How risky is Piracy: Do cracks contain malware?
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if you pirate from the right places that are known to be safe you should never have a problem
nice joke, as if noone had malvare from popular and "safe" forums
@@user-jh9nw6bz6f all u need is csrin
@@user-jh9nw6bz6f From legit and trusted crack sites no one ever had malware, that is why they earned the name "legit" and "trusted" in the first place.
@@user-jh9nw6bz6f You don't know what you're talking about p1ss off kid
captain?
“The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work, It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.” -Gabe Newell, 2011
This is why r/piracy, Github piracy guides, media preservation, virtual machine and common sense are the only way to keep yourself safe while pirating, and for poor people from the third world country.
@@h..h And so piracy is the way~~
Sometimes piracy or at least cracking is needed because original product comes with so much anti-piracy stuff that legit use of this software/game is more pain than use of pirated version. For example if you need to be logged on and constantly online to use offline product.
Hey, last one makes it justifiable for me to pirate! Thank you, Jesus!
Like what
@@Anonymous-qb4vc like nothing
just kidding, there are topics about lost media files being saved by piracy so without them, there will be the second Library of Alexandria.
Plus, you just seem think Alex Hirsch (Creator of Gravity Falls) are looking for excuse to justify piracy when geo restrictions, censorships and banned shows exist.
As an old-school ex game cracker, and scene releaser, scene groups don't add malware... Shady sites do. If you just Google random downloads, you WILL have a bad time. Also; if the file has a password it's usually to protect it from antivirus detecting it as malware. Only trust respected groups and their distro channels - RIP Warez-BB.
Any recommended site for a begginer?
@@mradamdavies the best way is a full format of the hard drive
What you think about cpy skidrow?
@@mireeebaaa7691 CPY and SKIDROW are two different groups. CPY goes back to 1999, SKIDROW goes way back to 1990. Both are very much trusted scene releases :)
I think that the video would be even more interesting if you analyzed cracks from known sources. People who know how pirating works would never download that Norton crack, for example. The real and potentiable harm behind piracy is trusting a cracker, and I would love to see a second part of this video investigating "safe piracy" in depth.
It was a sponsored video so he probably made sure it was a softball video to make.
Ey, you seem like a expert on cracking. I used to always crack games when I was little, but filled computers with viruses. Is SteamUnlocked safe?
@Raiyan yes and is no longer recommended from r/piratedgames subreddit
@@M3K1E who are they to suggest anything? reddit is nothing but fricking braindead basement dwellers' community
If he proved that piracy from certain websites is safe his channel would go down for promoting piracy lol
A friend of a friend said that when it comes to cracks, using a bit of common sense goes a long way, along with sourcing said cracks from more reputable sites. Googling for the crack and clicking random links is definitely not the way to go...
So there is no way of defending yourself from malware, other than trust?
@@overlord3481 Trust, common sense and extensive protection on your system. You need at least two of the three. Because a solid protection that's more than just freeware stuff can be too expensive if you're resorting pirating in the first place.
@@overlord3481 well when you take the unintended route you get the unintended stuff
an antivirus@@overlord3481
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Unfortunately without having access to the source code, that's how it works for any program, even ones like Microsoft Edge.
Is especially troublesome because things like game trainers (cheat programs) and cracks do similar things to what viruses do but in a good way.
The safest way I've learned is to just not buy games from places with DRM. It sucks being limited, but I never have to crack legally purchased games again.
The game companies invented the best anti-piracy solution. Releasing buggy unfinished games that forces user to constantly update the game. These game updates in 99% cases disables working crack. In past it was not big deal, there were 3-4 small major patches over lifetime of game, but now? You install 50 GB new game and after first launch you are waiting for download of 100 GB zero-day update.
In theory yes in practice it keeps me from buying new games.
Why waste time on half finished games that run poorly?
@@clmBerserker pretty much, I end up playing and even paying occassionally for older games because I don't have the space or patience to play half baked games
also unfortunate to say but denuvo is seemingly getting properly more and more resistant. it's held off popular games for a very long time. Even if it's still simple enough to crack, it deteres crackers for a long time to make the anti pirating methods effective in getting people to buy the game instead
@@cate01a That may be true, but what I read is that many games patch out the software a few months after it gets cracked, because of how many issues the software creates.
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What about them?
What exacly are you asking?
You cant just say what about x, without clarifying so that it makes x small enough to actuall be a question someone can answare. What the hell are we suppose to gather from this?
Browse the pirating community and search up who is reputable at any given moment. Torrent from them and hope all goes well. This is about the extent of being "safe".
You are not safe by using M$ Windows to start with.
@@repairman2be250 windows os isnt safe? why?
@@h..h I know people who have had their iPhone hacked, even iPhones can be hacked and there are many unknown vulnerabilities in every os
Bro you life under a rock?
@@xCDF-pt8kj Your ytube name sounds like a crack that contains some nastiness.
The first red flag is when the EXE you clicked disappears.
If you can easily find it on a search engine its probably not safe.
most of the times it's the 3rd or 4th and anything below that that are malicious
@@darkreddust2135 you have not been hit by the Msi afterburner ( VLC) ad scam. where it directed you to a malware version of the program.
as well if you couldn't
I play around with them on a VM and I would estimate than less than 10% of them I have tried did not have some type of malware in them.
@@rubenlungu5763 I don't even trust Google search results.
Better to just enter the URLs you know directly.
Who can really differ "a" from "а"?
I certainly can't (the second one is the Cyrillic version and is considered a different character, people can use this to create look-alikes).
Doesn't help that Google replaces the URL as soon as you right-click it to copy it out and analyze it.
I've actually seen cases in which I clicked on one of these ad-farm sites on Google, because they copied news text from a different website for the crawler.
And they managed to be ranked in like 6th or 7th place with that.
Pirates/Piracy groups have a codex they follow. If you get stuff made by them it's pretty safe. Antivirus may be triggered by crack because it's modifying memory (which some viruses did/do)
Fitgirl, Dodi, Empress.... Goldberg... Legends 💯✅
@@punisher427 Empress GOAT
@@punisher427 and of all these names only Fitgirl actually has a public website that's safe to use....
I only knew Oldcodex. Thanks.
@@punisher427 agfy
Hi Leo, could you please do a video on how safe VM’s are at keeping malware contained? Thanks :)
that is an interesting topic
Most malware can't escape VM environment so it's much more secure that if to just run it on bare metal.
Most malware - but not all ;-)
Theoretically they are very safe and is the correct way to test apps but more recently developers of a malicious application could just write a few bits of code to detect if the system is a virtual environment or not and if it is a virtual environment they could program their application to do nothing or act normal and then when you run it on your main system it knows it’s not in a virtual environment anymore and executes its malicious payload. Best to have an isolated test system on an isolated network, test the file, run it a few time do a few restarts and if everything seems normal a few hours later it SHOULD be safe👀
Vm escape is the holy grail for malware authors. Thus software developers keep it patched and secure regularly. However as an another commenter noted, malware can be written to detect if its on a VM or not and act accordingly.
@@GigawattGarage Isn't there a way to masquerade the virtual environment as the main system in order to be able to see whether it's really a virus or not?
“File password” is an immediate red flag for me.
My theory on this is it’s in an encrypted ZIP to avoid detection by AV programs.
you're not wrong but I wouldn't call it a red flag, even "legit" cracks/activators tends to be flagged by AVs
File password is to prevent online file hosts from being able to check the data. Technically you can do search queries to search for combinations of files to find copyrighted software. Adding a password means there's no way for these automated sniffers to flag suspicious potential piracy.
why password is a redflag? meanwhile just run this AUTOEXTRACTING EXECUTABLE
cheers :)
your best bet is to scan the contents through virustotal and evaluate the results (if it's either completely clean or you only get generic/crack detections, it should be fine)
@@TorutheRedFox and dont give a crap about the number of engines detecting something. check for the big players. check what sophos or eset's engine detects. if they file alert, its probably one.
or atleast its reasonable why it was detected.
its beyony my understanding how the process in the video wasnt flagged by every major engine. the process autoextracted itself and masked itself as eventvwr. any good behavioral engine should be able to detect that
Problem with scanning cracks as well is multiple AVs actually detect the cracking tools/dlls and such as malware even though they are just cracking tools. General concensus is they're paid off to add those things to the detections but it does make it much harder to check cracks for malware.
Funny enough, in a lot of pirate sites, the site itself isn't the risk, it's the ads that are there. And more often than not you can tell which is the download button and which is the fake one, by seeing if the button matches the ui/website style, does it have a small little "x" and "i" in the top right corner, the resolution or image quality of the download button, and how the button is animated.
But rule of thumb, is NEVER trust a piracy site that doesn't show ads, nor an option to donate, nor a means of gaining funds, and never let it download an exe to download a game instead of the game files, those likely are to be very dangerous.
Why bro exe is virus or what
Why are you not using AdBlock if you're already pirating stuff? Tf
Most veteran crack finders know that it's all based on word of mouth.
Cracks need to sometimes have things that may seem like viruses, to actually crack the app.
Therefore it's all word of mouth to find the right ones. I've managed to find my favorite ones and have sticked with them, no issues at all with them.
Randomly searching up cracks is where the major issues lies sadly.
@Darling what are they?
@Darling alright thanks bro
what’s your recommendations?
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@@balls5262 what is it
Really depends on what site you use for piracy
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 no the fuck its not
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 yesn't
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 definitely not
@@Chillacee which is a good one
@@darkleader2056 fit girl repacks site Just that url others are fake sites
This is NOT how must people go about this, as someone who needed to crack some stuff/games when I was younger, I'm telling you, the scene people you can trust, if one of them seem shady, they get removed from 'the scene', and that has happened before.
Games are usually safe, it's software/tools like daw's, antivirus, video editing, rescaling, etc...
That are targeted the most.
yes, i tried to install a video editing software and got virus, but i never got with games.
So true
I was able to get virus free cracked zbrush and substance painter but i cant get myself to update those
As with everything, you just need to find the right sources. I've downloaded a lot of tool software in the past, all from a certain site, and never had any issues
@@pygmalion8952 did you get those from getinto pc?
@@mvh7762 a friend wanta DavinciResolve Studio, but man it is to pricy
I loved the humor and the nostalgia...
Great vid :)
Also: I won't tell the cops you googled cracks for a 20+ year old game... for educational purposes...
He has the disc so hes fine.
AV vendors get paid to classify pirated software as malware. The goal is to have users not trust it either because their AV told them so, or because they cant tell from the noise and get infected. This is anti-security and I hate that.
That being said, some crack behavior is suspicious, and many cracks have packer/anti reverse engineer behavior for various reasons. There I have no problem that it is detected.
For running untrusted payloads, it would be important to use a HIPS like Comodo (I don't know of any other good one currently) on paranoid setting. Any suspicious action is detailed and can be blocked. If you see a crack "injecting into game.exe" that's fine. If you see it dropping files in system32 and injecting into explorer.exe, well, kill it. Not foolproof but if you want to do that stuff, that's how you secure yourself.
I stopped using cracked programs and games completely 11 years ago when I switched from Mac to Windows. I play few enough games that it's not a problem buying them, and I usually try to get them for free or on sale through Steam or Epic. For other stuff, well, there are so many free/open source alternatives out there, and the few that don't have good free alternatives I can often afford to buy. If not, I'll make do without.
For old games with DRM CD/DVD there is no choice but piracy witch sucks, because i just wanted to play C&C generals on my PC, the kapersky equivalent to virustotal has been helping with detections, their scan with virustotal scan should help with these cases.
Also a system scan after using or installing said pirated software is good to see how legit it is after checking it.
Same. The first time I tried getting C&C Generals on piratebay it gave my laptop tons of viruses to the point of HDD breaking and having to reinstall everything from the ground up (including OS).
Got a working copy on cs.rin soon after thanks to r/piracy
Mine are Counter Strike 1.6 and Arma 1 👀
They pay anti virus software to add cracking programs and dll's to show them as a virus / malware bro, that's why kms activation tools for windows show every single dll file as a virus / trojan / Malware / spyware etc., cause they're fine most of the time. Except u got a bad one. test it in a vm. Windows defender is absolute shit btw.
Just know what u're doing and u'll be fine, have backups so u can restore, or... Use Linux - best solution of all
I needed that kind of channel, thank you my good sir for your time
Man I was about to put my pc In a lab for a total reset after I downloaded something that I thought was legit (at 4am, half asleep),
and after watching your video I got Hitman Pro and it removed over 20 infected files from my PC and that one bs infected file I had from yesterday!
I use my computer to make music (which is my living) the pain I could go through just to reinstall everything is be just unimaginable
You a life saver! Thank you
I multiple times sent game "medicine" to ESET for analysis and all of them got removed from detections, because they were just doing what they said they would, no-cd bypass.
I always create a few restore points before downloading anything. I always analyze everything with virustotal and Kaspersky.
Anyways I have sometimes got infected (I think). 4 days after downloading a few games my controller didn't work. Or for example after downloading another one, the day later the Bluetooth tab instantly closed as I opened it. I had a restore point so no problem.
I love that stay informed stay secured at the end you helped me a lot thank you Much love my friend
you know what is even more dangerous? sports links like the ones shared to watch NBA games and Pay Per View content, i wish you do something similar with sports links to see how dangerous they really are ...
I'm a fan of your work 🙂✌🏾
3:35 Hello, can you explain what did you see in the Process Explorer window that indicated you your computer was infected? I didn't get it. Thanks a lot!
Need or speed hot pursuit 2 is super fun. I got it from a thrift store a while back and had a blast! Whenever a site has ad download buttons it is really suspicious.
Torrent seedboxes (that seed the torrent without user interaction) don't pay for themselves
Should've also mentioned Hybrid-Analysis. It allows you to upload an exe and run an automated scan like VirusTotal, but it also runs the exe in a sandboxed Windows environment and gives you clues specifically as to what the executable is doing that may be suspect. It's an easy way to gain some additional insight if you can't manually analyze a file locally!
Hi, PC Security Channel (or anyone else, haha).
There is this controversy regarding a recently released game called "Undecember" and so far the general issue is the fact that it installs 'nprotect' an anti-hack software that people in the forums are claiming to be a 'rootkit' that stays in the computer even after 'Undecember' has been uninstalled.
I feel that this particulary is related and could be of interest for the next topic to cover... and i'll be honest I am curious as to whether those commenters warnings/worries are valid. About whether this is something that people have to be concerned about as it becomes a standard practice by "gaming" companies.
actually an interesting topic, i've noticed people are starting to call out weird Anti-cheats and software being bundled in games alot more frequently.
hey man, what do you think about secure boot? do you think it helps with some types of malware or is just a gimmick? can you test something like that?
Secure Boot without extending it to user-run applications is a joke (Most malware aren't rootkits).
That's why Windows 11 requires a TPM so they can potentially extend it to only trusted applications (so that the entire system is protected).
It's also why I won't install Windows 11.
I don't want Microsoft to dictate what application is able to run on my system and I don't want to be judged by online games for not having the super mega safe mode active.
It's already a thing with Valorant and it sucks.
Piracy is the only true form of archival and freedom from restrictive and malicious DRM that tracks every keystroke you make and slows the performance of your legally bought copy. Staying safe with piracy is basic computer literacy.
Couldn't agree more ❤
Yeah, they are asking for it lately.
Hi Thanks for a Great video, Is there an alternative to acronis, i think 35 dollars a year is not bad, but wondered if there's a free alternative ??? thanks
What I don't understand is that when I work with Google Ads they are SUPER picky with the ads I submit, but then you enter a shady website with ads from the Google Display Network and they are scummy, clickbaity and shady trash; IT'S SO FRUSTRATING.
They just pay more
Regardless of one's opinion on copyright law, it's like asking a cop if your weed is poisoned.
Piracy is very risky in reality. You need to be able to spot the difference between a fake and a real crack and have a solid AV as a last defence.
@@-Blue-_ Aside from that, the forum that do the cracking with download link is generally safe too.
also have a windows 7 vm with no network card for every cracked software
You can't have av
I downloaded thousands of hacked games in my life, but I never had an issue, and I don't even know what's a crack 😂😂😂
Thank you for interducing the hitman pro, it helped me remove a file i couldn't remove by other programs and after i run 3 times now no threads, the website to scan the crack files was a nice edition thank you bro
windows defender didnt stop that trojan in its tracks? its pretty good. Do you reccomend opening the shady files in a virtual pc first, and find out if its no good there?
It's already a red flag when it says torrent but what you get is a direct download to an exe file.
and when theres a generic big massive button
@@cate01aI clicked that button and downloaded the exe file, and run it and got a virus
@@Czoy9good for you
Hey. The real sites with Cracks are always hidden by default on google, so all you see are just ads/malware. I know some trusted sites but always remember to use an antivirus + virustotal each file :>
What "extensive checks" do you do? Can you teach us how to do these checks so we can verify the files we download?
Please post more videos on safety issues with pirated software...
there could be only 1 advice, avoid piracy
which software would like to see in particular.
@@user-jh9nw6bz6f No.
@@hircine92h what else?
@@user-jh9nw6bz6f oo yes will you please transfer some millions who don't earn or to whom their parents didn't support in the gaming
Devious! They'll never suspect putting malware in a cracked anti-malware software!
we need a good technique to detect malware or something like that in games or apps
Learned this lesson the hard way.
youve gotta be an experienced pirater to know where to get your product. only times I've gotten nearly infected is when I lowered my guard.
can u help me out man
It would be cool if you demonstrated something that is obviously too good to be true that is packed with viruses. You know, something along the lines of "free robux" or something dumb like that. I am genuinely curious just how much damage this stuff can cause (if its not just straight up ransomware that is).
I'm thinking about online game cheats and map hacks. Most of their users are teenager and young adult, who's emotionally very mature.
People who pirate usually know where to get cracks and such, as a former pirate from used to be European pirate capital (Croatia) it's always the inexperianced bunch who get viruses, get scared for life and then connect it to that one experiance
I am not saying piracy is good, it's not... But it is annoying some people think you will get malware if you pirate from any site
If you know what you are doing then you should be okay
Great vid btw !
That’s like saying if you to Syria you shouldn’t worry about getting shot. The internet is a warzone
Do you take requests for files that show up as malware in virus total but is a likely false positive? I have a program i want to use but i wanted to check it. Its not piracy stuff either btw.
Could you do video on how to analyse this exe? I would be interested to learn. I mean running it on VM is just first step. But what if it's custom written malware that does not get detected and that does only a little activity while computer is idle?
Yeah ...
Most malware nowadays is just laying there dormant doing nothing. Until a specific time and date, then somehow it activating itself.
Check the processes tab for suspicious processes, and check the startup tab.
Check the temp folder and Windows folder.
Most malware if not all hides itself in C drive
Don't worry at all with these stuffs cause one and only Kaspersky the best av it allows these type of files very accurately and protection full on with its own best protection components like application control and manager and the best and advanced thing that's system watcher even I see Kaspersky is the only av who allows crack and free files to execute in your own PCs just awesome and insane by passing through these advanced components and tools.
Many thanks to the comments that say things like "if you look in good sources you won't have any problems" and proceed to not mention any "good sources".
r/piracy's wiki has some good resources. can't link here bc youtube would probably eat my comment for the link
r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH/wiki/games/
which av/firewall do you use personally?
A lot of apps that I have on my Galaxy Tab S7 and S22 Ultra are cracked pro/mod versions, and so far, I have been fine. I just make sure I click the right buttons and avoid sketchy links.
I've been pirating for years, never once have i encountered a virus.
thats what the viruses want you to think
You never know, viruses and miners can be very very sneaky
What sites are you using? and do you have Anti-virus turned on your computer?
@@haithamalsuaibe473 look up piracy subreddit, windows defender is enough
Before even try to pirate anything just ask your tech support friend, cause he already knows where to find things that you need to pirate.
Oh good to see you are also a car guy or atleast a NFS fan too
Thank you ! I don't crack warez, I have to crack games I legitimately own because DRM is so problematic that I can't even play my purchase.
Like when EA forced updated Sims 3 to need to always be online. I'm like why?
The best way is to never pay for software with DRM. Personally, I only give money for open source products, which are inherently DRM-free.
The irony of a cracked AV being malware.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
How does this work? Like, does the antivirus deletes its components afterwards? lol
I got scared so hard when Nvidia was hacked. I had cpu and gpu at 90% and I thought it was because of the games I downloaded. I got rid of them before hearing that it was an Nvidia attack xD. I managed to remove it by health checks, windows defender and Kaspersky and all the files that they removed came from different folders but all had Nvidia in the name
If you know which website to pirate the stuff from such, just like if I wanted to play an old game, I go through someplace like my abandonware which is mostly certified, and also gives out virus, free, cracks, or no cd patches, so it’s a mixed bag
Thanks... it's working... Good Job...!
Firstly, no one downloads from sites like you showed on video
true lol, only to those who have an atom sized brain.
Okay but how can I reverse engineer suspicious files to know if they're malicious or not? Where can I learn to do this ?
Youre gonna have a terrible time doing that, cause reverse engineering usually involves knowing Assembly (at least for games)
A hint to filter more for a "safe" search on pirating game. add "Repack" on your search. If you know, u know.
can you elaborate on diagnosing malware using process explorer?
large amount of svchost.exe processes?
thanks
Reddit's pirated games page and their megathread, all you need.
Are they safe?
@@zeqsonyea
@@malvin0arifin040 how do I download via reddit i have no idea???
Thanks to Steam pirated games is pretty much a history for me (baring, emulation). I am more concerned about how bad is Anime Stream sites are it's an incredible weakness of mine and I don't even feel secure while using Tor. I was very happy with the Tails system but new windows they say causes problems and I cannot dare to stick that usb to my new rig, it's not even 6 months old yet. I am thinking of buying a laptop just to use it with, tails to be as secure as a non-tech literate like me can be, but even the cheapest laptop is not so cheap and I have failed to install linux before, mostly my fault for buying a laptop with GTX card in it as if it was ever necessary. Sorry for rambling.
tails is absolutely safe and even overkill to watch your favourite streaming platforms
An adblocker is enough to be safe on pirated streaming sites, you're too paranoid
@@danialrafid yeah, more like u just need to know wat sites to visit and which ones to avoid
anime sites are the safest, they're some of the least malicious ive had way worse experience with other sites
What a good tutorial thanks!!
I learnt this lesson myself I broke so many devices because of download unsafe programs now that I stopped that behaviour my devices are healthy and still in decent condition. It's better to pay the original program than downloading free, unsafe installer.
lol get rekt newb
As a general rule, just torrent the most popular seeded releases from the most reputable sites.
You are talking about this, as if getting No-CD/DVD cracks (especially for old games) isn't required to play a lot of your legitimately acquired games.
Thanks a lot man!
I've been pirating games my whole life, and I never got a problem with viruses and such. You just have to know what you are doing, and you are safe.
Can you tell me a site. That would help a bunch
@@R.O.T.C._SEEMr/piratedgames megathread
please bro@@igorgaming1502
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You just need to know from who and where you download the pirated game.
Thats actually true and accurate.
just imagine i'm a malware developper and i put a if(date < 01/01/2030) waitAndRunGame(); else InstallAndExecuteMalware(); even the extended malware analysis won't be able to detect it i guess. Except if they check every assembly code which is impossible for a 400MB file.
i got 30 threats one time, no joking
and most of them said "very severe"
Best way to be safe around pirate software is to download it from a well rated and well know sources, but even that is not fool prof.
For example if your are in a certain bay you can look if the uploader has a Pink (thrusted) or Green (even more thrusted) skull. This indicates that the uploader that sourced the torr. is "trustworthy" and is well know on the community.
Another thing to watch for is the number peers (seeders and leachers). A torr. with a lot of activity is also more likely to be safe.
i have never cracked a game but hypothetically I have downloaded a lot of cracked software for games and otherwise and never experienced any virus, even with windows defender disabled (as it hypothetically sucks). so, i would say hypothetically it is fairly safe. (I pirate games all the time, hypothetically)
Hello i had a question , is the photoshop crack on the website fixthephoto safe ? cuz i downloaded it ( not totally i instantly canceled but yk ) hope youll reply
You always seem to come back to Hitman Pro - is this consider a better choice than things like Bitdefender or Malwarebytes, or is it a different type of tool?
@Ray
I realize that, but the AVs are also scanners. I was only wondering why HitmanPro seem to be the one we come back to every time, even as a tool to check how well other software is doing.
If HitmanPro's scanner is average or not that great, it seems arbitrary to use it to check how well AV software is doing.
What is so special about HitmanPro is what I am wondering.
I have a computer where trojan powershell (generic) keeps popping up on Malwarebytes. I clean ut with that, but a few days later they're back - plural.
HitMan Pro never finds them.
are they false positives om MWB? Perhaps, but then that is why I am wondering .. Why are trusting Hitman Pro so much?
Thank you, though.
@Ray
I understand the thinking. That doesn't tell me if this is the case with Hitman Pro though. It isn't a given that because a company doesn't have to work on removing malware (which Hitman Pro does, by the way), that their detections abilities are better.
One does not explain the other here. - It doesn't logically follow that one automatically get better at detection if one doesn't have to concentrate on removal.
Besides, some of these AV companies, like Kaspersky, Bitdefender, Norton, are relative large companies with a good amount of people working on these very things, detection AND removal.
But thank you for answering. I haven't really gotten any real answer as to why Hitman Pro is the one we keep going back to, if there are any numbers out there showing it getrs better results than other software, but I understand you trust it. ;)
In your opinion - why do so many AVs false alert keygens and cracks as Trojans?
Because of HOW they do their job. It's very looks like a Trojan (they are modifying executable or one of it's DLLs, hunt for specific keys in the Registry or do other "suspicious activities").
They don't false alert, you can look at it and check that it says its a "keygen" or "Not-a-virus" but still blocked.
As he said, its not worth it for them to check if some illegal program is safe or not, you shouldn't open or download it in the first place.
Both malware, and cracks work in a similar manner, most DRM is smart enough to tell if it's been compromised, if so it will crash/break the game in bizarre ways. Most cracks do not fully remove the DRM, simply bypass it, the methods used to bypass is frequently combined with obfuscation. Malware will attempt to obfuscate itself from the security solution, cracks will attempt to obfuscate itself from DRM.
Even if they successfully crack a software it doesn't mean it's over, while there are many forms of DRM most advanced DRM will actively check it's integrity. If the DRM believes it's been compromised it can break the software. Many ways of doing this, it can appear the crack wasn't successful, or something else is wrong, mostly a last line of defense. The goal is to than alter the crack, via obfuscation so the DRM doesn't detect it's been compromised, so it will allow the software to run properly as intended.
Often times false alerts/flags doesn't mean bad software, it just means a lot of shady actions, or actions typically used by malware to hide itself. Since they can both act the same they both get the same type of responses.
Most of them act in similar ways too real malware.
Kaspersky is great when it comes to this. I previously had Bitdefender which was so annoying it kept giving false flags but Kaspersky doesn't, at the very least not as often.
It bugs the hell out of me how often the word "virus" is used incorrectly.
I just call it malware. When I think of virus I think of disease.
Can you do a full non biased review of acronis?
If only there was a Steam for software, I deplore software companies that require either a subscription from you, or a always connected to check the license data, ridicules.
Also Adobe not so legal copy actually runs faster, all the cloud bloat and the horrible activation processes are not running constantly 24/7 in the background.
I'd say game crackers are a lot more truthful and forthcoming with what they do. "Here's a crack, go play the game".
Antivirus, OS, and most subscription software cracks however... are 99% malware.
Windows is Spyware and adware at this point, meanwhile a pirate game is way better optimized and well coded than official stuff.
Fitgirl repack ;)
the thing is while they can't prevent piracy with it a lot of these companies are able to produce their own cracks that contain malware bitcoin mining viruses trackers etc.. and do from time to time and mix them in with the generic libraries. the only way to track this is upload dates and things like that. these profile a certain way obvious to people who know what they are looking for. eventually they are identified and removed from the pirate libraries, but like the rest of it no one is paying these people to do that so it can take a while.
It's sad to see my comment being deleted , really liked your content . Can't comprehend what led to such action .
What about FirGirl Repacks? Does it have a virus in it?
it does not. If you only download in the real site
a lot of them are safe, but Windows Defender will sure try to convince you otherwise
It depends. I usually trust my antivirus (bitdefender) on cracked software. If it detects something I'm out. I don't disable it like what the readme says. I only install if my antivirus doesn't detect anything but I still do a system wide scan to be safe
its theoretically possible but exercising some tech literacy and healthy skepticism should mitigate those risks
When I was younger I would always pirate games on my family's pc (it's 13 years old and still working fine btw).
But after I bought my own I'm 100% against piracy haha.
Now just to clarify the pc that belongs to my family never had a problem related to malware as the only game I actually went through with the whole process was The Sims, and they've never put any personal information on it so that's why I'm not worried about their data whatsoever.
But now that I have my own personal computer, the one that has my credit card information on and a lot of other stuff, I always ask myself, would it be worth pirating and potentially giving all my info away? So now instead of pirating a game I just save and buy it, or if it's very expensive I just watch a playthrough on youtube lol
lol same as me, I work with programming, and I dont want my credentials to be stealed by hackers
I am too broke to buy games, but will be getting a side job soon, and tbh same, how expansive can I game be? like $100 at most?
Can you do another test with Windows Defender? It's always very entertaining :)
Hey just a question , would blocking software from connecting to the internet help with the chance of malware or data being siphoned out?
I download games from a certain Girl who is Fit.
Our saviour the fittest girl to ever exist
That's why I don't pirate my security software. Also, there are more reliable cracker groups out there.