@@timothybruns2775 he was slightly better at peak but Wagner has had a better career, still playing, has a Super Bowl, and is one of the best linebackers ever in terms of his peak too. So just due to how long his career was I chose him. I don’t disagree with you though.
@KaiTheBeachKid that's also what I thought, but if you look at the demise of the Panthers, you can link it to his retirement. The Seahawks defence was regressing with the retirement of Kam Chancellor, and Wagner was still a Seahawk until 2022. Luke Kuechly was the best LB ever since he was drafted and was the only player to win the DPOY with J.J. Watt in his prime. Everyone gave Cam Newton the plaudits for the Panthers, but Kuechly was the best player on the team.
@KaiTheBeachKid "best defensive player" not "defensive player with the best career". Honestly, whichever person they went with, someone would argue with the pick.
gotta great video idea for ya. make a video of the best team at each age. for instance you would make the best team consisting of any age 25 player throughout history.
When it’s barely over a season into each of their careers I think it makes sense to give to it the ROY and move on, but Jalen Carter just had one of the most dominant games of the year by a defensive player
Luke Kuechly was better than Wagner, and Wagner is one of my favourite players of all time.
@@timothybruns2775 he was slightly better at peak but Wagner has had a better career, still playing, has a Super Bowl, and is one of the best linebackers ever in terms of his peak too. So just due to how long his career was I chose him. I don’t disagree with you though.
@@KaiTheBeachKid Two super bowls one for Seahawks one with rams pretty sure😊😌
@@brandonrambo5694 he wasn't on that rams team
@KaiTheBeachKid that's also what I thought, but if you look at the demise of the Panthers, you can link it to his retirement.
The Seahawks defence was regressing with the retirement of Kam Chancellor, and Wagner was still a Seahawk until 2022.
Luke Kuechly was the best LB ever since he was drafted and was the only player to win the DPOY with J.J. Watt in his prime.
Everyone gave Cam Newton the plaudits for the Panthers, but Kuechly was the best player on the team.
@KaiTheBeachKid "best defensive player" not "defensive player with the best career".
Honestly, whichever person they went with, someone would argue with the pick.
Crazy seeing no Myles Garrett on here but makes sense with TJ
@@PristinePaper yeah that one could go either way but all pro first teams gave edge to tj watt
2010 Is ndamakung Suh
@@sokaripowell9076 higher peak I agree. Just longevity vs peak. It was a coin flip for me
gotta great video idea for ya. make a video of the best team at each age. for instance you would make the best team consisting of any age 25 player throughout history.
@@lolsmileyfaceSB I like this
Chandler jones is way better than wagner
Jalen Carter> Will Anderson and its not close.
When it’s barely over a season into each of their careers I think it makes sense to give to it the ROY and move on, but Jalen Carter just had one of the most dominant games of the year by a defensive player
Taking Roquan over Fred is certainly a call. Not saying it’s wrong, but it’s definitely debatable.
Could go either way
2011 is Von Miller! He single handedly won Broncos a championship. His 2015 playoff run was legendary
Not over watt lol come on
Love your content! You might want to explore doing honorable mentions for these types of videos:)
Thanks man. And yeah I’ve considered mentioning and maybe should but I’ve left them out just for the sake of simplicity
Yeah def keep doing these
@@treypaige2985 thanks man gonna keep doing similar type of videos
Paul Krause had the most interceptions as a safety 81
Ngata!!!! I forgot he won with both my teams
Crosby>>>>Bosa
That could go either way. Bosa gets the nod due to DPOY and all pro selections
McCoy over Suh?
2022 is Hutchinson you got that one wrong
2022 gave me slight pause but sauce has been a first team all pro in each of his first two seasons so at this point in time he’s the correct choice