Trans/AM was good racing up to when they started using tube frame cars that had no resemblance to the street cars! Like NASCAR the Cars have no resemblance to a real car.
Everytime I watch these videos, I go into the garage and fire up both my 68 and 69 Firebirds and take them out for a spin. They're not Camaros or other popular cars, but it works for me!
Where and how i can see more this kinda races? Plz... i enjoyed it even being 25 in current era!! No aerodynamics, no drs, no hybrid nothin.. just clean and simple.. just race while listening to your sweet engine sound.. it a men's race, no electronic sys to control your car, all by your skills... Beauties!!
I was at both the 1969 and 1970 Trans Am races at Laguna Seca, where the memorable aspect of both races were the lack of _wheel to wheel racing;_ where instead, at the drop of the green flag they spread apart; with position changes taking place from the pit stops. I never saw them racing bumper-to-bumper as what's shown in this video.
WOW, does that bring back memories. I use to be a course marshal with S,C.C.A in northern Calif in the late 60's and early 70's. It was always a special race when the Trans Am & Can Am cars showed up a Laguna.
just the power and stance of these cars is enough to give you goosebumps man... the men who drove these at their peak were fearless. also the story with acid etching and the challenger wasnt the hood, but was the roof! leaned on the roof and it dented in. they were given permission by dodge to go to a local dealership and physically torch the roof off of a challenger and swap it to the 77 race car to pass inspection.
This was the golden era of auto racing these cars had no amenaties they had raw hp though and the men that drove them some of the best drivers in history
The story about the challenger being acid dipped. It was the roof that dented because it was so thin. They bought a new challenger from the dealer ship and cut the roof off and transplanted it. The commentator said hood. It’s way more dramatic if you have to cut a roof off rather than replace a hood.
I just got two very iconic 1/18 scale diecast in my collection the GMP Sam Posey Challenger and the Dan Gurney Cuda which I plan on reviewing soon when they get here
Yeah, no kidding.....I didn't care he was in last! My first car was a 64 Futura with Sprint options...tach, buckets, factory 4 speed.....man I miss that car!
I am dying to see a nascar cup race at this track as much as I love Sonoma and seeing the cars go around there this track would provide better racing it’ll be a crazy sight to see those cars go down the corkscrew side by side🔥🔥
This series should get national TV coverage instead of the boring IMSA Weather Tech with their modern PlayStation cars. Just listen to the beautiful V8 music that these cars produce.
Seriously, they pan over, talk about car colors, meanwhile the AMC moves from 3rd to 1st. That would have been the race to see. Still a good race, thanks for sharing. If I was there I probably would have done the same thing.
Same, but the shipping costs might make it hard to arrange. Personally I'd really like to see Bob Jane's ZL-1 from the Australian touring car series vs. some Trans-Am spec cars vs. that French Hemi Cuda.
The only Reason the Javelin Won was because, they were the only Factory backed team on the track. If ford had not pulled out the AMC cars would never have won. the Bud Moore cars only raced 5 races in 1971 and came real close to a win.
I watched these cars run at laguna seca in 68 through the end of the old trans am series. I was a kid. Any car guy should go to car week in Monterey which includes the historic's at laguna seca.
Aurthur Robison I’m only 11 min in so idk if I’ll catch one farther in but yea that’s what I was thinking! Was hoping to see one in here! Gotta love the trans am cougars🔥
@joe, I am sure Butler builds good motors, but the Pontiac motor was built from original RAM-IV heads and block, assembled by a shop in California with advice from Tom Nell, former Pontiac engineer who built the original motors in 1971. Before Pontiac built the SD-455 in 1973-1974, they built a special run of blocks for NASCAR that featured a provision for an internal dry sump. The car has one of those.
SCCA racing; I Daniel like 2012 mustang to do. Way I'd set, 302 boss swap motor 429: Exhaust 1•3/4 long Tires Rear 245/50r18 Front 225/50r18 Otherwise 3:73 gear Factory six manual transmission Heart
when. you race. a camaro or mustang.....the power slide like a sprint car. is how you put the car through the turn.....a controled slip...power on......but you dont over do it.......its. an art....... the color. is sublime...lime......like grovy. grrape
and yet they win most of these nostalgic races weird no factory backing they all pulled out of racing once the javelins started wining and right back in when they quit making javelins weird
Watching the grey gto lurking in the back ground was pretty epic, I know these are tuned cars but realistically it should have gotten destroyed on a track 🥴
A 6 cylinder Torana would probably spank them just like it spanked the V8 Falcons. There's some BMW CSLs that those cars sometimes compete with that do quite well and there's a Skyline C10 with a built L28 (IIRC) that laps just as fast as Trans-Am and IMSA GTO cars of the era, so I think it's fair to say you could win against those cars with a 6 cylinder. Personally I'd feel a lot more accomplished beating 5000cc cars in my 2800cc Skyline than finishing behind a Bimmer or a Nissan in my 5000cc car.
Cant compare new and old cars, like apples and oranges. Plus, most people I know, would rather have an ol skool car. Just the collectivity factor alone, you cant compare.
These announcers pretend this is a real race. This is an exhibition of Trans Am cars at speed. Sure they're pushing it, but taking no chances in those expensive and irreplaceable historical cars.
@@zeroonezerozero5397 Could, but they don't. This series wouldn't allow your clone to run, although there's others that would. This series is for exhibiting historic TA cars, not just a racing series based around an old rulebook.
Trans Am should be on every weekend instead of NASCAR
Facts
of course, I know there's technique in NASCAR racing but it's boring to watch.
Trans Am gets really intense
Seldom do I watch NASCAR, endless caution laps. Bowling is more exciting!
NASCAR is garbage now. Can't even stand watching it anymore
Trans/AM was good racing up to when they started using tube frame cars that had no resemblance to the street cars! Like NASCAR the Cars have no resemblance to a real car.
Just pure racing. Where driving matters more than how much tech your car has. Love love love this!
Gotta love the liveries of these American classics. Absolutely gorgeous.
I just can’t get over how cool Javelin’s look
Nothing, I mean nothing, is prettier than watching (and hearing) these classics race.
Everytime I watch these videos, I go into the garage and fire up both my 68 and 69 Firebirds and take them out for a spin. They're not Camaros or other popular cars, but it works for me!
Those are the best year of the firebird
Everything else sucks.
68 is the best looking of them all
do you pull yer pud too ?
Where and how i can see more this kinda races? Plz... i enjoyed it even being 25 in current era!! No aerodynamics, no drs, no hybrid nothin.. just clean and simple.. just race while listening to your sweet engine sound.. it a men's race, no electronic sys to control your car, all by your skills...
Beauties!!
I really, really love AMC Javelins, my dad has one 73 when i was child. Can u imagine? Good times, better times.
Trans Am racing is the best of the best. My Favorite!
X2
You gotta love the car culture!
i know right
Yes we all hAte each other's brands
Commenting on every video still hasn’t got you views, huh
JRC Automotive at least their channel has content .
love that javelin.
same, not even an american but seeing that rare legend being flogged always gives me a smile.
I was bitten by the javelin bug when I was 10, I now have a 69 1/2 BBB JAV, and a 70 Donahue.
selling both with with a garage full parts.
That car is the reason I bought a '71 Javelin AMX 401, well the availability of the 401 in a T/A style car.
I was at both the 1969 and 1970 Trans Am races at Laguna Seca, where the memorable aspect of both races were the lack of _wheel to wheel racing;_ where instead, at the drop of the green flag they spread apart; with position changes taking place from the pit stops. I never saw them racing bumper-to-bumper as what's shown in this video.
WOW, does that bring back memories. I use to be a course marshal with S,C.C.A in northern Calif in the late 60's and early 70's. It was always a special race when the Trans Am & Can Am cars showed up a Laguna.
Love it when the javelin shows it's colors at the track and puts the hammer down on the rest!
Thank goodness I’ve found this. Put this on TV and I’ll watch every weekend
Motor Trend Channel First time in many years I've missed Historic Trasn-Am at Laguna. Thanks for bringing it to us!
Just a blast to watch and the stroll down memory lane is incredibly cool. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing this
just the power and stance of these cars is enough to give you goosebumps man... the men who drove these at their peak were fearless. also the story with acid etching and the challenger wasnt the hood, but was the roof! leaned on the roof and it dented in. they were given permission by dodge to go to a local dealership and physically torch the roof off of a challenger and swap it to the 77 race car to pass inspection.
Beautiful machines all.
Love these cars. All my era and all with that V8 sound that I remember from 60s - 70s.
This was the golden era of auto racing these cars had no amenaties they had raw hp though and the men that drove them some of the best drivers in history
I’m 61 and I still have the number 6 javelin A/FX SLOT car. Exactly the same car.
Awesome thanks
have a great time
Love this track in games, one day love to race on it
JackieChan Foo Dude Laguna Seca might be the most legendary track in America, outside of Daytona of course. Love the track so much.
All very cool cars, my favorite has to be the dz 302 69 z/28s though. Great video!
i grew up going to stafford speedway and heard mike joy announce alot of races but this is first time i seen him in a car. very cool
This is so cool
The story about the challenger being acid dipped. It was the roof that dented because it was so thin. They bought a new challenger from the dealer ship and cut the roof off and transplanted it. The commentator said hood. It’s way more dramatic if you have to cut a roof off rather than replace a hood.
love that camaro!!
loving the back and forth of the yellow camaro and orange mustang
Bubbled fender javs are beautiful. Flat fenders look classy though.
The Javelins never took top billing on straight runs next to the big 3, but out handled them.
The SOUND🖤
I just got two very iconic 1/18 scale diecast in my collection the GMP Sam Posey Challenger and the Dan Gurney Cuda which I plan on reviewing soon when they get here
I'm a BIG 3 fan but I wish AMC was still in business
Sweet. Would have loved some shots of the Falcon though.
Yeah, no kidding.....I didn't care he was in last!
My first car was a 64 Futura with Sprint options...tach, buckets, factory 4 speed.....man I miss that car!
I am dying to see a nascar cup race at this track as much as I love Sonoma and seeing the cars go around there this track would provide better racing it’ll be a crazy sight to see those cars go down the corkscrew side by side🔥🔥
This series should get national TV coverage instead of the boring IMSA Weather Tech with their modern PlayStation cars.
Just listen to the beautiful V8 music that these cars produce.
Nothing like that sound, TJ. They can have their turbocharged 4, and 6 sillywinders. Make mine a V-8.
That Pontiac rocks!!!
Saw these guys at Sonoma for Indy weekend. Easily the best racing of the weekend! Except maybe for Rossi's charge from the backfield...
greetings from *Lithuania*
gotta love the stang black with gold trim
Glad to see Mike Joy having fun
That’s super fun
I did not know Mike Joy races. You go brother. Have a good one
Ken. Squire and Mike Joy and Dan Jiggits commentated a 500 gp race that Rainy won at that track , fantastic
Seriously, they pan over, talk about car colors, meanwhile the AMC moves from 3rd to 1st. That would have been the race to see.
Still a good race, thanks for sharing. If I was there I probably would have done the same thing.
When are you going to post group 6B ? Thanks
They were Acid Dipping Drag cars in the Early 1960's
What does that means?
beautiful old iron man i miss those days
GT Legends
I would like to see some of these cars compete in the vintage races in Europe
Same, but the shipping costs might make it hard to arrange.
Personally I'd really like to see Bob Jane's ZL-1 from the Australian touring car series vs. some Trans-Am spec cars vs. that French Hemi Cuda.
Yes good
That javelin man... its just too beautiful, would love to own one.
Its the better pony car over the Camaro and Mustang IMO
The only Reason the Javelin Won was because, they were the only Factory backed team on the track. If ford had not pulled out the AMC cars would never have won. the Bud Moore cars only raced 5 races in 1971 and came real close to a win.
Is this an annual event?
Does anyone know where you can find any information on the suspension setup these cars ran? I would really like to use the modifications they ran.
Einfach grandios
* * * HOW DO I FIND THE DRIVERS LIST FOR THIS RACE ? ? ? * * *
i was wanting to look up the "miller" lol
This is as good as racing gets including NASCAR, F1, and Indy.
They are time machines
laguna seca?
sweet rides good to see a racing scene for these cars not just show cars
The ghost of AMX... all over again.....
I watched these cars run at laguna seca in 68 through the end of the old trans am series. I was a kid. Any car guy should go to car week in Monterey which includes the historic's at laguna seca.
That Falcon was gainin on em !
I wanna see modern muscle cars, stock. Duke it out.
Awww, no Trans Am Cougars
yes I believe therethere were three bud moore powered cougars
Hush
I’m a 72 Elco guy🤷🏽♂️
Aurthur Robison I’m only 11 min in so idk if I’ll catch one farther in but yea that’s what I was thinking! Was hoping to see one in here! Gotta love the trans am cougars🔥
Nobody is commenting on the "Grey Ghost". Wonder if it's running a Butler built motor?
@joe, I am sure Butler builds good motors, but the Pontiac motor was built from original RAM-IV heads and block, assembled by a shop in California with advice from Tom Nell, former Pontiac engineer who built the original motors in 1971. Before Pontiac built the SD-455 in 1973-1974, they built a special run of blocks for NASCAR that featured a provision for an internal dry sump. The car has one of those.
The times when AMC was king!
glorified Rambler
@@FishNFoolLures And yet it still won, doesn't say much for the others does it?
I think they should at least update the Brakes in most of these vintage cars for safety or make them “right”
Braking was always a issue maybe
Very few cars in American race history as recognizable as the red, white & blue Javelins.
SCCA racing;
I Daniel like 2012 mustang to do.
Way I'd set, 302 boss swap motor 429:
Exhaust 1•3/4 long
Tires
Rear 245/50r18
Front 225/50r18
Otherwise 3:73 gear
Factory six manual transmission
Heart
Sweet.......v8 sound
THE GRAY GHOST!!
when. you race. a camaro or mustang.....the power slide like a sprint car. is how you put the car
through the turn.....a controled slip...power on......but you dont over do it.......its. an art.......
the color. is sublime...lime......like grovy. grrape
Mike Joy my man.
Am I the only one druling over that amc javelin's body lines
Ah man I wish I could get my hands on a javelin
Did anyone notice the AMC won the race?
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2:08 find somebody who looks at you the way Chad Raynal looks at Mike Joy.
If only the public embraced the wide wheels/tires on all 4 corners back when these were originally raced instead of the narrow wheels/tires...
Indi makes aluminum heads. I have a pile of AMC heads.
wasnt the pensky 06 sonoco. the winning est....
No 63 Falcon , only the 65.
assuming horsepower is pretty close to original? Check out touring car masters from Australia.. up to 700hp
yes,& all the commodores with ford 9" diffs.....
I skipped out on nascar for this
i bet none are automatic trans ?
80 percent of the drivers now couldn't even drive the old gear jammers cars.
sad but racing a manual is a lost art!
Them two split bumper 1970 camaro are
The only "manufacturer " racing in 71 was AMC.
and yet they win most of these nostalgic races weird no factory backing they all pulled out of racing once the javelins started wining and right back in when they quit making javelins weird
Watching the grey gto lurking in the back ground was pretty epic, I know these are tuned cars but realistically it should have gotten destroyed on a track 🥴
I thought it was Mazda Raceway
Two javs for 30k is a good deal then.
Did I see a nova?
@@TheInkPitOx Agreed, I love Mustangs and Camaros, but after a million or so the change is welcome.
Go Ford....Go!!!!👍🇺🇸💪
i saw a Mustang and i ... i jizzed in my pants!
if you like this type of racing check the australian touring car masters, many races 40 cars racing harder that these guys
GTO was on the go!!!
Imagine if someone brought a v6 anything there
caleb wampler these cars would be outclassed by modern technology. V8’s are being phased out by turbocharged Six cylinder engines for a good reason.
A 6 cylinder Torana would probably spank them just like it spanked the V8 Falcons.
There's some BMW CSLs that those cars sometimes compete with that do quite well and there's a Skyline C10 with a built L28 (IIRC) that laps just as fast as Trans-Am and IMSA GTO cars of the era, so I think it's fair to say you could win against those cars with a 6 cylinder.
Personally I'd feel a lot more accomplished beating 5000cc cars in my 2800cc Skyline than finishing behind a Bimmer or a Nissan in my 5000cc car.
Cant compare new and old cars, like apples and oranges. Plus, most people I know, would rather have an ol skool car. Just the collectivity factor alone, you cant compare.
These announcers pretend this is a real race. This is an exhibition of Trans Am cars at speed. Sure they're pushing it, but taking no chances in those expensive and irreplaceable historical cars.
They could build clone cars and race them hard.
@@zeroonezerozero5397
Could, but they don't. This series wouldn't allow your clone to run, although there's others that would. This series is for exhibiting historic TA cars, not just a racing series based around an old rulebook.