The second film completely forgot what made the first one so good. The first movie was far more character driven and when you remove all of the good characters and replace them with less than generic robot action then of course nobody cares.
I didn’t think the two movies were that bad. The second was ok, but there were some things that felt unnecessary. Overall, it does suck this franchise won’t get a proper sendoff. 😢
As an Eva fan I'm grateful for that, because they only ripped only ripped off the giant mecha, completely missed what the franchise is about and yet continued to tain the name,
I think I would have liked a prequel would have worked better than a sequel. Maybe Idris Elba could come back as the main character and it would be about the early days of the monster war.
I've always felt the idea that there had to be two pilots, in sync, to pilot the Jaegers hard to accept. Otherwise, I was a fan of the original and anime.
Unlike Uprising's clusterf*ck of mistakes , like killing off Mako Mori. The animated series "Pacific Rim: The Black" did a great job expanding the lore on someone else's perspective and ignoring the sequel ♥️👌
The fact that they were thinking about a whole cinematic universe with spin offs and all kinds of other crap was part of the problen. Slow down and FOCUS on the project you are currently on.
Charlie's comments regarding the director change can also be attributed to another franchise that del Toro unfortunately stepped away from, Hellboy, it also suffered in development hell which led to it being rebooted altogether. This franchise had so much potential but it suffered from too many visions colliding.
Simple movie makes big at the box office Hollywood wants a sequel we see all the time. Barbie makes a billion we need a sequel regardless if it doesn't make sense
I had such high hopes for Uprising, but they just failed to capitalize on the momentum of the original. Story was too scattered, the actors were all largely unknown, just not enough left in the sequel to go on. Great vid and commentary.
Well given the recent overall slump in movies as a whole i don't see why they would not go ahead and give it a shot, it's just as likely to be successful as anything else they are putting out.
I haven't seen these movies. But they look pretty good. I think they should be finished with the third. They could fight with Precursors on their planet,on their field. Like John Boyega said. Pacific Rim 3 could be really cool. They should make it. Good video
My friends dad had a friend who was working on pacific rim 3 script and when they scrapped the film my friends dad gave my friend the Pacific Rim 3 script and my friend read the whole thing and told me the designs of the Jaegers
I think its Guillermo del Toro who made the huge difference. I knew PR 2 was going to be a disaster when I heard Guillermo del Toro is missing in the group.
What did you expect. This was supposed to be the live action Evangelion, though Hideaki Anno hated the script & direction so much, he pulled the intellectual away. Hollywood had to rework the movie to be different enough to avoid a lawsuit. Americanized IPs & franchises are always killed…
@@jdplays809 I Have the Will and creativity but my main issue is when I write stories I self doubt myself too much (Aka I have very little self-confidence) but I'm trying to improve
Idk I know it’s all ready out there but I feel like it wouldn’t be a bad idea to put jeagers in the monsterverse we’ve seen what mechsgodzilla can do why not incorporate them in their not make it pacific rim but something new and different it be cool to see jeagers go up against the titans now obviously they lose to Godzilla and he would not even team up with them but it be an interesting idea
People don't want a sequel to the original. They want a prequel. A sequel has no basis to exist, but many prequels can be spawned from all the untouched material.
We need a proper Pacific Rim 2 under Guillermo del Toro, not the shitshow that was Uprising. As is, Pacific Rim 3 will never be a thing if the second one is still Uprising. No shade to Steven S. DeKnight and cast of Uprising, but really, it lacked the spirit of the first film.
when they take the robot mechs to the alien monster world at one point they need to mix the human tech with the monster tech making new monster fighting robots. new weapons and robot parts.
If they did this then it would be best to do it as ether a limited series (13-26 episodes, not that 6 episode crap) or a mini-series. Build on the anime, and if possible eventually try to work in Uprising (best to have everything work toward your ultimate plot than to have this random this matters but not that) and then starts off after Uprising on that moving to the pre-curser's world. Even the aspect of the future humans would be great, and an interesting twist. I don't think this will work as a movie, but it could work on the small screen. And if it does well enough, then maybe the climax could be on the big screen. Trek did it.
no one can use " time in between movies" as an excuse... we waited 13 YEARS for avatar way of the water....avatar is still the #1 best selling movie & way of the water currently sits at #3 #2 is avengers end game if anyone was wondering.
If Pacific Rim "2" would happen i want it to focus on the Start of the Jaeger Program and it begins with Brawler Yukon and all of the Jaegers are all Mark 1's
If they just got rid of the stupid kids and made the Jaegers and Kaiju move slower( as well as giving them unique designs) maybe it would have succeeded. Oh well. Pacific Rim fell so the Monsterverse could rise
Second one sucked. I liked the first one. They always consider anything less than a billion at the box office a failure. Its like all they want to do anymore is make summer block buster all year long
plase make in PACIFIC RIM future lots of new aliens races who are most powerful than kaiju races and theiy can t destroy entire universes and plase make cosmic enitties who can t destroy entire multiverses and create universes and plase make evil cosmic enitities who can t destroy entire universes and multiverses
Simple write a good script instead of crap....same thing happened to Hell Boy....the got rid of Del Torro....Pacific Rim Black was good...use that direction.
ok skip the "pacific rim uprising didn't exist" joke. I really DO NOT want a third film following up after uprising, it was so horrible. we WANT a remake of the sequel or a prequel to the first movie
The only good part was when that cat 5 roars and 2 4s but we saw a Yeager getting dropped off in the first fight with obsidian fury the thing was wings and when the drones came he was 1v2ing
tl;dr : robots don't have the same weight, fergot / killed off beloved caracters without any valid reason the new main caracters are awefull the story is all over the place in terms of vision did i mension that the new mechs don't feel like giant hulking machines like the first movie?
there are those masculine, tough matured dudes and hot girls, and adult dramas in previous movie. then here bunch of kids and comedians with unrealistic and pointless dramas, also the storyline is more confusing rather than mysterious.
Uprising was garbage because they had to appease the Chinese investors and edit the story with an unnatural plot where they had to make the Chinese character the hero. If the Chinese investors stayed out of the story making and let Del Toro do his magic, it would have been an awesome movie, just like Pacific Rim 1
The writing for the second movie was horrible, plus the formula of nothing new on the second movie. It's like Independence Day, great initial movie horrible second movie. The third script has to go to the Precursor world, has to should our own biological kaijus with mechs, should have a third entity - just to have the chaotic behavior of 3 bodies problem - yeah I know, not used in the Physics way. Or maybe it was?? The time twist is dumb, not necessary and very constraining. Better to go "vague universe". Is it our's, another?, alternate? Future? Past?
Would you like to see more Pacific Rim?
yES
The second film completely forgot what made the first one so good. The first movie was far more character driven and when you remove all of the good characters and replace them with less than generic robot action then of course nobody cares.
Yes
Yes
Hell YEAH!
Pacific Rim had so much potential to be a great franchise!😞
Pacific Rim 3? I'm still here waiting for the first sequel. Too bad there isn't one.
Pacific Rim is one of my favourite films. When I realised Charlie Hunnam wasn’t in the second film, I chose not to see it in the cinema.
You did the right thing because uprising was dumpster water
@@Mlption god
And I'm glad I didn't because that movie sucked.
Yeah they made me hate everything about the second one
If a Pacific rim 3 did happen, I think it would have to take place after Pacific Rim: The Black
How come? They never made a pacific rim 2?
@@Randommf-xg6twcorrect mate😅
they should make a prequel about marshal Pentecost, instead.
The first film was great
"We'll never get to see a Pacific Rim 3."
That would imply that there was a Pacific Rim 2.
The animated Pacific rim show on netflix is actually good
I didn’t think the two movies were that bad. The second was ok, but there were some things that felt unnecessary. Overall, it does suck this franchise won’t get a proper sendoff. 😢
This is the closest thing we get from getting live-action Eva or any Mecha genre from Japan. What a shame!
agree
As an Eva fan I'm grateful for that, because they only ripped only ripped off the giant mecha, completely missed what the franchise is about and yet continued to tain the name,
There will be a day when Hollywood will notice it is a great franchise to work on
Pacific Rim 3? When did they make a sequel?
Shortly after the first, has john boyaga...
I think I would have liked a prequel would have worked better than a sequel. Maybe Idris Elba could come back as the main character and it would be about the early days of the monster war.
I've always felt the idea that there had to be two pilots, in sync, to pilot the Jaegers hard to accept. Otherwise, I was a fan of the original and anime.
Unlike Uprising's clusterf*ck of mistakes , like killing off Mako Mori.
The animated series "Pacific Rim: The Black" did a great job expanding the lore on someone else's perspective and ignoring the sequel ♥️👌
I will like to see pacific rim 3
Too bad for first one because it is very good movie
Second movie is not very good but is not bad at all
"I DIG GIANT ROBOTS...YOU DIG GIANT ROBOTS...CHICKS DIG GIANT ROBOTS......(guitar riff)....NICE!"
The fact that they were thinking about a whole cinematic universe with spin offs and all kinds of other crap was part of the problen. Slow down and FOCUS on the project you are currently on.
Charlie's comments regarding the director change can also be attributed to another franchise that del Toro unfortunately stepped away from, Hellboy, it also suffered in development hell which led to it being rebooted altogether.
This franchise had so much potential but it suffered from too many visions colliding.
Yeah you are right the chances of pacific rim 3 coming out is unlikely and I don’t see the director changing his mind
I didn't have high hopes for uprising but please release pacific rim 3 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I never saw Uprising, but from what I've read of the plot I'm glad I didn't.
It's good you should watch it
I dunno. Doesn't it kinda undermine some things in the original?@@ASTRO3306
Hey Uprising is a good movie not as good as the original but it's a good movie
i actually enjoyed the first two
I think they should have ended with the first one.
And they should've killed off the main dude
There should have been a prequel, not a sequel
Simple movie makes big at the box office Hollywood wants a sequel we see all the time. Barbie makes a billion we need a sequel regardless if it doesn't make sense
I liked the second movie
@@puspashreedas8005 he’s right
The first movie was ahead of its time
I had such high hopes for Uprising, but they just failed to capitalize on the momentum of the original. Story was too scattered, the actors were all largely unknown, just not enough left in the sequel to go on.
Great vid and commentary.
All battles should taken at night
Well given the recent overall slump in movies as a whole i don't see why they would not go ahead and give it a shot, it's just as likely to be successful as anything else they are putting out.
he got the Giant Kaiju Right, but the Super Size Sci-Fi Robot nope there Called Mechs Giant Size Mechs 🤘🏻🤣
I watched it last night and thought it was great. I never even had the chance to see in theaters.
Just 3 months later and you're proven wrong by the teaser trailer to PR3. :D
Uhhh, no?
@@jalfieb6714 Huh? But I just saw ... oooookay, can't find it again - I obviously fell for a fake trailer. oO
My bad! :D
@@commanderkruge I respect your ability to understand your faults, Godspeed soldier
@@jalfieb6714 Q'apla!
I want this franchise back to live again
Damn, i really enjoyed it 😢
we need more rim definitly
I haven't seen these movies. But they look pretty good. I think they should be finished with the third. They could fight with Precursors on their planet,on their field. Like John Boyega said. Pacific Rim 3 could be really cool. They should make it. Good video
My friends dad had a friend who was working on pacific rim 3 script and when they scrapped the film my friends dad gave my friend the Pacific Rim 3 script and my friend read the whole thing and told me the designs of the Jaegers
I think its Guillermo del Toro who made the huge difference. I knew PR 2 was going to be a disaster when I heard Guillermo del Toro is missing in the group.
Great movies
What did you expect. This was supposed to be the live action Evangelion, though Hideaki Anno hated the script & direction so much, he pulled the intellectual away. Hollywood had to rework the movie to be different enough to avoid a lawsuit. Americanized IPs & franchises are always killed…
Me 20 years later if there isn't a PR3
"Fine,I'll do it myself"
(Yes I will not kidding)
r u pursuing directing? or the film industry?
@@jdplays809 Directing (Hopefully)
@@TheJawadAbdullah. Oh really do u have any qualifications
@@jdplays809 I Have the Will and creativity but my main issue is when I write stories I self doubt myself too much (Aka I have very little self-confidence) but I'm trying to improve
@@TheJawadAbdullah. Oh can I see some of your stories?
Idk I know it’s all ready out there but I feel like it wouldn’t be a bad idea to put jeagers in the monsterverse we’ve seen what mechsgodzilla can do why not incorporate them in their not make it pacific rim but something new and different it be cool to see jeagers go up against the titans now obviously they lose to Godzilla and he would not even team up with them but it be an interesting idea
They can only go back in time
Just make a staker pentacost origin film where the era of mk1-3 jaegers
If they made it into a 4 season show then a movie
I and true fans will wait 4 part 3 cause ive been waitin 4 avatar n we jus got part 2 n 3,4,5 are commin
in uprising its like we went from 1970 to 2050
itll never be the same as the first movie
There makeing one now
I want to see a PR movie called 'Legacy' were it covers history of Mark-1 Jaegers
I mean so far this doesnt seem to be aging well but, hopefully we'll get a 3rd movie this 2025
How about a prequel, uprising fades to even more to obscureness then contiue the franchise. Just an idea
Pacific rim 2 was straight up power rangers.
Please dont make anymore Power Ranger style Pacific Rim!
We need to forget about pacific rim uprising get guillermo del toro back and just let him work.
We didn't really need a second let's be honest
People don't want a sequel to the original. They want a prequel. A sequel has no basis to exist, but many prequels can be spawned from all the untouched material.
I liked pacific rim part 1. It was new and different. Guillermo del toro, the actors were all good. Part 2 just wasnt as good.
We need a proper Pacific Rim 2 under Guillermo del Toro, not the shitshow that was Uprising. As is, Pacific Rim 3 will never be a thing if the second one is still Uprising. No shade to Steven S. DeKnight and cast of Uprising, but really, it lacked the spirit of the first film.
when they take the robot mechs to the alien monster world at one point they need to mix the human tech with the monster tech making new monster fighting robots. new weapons and robot parts.
Denis Villeneuve would be good director for this.
Don't you mean the real reason we'll never got to se pacific rim 2" ? Cuz i don't recall theres ever the second film
There was a second on
Google it ,it wasn't as good as the first one
@@jimtaylor6930he’s joking….
Steven S DeKnight. I have never hated a man more in my life as him
So where Pacific Rim 3 & Pacific Rim the Black s3 so where release yet i hope new Jaeger & Kaiju return !!
The anime was nice, but I feel it was cut short.
Yeah but it was not as bad as the ending in Godzilla earth 3 where they killed off the main character for no reason
Hollywood, where a 200% return on investment over opening weekend is seen as an unmitigated failure.
imagine if they take the war to the aliens
Why kill mako!?!?
I honestly don't think Pacific Rim needed a sequel.
DeKnight's direction was very weak, especially in comparison to Del Toro. DeKnight didn't seem to even know what to do with the franchise at all.
it just came our
If they did this then it would be best to do it as ether a limited series (13-26 episodes, not that 6 episode crap) or a mini-series. Build on the anime, and if possible eventually try to work in Uprising (best to have everything work toward your ultimate plot than to have this random this matters but not that) and then starts off after Uprising on that moving to the pre-curser's world. Even the aspect of the future humans would be great, and an interesting twist. I don't think this will work as a movie, but it could work on the small screen. And if it does well enough, then maybe the climax could be on the big screen. Trek did it.
which 6 episode crap ur talking abt bro? o_O
@@jdplays809 Have you seen what Disney has been doing with their so called limited series?
no one can use " time in between movies" as an excuse...
we waited 13 YEARS for avatar way of the water....avatar is still the #1 best selling movie & way of the water currently sits at #3
#2 is avengers end game if anyone was wondering.
there a trailer
We can get an animated version
There is already an animated one on Netflix
@@AutumnOwl35 I'm aware. I'm talking about Part 3 to go with the movies
If Pacific Rim "2" would happen i want it to focus on the Start of the Jaeger Program and it begins with Brawler Yukon and all of the Jaegers are all Mark 1's
2 happen google it
I heard that the first jaeger was the biggest one, like VERY BIG.
If they just got rid of the stupid kids and made the Jaegers and Kaiju move slower( as well as giving them unique designs) maybe it would have succeeded. Oh well. Pacific Rim fell so the Monsterverse could rise
Second one sucked. I liked the first one. They always consider anything less than a billion at the box office a failure. Its like all they want to do anymore is make summer block buster all year long
3? You mean 2?
plase make in PACIFIC RIM future lots of new aliens races who are most powerful than kaiju races and theiy can t destroy entire universes and plase make cosmic enitties who can t destroy entire multiverses and create universes and plase make evil cosmic enitities who can t destroy entire universes and multiverses
I want to see Pacific Rim 3 only directed by giermo not the other guy
Somthing they should do is reboot the series
Simple write a good script instead of crap....same thing happened to Hell Boy....the got rid of Del Torro....Pacific Rim Black was good...use that direction.
No make pacific rim 3 End Of War happen do it or else no monsterverse crossover and that's final
EnJoyed the first one.
Err... maybe because they killed off a main character, and had a really crap story that PR2 failed. That's why we'll not see a 3rd
I’ll be honest I didn’t like the fact that the anime included Titan shifting, I feel like it doesn’t quite fit in with the movies
it only happened 2 times bro
Pacific rim uprising is such a failure, it disgusted me, it is a monument of shame of modern movie industry.
Because they moved studios as Warner and de toro did a much better job.
ok skip the "pacific rim uprising didn't exist" joke. I really DO NOT want a third film following up after uprising, it was so horrible. we WANT a remake of the sequel or a prequel to the first movie
Uprising was Garbage
The only good part was when that cat 5 roars and 2 4s but we saw a Yeager getting dropped off in the first fight with obsidian fury the thing was wings and when the drones came he was 1v2ing
oh no, we dont need another star wats sequels
tl;dr :
robots don't have the same weight,
fergot / killed off beloved caracters without any valid reason
the new main caracters are awefull
the story is all over the place in terms of vision
did i mension that the new mechs don't feel like giant hulking machines like the first movie?
there are those masculine, tough matured dudes and hot girls, and adult dramas in previous movie. then here bunch of kids and comedians with unrealistic and pointless dramas, also the storyline is more confusing rather than mysterious.
It's for the best after the trash that was the sequel
That Pacific Rim "anime" art style was straight cancer.
I would love to see a crossover of pacific rim and Atlantic rim
Uprising was garbage because they had to appease the Chinese investors and edit the story with an unnatural plot where they had to make the Chinese character the hero.
If the Chinese investors stayed out of the story making and let Del Toro do his magic, it would have been an awesome movie, just like Pacific Rim 1
The writing for the second movie was horrible, plus the formula of nothing new on the second movie.
It's like Independence Day, great initial movie horrible second movie.
The third script has to go to the Precursor world, has to should our own biological kaijus with mechs, should have a third entity - just to have the chaotic behavior of 3 bodies problem - yeah I know, not used in the Physics way. Or maybe it was??
The time twist is dumb, not necessary and very constraining. Better to go "vague universe". Is it our's, another?, alternate? Future? Past?
Director, cast, and storyline all failed together
Pacific rim 2 does not exist for me.