He's never seen a cat before and in a stressful situation where he is on edge. A large cat like grudge even surprised Burnham. If that was big cat, he should be 3x as scared.
My theory on Georgieu is that the reason shes "sick" is due to the mirror universe being so distant in the 3000s from the prime as mentioned in an earlier ep. The doc will say "the only way to save her is to send her back to a time when it was closer" so they can return her back to the 23rd century just in time to lead up the Section 31 show.
I am glad Detmer is getting more presence on Discovery. I liked her from the moment I first saw her....but I also have a thing for pilots. And redheads. lol
I've always been fascinated with her too....When the hell, did she get those augments? During the "Battle Of The Binary Stars" or during the evacuation of the poor "U.S.S.Shenzhou??"
@@wadeleetorres2585 It was during the Battle of the Binary Stars that she was injured and lost her version 1.0 left optical sensor :) . It was directly due to Michael's actions, which is why she was not happy when Michael showed up from the prison shuttle. I'm glad this sequence shows her getting back on that horse.
you should check out Shield of tomarrow then it's a Star trek TTRPG that features a Red headed Bajorian helm officer (who now is the voice of the Protostar's computer on Star trek Prodogy)
She’s happy with the Discovery. That said, maybe a dedicated shuttle. Paris had the Flyer. Why not? And with this, she just ranked up there with some of the finest helmsman and pilots I’ve ever seen in Starfleet History alongside Hikaru Sulu, Tom Paris, and Will Riker. Sorry, but Crusher, Ro, Dax, and even Nog were decent - but not at that elite level. The jury is still out on Number One.
@@Agent_1701-D If Detner had the skills of a Tom Parris. He designed the Delta flyer to fill a niche none of the shuttles or Shuttleworth did. I'm not sure how long it would have taken Tom to build it but Janeway put a rush on it because it was needed for a special mission none of the shuttles could handle. That plus Belana was tired of rebuilding wrecked shuttles or shuttlepods. This reminded me of the trench attack run in star wars IV a new hope and the ending was like the finish of a basestar attack on the original Battlestar Galactica. At least these manual controls looked halfway like a yoke not an over grown joystick.
@@999benhonda Trek fans understand that things can change in 900 Years and that there might be different subspecies or ethnic groups. Only trolls that claim to be trek fans got an issue with either.
@@christopherg2347 the comment before you has nothing to do with trolling. These kinds of major genetic adaptations to species traits don't just happen in only 900 years those kind of major changes take much longer. If the antenna were cauterized that could be a explanation but as for the radical facial structure change that we see the same thing even with admiral shukar in the 2200s the 900 year evolutionary change excuse doesn't cut it. Those kinds of traits take thousands sometimes tens of thousands of years to change and develop The problem that I have is when shows try to fundamentally change things too radically too soon without any justification just for the sake of changing it up it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's the same thing with the Klingons being redesigned and looking more like they belong in a pirates of the Caribbean movie then Star Trek if you want to do some tweaks and adjustments there's nothing wrong with that but when they fundamentally change something so that it looks like a different species whether they try and retcon is being a specific cast or not it just doesn't work that well. If you want to change something up then you first justify the change you don't make the change then try to justify it in hindsight.
@@generalgrievous696 One word: Interbreeding. Humans love to do it. Denobulans are clearly open as well. Cardassians and Bajorans keep doing it by accident. What delusions did you need, to think Evolution is the only way for such changes?
Great Episode; First time no one cries, no overacting by Burnham, no hugging, Tilly is not and Burnham is not the topic. Credit: “Directed by Jonathan Frakes”
I've watched for the first time ST Discovery. It's great and Detmer is very pretty . Discovery is the second best series of Star Trek after Deep Space 9.
Unrelated but I'm so glad they got Tilly's hair to show more. It was waaay too tied up and didn't show how beautiful her red curls are. I kinda hate Burnham's hair in S1 and S2 but it got better later on.
I haven’t seen all the episodes out yet but I love this Ryn character! I hope he won’t be killed off. He should be a regular for sure. Maybe even a part of the crew? As many folks are dealing with depression/trauma in this pandemic he’s definitely a character they can identify with. I also wish they hadn’t killed off the Ithor Orion character. Although brief he was very charming with an edge. It could’ve developed into a very important character somehow. Especially seeing as the Osyraa character is really flat and uninteresting PS: Ryn and Tilly as a “Thing” fo sho...💙🧡💙
I've long thought that Federation Starships, especially those routinely treading into hostile (or potentially-hostile) territory need some kind of small "fighter-class" ships. I'm not talking shuttles. I'm talking smaller, heavily armed and wickedly maneuverable. You'd need at least a couple of those and pilots capable of flying them. Detmer is more of a "fighter pilot" than a helmsman. Not that she can't "do a donut, in a starship," launching an absurdly-heavy object out of the cargo bay in the process (honestly, that episode was both insanely funny and insanely cool).
I'm not surprised that type of situation happened prime directive breaking with consequences not to mention Starfleet is not as powerful as they used to be there fucked
A cat the still looks like a cat in the 32nd century or whatever century they are that still looks like a cat, while humans have so many alterations. Curious!
Ryn is a nice guy, but he is not an example of the typical Andorian. The Andorians are a warlike species, but Ryn is just too uneasy... He seems to lack the courage and self-confidance of Andorians.
Atanvardo Maybe you see all Andorrans through the lens of Shran (amazing character and actor) who was commander of an elite group in the Imperial Guard. It’d be like somebody seeing a Navy Seal and a Spetsnaz in action and thinking “Wow, American and Russian tailors are really brave and dangerous!” _feel free to answer with a Cardassian tailor joke_ 😄
@@cteal2018 That's a nice joke. Well that could be true if courage in Andorians are dependent of their antennae. I remember that, in Star Trek: Enterprise, Jon Archer fought Thy'lek Shran in a death duel and cut off one of his antennaes, ending up as the winner, and Shran didn't loose any courage. Btw, Archer winning over Shra was a very far-fetched outcome, let it be said... Shran was much better trained than him with those weapons, and as a fighter in an overall way. Well, the far-fetched outcomes of fights are far from uncommon in Star Trek...
@@yveslafrance2806 Hey friend! Well, you are missing the key point of my post: _The Andorians are a warlike species_ This tells that when I referred to the courage and self-confidence of Andorians, I was not based on Thy'lek Shran only, but on what _excatcly_ Andorians are as a species. And they are a warrior species. Andorians are maybe even more warlike than Romulans. I could say they fit somewhere between Klingons and Romulans to this respect (more like Romulans than Klingons, as seemingly almost all Klingons are warriors at some degree). Besides, Andorians have a very enduring "spirit", since they are from an icy planet where climate is very hostile, and, like Shran himself said to Archer, "the desert is difficult, but it is the cold that forges the true willpower" (something like that). Also, their uncommonly gristly bones are very difficult to be broken, making them rather tough opponents in unarmed combat.
@@atanvardo5730 more like the public nature I am sure that the Orion woman made of it. I would assume the public humiliation and constant reminder of it would have a psychological toll.
So for some reason they made Andorians look fucking ugly. They are my favourite blue alien besides the Na'Vi, so this is really sad. They also forgot Andorian antennas grow back. They grow back!
though not stated in the show, one could reason that his stubs were burned, and thus they can't grow back. That said, andorians don't have huge cheek bones or big ridges for eyebrows, and they are a much lighter blue. A few well known aliens races look different/silly in Discovery. The Orion males were all bald before, now they all have a Beetles style bowl cut.
I like the new Andorian prosthetics. They make them look less human and just as pretty IMO. And I'm with the prior person. They almost definitely cauterized them so they wouldn't grow back. It was a humiliation power move afterall.
@@parrot998 Eh, I'm of the opinion there's plenty of face-prosthetic peoples out there, and Andorians already looked distinctive without so much in the way of actors' faces. Enterprise got em right. And there's precedent for some darker blue Andorians, mind you, but it's seemingly pretty hard to make those dark blues not look like plastic. (And I don't know if they cut off Ryn's antennae fairly recently or intended to just keep doing it to him again if they grew back or what. )
@@OllamhDrab If you mean IRL, you are absolutely incorrect. The humanoid form is only conducive to certain environments, in other words, VERY Earth like environments. And even then the dominant species wouldn't necessarily take that form factor. It could take on an arachnoid/cephalopod/crab form factor, or an avian form. Depends which family is pressured towards the most practically useful brains to achieve sapience first. Different environments lead to different evolutionary pressures and thus a vastly different array of probable natural selection. For example, hands are a benefit but there are plenty of ways to be creative without them. Humans being the only tool using lifeform on this planet is a complete falsehood. Otters use rocks, some birds use sticks, octopi will use things like jars if they are in between them and food, ants farm and milk aphids, etc. Given enough time and pressure, they could learn to make things just as well as a humanoid. Star Trek even recognizes itself how silly the prevelance of humanoid sapients is, hence why TNG went out of it's way to explain it as an ancient civ seeding their genes throughout the galaxy. So more deviance from the humanoid form is good in my book as long as it makes sense... The andorians have always seemed a little gastropoda, having those sensative flexable antennae. So touching them up a bit to reflect that makes perfect sense, and I'd personally argue their new prosthetics make them look prettier than humans with that almost silky smooth looking skin, esp since it makes zero sense for them to have sweat pores seeing as they come from a place they'd never need them. (though TBF I also personally think humans are a kinda homely lifeform, so IMO it isn't that hard to improve), whereas the old design they looked too human for how different their anatomy would have to be both to accomodate their antennae, and the planet they came from.
@@parrot998 Uh, your claims make no sense cause Andorians actually are in the show mammalian bipeds ...and their homeworld isn't that much different from Earth.... Frankly nothing says their world even was as frigid as portrayed for their whole evolutionary history, and they clearly have underground dwellings and obviously fire.... None of which means they needed to make their faces bumpier or anything to do with gastropods. Star Trek's full of basically humanoid creatures as it is, so they don't really 'have' to make changes except hopefully, to make alien characters seem more alive. THat's hard to do with a lot of plastic.
What walking lines about breaking the directives hasn't changed at all not even in 3000.00years and I find it funny that they thought it would work detmer would end up in a prison cell for that
*Book's ship takes 3 hits after Detmer says that the shields are at 80%* "Shields at 10%" *Book's ship then immediately proceeds to eat 50+ hits and not only do the shields not go down, but they don't even get penetrated at all.* (Even Discovery's 32nd century shields suffered some small amount of damage bleed-through with every hit sustained... the sparks, explosions, crew getting thrown around a little etc.)
suspension much :D I don like this complete Mary Sue moments old Enterprise at least had exploding consoles to occasionally kill someone and was taking damage but here we have overpowered tiny ship that can singlehandedly take out capital ship without a scratch.
Either it's one person/group uploading all the videos from different channels for money from views, or its multiple channels stealing the video to post as their own. I'm leaning towards the former.
She is NOT "having a conversation and joking around with a blue dude." She is communicating with her co-pilot during their initial flight together. I.e., they're becoming a team.
after giving up at episode 2, i'm now checking out these snippets on youtube to try to like the show, but man, NOPE. Here's a cool spaceship battle! KITTIES! Getting shot at? HAVE ANOTHER DUMBASS MONOLOGUE. I had to shout somewhere.
I am not a huge fan of what they did to the Andorians looks for Discovery. Personally prefer how Enterprise updated them compared to the original series.
For some reason, large portions of this scene feel more like a gratuitous photo-bomb courtesy of the front of the small vessel with maneuverability somewhat inspired by the Millennial Falcon. ;-)
For the love of God - remove the other directors, and give Johnathan fricks the permanent directing position of discovery! The rest in are just garbage in comparison, This episode feels like real TREK!! No dominance of the annoying " Burnham "....just plain character development of many.
The producers need to give him the right scripts and maneuvering room to make a Trek episode. I wonder what "punishment" Detmer will receive for going rouge a little down time I hope.
The Mirror Defiant did similar maneuvers on a Mirror Negh’var class heavy cruiser. It is possible, especially with a small maneuvering ship going so close bigger ships can’t target them. So it is possible.
What the heck did they do to the look of the andorians? The ones from star trek Enterprise had some problems (but not many especially compared to previous st series) but they looked like actual beings even though you knew it was an actor underneath makeup. You could easily forget it was a human This just looks like an actor wearing a really cheap ugly Halloween mask and wig. The face hardly seems to move even when he's surprised by the cat and in a dangerous situation. Did they run out of money for hair and makeup and just went to party City?
This show is so bad. Who writes this? A small ship beating a heavy cruiser. Brook able to see his tiny ship from thousands of miles away. The star wars like battle scene. Saru thinking that the Emerald chain won't see this as an attack by the federation because a crewmember went rogue. All this to give more airtime to background crew/not showing Discovery weapons upgrade. And im not even talking about whats wrong with the rest of the episode.
1. Star Wars had fighters killing Star Destroyers and moon sized battle stations, Notice she didn't try to take it head on, she used the agility advantage and targeted specific systems.
What is Discovery's weapons upgrade? At least tell us she has quantum and transphasic torpedoes. You know, just in case the Borg come calling again -- I mean, who knows, but that busted-up Borg Cube in Romulan space during Picard Season One could have been another fluke like Hugh's ship in I, Borg. The rest of the damned Collective could be out there right now, sitting on the edge of the Alpha Quadrant and plotting revenge. And still, for all we know the gods-damned Borg caused the Burn in the first place and they're just waiting to see how the Fed pulls itself back together and improves its tech before they finally come in force. They do farm civilisations for their top tech, as many TH-camrs have surmised.
"A small ship beating a heavy cruiser". Yeah, Star Trek has never done something like this before... Oh, wait *looks at DS9's Mirror Defiant beating the the Mirror Negh'Var*
@@peter-xw1mu Oh, and the Negh'Var was not? And as cut-throat as the future the Disco currently is in is it's a safe bet that Book's ship will be well armed as well, especially when you remember that he'd worked as a courier for a crime syndicate hauling highly valueable cargo. So no, I still think your point is mute.
What do think would happen tilly your the most incompetent officer I've ever seen last time I saw this type of behavior was in the episode of deep space 9 the way of the warrior federation betrayed the klingon empire by letting gerrek listen in on a security meeting and the cardasian were ready for them didn't do any good though
Discovery is great at ruining good moments (her talking to Ryn) by having it make no sense within the story. Granted the ship was on automatic, which makes no sense given they are in a battle but it makes even less sense when she takes the auto pilot off and grabs the WII remotes. It looked silly in Star Trek Insurrection when Riker had the joystick control and it looked worse here. Also, there is a good reason why Gene said ships should look symmetrical...because they just look weird otherwise. And what kind of design is Books ship anyway? Is it a 1 man transport vessel with comfy sleeping quarters on the bridge? Or is it a warship with a bachelor pad behind the bridge? And what powers the ship's individual pieces whenever it separates to do a fast U turn? It may be the dumbest looking ship in all of star trek...and that includes the Oberth class!
What an absolute embarrassment to what Star Trek was. The low I.Q. humor is so cringy. (The cat jumping on the weak, cowardly male character.) Fan films are made better.
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Every elite dangerous player getting feels when she switches to manual flight.
The ship even wails like a straining Cobra Mk III
Ryn's reaction to Grudge is priceless!
He's never seen a cat before and in a stressful situation where he is on edge. A large cat like grudge even surprised Burnham. If that was big cat, he should be 3x as scared.
For all he knows it could have been a flerken.
"Threaten us, and we'll unleash Georgieu." "We'll be good."
tHiS iS stARfl33t!
My theory on Georgieu is that the reason shes "sick" is due to the mirror universe being so distant in the 3000s from the prime as mentioned in an earlier ep. The doc will say "the only way to save her is to send her back to a time when it was closer" so they can return her back to the 23rd century just in time to lead up the Section 31 show.
@@shayneoneill1506 and that was a very perceptive call, almost word for word what was said on the show
I am glad Detmer is getting more presence on Discovery. I liked her from the moment I first saw her....but I also have a thing for pilots. And redheads. lol
Not like she had much of a character arch to begin with...
I've always been fascinated with her too....When the hell, did she get those augments? During the "Battle Of The Binary Stars" or during the evacuation of the poor "U.S.S.Shenzhou??"
@@wadeleetorres2585 It was during the Battle of the Binary Stars that she was injured and lost her version 1.0 left optical sensor :) . It was directly due to Michael's actions, which is why she was not happy when Michael showed up from the prison shuttle. I'm glad this sequence shows her getting back on that horse.
The actress is Emily Coutts, now you can google her and find her on FB ! yw!
you should check out Shield of tomarrow then it's a Star trek TTRPG that features a Red headed Bajorian helm officer (who now is the voice of the Protostar's computer on Star trek Prodogy)
Someone get Detmer her own ship, it's the only time she's truly happy
She’s happy with the Discovery. That said, maybe a dedicated shuttle. Paris had the Flyer. Why not?
And with this, she just ranked up there with some of the finest helmsman and pilots I’ve ever seen in Starfleet History alongside Hikaru Sulu, Tom Paris, and Will Riker. Sorry, but Crusher, Ro, Dax, and even Nog were decent - but not at that elite level. The jury is still out on Number One.
@@Agent_1701-D
If Detner had the skills of a Tom Parris. He designed the Delta flyer to fill a niche none of the shuttles or Shuttleworth did. I'm not sure how long it would have taken Tom to build it but Janeway put a rush on it because it was needed for a special mission none of the shuttles could handle. That plus Belana was tired of rebuilding wrecked shuttles or shuttlepods. This reminded me of the trench attack run in star wars IV a new hope and the ending was like the finish of a basestar attack on the original Battlestar Galactica. At least these manual controls looked halfway like a yoke not an over grown joystick.
as someone who plays elite dangerous a lot, i greatly enjoyed Demter’s flying
Booker’s flying Dorito is so badass.
"I'll try spinning, that's a neat trick."
I loved this!! I like Detmer a lot, it's great that she's getting screen time.
Agreed🖖
Damn Detmer can fly
Yeah better become both a helmswoman & a fighter pilot than 1. She's really hell of a pilot.
Ryn was freaked by Grudge. But I didn’t see him stop using our Space Catte as a security blanket.
0:54 🤣 🤣 🤣 i officially love Ryn. And I REALLY love that cat!
Love Ryn’s face when grudge jumps on him
Flying manual!
A girl after my heart!
"Andorean without antenna is no Andorean. They take 9 months to grow back"- Commander , later General, Shran of Andorean Imperial Guard.
they also don't have huge cheek bones, eyebrow ridges...and they are a lighter blue, but who really cares right? Oh year, trek fans do!
@@999benhonda Trek fans understand that things can change in 900 Years and that there might be different subspecies or ethnic groups.
Only trolls that claim to be trek fans got an issue with either.
Shran had medical atention to help his grow back. Ryn's were cauterised to stop them growing.
@@christopherg2347 the comment before you has nothing to do with trolling. These kinds of major genetic adaptations to species traits don't just happen in only 900 years those kind of major changes take much longer. If the antenna were cauterized that could be a explanation but as for the radical facial structure change that we see the same thing even with admiral shukar in the 2200s the 900 year evolutionary change excuse doesn't cut it. Those kinds of traits take thousands sometimes tens of thousands of years to change and develop
The problem that I have is when shows try to fundamentally change things too radically too soon without any justification just for the sake of changing it up it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
It's the same thing with the Klingons being redesigned and looking more like they belong in a pirates of the Caribbean movie then Star Trek if you want to do some tweaks and adjustments there's nothing wrong with that but when they fundamentally change something so that it looks like a different species whether they try and retcon is being a specific cast or not it just doesn't work that well.
If you want to change something up then you first justify the change you don't make the change then try to justify it in hindsight.
@@generalgrievous696 One word:
Interbreeding.
Humans love to do it. Denobulans are clearly open as well. Cardassians and Bajorans keep doing it by accident.
What delusions did you need, to think Evolution is the only way for such changes?
Great Episode; First time no one cries, no overacting by Burnham, no hugging, Tilly is not and Burnham is not the topic.
Credit: “Directed by Jonathan Frakes”
Makes sense. The only one episode I felt was a lot like actual Star Trek back in season one was apparently also directed by Frakes.
Hear...hear and rejoice!
I loved this scene, and I love Detmer, give her , her own ship .... with a lot of toys!
Wonderful scene ... wonderful music. Detmer develops well!
I've watched for the first time ST Discovery. It's great and Detmer is very pretty .
Discovery is the second best series of Star Trek after Deep Space 9.
I never laughed so much when grudge jumps on him and his reaction
I love how Keyla always first look at Owo like she ask silently for Owo's opinion 😍
Man those shields dipped to 10% fast then just lasted forever to let her unleash a barrage.
Ok, that Andorian makeup is pretty good.
Now you made us really mad, we are going nuclear, hey, did you hear me, helllloooo!
I wish Ryn was on the show longer. He was adorable and hot. Damn you Osyrra for killing him.
Unrelated but I'm so glad they got Tilly's hair to show more. It was waaay too tied up and didn't show how beautiful her red curls are. I kinda hate Burnham's hair in S1 and S2 but it got better later on.
0:57 "What the hell is this?!"
It's a Flerken! If you don't calm down, he's going to eat you!
Millennium Falcon 2.0
I'm so sad they're ending the Discovery series 😢
2:45 I have just noticed Grudge running around to the age
I haven’t seen all the episodes out yet but I love this Ryn character! I hope he won’t be killed off. He should be a regular for sure. Maybe even a part of the crew? As many folks are dealing with depression/trauma in this pandemic he’s definitely a character they can identify with.
I also wish they hadn’t killed off the Ithor Orion character. Although brief he was very charming with an edge. It could’ve developed into a very important character somehow. Especially seeing as the Osyraa character is really flat and uninteresting
PS: Ryn and Tilly as a “Thing” fo sho...💙🧡💙
About Ryn,.....
Honestly Ryn and Tilly should get married... I'm just saying
Saru with that smug response.
I've long thought that Federation Starships, especially those routinely treading into hostile (or potentially-hostile) territory need some kind of small "fighter-class" ships. I'm not talking shuttles. I'm talking smaller, heavily armed and wickedly maneuverable.
You'd need at least a couple of those and pilots capable of flying them. Detmer is more of a "fighter pilot" than a helmsman.
Not that she can't "do a donut, in a starship," launching an absurdly-heavy object out of the cargo bay in the process (honestly, that episode was both insanely funny and insanely cool).
This scene gives me Star Wars vibes.
I'm not surprised that type of situation happened prime directive breaking with consequences not to mention Starfleet is not as powerful as they used to be there fucked
Try spinning! That's a good trick!
So this future is like star trek and star wars had a baby lol.
Those steps back i was talking about earlier
The cgi was awesome, for a tv series....
would be nice if we werent ambushed by that loud music at the end of these things
Trench run!!!!! Lol
Detmer looks like a young Marcia Cross.
0:55 I don't know why alien scared by cat
A cat the still looks like a cat in the 32nd century or whatever century they are that still looks like a cat, while humans have so many alterations. Curious!
She seems very unhappy about all those scratches on her shiney ship's paint!
I would like to see a 1v1 with mr. paris and detmer.
What is it with sci-fi shows and housing critical components outside of the ship's hull?
That controller is HTC vive controller
why are there so many channels uploading star trek discovery episodes sections with the exact same outro?
Ikr its annoying
@@reginald_280 I wonder if its like bots or something like that, I have found many channels with that outro
Its like if OnStar actually went out trying to have snipers pop peoples tires on a highway and then they just roll up asking do you need any help
ryn and tully should get togeather on the show they married in real life be a good story line lol
No
Ryn is a nice guy, but he is not an example of the typical Andorian. The Andorians are a warlike species, but Ryn is just too uneasy... He seems to lack the courage and self-confidance of Andorians.
Atanvardo Maybe you see all Andorrans through the lens of Shran (amazing character and actor) who was commander of an elite group in the Imperial Guard.
It’d be like somebody seeing a Navy Seal and a Spetsnaz in action and thinking “Wow, American and Russian tailors are really brave and dangerous!”
_feel free to answer with a Cardassian tailor joke_ 😄
See how much courage you have after your antennae are cut off...lol.
@@cteal2018 That's a nice joke. Well that could be true if courage in Andorians are dependent of their antennae. I remember that, in Star Trek: Enterprise, Jon Archer fought Thy'lek Shran in a death duel and cut off one of his antennaes, ending up as the winner, and Shran didn't loose any courage. Btw, Archer winning over Shra was a very far-fetched outcome, let it be said... Shran was much better trained than him with those weapons, and as a fighter in an overall way. Well, the far-fetched outcomes of fights are far from uncommon in Star Trek...
@@yveslafrance2806 Hey friend! Well, you are missing the key point of my post: _The Andorians are a warlike species_
This tells that when I referred to the courage and self-confidence of Andorians, I was not based on Thy'lek Shran only, but on what _excatcly_ Andorians are as a species. And they are a warrior species. Andorians are maybe even more warlike than Romulans. I could say they fit somewhere between Klingons and Romulans to this respect (more like Romulans than Klingons, as seemingly almost all Klingons are warriors at some degree). Besides, Andorians have a very enduring "spirit", since they are from an icy planet where climate is very hostile, and, like Shran himself said to Archer, "the desert is difficult, but it is the cold that forges the true willpower" (something like that). Also, their uncommonly gristly bones are very difficult to be broken, making them rather tough opponents in unarmed combat.
@@atanvardo5730 more like the public nature I am sure that the Orion woman made of it. I would assume the public humiliation and constant reminder of it would have a psychological toll.
So for some reason they made Andorians look fucking ugly. They are my favourite blue alien besides the Na'Vi, so this is really sad.
They also forgot Andorian antennas grow back. They grow back!
though not stated in the show, one could reason that his stubs were burned, and thus they can't grow back. That said, andorians don't have huge cheek bones or big ridges for eyebrows, and they are a much lighter blue. A few well known aliens races look different/silly in Discovery. The Orion males were all bald before, now they all have a Beetles style bowl cut.
I like the new Andorian prosthetics. They make them look less human and just as pretty IMO. And I'm with the prior person. They almost definitely cauterized them so they wouldn't grow back. It was a humiliation power move afterall.
@@parrot998 Eh, I'm of the opinion there's plenty of face-prosthetic peoples out there, and Andorians already looked distinctive without so much in the way of actors' faces. Enterprise got em right. And there's precedent for some darker blue Andorians, mind you, but it's seemingly pretty hard to make those dark blues not look like plastic. (And I don't know if they cut off Ryn's antennae fairly recently or intended to just keep doing it to him again if they grew back or what. )
@@OllamhDrab If you mean IRL, you are absolutely incorrect. The humanoid form is only conducive to certain environments, in other words, VERY Earth like environments. And even then the dominant species wouldn't necessarily take that form factor. It could take on an arachnoid/cephalopod/crab form factor, or an avian form. Depends which family is pressured towards the most practically useful brains to achieve sapience first.
Different environments lead to different evolutionary pressures and thus a vastly different array of probable natural selection.
For example, hands are a benefit but there are plenty of ways to be creative without them. Humans being the only tool using lifeform on this planet is a complete falsehood. Otters use rocks, some birds use sticks, octopi will use things like jars if they are in between them and food, ants farm and milk aphids, etc. Given enough time and pressure, they could learn to make things just as well as a humanoid.
Star Trek even recognizes itself how silly the prevelance of humanoid sapients is, hence why TNG went out of it's way to explain it as an ancient civ seeding their genes throughout the galaxy. So more deviance from the humanoid form is good in my book as long as it makes sense...
The andorians have always seemed a little gastropoda, having those sensative flexable antennae. So touching them up a bit to reflect that makes perfect sense, and I'd personally argue their new prosthetics make them look prettier than humans with that almost silky smooth looking skin, esp since it makes zero sense for them to have sweat pores seeing as they come from a place they'd never need them. (though TBF I also personally think humans are a kinda homely lifeform, so IMO it isn't that hard to improve), whereas the old design they looked too human for how different their anatomy would have to be both to accomodate their antennae, and the planet they came from.
@@parrot998 Uh, your claims make no sense cause Andorians actually are in the show mammalian bipeds ...and their homeworld isn't that much different from Earth.... Frankly nothing says their world even was as frigid as portrayed for their whole evolutionary history, and they clearly have underground dwellings and obviously fire.... None of which means they needed to make their faces bumpier or anything to do with gastropods. Star Trek's full of basically humanoid creatures as it is, so they don't really 'have' to make changes except hopefully, to make alien characters seem more alive. THat's hard to do with a lot of plastic.
What walking lines about breaking the directives hasn't changed at all not even in 3000.00years and I find it funny that they thought it would work detmer would end up in a prison cell for that
Detmer Skywalker
*Book's ship takes 3 hits after Detmer says that the shields are at 80%* "Shields at 10%" *Book's ship then immediately proceeds to eat 50+ hits and not only do the shields not go down, but they don't even get penetrated at all.* (Even Discovery's 32nd century shields suffered some small amount of damage bleed-through with every hit sustained... the sparks, explosions, crew getting thrown around a little etc.)
suspension much :D I don like this complete Mary Sue moments old Enterprise at least had exploding consoles to occasionally kill someone and was taking damage but here we have overpowered tiny ship that can singlehandedly take out capital ship without a scratch.
Computer activate Wii controls and give them to me....
Meme worthy.
Someone should make a meme with the Wii Weather channel music playing once she takes manual control.
@@EddieDexterStewart i laughed so hard just imagining this😂😂
More like Occulus Rift controls...or Vive.
@@EddieDexterStewart YES
I'm sorry but you do not have authority to access those codes
That was very advanced tech is it nanotech of far more advanced?
Programmable Matter.
@@Gothic7876 that was so advance tech there.
Either it's one person/group uploading all the videos from different channels for money from views, or its multiple channels stealing the video to post as their own. I'm leaning towards the former.
This requires such finesse that I must do it manually. But at the same time, I can have a conversation and joke around with a blue dude.
She is NOT "having a conversation and joking around with a blue dude." She is communicating with her co-pilot during their initial flight together. I.e., they're becoming a team.
And people said fighter craft would be useless in Star Trek battles.
To be fair it's not exactly a fighter. It's equal in size to La Sirena which was considered, weirdly, a freighter.
SUPER HOT WOMAN SUPER HOT PILOT PUT A GREEN RING ON THE FINGER BY THE WAY WHERE IS KHAN?????????????
What have done to the look of the andorians
after giving up at episode 2, i'm now checking out these snippets on youtube to try to like the show, but man, NOPE. Here's a cool spaceship battle! KITTIES! Getting shot at? HAVE ANOTHER DUMBASS MONOLOGUE. I had to shout somewhere.
Wow that big ships weak as hell.
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Sure that wasn't an imperial star destroyer in disguise???? Sure failed like one!!!!!
What did these numb nuts think would happen because of their nonsense foolish actions
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I am not a huge fan of what they did to the Andorians looks for Discovery. Personally prefer how Enterprise updated them compared to the original series.
Detmer is so HOT !
What the hell is this what's that noise it's making
I feel that Shatner quote comming on GET A LIFE PEOPLE the show is not consistent that is the writers fault
Agreed, I'm not even sure what I just watched. Heck I only clicked on it because I am bored.
For some reason, large portions of this scene feel more like a gratuitous photo-bomb
courtesy of the front of the small vessel
with maneuverability somewhat inspired by the Millennial Falcon. ;-)
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If you face something u can beat it?????? This feels like star wars .
They just started another FUCKING WAR !!!!!! FACEPALM!!!!!!!
For the love of God - remove the other directors, and give Johnathan fricks the permanent directing position of discovery!
The rest in are just garbage in comparison,
This episode feels like real TREK!!
No dominance of the annoying " Burnham "....just plain character development of many.
The producers need to give him the right scripts and maneuvering room to make a Trek episode. I wonder what "punishment" Detmer will receive for going rouge a little down time I hope.
El capítulo me ha decepcionado un poco, la negra protagonista de mirada intensa y la gorda no han llorado juntas.
star wars looking battle....much..??
A fighter taking on a heavy destroyer? I’m sorry but wtf, this is just hurting my mind on different levels
The Mirror Defiant did similar maneuvers on a Mirror Negh’var class heavy cruiser. It is possible, especially with a small maneuvering ship going so close bigger ships can’t target them. So it is possible.
It's like the oldest sci-fi trope there is. Plucky rogues going up against the evil empire.
USS Defiant ;)
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Jar Jar Abrams phaser fire totally sucks the big one.
What the heck did they do to the look of the andorians?
The ones from star trek Enterprise had some problems (but not many especially compared to previous st series) but they looked like actual beings even though you knew it was an actor underneath makeup. You could easily forget it was a human
This just looks like an actor wearing a really cheap ugly Halloween mask and wig. The face hardly seems to move even when he's surprised by the cat and in a dangerous situation.
Did they run out of money for hair and makeup and just went to party City?
This show is so bad. Who writes this? A small ship beating a heavy cruiser. Brook able to see his tiny ship from thousands of miles away. The star wars like battle scene. Saru thinking that the Emerald chain won't see this as an attack by the federation because a crewmember went rogue. All this to give more airtime to background crew/not showing Discovery weapons upgrade. And im not even talking about whats wrong with the rest of the episode.
1. Star Wars had fighters killing Star Destroyers and moon sized battle stations, Notice she didn't try to take it head on, she used the agility advantage and targeted specific systems.
What is Discovery's weapons upgrade? At least tell us she has quantum and transphasic torpedoes. You know, just in case the Borg come calling again -- I mean, who knows, but that busted-up Borg Cube in Romulan space during Picard Season One could have been another fluke like Hugh's ship in I, Borg. The rest of the damned Collective could be out there right now, sitting on the edge of the Alpha Quadrant and plotting revenge. And still, for all we know the gods-damned Borg caused the Burn in the first place and they're just waiting to see how the Fed pulls itself back together and improves its tech before they finally come in force. They do farm civilisations for their top tech, as many TH-camrs have surmised.
"A small ship beating a heavy cruiser". Yeah, Star Trek has never done something like this before... Oh, wait *looks at DS9's Mirror Defiant beating the the Mirror Negh'Var*
@@TV22011980 The Defiant. A ship specifically built as a warship for the Dominion war. What a great comparison.
@@peter-xw1mu Oh, and the Negh'Var was not? And as cut-throat as the future the Disco currently is in is it's a safe bet that Book's ship will be well armed as well, especially when you remember that he'd worked as a courier for a crime syndicate hauling highly valueable cargo. So no, I still think your point is mute.
Can we have Detmer replace Burnham as the main character instead
doesn't feel right
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Exterior shots look more like bad star wars than bad star trek.
Kurtzman has said that Star Wars inspired him as a kid, He has no real love or respect for Trek.
What the hell is this 🤦♂️
Flying by Wii
It's a Star Wars fan-fiction.
What do think would happen tilly your the most incompetent officer I've ever seen last time I saw this type of behavior was in the episode of deep space 9 the way of the warrior federation betrayed the klingon empire by letting gerrek listen in on a security meeting and the cardasian were ready for them didn't do any good though
Discovery is great at ruining good moments (her talking to Ryn) by having it make no sense within the story. Granted the ship was on automatic, which makes no sense given they are in a battle but it makes even less sense when she takes the auto pilot off and grabs the WII remotes. It looked silly in Star Trek Insurrection when Riker had the joystick control and it looked worse here. Also, there is a good reason why Gene said ships should look symmetrical...because they just look weird otherwise. And what kind of design is Books ship anyway? Is it a 1 man transport vessel with comfy sleeping quarters on the bridge? Or is it a warship with a bachelor pad behind the bridge? And what powers the ship's individual pieces whenever it separates to do a fast U turn? It may be the dumbest looking ship in all of star trek...and that includes the Oberth class!
Worst Star Trek Battle ever!!!!!
Why does this awful show keep showing up on my recommendations? It's written for a 12-year-old.
*BY 12 year olds. Yeah, I'm with ya.
What an absolute embarrassment to what Star Trek was. The low I.Q. humor is so cringy. (The cat jumping on the weak, cowardly male character.) Fan films are made better.
Some of the worst dialogue in the history of all tv shows holy shit.