Michelle Beadle: There is a ‘lack of education’ for how to treat women | Get Up! | ESPN
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- Michelle Beadle reacts to the New York Times article citing incidents from 2018 involving the objectification of the Washington Redskins cheerleaders, saying that there is a "lack of education" for how to treat women.
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Michelle and Molly need to get a show so nobody can watch it.
Preston Chandler LMAOOOOO THIS COMMENT
This!
Preston Chandler yea it’s on porn hub
Only Sarah Spain would watch it
It would be watchable if there was no audio available.
ESPN needs an education on how to be objective sports journalists
Or you could stop being such a snowflake and worry about things with merit?
What’s the objectivity you’re seeking? A counterpoint on how exploiting women is okay?
Here for jalen. Just dump the rest. Michelle make it seem like women are perfect
OGARYTV because they are. 😂😂😂😂. Get rid of cheerleading
Bill E Not in my world. No one is perfect
this is why ESPN will continue to decline and lose viewers sjw and these modern feminist are ridiculous
Jay Clemons no, this is why you will continue to have a shrunken manhood and thankfully have no chance of reproducing miniature versions of your unwashed ass!
Yea these incles jjust mad women wont fuck em
@@kgrkid true
This comment aged so beautifully!
She said she wants man to change what they doing but on the other hand she don’t want women to change what they doing such hypocrisy. GL
Light Upon Light huh?
This is the same women who called Tracy Mcgrady a 'coward' on live TV when he was sitting right there.
Who do you think came up with the idea of cheerleaders..Im guessing it was women wanting to be somehow involved because there little brother or older brother or boyfriend was playing. But that doesnt mean they want to be objectified and gawked at and treated like hookers!
Jalen hit the nail on the head. The purpose of those cheerleaders is to sell their bodies. Of course they're going to be objectified. The very nature of their job objectifies them. Beadle says this is male problem, but the reality is, if you go into a field where you're selling your body, you should have the expectation that that is what's expected. No one is looking at a cheerleader for her flips, or dancing, unless it's competitive cheering (which is different). By saying this is a problem with men, you're saying that the biological nature of man is wrong. Yes, it's scummy for the Redskins to force them to post topless, but come on, you know that's what people want, the business will obviously take full advantage of that. To say "why do we still have cheer-leading" is a very valid question and shouldn't be dismissed. You don't want people to objectify women, don't put them in a position to be objectified, and get upset when they succeed in their purpose. The issue here isn't men, it's the naive expectation of the nature of your job.
Taha Elzaim yea but this means women would have to be held accountable and they cant have that. It's always the mans fault.
Not at all. The women shouldn't be held accountable, but they should take an initiative to protect themselves from the reality, rather than finger point.
Taha Elzaim but they do it just because they want to DANCE! (/Sarcasm)
Taha you’re so right
EXACTLY THANK YOU SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN
remember when espn was analysts and former ball players discussing the game? and storylines about free agency, the draft, and mapping out plays, blocking schemes, baserunning, defensive schemes, and highlight plays?
Rip Stew Scott and Chris Berman
Micah Pratt hell no i dont
no.... I dont
Adult Virgin alert
This isn't about sports? Washington Redskins isn't a sports team?
Getting a job as an object then complaining you're treated like a object makes no sense. That's like a fire fighter complaining they have to get near a fire
That makes no sense.... the women had their passports taken from them, and where then told by their bosses to pose topless while men watched. I honestly can’t even believe how stupid this comment was. Fireman fighting fires...? I mean really?
@@crazytrain111 I mean if your job ask you to do it will you do it or not they signed up for it and it was for a photo shoot.If you was a fire fighter and they told you to save 10 kids in a fire they can’t complain that it is impossible they have to do it you signed up for it🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@crazytrain111 what do you think they were hired for
I'm hired for my strength and size so when I'm asked to pick up a 400 lb granite slab to set it in place I don't start bitching about it
@@lockandloadlikehell are you really comparing that to this..? Are you sick in the head ?
Theres a difference between women cheering on the sideline for the team and Taking pictures topless and used as escorts for the money men!
So you decide to run around half naked and mad when men sexualised you but your sexualising your own body by what you wear this is not victim blaming it's common sense men can be sexualised but our clothing is very different from women's when essentially women's fashion has become let me see how much skin I can get away with showing
Got Hops Money you make no sense even you know you make sense Lol
Class A idiot
The only thing I agree with here is that it is true, women's fashion has become "let me see how much skin I can get away with showing." That's just a fact.
anthony chessman u might want to edit that comment man I'm not sure u worded it how u meant to lol
Yo I'm lost on this comment🤣🤣🤣
Welllll you just killed your show already.
you have no power boy.
Damn this show is dead and it’s barely been out
IM REALLY BOUT TO GETCHA YA Greenie brings nothing.He isn’t entertaining, he isn’t a former athlete and he isn’t a stay guy.
IM REALLY BOUT TO GETCHA YA Nobody likes Michelle Beadle.
Hahahaha
Honestly... There is PLENTY of education today about how to treat women. Bad point made here
No there isnt.... have you read any of the comments on this video? Almost all of them are negative comments about women.
All of the comments are truthful and aren't negative really. They are making good points, Michelle makes women out to be perfect. I'm all for equality, but come on in this day and age saying that there isn't enough education and awareness on how to treat women, preposterous statement! I go to college in Boston and trust me, there is education about it.
Ryan Anderson nearly every comment has been about how “they’re cheerleaders and this is what they’re asking for by doing that job.” Just an awful way to think about the world. Nobody should be pressured into something like this, and it happens to women in male dominated businesses a lot more. They had their passports taken from them and then their bosses told them to take off their tops and pose in front of a group of men... I don’t really care what your job is, that’s not okay and nobody should have to feel like they need to do something because their boss told them too. There is no awareness in these comments at all. Nothing but “well their half naked whores dancing for men anyways so who care? And Michelle is a feminist bitch and I hope her show goes off the air.”
Danny Kaleal you're right this isn't just a forgivable act, what these guys did (if true) shouldn't be tolerated. But the way Michelle is talking sounds like women can do no wrong.
There are shitty Men and Women all over North America. Looking at Macro data in the United States you could easily make a case that Women are more privileged than men. More women are enrolled and graduating post secondary education, more women are being placed in entry level jobs out of post secondary education, and win majority of divorce settlements. Men also have astronomical high rates of suicide and incarceration. Also domestic violence against men is prevalent (although not as much as it is against women) but literally never gets talked about.
Denny Kaleal Beadle is fucking trash
Why wasn't this news 5 yrs ago when it happened
some dusty hoe probably got fired and is vengeful or was offered a ton of money by someone to come out with it
Lol ESPN always act like old news is new news. I guess it was before ESPN went full political
Jalen is the only good thing about this show
Woman get out of tickets and jail time like it’s a full time job, men get a ticket every time they get pulled over. I think woman get treated pretty good, in fact better than men.
SLIGHT MARE Lol what ?
Lmao what does getting out of a ticket got to do with anything
I think you're part of the 'lack of education problem' she is referring to
anthony cheesman it's pros in cons
They accepted the terms simple as that..plenty of other professions that don't require you to be topless..
If there's a problem with education, it's the parents fault, not society. If you let society raise your child, they'll end up doing stuff like that.
How can you stop society from influencing your kids? Internet, phones, tv, school, friends, etc. we are all connected and see things and the world in ways we never used too. It’s impossible to keep your kids from being influenced by the world in some way.
At the end of the day These women have a choice to make. So No or Say Yes. If you manipulated or threatened occupationally which is financially speaking, than they have to voice it. So much of this is subjective.
I feel America coddles women and excuse them from personal responsibility as we would a child.
They all had a choice to go along with this topless thing and escorting thing.
Like ladies take responsibility for yourself and say No. You have a shit tone of following and backing if your authority fires you or demotes you or reprimands you in anyway. Women have full advantage.
Doesn't it tell you something that these women didn't feel they were able to do that. There's so much pressure on women and girls nowadays to look and dress a certain way. If your full-time job is to be a cheerleader and the Redskins organisation asks you to do something like this, there's a fundamental issue that needs to be addressed.
Lorcan Rees god damn women are not held accountable shit is crazy
If you read the story they didn’t have a choice because they took there passports away so they couldn’t go home
Enrico Dallas i didn't read the story but the way she covered the story is atrocious. men are sick and tired for being blamed for everything if those women where kidnapped they should have talked about it when it happened now we men as a hole are fucking up and we as a collective don't know how to treat women it's just bullshit.
@@sharonska100 there's pressure on me to pick up really heavy things the strongest women can't pick up - which is why I'm hired...by 99% females
It's called function
What's your point?
This show... I gotta say... kinda sucks
Its hard to take these women serious when they use their body and looks to make money and once the looks fade away they come out the woodworks with years old allegations
Profit over decency. Well said Jalen. The other issue here is societal thing. But I'm not going to get started on that.
Sounds like the cheerleaders chose to do that 🤔😂 Nobody put a gun to their head
#Faxxx - they be like "respeck us and take us serious" lol
ROB your right because of notoriety and chances of being beautiful and sexy make their chances of hitting it big.....real talk. They know why their doing it regardless of how stupid it looks when they say their being taken advantage of...
ROB the fact that they want the money so they play on that. Lol they know these broads ain't gone pass up big cheques
They literally took away their passports lol
ROB if they dont do it, they are probably fired
No one cares.
Ok, “Kat Williams” 😩😂🤣
I am a women and I think we have more than enough if almost too much respect. Men are the ones spilling their blood at war while we sit at home sipping on lemonade. Then when they come back from risking their lives we demand equal rights as them??? I may be the first woman to say this but we may be asking for too much in my opinion. It's only fair to men. Plus, we need to stop sexualizing womens breasts...
Kat Williams nah fam
Ok, "Caitlyn Jenner"
what about when the rolls are reversed?
Slugga Sativa They don't say shit as usual, women can damn near get away with any and everything without being checked on it.
Slugga Sativa because it doesn't happen
you know erthing rite ..lmao smh
rite rite you know it all cant argue with a brainiac lmao you know it all maine
all my life as a kid I've been told never to hit a girl, girls were told they shouldn't hit boys but it was still okay if they did. get out my face with this shit
Ban cheerleaders from sports.
Why is this story in 2013 coming out in 2018? Sounds like someone trying to find a quick buck.
Josue Santana that’s what I said
"Profit over decency" Some men just don't get it!
Just treat them with respect. Should be a simple thing.
I remember when this show was first pitched mike greenberg said he would never talk about anything but sports.
Why do we need Beadle’s opinion? Just relay the news and keep your opinion to yourself.
This is ESPN, not the freakin View. Get this shit outta here
Is it lack of education or implementation/execution of common sense?
Agree it’s starts at the young age, boys should be taught the right way to treat females and girls should be taught as well how to treat males. We gotta teach our kids to treat each other with respect, both male and female.
What is the right way?
Do unto others
If the football players were asked to take a topless photo, and escort celebrity women to events, they would shut up and do it. They wouldn't cry about it. Some things you don't like to do but that doesn't mean it's demeaning or degrading, it's your job. You signed up to be eye candy, you might be asked to do some eye candy shit.
Luke Mulford bruh guys topless and Girls topless is 2 entirely different things (biologically speaking). Michelle can speak about the US but in Canada this institutional degradation of women simply doesn't exist.
Just because it’s an issue in Hollywood doesn’t mean that men as a whole have a problem with respecting females. There’s always two sides to every story and someone is always playing the victim. steer away from tv and social media and look into your surroundings and take a look at how people really act.
ESPN need to stay tf out of this subject, especially with all the sexual harrassment allegations reported there
sexual harassment happens in every industry. just an FYI
How come when a guy gets his ass kicked most men tell him to suck it up and be a man about it but a woman gets looked at wrong now she needs a support group to help her get over it ?
exactly sex sells s/o to red Auerbach
The team is called the Redskins. Enough said.
I was thinking about it. It's hard to offend me, but damn "redskins"?
Jay Johnson 😂😂😂😂😂
What about the way women treat men?
Lol no beadle
Erick Mack I
Edit: There’s a lack of women who actually have respect for themselves. You want to take a topless picture to be put out to the world but expect to not be objectified? Good strategy.
Sooo many things wrong about what she said. This show is about to be off the air quick lmao
Im glad we don't have to see her on tv anymore
I don’t want women to change, but I want men to change. Tell me what’s wrong with that
“These women are objects of entertainment “ - Michelle Beadle
Cheerleader : Object of Entertainment
-Dictionary
Michelle Beadle = Over privileged annoyance
Who told her women aren't sexual objects
i love it when people with no children tell me im doing a bad job at parenting.
You notice how literally nobody cares about this chick now she's gone from ESPN?
I think this show would be better without Michelle on it...the ratings just came out and the show has actually been struggling as of late and part of that I put on her and part of it is all this commentating on issues that detract from sports. WE JUST WANT TO HEAR ABOUT SPORTS. SPORTS AND SPORTS ONLY
Love how ESPN doesn't link the original article... I would love to see the original story so I have a better understanding 💀
Beadle is such a great example of why feminism gets a bad rap. She pretends like half of the adult influences in boys lives aren't women. Last time I checked there's no shortage of public outrage at the way these old billionairs act, news flash - its not because they wren't taught how to treat women, its because when you're rich you don't need to care. She acts like the reason shes on TV isn't because the rich white men at ESPN noticed her pretty face. I can't believe Jalen has to waste his time with this nonsense when he could be doing more Jalen and Jacoby instead.
I understand why certain countries overseas don’t allow this type of bs
The exploitation of women in this country is sickening! Women deserve equality and we all should support this! If you support women you are a feminist! Women Power!
It came out that the accuser was lying and it was a shakedown...This is why jumping the gun on issues like sexual assault is a bad thing
You know what happens when I put myself in a relationship where I need the other more than they need me? (Work, women, etc...) I get taken advantage of and upset. I then recognize my fault in the matter, and change my ways to better myself. Changing other people doesn't help me be happy, because I'll always be changing shit about others while I'm staying the exact same.....
Women need to learn how to treat themselves. They are selling themselves all over the place and gets upset with men when men treat them the way they carry themselves
What's next, Sports Illustrated going to have their models complain about being objects on their next swimsuit issue? Jalen is why, boxing round ladies are use to be looked at, if people want to stop being looked like an object than stop displaying yourself as an object....Cowboys cheerleaders were famous because they were NOT the best to get their fans to cheer, they were used as beautiful women to be looked at
so are you going to lesbians not to beat up other women like glory Johnson did?
Aren't players objects for *YOUR* entertainment? They get made fun off, criticized and get dragged in fake rumors by guys like you every day, but because they get paid MILLIONS they aren't allowed to complain, it's like when you are rich people don't care about your human emotions.
Why do men have to be sexist?
FIRE THIS BROAD!!
If you don’t like what’s expected of you at your job, then just quit and get a better job. Nobody can force you to do anything. I don’t understand what’s the problem here.
HOW DO THEY KNOW WHAT THE FEELING OF BEING "PIMPED OUT" FEELS LIKE??
This is why Hammond shouldn’t get any HC job in the NBA. She will certainly cry sexual harassment even though she is lesbian.
That is awful. But despite her point, I believe cheerleading should not be in professional sports.
I wasn't paying attention when the woman was talking, for obvious reasons, but it sounds like the solution is to get rid of the cheerleaders. Anyone else agree?
Michelle definitely has a valid point. As a man with two daughters I can tell you that getting rid of women from the settings that they're in isn't going to change the fact that little boys need to be taught to be respectful and what it means to be accountable for their actions...
It's not just boys who need teaching.. girls are taught from a young age that it's okay to hit boys because they're smaller; they're taught that their emotional abuse is 'cute' and violent outburst just prove your love. There is a lot of poor education toward our youth, to say it is exclusively among one gender is absurd. Won't see that being discussed anywhere though, let alone on a show devoted to sports analysis.
It's a choice... You chose to do it! End of story. Cry to someone else. We all have jobs, where we are required to do things we do not agree with. That's where your free will comes in.. make good choices.
It's a pervasive and personal moral issue, not merely a lack of education or society problem.
If they were smart they would have all refused... obviously some were okay with it, retroactive guilt doesn't mean shit.
If they all refused the team wouldnt have done the shoot. I’d put money on it that they wouldn’t have done the shoot if they all refused the shoot
LMAO this was voluntary, btw. The cheerleaders absolutely did not have to do this
Michelle is correct!
Person A: Tries to discuss relationships in a way that holds both parties equally accountable. Person B: How do you get any dates at all? You must hate your mother.
Yes there is a lack of education of how to treat women. I'm sorry but this cheerleading story is not one of them. This is not something worth complaining about. If anything women abuse is so much more worth complaining about than anything else right now.
The cheerleaders had their passports taken away from them in a foreign country, and their bosses then told them to pose topless in front of a group of men.... how can you deny that it’s wrong? That’s beyond fucked up
Denny Kaleal well the Men didn't really do anything to them if they only had their passports taken away. It's not like they wanted abuse them I bet they liked that they where half naked in front of them. 60% of men would rather like to see a women half naked than with clothes on. pfft
A video that even slightly talks about men in a negative light gets a ton of dislikes. Why am I not surprised?
Listen a man treats a woman based on how she acts, dress and how she carry herself as a whole like we as men know what we want sex Money and power it's not our fault that y'all play yourselves out women always blame men but what about y'all and talk sneaky ass shit
ESPN has gone to the gutter. This legit has nothing to do with sports. Just because the guy plays football does not mean they should be talking about this story. Michelle Beadle go to CNN with this crap.
Every single comment section when a woman is slightly featured is poisonous. You wouldn’t walk up to these women and say this garbage to their face. Golden rule people.
Scrolled down... first twelve comments I’ve read are negative about women, attacking michelle, attacking the show, calling them whores. I knew scrolling down would be a bad idea.
I hope no ones jumping on Jalen for his comments. I don't think he was saying "cheerleading needs to die". I think he was moreso pointing out that across many areas cheerleading has been degraded to the point where its just "models that occasionally move about". If he didn't get cut off I think he was leading up to the notion that the cheerleading profession needs to be evaluated and updated.
3:10 your opinion when you were unable to make the cut
The problem is that they didn't get paid for the costa Rica trip. Get rid of cheerleaders they serve no purpose.
I hope these women file a civil suit and fight this to the very end.
Those alleged misdeeds should be examined (along with everything and everyone involved).
MaxPro not saying these women are lying or telling the truth, but why wait a whole 5 years? As soon as i touched u.s. soil again i would’ve lawyered up.
Well, what do you think of them answering that question under oath?
And what do you think about having the defendants do the same?
My point = these alleged misdeeds should be examined.
Let's get rid of Beadle!
When you decide to be a cheerleader, or work at hooters, etc, you know what you're getting yourself into. Your job is to look sexy in front of guys "sex sells". Some girls can't handle it, and I don't blame them. But don't act oblivious and whine and blame men when you are being treated as a sex symbol. You signed up for it
I cannot believe the ignorance and misogyny that I am seeing from this comment section, and in such overwhelming numbers?! well over half of you spitting out shit like 'its this kind of bullshit feminism thats ruining ESPN' and 'feminism has no place on a sports show'. Well it is literally directly involved with a sports team so shove it up your ass for one. Secondly, if they didn't talk about the kind of sexism and objectification, nothing would ever change or come into the public eye, especially as I know that a lot of avid sports fans watch a lot more sport shows than actual news (I do too). Therefore the only way these issues are gonna get to you is through sports shows like this! And lastly its not like they go on about it all the time, it was one 4 minute segment jesus! Is it that bad that they're trying to raise awareness about sexism in the workplace?! Feminism just means equality for both sexes- stop demonising 'feminist agendas'. *I'M A DUDE BTW*
Whoa Ms. Beadle please watch the racial slurs!! Can’t just be freely saying Reds**ns on TV!! “Washington Football Team” please thank you!
espn needs education training on hoe to treat men
What the hell kind of statement was that by the Washington Redskins? It doesn't even address the complaint made public in that story. Their statement could have just read..."The public is STUPID!" What the hell was that statement for? I'm a very strong supporter of women. I believe women should be coaching in the Men sports like the NBA and the NCAA...and every year we go without that being made possible is an indictment of our society and where we are with regards to women's rights and fair representation. We don't have a problem with men coaching women, but we have a problem with women coaching men. You look at some of these sports shows and even the ones with women on them, you notice the female participation is so much lower than the male participation. The women are allowed to ask the questions, but they are not really allowed to give much if any input on the topic...just ask the men the question and then sit there and shut up and look at the men as they answer and act like they are saying something profound, even when in most cases, they aren't making much sense.
I blame the media for all these problems. We talk about the objectification of women, but, nobody objectifies women more than the MEDIA...and women themselves. For example, when a female celebrity wants to get some PUBLICITY, what does she do? She goes outside and goes to the beach in a bikini, knowing she will be photographed and publicized wearing that bikini. In some cases, they post the images themselves on their social media accounts and the Associated Press will then write a story about it. Ofcourse a few stories down, you will see a story about some woman being sexually abused. Let's be realistic, when these female celebrities want to get some PR, appearing in a sexy bikini is there "go to" move. So, women will put themselves in a position to be objectified, if it benefits them...they will complain about it, if it does not benefit them. This will leave most men utterly confused. As long as there is a profit margin associated with a woman's body, the objectification of women will not stop. Like I said, the MEDIA will post a story about women being abused or mistreated by men in some way and a few stories down, there will be another article about some woman and how sexy she looks in a bikini. This is a problem that I don't really think can be fixed. We can however give women jobs and better representation in the workplace...THAT'S AN EASY FIX...if we as a society really wanted to do that. Unfortunately, there wouldn't be any rich people if there weren't any poor people...white people wouldn't feel special if black people had the same equal rights as them and men wouldn't feel powerful if women could get the same jobs as them. Good luck fixing this MESS!
2013? I don't want to hear about it now for one you're not required to do anything you have a choice and if those are some of the things they want you to do shame on them but shame on you for waiting five years to speak on it... we have to stop catering to these people in these stories that happened years ago if you were done wrong if you were harassed my heart goes out to you but if you don't speak on the matter in a timely fashion that's your choice and some say they're thinking about their careers they don't want to get blackballed well if that's more important to you you lack certain morals so at that point I can only sympathize with you so much what kind of message are we sending to young people by showing them it's okay to remain silent if speaking up is going to hinder your career I don't support that again if you are harassed or treated unfairly speak now when it happens or forever hold your peace.
too long didn't read
These comments are sickening. Michelle is attempting to speak out on behalf of her fellow women and all I see in the comment section is men attacking her and this show, ignoring the horrifying events that occurred, and flaming this video for not being sports related. Sports and society can and do shape each other. When something like this happens in the world of sports, it is absolutely necessary to address them and condemn the perpetrators. I'm ashamed for you guys that refuse to accept that social responsibility is fundamentally tied to sports, and can't fathom how you would not only ignore and chastise these people for discussing it in a 4 minute video, but actually BLAME THE WOMEN for this treatment because of their involvement in this profession. How dare you. Take a look at yourselves.
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Nobody put a gun to their head and told them to do it and so this happened in 2013 and just now saying something??? Smh
Why are we talking about something that happened in 2013...
Trucker GOD are you on the show?
2013 trip to Costa Rica and no sex was involved... her words, not mind.
Again, no sex was involved
One more time, no sec was involved.
Lastly, no sex was involved on a trip that the cheerleaders/dancers were invited to. They could have easily turn down the offer to Costa Rica.
What ever happened to a good old fashioned cheerleader saying, thank you, BUT NO THANK YOU...🤔
Oh, almost forgot to answer your question. Nope, I dont work with them.
But with out us the viewer/audience, they wouldn't have a show.
So I'm just contributing
That's why she's been fired from both shows.
To tell the truth I think that they should just get rid of cheerleaders.
I’m with you jalen ....edit it’s not a lack of education it’s a societal lack of moral fibre
Her, "Get rid of men", comment should have gotten her canned on the spot.
NICE TO SEE A SHOW WITH TWO WOMEN HOSTING AND JUST ONE GUY,JALEN GOOD LUCK HANDLING THESE 2 DIVAS,
Wait a minute, is this photo shoot readily available? I support women by buying their calendars, trinkets and stuff on Etsy.
They shouldn't have to pose nude, that has nothing to do with cheerleading