and we are arguing about prog, since you brought 2 prog bands into your argument of 'most metal is in odd time signatures' which its not, and both those bands dont utilise odd time signatures
fucking yeah right. trivium is good. but the black dahlia murder is the shit. i went to the same concert and the black dahlia murder fucking owned that concert. love bodom but the black dahlia should've been headlining. if you actually take the time to listen to them, none of there songs sound the same
in reality...theres no such things as bands being "better than one other"...only if they try to copy the exact sound...all bands are different
@12345terrorblake yes, but i like all of metal and it's bastard offspring........ even suicide silence.
Hey syke, I agree with you on one thing: Metal Hammer doesn't mean shit. However, all of your credibility was lost when you admitted to liking deathcore; double bass speed is hardly a deciding factor in drumming talent (albeit it is FAR from Travis' weakpoint, and he has a lot of strongs). Guaranteed he can run circles around any deathcore drummer in terms of fills, tom work, and cymbal work.
@diceasd not at all, this is too dark for metallica besides its not in the key of E 8-|
dude, as much as a love trivium, meshuggah are far more innovative, and not because they use 8 string guitars, infact, more than half of their discography is on 7 strings, its because they consistently think outside the box. their use of polyrhythms is fantastic, and to be honest, i dont really know why ive decided to tell 'triviumfreak' that trivium arent the most innovative band
theyre far from it mate
Black Dahlia? I saw them live and they were horrific...yeah, they can riff and blast like monsters, but that's ALL they do. They're all one trick ponies. If you wanna talk death metal, why don't you go listen to Amoral, Arsis, Capharnaum, Necrophagist, or Spawn of Possession. They can all take steaming dumps down the throats of any of your deathcore bands in every facet, and they don't use/abuse breakdowns. Coming from a deathcore fan, saying someone isn't metal is a total joke.
trivium sounds more like metallica than metallica
my least fav is shogun gief torn and calisto :P
way to go an generalise them
and you can still think outside the box with 2 strings by using odd time signiatures, polyrythms and such
jeff loomis plays fast, and does nothing else, i have his zero order phase album, mindless wanking shred is what it is
lol how can they sound like metallica? Metallica has never used 7 strings. But a lot of their riffing is metallica and pantera influenced. The crusade sounds the most like metallica
couse metallica has lost the touch that trivium has........................ in other words, the contrast has changed
that's my least favorite song off of Shogun. I just didn't it like it as much as the others. The first 6 tracks were masterpieces though.
This sounds so tasteless without the drum and the scream
That riff was dull and lifeless, even if you like trivium dont deny it
wat? you mean the one coery did? dude just drag your pick down the e or in this case b string......... kinda brainless bro hahahah