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Ur video doesn't have sound in it I can't hear it for some reason and it's not TH-cam because I already tested it out it the video.just a small thing though.
You're wrong about something very elementary: the Mugetsu literally erased all of Aizen, it's just the Hogyuku literally brought him back to life, just like it did with Gin's bankai. Both literally killed him, but if you read/watch, it shows Aizen being completely disintegrated by Mugetsu. He's literally unkillable. That's just in the FKT Arc. He somehow becomes more unkillable, which literally makes zero fuckin sense, in the Eos. He was absorbed by the Almighty and erased from all timelines but was still there at the end. Aizen is completely fuckin broken, which is why I think Kubo has spent so much time trying to come up with a villain for the Hell Arc. It can't be Aizen, the nigga is fuckin the definition of brokenly OP.
Remember ichigo still in high school during the tybw event. Just imagine how strong he would be when he reach mid 20 or early 30.
@Josh-ox6nu 29.. its 2 years after the final chapter which was 10 years after the tybw
Bro just gets carried by plot like almost every shounen protagonists
@@Knight2_5 every character that isnt dead gets "carried by the plot" Ichigo's has lost just as much if not more than he's won...ppl just dont like his powerset
@@mikecash2384 don't get me wrong I like ichigo , he is my best protagonist in the big3 and one of my best shounen protagonist but he's carried by plot most times
@@Knight2_5 explain how plot doesnt carry any character.. yall be saying that as if it means something.. EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING is carried by the plot.. ANYTHING that happens in the story is "plot"... yall gotta do better
Yhwach is so OP even Kubo didnt have idea how to end the fight and just create PLOT ARROW😂
Would be interesting to see Yhwach win
That’s because he basically made a mangaka character (ichibei) and then needed to create this OP bs to beat it.
And on top of the Arrow bs, he gets reverted by antithesis while having the skill to revert and be immune to any skill he knows???
The only thing I thought it was fair was kyoka suigetsu working since it was used before almighty activated and it’s a visual trick against a “visual” hax.
Tsukishima was also alright.
the biggest issue is having more reiatsu than anyone else should make ywach immune to everyone and he absorbed most of the soul kings reitasu. but from what ive seen reiatsu canceling hax is no long a thing in tybw@@felipechaves6100
Uryu was stated somewhere to be unable to be seen by Yhwach
The biggest advantage Yhwach has going for him n the case of facing anybody that can seal/negate his powers is that he has already shown the ability to just grant himself those powers again. Having everything taken from him, even the concept of his own name, which makes him physically and spiritually no stronger than an ant, he just says "nope" and keeps on trucking like nothing happened.
So, it's hard for me to see why GER would be any different. Yhwach could just reset anything that GER did to him and then, he'd use the Almighty to prevent Giorno from using it again because the Almighty not only allows Yhwach to see the future but also become immune to the abilities he sees in that future. I'm not super familiar with JoJo, so I can' really say for a fact that Giorno loses, but my basic foray into his abilities didn't show me anything to convince me he was capable of overcoming that. The best I can see is that GER reduces will to zero as well, meaning it's possible that Yhwach wouldn't want to reclaim his strength... though then that just becomes a debate on whom activates first because, assuming the prior statement is true, each ability counters the other.
It's better than that. Yhwach can become immune to the abilities JUST by seeing the future or even potential futures, so even if the ability itself would shut yhwach down or maybe even counter-act the almighty and would work in the present time, the future hasn't yet happened and the potentialities don't apply.
@@wewuzkangz2505 don't even forget that GER is a causal relationship. That means that A - Antithesis actually serves as a natural counter, since (A)ntithesis breaks causality and forces the result onto the opponent. GER may wind up trapping Giorno in his own ability, causing him to endlessly trap *himself* in a loop designed to defeat himself. [10:15] As outlined by Jaq, GER actually was reverting Time Skip, not causing some hyperversal hack. Return to Zero works on a specific effect, so (A)ntithesis would snap the chain, and cause Giorno to likely revert his own GER to not existing.
Well, Giorno can prevent/reset what happens in the future like how he reverted Diavolo's punch which would happen in the future. So, I think it would be like a stalemate/paradox. Giorno can prevent Yhwach seeing into the fututr
@@tropicalgamer6106 He can't, Yhwach can passively shut down any ability that would counter the almighty or better yet steal it. It happens through the future, and is both a passive and an active ability.
Yhwach is also orders of magnitude stronger than Giorno, we're talking about a large building-level character vs a multi-universal buster. It's highly likely that Giorno simply disintegrates in Yhwach's mere presence, Aizen who was far weaker than Yhwach could kill regular shinigami by just existing, and it all comes down to reiatsu difference. It's essentially instant soul erasure that happens passively to any being weaker than the user.
@@wewuzkangz2505 What If Giorno can counter the passive counter? Even if it happens in future, what if Giorno just reverts it at the instant it is activated?
This is a really good lowball scale for yhwach
Yup, just a low ball scale 👍
You forgot to mention the other power of the Almighty that Yhwach revealed when he activated it, "he can negate the powers he "sees" making them take his side and be unable to harm him"
So if he see Kamehameha it won't dl anything 💀
This is something I have always been saying. People just think the almighty can see and alter the future when this other part of it exists and is arguably as busted as any of the other powers in the series by itself
yes exactly@@Ali_kumalalakumalala
@@yekwubbels1155 so he can negate ki then tf can goku do
@@Ali_kumalalakumalala nah, this is an anti hack hack, I don’t think it is supposed to negate physical powers unless you count reviving as that.
You forgot the fact that ywache can gain the abilitys that he gave out back, meaning that he has the powers of all the stern ritters.
So he can:
Make his imagination come true
Attack your nerves and create unimaginable fear
Become stronger and larger every time you take damage, and it works even after turning into dust
Become stronger from cheers, and also a mortal cheer leader cheering for you
Ability to redirect fortune and misfortune, so you almost kill him, he redirect the misfortune to you, your almost dead. Think d4c lovey train on steroids.
Ability of X axis, which allows you to shoot at something and everything in between disappears. No matter what. So if I shoot at the tree behind you, than everything in between, including you, will have a hole in it.
Light manipulation, regeneration
Make anyone you touch fall in love with you and obey your every command
Make anyone zombies and obey your command
Make anything explode
Turn anything into a lethal dose of poison, even your own blood. It doesn't matter if the guy is imune to poison, it is a lethal dose, meaning you will just die when the ability is affectinve
I could literally go on for hours about all of ywaches abilitys, but ywache is basically composite bleach
Incorrect. He cant take back the schrifts. Bazz B after yhwach used auswählen still was able to his schrift against jugram. Or Bambi would be fully dead by the time in CYFOW because giselles schrift wouldnt work anymore.
And GER can nullify all of this + The Almighty, your point?
@@BaklavaBOY-lr3jwit can't work against the miracle
@@Regulus-uu7pb it can because it nullifies causality. the miracle is just probability manipulation which is an entire order of magnitude less than causality. GER can even reset concepts like willpower to zero. so all he does is reset the probability once the miracle alters it and then it never happens. better yet he can remove the causal relationship between gerards birth and gerards current existence and just eliminiate him from the timeline, thats just the basic application of causal erasure.
RTZ affects events that happen directly towards Giorno, reverting their actions to never happening. It's genuinely a watered down version of the Almighty. Whereas GER reverts any action it observes, Yhwach sees an action and has an infinite number of results for that action to end in. Beyond that, Yhwach is nigh immortal. I doubt Giorno could put him down, and even if GER has infinite stamina, it can not revert certain actions, and I imagine Yhwach could come up with a way to bypass it.
The one thing i do not agree with when it comes to Soul society ichigo's speed is that he is lightning. The databook statement says lightning but in the manga he is shown perception blitzing three lieutenants in his shikai state. Even if you say Ōmaeda and Isane aren't relative to Rangiku and Shuhei in terms of reaction time, Chojiro is and Ichigo blitzes him along with Ōmaeda and Isane. Rangiku and Shuhei are shown reacting to the negacion in base and since Chojiro is relative to them it would make him have light speed reaction time bare minimum. However Ichigo completely perception blitzes him so... i don't exactly see how lightning works for bankai ichigo when shikai ichigo is 10x weaker/slower than him and is able to perception blitz people who should be able to react to light.
Still a solid video just pointing out something i had an issue with that was said.
the databook uses Lightning as a simile... "Like lightning, Ichigo moves around the battlefield with Godlike speed"
I think Omaeda is as fast if not faster than the lieutenants that dodged the hollow thing, since he’s from the stealth force and showed crazy speed feats in the show before. You can’t be a stealth force commander and not be super fast.
ceros are light speed and Ichigo was dodging them ages ago, vasto lorde was mftl+ and in tybw everyone is above that
Yhwach sees Giorno bring out GER then rewrites the timeline where DIO never existed or Giorno didn't survive the events of Part 5. This is actually straight up Hydrogen Bomb vs. Coughing Baby.
Yhuwach couldn't change the timeline when Ichigo killed him
@@bettyoppong1643Ichigo's Bankai is fate defying
@@bettyoppong1643 Idiot guy Ichigo has fate negation.
@@bettyoppong1643 the silver arrow made with the silver of dead Quincy from the rain move (forgor the name ) deactivated his ability for a second
im pretty sure almighty doesnt work on past events only future
I think return to zero wouldnot counter allmighty since it doesnot directly affect giorno at all. If giorno could return to zero any ability that affects him indirectly then he would be able to stop made in heaven universal reset.
yeah its not hurting giorno in any way if it did hurt giorno GER can indeed reset it to 0 but up to this point im still fucking confused on how Almighty works
@@kaoru6977 yeah it aint but the thing is almighty sees and can change the future at his will. So allmighty could just see ger and what its ability is and then change the future to where ger is deactivated or smth
@@ayushmanandhar2556 ohh Ok so thats how Yhwach wins but what if he attacked Giorno With Ger will yhwach be sent to Death loop? would he be trapped he would just cancel it out.
@@kaoru6977 yeah it could go either way these vs battles are mostly decided by who have a superior stat in a certain criteria. For example, here yhwach allmighty can somehwat counter ger so he has a higher chsnce if winning
@@ayushmanandhar2556 ohh Ok thanks Well if yhwach attacked giorno without a plan ger would work on him right? so does that mean yhwach should defeat giorno without Engaging in combat?
And with yhwach being said to be Ftl+ does he really have like inf speed? and to GER I get often confused with his speed people saying he got immeasurable speed, since he moved in erased time shit like that.
Sorry dude I ask too much but if thats ok to you could you explain some of that to me?
have a nice day.
The kyogoku stuff would make yhwach multi because there are multiple kyogoku inside of the garganta and the dangai is also shon to be bigger than multiple kyogokus as well
theres multiple dangai too
This can go way beyond if you scale the temporality of the dangai which has also been stated to be a hyperspace. Making it 4d at baseline with it having time folds over and over many times. Using this we can say that becuz time folds many times over in the dangai it has many time axes in it and this many at a baseline would be 5 in number as a general thumb rule. So by scaling the temporality of the dangai it goes to 9d and the garganta becomes 10d as it's infinitely bigger than the dangai and contains it. Yhwach destroying the garganta makes him 11d as he would restructure the entire cosmology to the primordial world which has a completely different structure hence a different time axis than the one of the garganta.
Also anyone being able to travel through the garganta gets immeasurable speed as they are moving through multiple time axes hence moving beyond just one time axis.
@@rexr9781massive w
@@rexr9781 yep
@@rexr9781 Holy. Is that even a possible scale for Yhwach? That is baffling.
Can You Do Sephiroth vs Aizen.
Oooouuu, this will be very very good
Pls
He should do this
Ooohh damn sooooo nice machup,just thinking rn I would said Aizen should take most of the wins against AC Sephiroth but against the remake one that is still very mysterious I dont know
Just talking about their big trump card abilities alone (The Almighty and Return to Zero), someone can roughly say that both their powers essentially work as a “yeah no lol” to anyone else’s abilities. The difference between them is that The Almighty is essentially just an much more refined and versatile version of Return to Zero that the user is actively aware of and knows how to use it very specifically.
In other words, Return to Zero is like the ability to just kill anyone you want but you have no specific way to specify how you want that person to die since that’s being decided by an third party that goes off what you subconsciously want. While the The Almighty is just the death note - full control of how people die, when they die, and what they do before they die.
Technically, the two abilities alone without their character feats could get in an loop of power nullifying each other. But The Almighty has alot more ways we know of (in comparison to Return to Zero) to get out of said loop or stop it from happening altogether, like destroying the arrow before the user can pierce themselves with it for example.
Yhwach can control specific aspects, but RTZ is superior in terms of hax. Though it lacks precision, it can nullify causality and return any cause to a state of having not happened. This is because he nullified King Crimson, and you can't reverse time that is erased. Thus he can nullify the Almighty and it's effects while lacking precision. RTZ supersedes time manipulation, so.
@@BaklavaBOY-lr3jwyhwach can shut down all timelines if none of it favours him thus leading to blowing up of foes in present time or resulting to serious damage and then creating a new one
@@Haxtryagain Causality manipulation >>> Future manipulation & precognition. Very simple.
isn't yhwach legit immune to any Hax that revolves around conceptuality?, remember, everything he sees in the future, and if he understand that thing, it becomes his, the powers used against Yhwach will have no effect because yhwach chooses a fate where those haxes simply don't work and are his friends(explaneid when he fought ichibei), you can argue that Ger is beyond time, but yhwach is literally beyond destiny, beyond fate, due to the fact he doesn't see the future(predicts it) he sees into countless possible futures, and even impossible ones(those where he die), it doesn't matter what hax you have, unless it is a hax that legit rewrites the past, or a hax that hasn't been seen by yhwach, besides that, the only way you can harm yhwach is with sheer spiritual energy attacks.
Yhwach has already seen GER and altered the future.
*fate manipulation* this is the ALMIGHTY
I dont really understand how someone can say that yhwatch wins without even knowing all the info about ger and even if yhwatch strikes giorno he will just return to zero abusing this power infinetly until he touches yhwatch with the infinite death
The Almighty is just way too broken
The concept is written to never be unwritten. Not unless u can find a b.s weakness -cough cough- silver particles
@@wizels1403 tbf the arrow is always better than giving ichigo a random buff so that he beats the almighty
At least the almighty remained unbeaten
I don’t really see why we can’t say the Bleach realms are Universal I think it should just be standard assumptions same reason why we assume the planets fictional characters reside in are the same size as the planet we live in unless evidence shows otherwise this should apply for the universe. Plus there is evidence that might suggest that the realms maybe 4D if not higher end of 4D like Low Multiversal maybe.
5:33 exactly what I meant lol this should upscale the main realms by default lol.
Not rlly. The dangai can be 4D doesn’t mean all the realms are. Just because their multi galactic doesn’t mean their inherently universal either. Via battle assumptions it would just be multi galaxy not universal and low multi is absurd
fr, ss has an infinite dimension inside of it which should make it universal, hueco mundo and wotl are both equal in size to ss. Lets not forget about the garganta which encompasses the entirety of the cosmology which should make it 5D
@@Tempest1018 Well the thing is throughout the TYBW destroying the 3 main realms are considered to be a very major thing compared to just the dangai it’s basically hyped up more so then just the Dangai. So I think most likely if we just go off of what I said you could get the realms to 4D.
But that wasn’t really my original point I did add that since the Valley of Screams using your scans at 5:33 is said to be a hyperspace, so basically with that the other realms are 4D and to go in detail with it in the TYBW a map is made for the realms for the and these hyperspaces (Valley of Screams) on the chart looks way smaller then the main realms.
And as I said before we aren’t soo skeptical of the sizes of planets in other fictional verses we always assume that they are the same size as the planet earth unless new info comes thru I don’t see why we can’t do the same with universes.
Let these realms be universe sized unless stated otherwise. Tbh I think most times the author is placing they’re characters in a universe size dimension like ours, at the very least I don’t think they would say “Oh yeah my characters live in a multi-solar to multi galactic sized dimension.”
Most times authors say universe, I just don’t think it makes the most sense to say otherwise I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree
@@ningnings_randomworld idk about the Muken makes SS infinite stuff it’s stated in the manga it’s disconnected from the SS which would make sense since from what I’ve heard Muken is a Hell dimension in Buddhism something like that and with the most recent chapter of Bleach Hell is being touched upon.
But I think there are better ways to get SS to 4D especially if you agree about the Valley of Screams being 4D hyperspaces then technically it would make the main realms Low Multiversal since the TYBW a chart is shown of the realms SS, WOL, Dangai, and the Valley of Screams are shown, and the VOS look way smaller then the Dangai, WOL, and SS so take that as you will lol.
@@305thief8 i dont know about using the chart of the realms to classify them. The chart shows the dangai being smaller than the wotl and ss but that doesn't mean it scales to size, it is just a model after all
Also cant Yhwach use like all of the powers hes given to his sternritter like imagination, miracle etc?
@kingofassholes4348 ANd it get returned to him
No, thats just a fanmade theory, plus schrift like Miracle,Visionary,Compolusery and more dont come from Yhwach but from soul king parts,Gerard is soul kings heart,Gremmy is the brain, Pernida is the hand
and hes never shown to use any other schrift abilities besides his own meaning he doesnt have them
i havent watched the video yet but im assuming yhwach absolutely slams. Yhwach easily scales from 5D-6D and his hax are absloutely broken while giorno is like 4D (at most 5D) and thats only his hax, his ap is like building level and his speed is at most mftl
Ger isn’t 4D and yhwach isn’t 5D.
@@Tempest1018 well diavolo's ability affects the entire universe and ger was able to revert it so it should be at least 4D in hax imo. As for yhwach, he was going to collapse the entirety of the bleach cosmology including the garganta which i would argue is 5D considering that it hold multiple 4D realms inside of it
@@Tempest1018Yhwach is 5D
@@ningnings_randomworld a 3D box can hold. 3D object that doesn’t Mean its 4D…
@@Tempest1018 i suppose so, i dont really know too much about the garganta but ive heard many people say its a dimension above the dangai so it is 5D. I have to look more into that
Yhwach just goes "now we live in a future where YOU WERE ABORTED" EWWWW!!!!!! 🤣
so we're just gonna ignore how rtz is actually passive? lol
It’s passive only after activation which is at relativistic to light speed yhwach is Mftl+ so he can out speed ger re watch the vid
Yes cuz it doesn’t matter😭
@@Lord_himothy_the_third JoJo characters haven been light speed since part 2 or 3
@@Jsipki265bleach since ss arc
@@deathmark1940 I didn’t talk about bleach speed scaling
Would you say that a BASE Yhwach w/o the Almighty would scale above ALL forms of Aizen? Yhwach did say he could destroy him during their first meeting but he just did not have the time.
That's because Aizen literally cannot fight back. Kubo says he's still entirely sealed to the point where he cant even spirit crush like he can later in the arc when two of his seals are undone. It's basically base Yhwach just hitting a sitting duck with 1 billion hp.
We even see later than a fully realized Aizen is still able to affect a Yhwach with two of the greatest amps in the entire series. He's stronger than base Yhwach and arguably Almighty Yhwach
ah but Aizens power is still the same. the seals only seal the range Aizen is always at 100% of his power.. and Ywach was in range of Aizen their first meeting to be affected by Aizens power. Base ywach is a lot stronger than Aizen even without almighty. @@IchigoKurosaki911
@@raiden3013 No he's not. If he was still at 100% power then he would be able to activate kido or summon his sword but he can't he can only eminate SP around him to a certain extent. Yhwach is also caught in his power which is why his sense of time is affected in the first invasion.
the manga literally states Aizen is at full power all the seals do is keep his reiatsu near him. thats why when a guard got close to Aien his hand disintegrated because Aizens passive reaitsu is so high. Ywach was i range which is why Aizen could use Ks on him. @@IchigoKurosaki911
Oh yeah tempest I wanted to add one thing it’s the garganta feat when yhwach was destroying all the realms in bleach he was also destroying the garganta it is stated to be infinite in the cfyow novels could you look into it and add it as a feat?
Garganta is 5d at baseline and destroying it would be a 5d feat but becuz the way of yhwachs destruction is different as he was going to restructure the cosmology into the primordial it would make yhwachs destruction of it 6d as he would also destroy the time axis of the garganta.
If you want to scale the temporality of the dangai it becomes 9d making the garganta 10d and hence making yhwach 11d.
GER has beyond infinite speed. Slower stands like Notorious BIG and Made In Heaven have infinite speed stats, and GER’s stats are at ??? Which a guidebook said goes beyond the confines of stand stats
The fact that he was able to move in erased time is further evidence of this as even Pucci can’t move in stopped time (though he can perceive it)
And in stopped time, time still exists. With Diavolo’s ability, time temporarily doesn’t exist at all
Yhwach,Soul King, and Mimihagi's rietsu crossed the entirety of a 5-6d Hyperspace which is an immeasurable speed feat.
Yhwach performed the feat twice btw.
Also Tessia, whose speed is fodder in comparison to the God tiers, can move, and even teleport while within stopped time.
This guy is not too knowledgeable on Bleach canon feats and scaling so he ended up severely downplaying all of Bleachverse stats with his ignorance.
@@magnaz261) The feat you used is not even inf speed let alone immeasurable. Just because a realm is 5D to 6D doesn't mean travelling through it is immeasurable
2) moving in stop time doesn't scale anywhere and is just resistance hax that's all
@@Shad3-
It's the time frame in which you travel through it that determines whether it is an infinite or immeasurable speed feat.
We need to remember that there is a mere human behind almost every stand that cant see FTL or withstand something like Reiatsu or any weak explosions. While their stands are def OP they´re weaknest is guaranteed and it was even confirmed that literally every stand has a weakness
Tempest can you do Tatsumaki vs Mob from Mob Psycho (Tatsumaki negs) but I wanna see where you scale her personally 🥸🔥
Gotchu
I think I heard wrong but when you talked about yhwach scaling above kenpachi bankai (which I agree with) when is it shown he can beat any version of kenpachi like visually on screen besides when royd beat pre unohana fight kenpachi? unless you take like CFYOW statements into account which iirc just have statements that put yhwach above bankai kenpachi. But I dont know when yhwach was shown to beat bankai kenpachi?
Yhwach>ichigo>kenpachi
@@Tempest1018 yeah ichigo and zaraki are stated to be relative in cfyow and obviously yhwach was slapping around ichigo
@@Tempest1018ah I thought you were saying it was shown like in a fight in the manga lol mb 😅
@@ningnings_randomworldZaraki and Ichigo were never stated to be relative. The only one in the novel that was stated to scale to Ichigo in any way was Ginjo
Awesome video man
Tempest That Hyperspace was mistranslation
Its stated within the french guide as well
@@Tempest1018 but when you use Japanese it clearly shows Subspace
I've translated that myself
Using 4 Diff Translator Everytime it shows Subspace
Although kanji used are same
But it should make more sense of it being Planet
Becoz imo SS,WOTL and Heuco Mundo are planets and in the movie can Clearly See that Dangai is smaller then those worlds
It should be Around Planet
Anyway that's js my interpretation
Gud video ✨
@@Medusafr they definitely arent planets theres stars within them shown within the manga however thanks for letting me know i will have to retranslate the kanji to see for myself
@@Tempest1018 sure thing
Ty
@@MedusafrSubspace and Hyperspace in certain contexts can mean the same thing with those Kanji
Very particular topic
Giorno was nerfed to high hell saying the ability only works when he strikes somone like tf saying king crimson doesn’t erase time cause things are still viable in the erase time
The stand stats say”can turn the opponents actions or will to zero whoever is hit by the ability will have T even their death turned to zero “ it’s like saying gojo ability slows down anything that contacts it and twisting it to say whoever is hit by gojo will get slowed down infinitely
Yeah that's something I started to realise about stuff like this. They/power scalers will witness something being stated and take a less reasonable interpretation from it.
One more thing is the fact Yhwach has Sankar Alter meaning he could just steal GER from Giorino 😭
W topic Temp, keep it up
I like your video but I would like to know where you think the all mighty peaks. Cuz it’s slowly starting to sound like a no limits fallacy. Cuz there’s characters in jojo who are just way faster than yhwach. For example pucci’s speed just far out scales anything in bleach. I haven’t seen any infinite or immeasurable speed feats in bleach. Not yet. So do you think he’d be able to beat pucci even tho the speed difference is too high? Yes I do think ger is weaker than pucci. So I do think yhwach would destroy ger, but soloing the verse? I don’t know about that. Especially with some fate manipulation in jojo as well
Yhwach and Mimihagi's rietsu crossed the entirety of a 5-6d Hyperspace which is an immeasurable speed feat.
Yhwach performed the feat twice btw.
@@magnaz26 Well I’m back after my 2 weeks of research and I don’t think I can agree. I didn’t see a single thing from bleach that reaches that level. I even looked at wanked arguments and got multiversal. Also I don’t have a single thing in bleach that supports even infinite speed let alone immeasurable. The best thing I got for you is probably infinite reaction speed but say it with me “Reaction speed means nothing if you can’t back that speed up”. Flash could have the best reaction feats in dc history but if his speed was only like mftl+ he’d get folded by a shit ton of dc characters because while yes he can see it coming that doesn’t mean that his body can react to it. Same way in those movies where a character sees a bullet being shot but can’t actually dodge it or move away from it. Also I have to say this because some people might get on my neck for this. No I haven’t watched bleach but I did do my research and looked at every single argument I could find on whatever scale and looked up scans and different translations. Also I found literally nothing on 6d bleach. Best I got was 4d and 5d. 5d is pushing it.
@@jkunimage4187
Well let me help you out with some concrete, canon info.
In the Bleach manga Kubo draws a -cosmology map- of the verse several times in the manga.
If you comprehend what you are looking at, the map Kubo draws in -Bleach ch625 pg13- confirms the cosmology to be a 5th - 6th Dimensional Space.
Like I already said, Soul King, Yhwach, and Mimihagi all have canon speed feats of their rietsu crossing the entirety of the 5-6d Cosmology map shown there in ch625pg 13, which is an immeasurable speed feat according to the official scaling of vs-battle wiki.
Yhwach's Rietsu crossed the distance twice in canon.
Ichibie also has his own unique immeasurable speed feat as well.
I posted the exact chapter and page number there so you can examine the map for yourself instead of just taking my word for it.
Let me know if you have any further questions.
@@magnaz26 well I seen it and I do understand it but it’s weird because 5d just doesn’t sound right to me when it comes to characters who are destroying galaxies and stuff. I’m also sure jojo has one character who’s also like 5d depending on how you interpret the feat. For context there’s a character named gappy who beat a character named wonder of U. Wonder of you should be over love train with is a multiversal shield containing infinite universes. This is because iraki has stated that calamity is the most dangerous thing in jojo. Even if he’s only talking about the new universe that’s already giving him multiversal anyway. Why does all this matter? Well gappy beat this multiversal character. Now this next part is where the interpretation matters. Gappy defeats wonder of U with a bubble from his evolved stand named soft and wet go beyond. He shoots bubbles that and I quote “Bubbles so thin that they don’t even exist in our world anymore” World being used as universe which is infinite as I just said. So this could only be 4d or 5d so it’s up to your interpretation
@@magnaz26 that's true thats it's 5d cause zanpakuto have it's own dimensions itself
los noches doesn't have a star. its light from the canopy
Its stated verbatim to have a star thats artificially made in the scan i bring it hp in💀
@@Tempest1018L not an actual star aizen has no such ability that allows him to create stars. Idgas wha u say, so aizen can create stars somehow but then gets bullied by a ichigo that gets his hand mangled by a hill level attack haha gtfo goof
@@Tempest1018They also blast through the roof from the inside so it being an artificial star doesn’t get any of the characters involved to star level.
@@Tempest1018 LOL These guys are in such denial its so hilarious.
@@onesmart229Is has a moon. But I there were stars in the sky. You can correct me if I'm wrong
Can you do hashirama vs Kaido?
I don’t know it just seems off to say because speed yhwach wins and you also only used silver chariot for the speed of ger and there are better speed feats like much better with pucci and his black hole feats I also know there are grate speed feats in the data books but you didn’t use them another thing you didn’t mention that is especially important for this fight is verse equalization and with both of them relying on hax so much there’re stats would play a digger role because they both have one shot moves so they would need to be at least equal in stats to have it effect them you also like I said underestimated his speed and you didn’t mention so ether for both of them and when you said yhwach would solo John you can’t say that there are a lot of Stan’s that could beat him like wonder of you or like d4c there are other stands like bohemian rhapsody but that one I don’t want to get into that
Edit what I was referencing was the stand stats
I wasn’t in charge nor well versed on jojo’s so i left that part to him and apologize if it wasn’t up to par
@@Tempest1018 a it’s cool you don’t got to apologize but if you want to know more about Jojo and what the stands can do there’s a guy called METAs he’s good he didn’t do verses battles out side of jojo but just for knowledge on it he’s good
You you are not even biased damn nice scaling
Goonish Video. Wou one taps
Lmfaooo
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Speed doesnt matter for Gers Ability activation. The direct evidence is that GER never touched Diavolo before the revert to zero and nothing is written as if there is a self action requirement. This wrong understanding just comes from a lack of reading comprehension. "struck" can mean more than a literal punch or like he throws revert to zero like a pitcher toward catcher's mit. A and B, not if B then A
Ger reverts not only reverts the action but the very will of the attacker to zero. Meaning he wouldn't be able to bypass requiem.@kingofassholes4348
@@salmanshah2617 ger can’t rtz reality warping
He only rtz after the action was done
But reality warping mean no action within timeline
You can’t rtz if there is nothing to rtz
Any event, thing appear by reality warping will have no past
So there is no way to rtz it because it not have past, there is no action lead to them so you can’t rtz
Its completely able to revert the erasure of time in which fate is also changeable . This makes it a perfect counter to the almighty. I'm not saying GER wins or anything but instead i think it would be a stalemate.@@vietcuongnguyenle8530
W vid. W forcajda too. Still think yhwach gets negged
WININIT?!
This guy scaled some characters and downgraded them by a few tiers. Yamamoto's Zanka no Tachi is said in the Manga to have the capability to destroy the entire soul society. Worlds like Hueco Mundo and the SS are scaled to be infinitely sized universes or close to infinite. Also Ichibei and the other top tiers of squad 0 are at least multiversal which Yhwach scales above. He beat Ichibei so easily. Also Yamamoto is way stronger than you think. The sternritter who copied Yhwach had 80% of Yhwach's power, whom Yamamoto easily beat with Zanka no Tachi North. Yhwach had to send him to fight against Yamamoto to buy time for him to talk to aizen, but also as well to waste Yamamoto's power. This shows that he would have a hard time fighting Yamamoto directly. This means Yamamoto should be scaled to MFTL-MFTL+ speeds and should have enough power to beat Yhwach without his Almighty ability, just like he did 1000 years prior. Even then he didn't show his full power, which really says something, even though Yhwach's ability wasn't awakened yet. Not to mention, Yhwach easily soloes Giorno and Giorno has no chance because he can also take powers using "Sankt Altar". Only Ichibei was able to counter this ability directly. Everybody else had to train and get their Bankai back, like Byakuya, or Ichigo.
Don’t take this a true as I don’t know this guys intentions
But i believe he would lower some character solely to make it seems uhh “closer” or put it in a way where it’s not immediately obvious so people watch the full video
The Almighty is just King Crimson Requiem.
its way better
Way better than that
@@deathmark1940 how? Explain Yourself.
Yhwach vs Novel Kars would be an even fight. If Novel Kars copies Yhwach's abilities and upgrades them, Yhwach can just use the visionary to copy his copy. It would be endless, but it would be a pretty cool fight
@Josh-ox6nuHe can even use it after existence erasure, or after getting his hax deleted
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Nice vid but Aizen doesn't have more reiatsu than Ichigo necessarily. There's no direct statement about this. Furthermore HoS Bankai Ichigo would scale above the verse in terms of raw power since instead of taking him head on Juha just haxxed him out while he didn't do the same against Aizen
We can’t know that, could be that Ichigo true bankai is just as hacks strong as almighty, so Ywach didn’t want to take any chances with that, could be raw power but just can’t assume that.
As strong as ger is what if girono dies before ger uses it’s ability’s in the anime I know girono got injured but I don’t think he died so if he died would the stands abilities not work
Do black clover vs bleach
Giorno slam
Giorno is not touching yhwach lmao
@@KomiSenpai_GER was literally made to combat and counter people who can manipulate the future so he solos not even a close fight
Yhwach can alter the future hop timelines negate anyone negating his abilitys ability negation barrier/defense negation (?) he also can just think away ger with visionary also even if ger managed to "kill" yhwach he would jus use miracle or revive himself
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Your scale was great as always but whoever scaled giorno was way off they downplayed him massively you need someone who can actually scale Jojos to be in the videos
Exactly where did i mess up on the scaling? he's slower than KC and his ability only works at speeds it has shown. asserting its above anything it has been shown is a nlf
kc is easily scaled to mftl+ through his fight with silver chariot. He is casually able to out speed silver chariot which can easily be scaled to mftl +. Also KC literally erase time. Why else would araki say that he literally erases time and is able to step outside of it entirely. Also GER has fate manipulation which yhwach may also have but remember yhwach wasn't even able to prevent his own death despite having the almighty. GER on the other hand was able to rewrite giorno ever dying in the first place as seen through epitaph right before diavolo is clapped. GER can also be scaled to 5D since kc steps outside of time entirely, and GER essentially steps outside of the outside of time. There are plenty of other arguments that properly give GER justice instead of SEVERELY lowballing him like you did. I'm not saying GER wins against yhwach but he sure as hell won't lose.@@MRForca
u lot talking about yuha using the almight against giorno is funny. care to remember that yuha can use all the schrift he granted to the quincy. Love schrift is enought to take care of giorno and dont get me wrong i love jojo but common this is ridicule
Do wonder of you vs ywach
GER solos, in no future ywhach can see does he reach the trutth🔥
W vid
You did not just say solo the entirety of jojo, clearly you don't watch or read jojo, no fucking way could he beat characters like D4C love train, or Wonder of U, no fucking way in hell! Heck even Johnny's Tusk act 4 spin shot can destroy him in every conceivable timeline and alternate universe!
You clearly don’t know yhwach abilities and hax☠️if you want I can list some of them and btw Yhwach outscales and outhaxes the whole verse,there’s no debate in that
what about d4c
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Solo the whole Jojo? I doubt
Nah he doesn’t except for maybe tusk act 4
@@Tempest1018 isn't tusk act 4 weaker than ger tho? i mean in hax of course, as ger could just revert tusk's nails to before they were fired
@@Tempest1018can't Yhwach just kill Johnny before he does anything because he can see the future?
@@louaidz1929Yes
@@Tempest1018wonder of u and soft and wet have outer scaling lmfao
delusional ger downplay
Not the one who scaled bro
@@Tempest1018sorry was not trying to insult you but this dude is using mutiple disingenuous lowballs that have been addressed mutiple times
Yhwach does slam ger but doesnt solo jjba. He respectfully is a WOU victim
@kingofassholes4348 his calamity is conceptual and every universe that has calamity is connected with WoU
No and giorno is faster
dude giorno doesnt have inacessible speed, king crimson doesn't literally erase time, it skips people's perception of time. As far as we know, ger is still just mftl, and nowhere higher
@ningningfish06 Noooo wtf who said this 🤣. Time abilities in Jojo effect time as a whole. This is why humans can only manipulate 5 seconds of time. However, DIO's stopped time was growing. If you don't train your stand abilities. Time will resist the stand even more dropping down to 2 seconds. Which proves it's time itself being effected.
If you're not at a peak synergy with your stand. The stands ability will also weaken. Jotaro in part 4 is a prime example. Because he stopped fighting SP still had all it's physical stats. But time stop got considerably weaker.
@@AMAZIAHFr as of late GER has immeasurable speed with feats. Silver chariot alone is MFTL as it blocked 4 solar rays simultaneously from the stand “The Sun”.
@@nighfinite and how exactly is ger immeasurable speed? As far as i know regular ge is ftl+ to mftl at best, and ger doesn't have any better speed feats
@@ningnings_randomworld The scaling is based off of Made in Heaven who has infinite to immeasurable speed. Made in Heaven speeds up the time of the universe at a slower pace, but Pucci still has infinite to immeasurable speed. GER is said to be the ultimate stand by Araki. In the jojoveller along with other stand guide books GER’s stand stats are “none” as they are too strong to state. MIH (made in Heaven) is shown with an infinite sign for speed. GER is consistently shown as the ultimate stand and Araki has also stated that it’s stats are above all other stands. Now you may ask SP was also said to be an ultimate stand, yes that was many years ago and it is also said it is ultimate in raw strength. GER was able to move and act in King Crimsons ability, you’re also right king crimson erases people’s perception of time and edits itself out of the undesirable fate Diavolo sees with Epitaph. During this ability time does not exist yet GER was able to act and activate its ability which powered over Diavolo’s fate manipulation. This is another great speed feat for GER as not even King Crimson is able to interact with the world during its own ability. I’m not supporting the GER no limits fallacy as it isn’t consistent and is only theory based on the whole stand stat analysis. GER’s speed is on a higher caliber of immeasurable than made in Heaven as it is consistently said and proven by Araki himself that it’s stats are superior to all other stands. This only comes into question later with SAW Go Beyond and WOU but that’s more technical. GER when gaining its requiem also gained a boost in all of its stats Araki claimed it as a direct evolution of GE. So no it’s speed, strength, and other stats would not be the same at all. RTZ affects anything with a will and/or a cause, it is not limited by speed at all not sure where the video got that, and it is a passive activation of whatever is done is meant to harm or put GER in a disadvantage. Last thing only stand users can see stands and only stands can harm stands no they are not spirits it is the manifestation of mental energy of a stand user through their psyche. They gain this from a strong fighting spirit. I don’t like when people compare them to spirits because they are completely different although I’m sure you knew this.
yhawach was litrally the only villain who use 10% of his full power during the final ending fight
😂idk abt all of jojo bcuz WoU, S&Wgb, D4CLT, and TA4 all arguably can solo the bleach verse
Only one there worth mentioning is really just tusk lmfao
@@Tempest1018soft and wet go beyond shit stomps yhwach
Wou annihilates
Lol umm no not all jojo wonder u solos the bleach verse
bro GER solos bleach verse
no lol
Did you seriously say that Giorno’s ability only activates when he is attacked? Then how did he reset the actions of the leaves and the birds that were just passing by? Yhwach may see every conceivable victory, but he will just never reach the conclusion. Yhwach isn’t even going to be able to move let alone activate his powers.
As for actually killing Yhwach, Giorno can just turn his body parts into animals and scatter them.