After Alice was put in Rutledge Asylum, the Queen of Hearts apparently merged with the Red Queen from the Looking-Glass World and functioned as one entity, beginning a much crueler rule over Wonderland and commanding both the Card Army and Red Chess pieces. This new "Red Queen" became the source of the corruption and evil that was afflicting Wonderland..... Basically the Queen of Hearts possessed the Red Queen and became one. its in the wiki btw
Ah, thank you. I knew all that but I'm glad I understood you. Still, the Queen is alive. Who knows what she's going to do after Madness Returns. The only reason she helped Alice was because there would be no Wonderland to rule if the train destroys it.
it is bothersome that people tend to confuse the queen of hearts with the red queen. i think, however, they meshed them together for the purpose of the game. while playing you meet the red king and both the white queen and king. the red queen as a piece is absent. this was probably more of an aforethought than a mistake. n___~
@CinnabonChan With the old Red Queen dead, the Queen of Hearts takes her authority and makes the Red King swear allegiance to her. With so much power and Alice's madness coursing through her, she spreads her influence throughout Wonderland in the form of tentacles, wrapping them around Alice's mind and keeping her insane so the Queen will remain powerful. Her reign of terror, pain, chaos and misery lasts for ten long years...
true.i know what she was like.and how horrible some of the people were towards her.one of the orderlies nephews force feed while they held her down and then did "things" to her rabbit.then she broke and retaliated by stabbing one of them in the cheek with a spoon and then slit her wrists with the same spoon so the doctors drugged her and confined her.and if the asylum in madness is true then they also used shock therapy on her as well as leeches and lobotomy
I agree with what the cat said, that Wonderland is damaged. Obviously Alice's mental struggle isn't over but at least she made peace with her past. Do you know what Alice was like while she was insane at Rutledge Asylum?
ur welcome:)i always thought that the queen was trying to help alice in her own twisted madness returns in that she made realize she was suppressing her memories of the fire.she even kinda lampshaded it at the end of the 1st game
@Aqua311 The last one make sense actually. The Red Queen in the book was actually quite nice at heart, even if she acted like a bossy schoolmarm. I can see the Queen of Hearts disposing of her in a coup (since the White chess pieces are still around)
@CinnabonChan Indeed. They always combine the two... but perhaps that's the thing. At the end of Looking Glass, Alice figured out the Red Queen was the cause of the mischief. When Alice went insane, the tyrannical Queen of Hearts merged with the Red Queen, becoming one and giving her dominion over the cards and red chess pieces, making her army big enough to conquer all of Wonderland. It's also possible the Queen of Hearts had the original Red Queen executed and took her crown.
It sounds like the theme they used in that animated series from Hilda Netflix in the episode where the Marra Spirit disappears by the campfire gathering.
I think the Super was just confused, or maybe Alice based her drawings off of something he recognized. Who knows? You can find the letter in the literature section of the wikia.
Well at least it was intentional in this case, but everywhere else, the two queens always seem to get merged. The Tim Burton Alice didn't help things either.
I really hate how they always merge the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen together when aside from being queens who wear red, they have nothing in common with eachother (the Red Queen is actually rather nice, in a prickly, schoolmarmish sort of way)
yeah i know.those r the only wikias i trust r the ones made for the game or show or what have you cuz there usually pretty accurate and there made by the people who created the game.plus they always have the backstory as well.any way i read it and the last entry which i guess is when she got out seemed like she(alice) wrote it
Sam Adkins If you want to download it in the computer you must download a program called Songr , when you have the program installed there is an option to put a link for download the song or a video from that link, you only must copy the link of this song ant it download it . If you want this song on a mobile phone you have to download two programs , tubemate and MP3 Video Converter, when you have both , you only must get in the program of Tubemate and is like youtube , the only thing you must do is look this song and when you clicked the video there must be on the top of the video a green arrow , when you clicked the arrow it will appear some options , click the last one and wait and then you must have the song ! I hope this helps you , sorry for my English (I'm from spain XD)
but thats the thing though.what her being so calm means she got worse and London and wonderland merging means she gone insane again?i like to think it means she got better but there also what the cat said too.he told her that we can never go back home again and idk if he means hounditch,her familys house or back to London itself bcuz shes insane again
@vfdsunny9 Yes but the other one was entitled correctly to the Official Soundtrack...Go look if you don't believe me... This is the true battle music, but the other one was not named as a mistake on Athrix225's part...
And you see a man in a black lab coat and an otorhinolaryngologist's mirror on his head. He holds a long saw that seems to also act as a needle. The glowing blu liquid it holds is unknown to you but the evil glint in his eye brings shivers down your spine. Then, in a thick german accent, he whispers to you, "Ze only s'ing I can tell you about zis next procedure... it zat it vill be... excruciating."
huh true.she might try to take over again since alice`s mind may b in a fragile state if u think about what happened at the end of madness returns as alice`s condition geting worse becuz of what she experienced over the course of the game.
oh im sorry:(i shoulda explained it a little better.alice is the one repressing her memories of the fire and the queen told to remember them and realize she knew who really did it and to make her(alice`s)survival mean something or else they(all of wonderland)were doomed.this is from madness returns btw
no i didnt see that.what did it say?also the head,the superintendent he seemed really weird too.like he knew something.and then his nephews just so happen too torment her a few days later
@MetalXXGod The Red King has always been a chess piece. The same way the Red Queen has. But idk about the Queen of Hearts...she kinda freaking the shit outta me.
I'm kinda confused, mostly by the way you're talking. Who did you say was suppressing the memories of the fire? The Queen or Alice? I just want to get what you're saying.
I can answer that actually. In this game, the Queen of Hearts murdered the Red Queen and took her place if I remember correctly. You never see the Red Queen ingame, unlike the White Queen. Makes sense, considering the Red Army seem almost demonic really.
Woah! Just found out that Alice was made by EA Games ( well I'm a moron!)! That explains why theirs an outfit of Alice that your character can where in MySims! (Stupid me!)
LordofFullmetal the alice games use to scare me when i was younger. but now i find there dark and scary atmosphere entertaining, and not even scary in the smallest amount. games with jump scares on the other hand terrify me greatly! i can handle the alice games, but not anything with a jump scare.
+supersonicfan1313 Really? You mustn't be a massive horror fan; people who are really into horror usually get desensitised to jump scares pretty quickly. You can usually tell when they're coming if you know horror well, and once you figure that out they lose their power.
+LordofFullmetal just because i don't like jump scares doesn't mean i'm not a big fan of the horror genre. while i admit its not my favorite, i still like it somewhat. i'm more of an action adventure fan.
Terrifying to think Alice is essentially fighting the very embodiment of her Survivor's Guilt and trauma at this point in the game...
inner demon.
Every boss fight in this series has some sort of symbolism
After Alice was put in Rutledge Asylum, the Queen of Hearts apparently merged with the Red Queen from the Looking-Glass World and functioned as one entity, beginning a much crueler rule over Wonderland and commanding both the Card Army and Red Chess pieces. This new "Red Queen" became the source of the corruption and evil that was afflicting Wonderland.....
Basically the Queen of Hearts possessed the Red Queen and became one. its in the wiki btw
The name of this track is titled 'The Puppet Queen' and it is track 7 on the American McGee's Alice Unreleased Score Soundtrack
Ah, thank you. I knew all that but I'm glad I understood you.
Still, the Queen is alive. Who knows what she's going to do after Madness Returns. The only reason she helped Alice was because there would be no Wonderland to rule if the train destroys it.
If you listen close, you can hear the Red Queen roar in the backround at one point in the song
Agreed! I've read in many comic books, that the Red Queen is in fact quite kind or fair, whereas the Queen of Hearts is...well...rather insane.
Best final battle theme ever...
this game rocked! Ive completed it so many times, is epic.
fun fact this music was mentioned in the original creepypasta sonic exe at the eggman level
This is giving me some Mono/Thin Man showdown vibes.
Both Alice and Mono are fighting themselves or at least a part of them.
It's funny how this music reminds me of someone carving something with a knife, yet you don't use the knife in this fight, lol.
Yeah they forgot this one in the OST CD and its like the VERY BEST SONG!
Thank you SO MUCH for this song I have been looking for it FOREVER
No sabía que extrañaba tanto escuchar esto.
I just kept hitting the replay button! xD Loe all the songs and the game so much! Cant wait for part 2!!
it is bothersome that people tend to confuse the queen of hearts with the red queen. i think, however, they meshed them together for the purpose of the game. while playing you meet the red king and both the white queen and king. the red queen as a piece is absent. this was probably more of an aforethought than a mistake. n___~
The wiki for the game states these two merged after Alice’s mental health declined I think.
@CinnabonChan With the old Red Queen dead, the Queen of Hearts takes her authority and makes the Red King swear allegiance to her. With so much power and Alice's madness coursing through her, she spreads her influence throughout Wonderland in the form of tentacles, wrapping them around Alice's mind and keeping her insane so the Queen will remain powerful. Her reign of terror, pain, chaos and misery lasts for ten long years...
true.i know what she was like.and how horrible some of the people were towards her.one of the orderlies nephews force feed while they held her down and then did "things" to her rabbit.then she broke and retaliated by stabbing one of them in the cheek with a spoon and then slit her wrists with the same spoon so the doctors drugged her and confined her.and if the asylum in madness is true then they also used shock therapy on her as well as leeches and lobotomy
In my opinion one of the creepiest music I have ever heard in my live.
If im fighting the greatest evil in my mind and this doesn't play I ain't doin it
I agree with what the cat said, that Wonderland is damaged. Obviously Alice's mental struggle isn't over but at least she made peace with her past.
Do you know what Alice was like while she was insane at Rutledge Asylum?
perfect game+ perfect soundtrack= Best Game Ever
ur welcome:)i always thought that the queen was trying to help alice in her own twisted madness returns in that she made realize she was suppressing her memories of the fire.she even kinda lampshaded it at the end of the 1st game
@Aqua311 The last one make sense actually. The Red Queen in the book was actually quite nice at heart, even if she acted like a bossy schoolmarm. I can see the Queen of Hearts disposing of her in a coup (since the White chess pieces are still around)
Oh! So this is what Zeurel used for Black Ace's profile!
Who am I?
Off with her head!
@CinnabonChan Indeed. They always combine the two... but perhaps that's the thing. At the end of Looking Glass, Alice figured out the Red Queen was the cause of the mischief. When Alice went insane, the tyrannical Queen of Hearts merged with the Red Queen, becoming one and giving her dominion over the cards and red chess pieces, making her army big enough to conquer all of Wonderland. It's also possible the Queen of Hearts had the original Red Queen executed and took her crown.
At least it seems tranquil, so she's calm.
la musica de american mcgees alice son simplemente maravillosos, no hay sountrack malo
Anyone else hear the Red Queen roaring near the end of the song? O_o
No it wasn't :/
SomaSaysMeep I do
It sounds like the theme they used in that animated series from Hilda Netflix
in the episode where the Marra Spirit disappears by the campfire gathering.
The Alice wikia has a lot of good stuff there.
Ho my god this is so epic and sad !
Who is here in 2020?
THEY CAN NOT SURVIVE H E R E 👁👄👁
This game is fantastic.
I think the Super was just confused, or maybe Alice based her drawings off of something he recognized. Who knows?
You can find the letter in the literature section of the wikia.
Red queen of heartness
"OFF WITH HER HEAD!"
@shiiorri your right! i DO want cake!! D:
Make a remastered version to this, anyone?
it would be better a remake, with Madness Returns jogability would be a fucking masterpiece
I hear this music and all I feel is petrifying fear because of the woman who made my life a living hell in 2015.
Ok
Best one of all the Soundtracks~
Well at least it was intentional in this case, but everywhere else, the two queens always seem to get merged. The Tim Burton Alice didn't help things either.
yeah ive read a little of it not all.also i think madness had it in the extras section too.so ill check that tomorrow
I really hate how they always merge the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen together when aside from being queens who wear red, they have nothing in common with eachother (the Red Queen is actually rather nice, in a prickly, schoolmarmish sort of way)
You can read the casebook on the Alice wikia.
yeah i know.those r the only wikias i trust r the ones made for the game or show or what have you cuz there usually pretty accurate and there made by the people who created the game.plus they always have the backstory as well.any way i read it and the last entry which i guess is when she got out seemed like she(alice) wrote it
I'm trying to download this song somewhere, but I can't find this song anywhere. It's a must have on my list!
Sam Adkins If you want to download it in the computer you must download a program called Songr , when you have the program installed there is an option to put a link for download the song or a video from that link, you only must copy the link of this song ant it download it . If you want this song on a mobile phone you have to download two programs , tubemate and MP3 Video Converter, when you have both , you only must get in the program of Tubemate and is like youtube , the only thing you must do is look this song and when you clicked the video there must be on the top of the video a green arrow , when you clicked the arrow it will appear some options , click the last one and wait and then you must have the song ! I hope this helps you , sorry for my English (I'm from spain XD)
+Sam Adkins www.youtube-mp3.org
but thats the thing though.what her being so calm means she got worse and London and wonderland merging means she gone insane again?i like to think it means she got better but there also what the cat said too.he told her that we can never go back home again and idk if he means hounditch,her familys house or back to London itself bcuz shes insane again
@vfdsunny9 Yes but the other one was entitled correctly to the Official Soundtrack...Go look if you don't believe me...
This is the true battle music, but the other one was not named as a mistake on Athrix225's part...
And you see a man in a black lab coat and an otorhinolaryngologist's mirror on his head. He holds a long saw that seems to also act as a needle. The glowing blu liquid it holds is unknown to you but the evil glint in his eye brings shivers down your spine. Then, in a thick german accent, he whispers to you, "Ze only s'ing I can tell you about zis next procedure... it zat it vill be... excruciating."
huh true.she might try to take over again since alice`s mind may b in a fragile state if u think about what happened at the end of madness returns as alice`s condition geting worse becuz of what she experienced over the course of the game.
@dannihot Now complete it on Nightmare mode 10 more times and you can officially feel proud of yourself before Madness Returns... returns :D
oh im sorry:(i shoulda explained it a little better.alice is the one repressing her memories of the fire and the queen told to remember them and realize she knew who really did it and to make her(alice`s)survival mean something or else they(all of wonderland)were doomed.this is from madness returns btw
This sounds exactly like what I heard while battling ZALGO. 🙂
(Don't ask me how or why, I simply cannot tell you)
no i didnt see that.what did it say?also the head,the superintendent he seemed really weird too.like he knew something.and then his nephews just so happen too torment her a few days later
Alice from Disney isn't Alice. American Mcgee's Alice is Alice
I guess you could say Disney Alice is the wrong Alice? XD
It's absolutely Alice. I'd know him anywhere! X3
omg I love the music...its creepy.....I wish I owned the soundtrack and the game.
'nO TrEspAssErS aLLowEd'
2020.Who are here
@MetalXXGod The Red King has always been a chess piece. The same way the Red Queen has. But idk about the Queen of Hearts...she kinda freaking the shit outta me.
@Dragoncore7 I do wonder...since when did the Red Queen have tentacles? o.O
i want this game..
yeah maybe but theres still the fact that his nephews tormented her.maybe he knew bumby?i mean its possible
@98animefan Uuuum, since the Red King turned into a chess piece? :D
wait. this was 7 yrs ago. this is not for Mare Barrow. Oopsie.
Thank you. :)
There's a little more to it than that. Have you read Dr. Wilson's casebook?
Go alice!👊
nicely put :)
@BlueJackG I hate when game soundtracks don't include all the music.
I'm kinda confused, mostly by the way you're talking. Who did you say was suppressing the memories of the fire? The Queen or Alice? I just want to get what you're saying.
nope.the copy i have didnt come with the casebook
I can answer that actually. In this game, the Queen of Hearts murdered the Red Queen and took her place if I remember correctly. You never see the Red Queen ingame, unlike the White Queen. Makes sense, considering the Red Army seem almost demonic really.
Apparently the two merge in one entity
@KonVeger that's Scheemic, My Boss
Off with her Head
Yeah that part did kinda confuse me a bit. Did you also read the letter Wilson wrote to a friend of his?
oh,guess i`ll go look it up then
@rococoness But it's SO fitting.! :0
No, Madness only had a small percentage of it. There's more.
I want this game like a fat kid wants cake D:
This is the killer.
me asusta pero me gusta
rayos que buen soundtrack
me alegro por los chavoz de rogue pero espero que el alice madnes tenga unos sounds muy buenos
sigo al conejo
you cant find this game anywhere for ps3 and don't really wanna play on pc :(
ALL HAIL SCHEEMIC!!!!
q genial cancion wooooow
Not in American McGee's Alice.
It's ALL Gone to Hell. XD
is that what happened? i don't remember that being said, like, anywhere. lol. n__n
@vfdsunny9 I'm glad I helpd then, np
Woah! Just found out that Alice was made by EA Games ( well I'm a moron!)! That explains why theirs an outfit of Alice that your character can where in MySims! (Stupid me!)
Any one Know where I can Download this?
I need it for a cosplay.
This fame was made in year 2000 and Tim burton said that movie would be like this verson. Well.. That is not
my disk broke for alice... im so sad :(
a game that i cant play due to its atmosphere but i can play slender and fnaf all fine
That's because those games aren't actually all that scary; THIS is a scary game. A game with an atmosphere more terrifying than any jumpscare.
LordofFullmetal the alice games use to scare me when i was younger. but now i find there dark and scary atmosphere entertaining, and not even scary in the smallest amount. games with jump scares on the other hand terrify me greatly! i can handle the alice games, but not anything with a jump scare.
+supersonicfan1313 Really? You mustn't be a massive horror fan; people who are really into horror usually get desensitised to jump scares pretty quickly. You can usually tell when they're coming if you know horror well, and once you figure that out they lose their power.
+LordofFullmetal just because i don't like jump scares doesn't mean i'm not a big fan of the horror genre. while i admit its not my favorite, i still like it somewhat. i'm more of an action adventure fan.
supersonicfan1313 Hence sonic avatar
Yeah, I guess so.
BLACK ACE!!!!!!
@MoraCrab who
here*
this is supposed to be for Mare Barrow, right? I dont see it.
This reminds me of Queen Levana From The Lunar Chronicles
I thought the same too!
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