So wisdom being a product of hindsight we can add to our tool box of diagnostic protocols. When dealing with a buzz of any kind the first check should a complete fastener check .
I bet you didn't film it because you weren't actively "working on the guitar". You got up to go get something. Ah well, as nice as it would have been to see it, this is still a great and informative video. Thanks, Jerry!
Many thanks Jerry for this VERY informative video, I'm an old fella from Hamilton NZ ( on my Wife's tablet- SUSAN ) Iv'e Always enjoyed your videos, & listening to your logical explanations as you proceed.I'm 72 yrs young, with a caring Wife & 6 kids but NO money otherwise I'd have given you a Cash Donation years ago, regards Don & take care 😊
I've been watching you for years. When you said, after looking down the fretboard, that you really didn't see anything bad wrong with the frets, I figured the problem would be something else. I was guessing a loose brace inside or something. My point is, as usual, your eyes weren't lying to you.
interesting video. I have 2 old classical guitars. A kazuo Yairi from 1967 and a Yamaha from 1973. A few years ago I was hearing a buzz on my Yairi, but I could never find the buzz. It was on a couple of notes and it was periodic. The buzz eventually disappeared. It could have been something like a screw in the peghead. I remember changing the strings on it and cleaning the guitar when the strings were off. I noticed a couple of loose screws on the tuning keys and tightened them. That could have been the source of the buzz. I never thought about that until this video.
So, my story is similar to yours..... A beautiful Spanish classical guitar with on board pick-up, plush case ..... the works. Cost me about $1200 US back in 2000. This thing sounded amazing through my sound system ....... except for the buzz !! I tried everything myself including frets, re-taping pick-up wires, I even thought it may have been coming from the volume control slider.... couldn't find the culprit. Eventually had it serviced by a luthier.... $200 later..... not fixed. I actually removed and checked the tuners.... put them back on..... no good, the buzz, albeit minor, was still there. It drove me nuts ! Months later, not sure why but on a whim, I decided to purchase a new set of machine heads ..... put them on ..... buzz gone. Go figure.....
A true Artisan. A Professional. Jerry is so good at what he does that he's trained himself to recognise, detect and repair, any problem I've ever seen him face. He is NOT happy unless he solves the problem at hand. I'm Gonna Miss you, Friend - but I've farmed at me GrandPa"s so, who knows!? Peace and Good Health, Jerry, to you & your's.
Just one more good reason, to Not have cats around. With all that hair collecting, in the guitar, just imagine how much the owner sucked into their lungs, in the same time period ( the guitar doesn't breath ).
Interesting find. Every couple string changes I “test” my tuners. Not really tighten the nuts and screws, just making sure none are loose. Good find! I’ll bet the owner was really pleased.
I put a new bridge on a telecaster. After I put new strings on it, it had a slight buzz. I thought it was the saddles on the bridge. I tried everything and the buzz would not go away. I set it aside for a few days, and then I couldn't get it to buzz again. After watching this video...I'm thinking maybe it wasn't just in my head. It may not have been the bridge at all. Maybe it was a tuner or something. I thought I had a ghost messing with me. LOL Great video.
My biggest takeaway on this is that if you can't hear what the customer is complaining about, try listening over his shoulder. I guess the volume of the guitar was overpowering the buzz that his left ear was picking up. Good video, and good explanation, even if it was missing the ending!
My takeaway as a professional trouble shooter in a different field is that sometimes just repeating a small or intermittent issue requires Herculean effort in recreating the exact condition where it pops up. Here, in my opinion, the orientation of the guitar was crucial to get a buzz. Laying it down to test basically eliminated the phyaical orientation condition required to buzz.
Great video, I usually ignore the tiny buzzing because to me it's just part of how guitars are and I think a person can really lose their minds trying to eliminate them. and I know customers can be very picky about that. not only can jerry here a micro buzz but he can here the direction it's coming from, pretty impressive and I bet he's good hunter!
Somehow eating with this ending... I know that sometime in the future I'm bound to run into this problem and you save me from going crazy .... so thanks again ❤🙂 and I love you program for years now.
My man . I love you my friend This video helped me to fix a rattle / or what I thought it was fret buzzing that was bothering me for almost six month. And I could not figure out where it came from. Until now I saw your video. I went tighten the turning keys . Some were loose. Tighten them all and .voila!!! Problem solved !!! You are the best
All's well that ends well like they say. I guess you need to pay attention to the details. Even the smallest things can give you a buzz. The Peg head was my first thought because on a steel string the keys can buzz from lose ferrules and such. Great job and a beautiful guitar.
I love your videos, as an amateur luthier (and I use that very lightly) you have taught me so much about working on guitars. Thank you for sharing your craft with me.
Great lesson Jerry (think simple First) I fix guitar's here in NZ and I'm Retired so I'm not a professional but I try and make it a habit to explore all simple possibilities first. But thanks again 😊😊😊
I understand. Noises can be very difficult to find. I had one car that the customer heard a rattle and I could not hear it. When a co-worker rode with me, she could hear it easily. When I "rode" in the car it was very obvious. It couldn't be heard from the driver's seat!
Jerry, I'm sure this will be very helpful, to a lot of people. There are a finite number of places, to get a buzz and the more we have on record the better. The process of finding them is, still, more important, even if it is just luck. It all counts. P.S.: Glad to see you are feeling a little better. It takes a while for the medications to build up, in your system and provide protection and, as you found out, a very short time without them, to be completely unprotected. 😁✌🖖
i am so happy to see that you havn't totally gotten away from guitar repair. you said you were done a short time back. broke my heart. NOW i'll be building again come cold weather. gonna try ovation style tub back but extreme bent wood. gonna be a challenge. mold building and vacuum clamp will be a pain. thoughts???
My Yamaha classical has a buzz in the G string but only when played open. I chased it, but I believe it's coming from the bracing inside the guitar and I am no luthier who could repair it.
You could try putting a small piece of paper (1 sheet thick) in the nut slot by simply lifting the string and sliding in the paper. If the buzz goes away, then the nut slot could be the problem. Tightening the Tuner "gear" screws is generally a good idea, but don't use too much pressure.
Hold your guitar, by the neck, with your hand deadening the strings. Tap all over the body, with the tip of your finger (Not fingernail). Listen for a buzzy rattle, to locate a loose brace, or determine if there is one.
@@picksalot1I just bought a 1968 Giannini Model 6 nylon string guitar, and diagnosed the same condition with the low E string. If the notch in the nut is too deep, the vibrating string brushes on the fret. The video shows how far those strings move (amplitude?), particularly at higher volume. If I want to permanently raise the notch, what’s the best method beyond folded paper? I heard layered superglue, but am skeptical.
Ramirez is kind of the CF Martin of the classical world. I had an infuriating buzz in my steel string. IT was mostly as far as we could tell something inside the LR Baggs saddle pickup, which was broken anyway. Took near a year to find and then it was just that the pickup failed and we replaced it.
I had a similar problem on an electric bass guitar that turned out to be one of the tuners having a slightly loose head. Spent quite a while figuring that one out, just like in this video.
A really good video. Many thumbs up to this video and your work. Do you know what Luther/company made this guitar? It is truly a beautiful guitar. Jerry, I truly wish you and your family a blessed safe fun Fourth of July.
Hope the allergy resolves itself and the fingers are healing ok. Do you replant after felling or is there enough new growth? Farm is beautiful. One last thing I just got a new T shirt which says "I'm not arguing with you I'm just explaining why I'm right". Hope everything works out in all your ventures!
It’s his aggressive apoyando stroke. Even with perfectly leveled frets and appropriate relief, this style of playing on nylon strings just requires action extraordinarily higher than steel string players, or even folk nylon or tirando stroke classics players can use - talking in the range of .160 on the bass and .130 treble, or more. There’s just no getting around it. Even if everything on the guitar is perfect, classical players who use this style of attack just need to accept ridiculously high action. It’s either they accept that, or adapt their style to use more of a cross or free stroke in playing. Some players could make a lap steel buzz if they hit it right.
hey Jerry! so i have a buzz only when fretting the 3rd on the b string and the d string. i cannot for the life of me figure out why. Any ideas on why that could be??
Wow how crazy is that. If you hadn't gotten up, you probably would not have heard that buzz. Yep there's another great example of how God orders the steps of a righteous man. Good you did listen.
They are built a little different from the bracing and the peg head to the action. Nylon strings and how they are attached at the bridge. Very nice guitars though.
Seems like he's hitting the strings much much too hard with his thumb..a bit ham fisted technique I think he needs to work on a lighter touch...it's not a flamingo guitar it's more designed for classical finger style..the guitar is fine it's the players hitting it much to hard that's the problem...Doctors with expensive guitars is a whole other discussion lol...
I had a similar problem. I think even top spanish guitar builders are being a little cheap on tuners nowadays. In my case, I had to replace them because the cogs were very low quality, seemed to be poorly casted, which produced an awful buzz. And we're talking about a $5000 guitar.
Like an episode of Sherlock Holmes! Another satisfied customer!
So wisdom being a product of hindsight we can add to our tool box of diagnostic protocols. When dealing with a buzz of any kind the first check should a complete fastener check .
I bet you didn't film it because you weren't actively "working on the guitar". You got up to go get something.
Ah well, as nice as it would have been to see it, this is still a great and informative video. Thanks, Jerry!
He told us it is a Jose Ramirez ( made in Spain) Iv'e played 1 here in a Hamilton NZ Luthier's Shop and it was simply STUNNING !!
that proves that all parts are important!!
Many thanks Jerry for this VERY informative video, I'm an old fella from Hamilton NZ ( on my Wife's tablet- SUSAN ) Iv'e Always enjoyed your videos, & listening to your logical explanations as you proceed.I'm 72 yrs young, with a caring Wife & 6 kids but NO money otherwise I'd have given you a Cash Donation years ago, regards Don & take care 😊
"( on my Wife's tablet- SUSAN )"
I'm glad you clarified that. I was just about to ask if you were the original "Boy Named Sue". 🤣🤣 😁✌🖖
Makes a lot of sense Jerry once you found the problem . Tuners can cause problems .
I've been watching you for years. When you said, after looking down the fretboard, that you really didn't see anything bad wrong with the frets, I figured the problem would be something else. I was guessing a loose brace inside or something.
My point is, as usual, your eyes weren't lying to you.
Every day is school day.
Good work, Jerry! Those kind of buzzes can drive you crazy.
Very instructive, Jerry. It is a good ending, just not caught on the video. Thanks!
Very enjoyable video as ever Jerry 👍🇬🇧👍
So good,thanks
This was one of the best videos
Great video, I miss the repair videos!
interesting video. I have 2 old classical guitars. A kazuo Yairi from 1967 and a Yamaha from 1973. A few years ago I was hearing a buzz on my Yairi, but I could never find the buzz. It was on a couple of notes and it was periodic. The buzz eventually disappeared. It could have been something like a screw in the peghead. I remember changing the strings on it and cleaning the guitar when the strings were off. I noticed a couple of loose screws on the tuning keys and tightened them. That could have been the source of the buzz. I never thought about that until this video.
So, my story is similar to yours.....
A beautiful Spanish classical guitar with on board pick-up, plush case ..... the works. Cost me about $1200 US back in 2000. This thing sounded amazing through my sound system ....... except for the buzz !!
I tried everything myself including frets, re-taping pick-up wires, I even thought it may have been coming from the volume control slider.... couldn't find the culprit.
Eventually had it serviced by a luthier.... $200 later..... not fixed.
I actually removed and checked the tuners.... put them back on..... no good, the buzz, albeit minor, was still there. It drove me nuts !
Months later, not sure why but on a whim, I decided to purchase a new set of machine heads ..... put them on ..... buzz gone.
Go figure.....
A true Artisan. A Professional. Jerry is so good at what he does that he's trained himself to recognise, detect and repair, any problem I've ever seen him face. He is NOT happy unless he solves the problem at hand. I'm Gonna Miss you, Friend - but I've farmed at me GrandPa"s so, who knows!? Peace and Good Health, Jerry, to you & your's.
I had the same thing happen on one of my steel string guitars. Was so happy when I found it and relieved that I wasn't totally crazy. 😆
Nice but that wild story about removing a coffee can full of cat hair to fix the tone quality on that martin guitar still is the best one for me.
Just one more good reason, to Not have cats around. With all that hair collecting, in the guitar, just imagine
how much the owner sucked into their lungs, in the same time period ( the guitar doesn't breath ).
@@zapa1pnt I agree and tell others the same thing.
You just never know, nice job!
Interesting find. Every couple string changes I “test” my tuners. Not really tighten the nuts and screws, just making sure none are loose. Good find! I’ll bet the owner was really pleased.
I have heard tuning keys do that before.
I knew if it could be fixed you would have been the one to fix it. Nice job Jerry.. God bless..🇺🇸🌹❤️
great video Jerry! get well soon
I put a new bridge on a telecaster. After I put new strings on it, it had a slight buzz. I thought it was the saddles on the bridge. I tried everything and the buzz would not go away. I set it aside for a few days, and then I couldn't get it to buzz again. After watching this video...I'm thinking maybe it wasn't just in my head. It may not have been the bridge at all. Maybe it was a tuner or something. I thought I had a ghost messing with me. LOL Great video.
Very entertaining vid, though. Always check them tuning pegs when you hear a buzz, lol. I learned that when i was young.
Glad to see you're feeling better Jerry!
It's all about experience....
Rosa String Works.. #HenryFord, the maker of the model T automobile, once said; ( I’m paraphrasing.) “It is knowing which screw to turn.” 😂❤
Awesome job 👍
Well Jerry, I loved that video. I was like #667 to get you off of that scary number. Sorry about your allergies.
My biggest takeaway on this is that if you can't hear what the customer is complaining about, try listening over his shoulder. I guess the volume of the guitar was overpowering the buzz that his left ear was picking up. Good video, and good explanation, even if it was missing the ending!
My takeaway as a professional trouble shooter in a different field is that sometimes just repeating a small or intermittent issue requires Herculean effort in recreating the exact condition where it pops up. Here, in my opinion, the orientation of the guitar was crucial to get a buzz. Laying it down to test basically eliminated the phyaical orientation condition required to buzz.
Great video, I usually ignore the tiny buzzing because to me it's just part of how guitars are and I think a person can really lose their minds trying to eliminate them. and I know customers can be very picky about that. not only can jerry here a micro buzz but he can here the direction it's coming from, pretty impressive and I bet he's good hunter!
great story . many things happen by just pure luck . get well soon .
Somehow eating with this ending... I know that sometime in the future I'm bound to run into this problem and you save me from going crazy .... so thanks again ❤🙂 and I love you program for years now.
My man . I love you my friend
This video helped me to fix a rattle / or what I thought it was fret buzzing that was bothering me for almost six month. And I could not figure out where it came from. Until now I saw your video. I went tighten the turning keys . Some were loose. Tighten them all and .voila!!! Problem solved !!! You are the best
Enjoyable and educational video
All's well that ends well like they say. I guess you need to pay attention to the details. Even the smallest things can give you a buzz. The Peg head was my first thought because on a steel string the keys can buzz from lose ferrules and such. Great job and a beautiful guitar.
Off course we'll give you a thumbs up! I mean, who doesn't love a good mystery?!
Glad to see signs of life from Jerry!
I had this happen on a cheap 1960's MIJ bass guitar.
I love your videos, as an amateur luthier (and I use that very lightly) you have taught me so much about working on guitars. Thank you for sharing your craft with me.
Great lesson Jerry (think simple First) I fix guitar's here in NZ and I'm Retired so I'm not a professional but I try and make it a habit to explore all simple possibilities first. But thanks again 😊😊😊
Thank you Jerry!
I heard it, glad you found it ,it would of drive me crazy also 👍🏼
I understand. Noises can be very difficult to find. I had one car that the customer heard a rattle and I could not hear it. When a co-worker rode with me, she could hear it easily. When I "rode" in the car it was very obvious. It couldn't be heard from the driver's seat!
Jerry, I'm sure this will be very helpful, to a lot of people.
There are a finite number of places, to get a buzz and the more we have on record the better.
The process of finding them is, still, more important, even if it is just luck. It all counts.
P.S.: Glad to see you are feeling a little better. It takes a while for the medications to build
up, in your system and provide protection and, as you found out, a very short time without
them, to be completely unprotected. 😁✌🖖
i am so happy to see that you havn't totally gotten away from guitar repair. you said you were done a short time back. broke my heart. NOW i'll be building again come cold weather. gonna try ovation style tub back but extreme bent wood. gonna be a challenge. mold building and vacuum clamp will be a pain. thoughts???
This was an old video I have retired and will not resume work
Great catch Jerry!
Jerry, you’re always “thumbs-up!”
Love it!
My Yamaha classical has a buzz in the G string but only when played open. I chased it, but I believe it's coming from the bracing inside the guitar and I am no luthier who could repair it.
You could try putting a small piece of paper (1 sheet thick) in the nut slot by simply lifting the string and sliding in the paper. If the buzz goes away, then the nut slot could be the problem. Tightening the Tuner "gear" screws is generally a good idea, but don't use too much pressure.
Hold your guitar, by the neck, with your hand deadening the strings. Tap all over the body, with the
tip of your finger (Not fingernail). Listen for a buzzy rattle, to locate a loose brace, or determine if there is one.
@@picksalot1I just bought a 1968 Giannini Model 6 nylon string guitar, and diagnosed the same condition with the low E string. If the notch in the nut is too deep, the vibrating string brushes on the fret. The video shows how far those strings move (amplitude?), particularly at higher volume.
If I want to permanently raise the notch, what’s the best method beyond folded paper? I heard layered superglue, but am skeptical.
Great problem solving Jerry!
Ramirez is kind of the CF Martin of the classical world. I had an infuriating buzz in my steel string. IT was mostly as far as we could tell something inside the LR Baggs saddle pickup, which was broken anyway. Took near a year to find and then it was just that the pickup failed and we replaced it.
Awesome video! Thank you!
Buzz light Tuner, well found Jerry.
Glad that you were able to finally "PEG" the problem Jerry:)
Grrrooooaaaaannnn. 😁✌🖖
Yeah,Check all the obvious demons first,hope your feeling better you sound rough,Cheers!
I had a similar problem on an electric bass guitar that turned out to be one of the tuners having a slightly loose head. Spent quite a while figuring that one out, just like in this video.
A really good video. Many thumbs up to this video and your work. Do you know what Luther/company made this guitar? It is truly a beautiful guitar. Jerry, I truly wish you and your family a blessed safe fun Fourth of July.
We named it right at the beginning I guess you missed it
Great video!
And that’s before you have to consider psycho-acoustic effects ! Can be just as real to the player and the poor luthier :-(
Never heard of a fret rocker.
Awe!
Well at least he got the frets leveled and optimized. Probably better than new.
That is needed. Rv industry cannot police itself.
I still enjoyed the video!
Hope the allergy resolves itself and the fingers are healing ok.
Do you replant after felling or is there enough new growth? Farm is beautiful.
One last thing I just got a new T shirt which says "I'm not arguing with you I'm just explaining why I'm right".
Hope everything works out in all your ventures!
Better being lucky than good!
I had loose screws on my electric archtop bridge. Took a while to locate.
It’s his aggressive apoyando stroke.
Even with perfectly leveled frets and appropriate relief, this style of playing on nylon strings just requires action extraordinarily higher than steel string players, or even folk nylon or tirando stroke classics players can use - talking in the range of .160 on the bass and .130 treble, or more.
There’s just no getting around it. Even if everything on the guitar is perfect, classical players who use this style of attack just need to accept ridiculously high action. It’s either they accept that, or adapt their style to use more of a cross or free stroke in playing.
Some players could make a lap steel buzz if they hit it right.
Good work.i always let a woman listen for a buzz.
im having a similar issue with electric guitar , im going to check the tuning keys in the morning
I’ve had a buzz on my classical for 10 years now and I’ve never been able to find it. Better check the pegs now then
hey Jerry! so i have a buzz only when fretting the 3rd on the b string and the d string. i cannot for the life of me figure out why. Any ideas on why that could be??
Drums are notorious for sympathetic buzz
Wow how crazy is that. If you hadn't gotten up, you probably would not have heard that buzz. Yep there's another great example of how God orders the steps of a righteous man. Good you did listen.
Im just seeing this but i thought it was a great video
I never understood the "don't work on classical'
They're made entirely different they're played entirely different the action is set entirely different and I have no expertise in any of it
They are built a little different from the bracing and the peg head to the action. Nylon strings and how they are attached at the bridge. Very nice guitars though.
@@RosaStringWorksthere is a first time for everything. 😀😀😀
@@nancymilawski1048: It's a good thing, for Dr Spedero (sp), to have a friend like Jerry.
Seems like he's hitting the strings much much too hard with his thumb..a bit ham fisted technique I think he needs to work on a lighter touch...it's not a flamingo guitar it's more designed for classical finger style..the guitar is fine it's the players hitting it much to hard that's the problem...Doctors with expensive guitars is a whole other discussion lol...
I did not hear much
I had a similar problem. I think even top spanish guitar builders are being a little cheap on tuners nowadays. In my case, I had to replace them because the cogs were very low quality, seemed to be poorly casted, which produced an awful buzz. And we're talking about a $5000 guitar.
umm...