Tucker & Sherrard Texas Confederate Revolver
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The Tucker & Sherrard (and later Sherrard & Clark) is one of the more interesting Texas Confederate revolvers. The company initially was granted a contract with the Texas state government to provide 100 revolvers per month at $50 each, and took a total of $10,000 of investment capital from the state to start up their operation. However, aside from a few initial samples they never managed to deliver any guns to the state.
What appears to have been happening was that they were making guns, but selling them out the back door to private individuals, because the guns would easily bring $100 on the open market thanks to the arms shortages of the Confederacy. In the meantime, the company was delivering a whole series of excuses to Texas about why there were no deliveries - unavailable materials, conscripted workers, and fears of national CSA agents confiscating the guns. Texas finally had enough of this, and dissolved the contract, requiring the company to repay its seed capital with interest. Thanks to the serious inflation plaguing the Confederate currency, though, the repaid amount was only worth about half of its initial value.
This particular Tucker & Sherrard is one of the "low hammer" models, which handles much better than a standard Dragoon pattern revolver. Only three of these are known to exist (serial numbers 52, 54, and 56), and they seem to have been an experiment by the company for purposes unknown.
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The Confederate war department ate my homework.
Underrated comment!
Meaning what?
In high school a girl actually said her dog peed on her homework
@@jackdundon2261 in elementary my dog actually ate my homework
@@DafodilWorkshopProductions in high school a girl said her dog actually PEED on her homework... she was know for the truth, but?
While I find the guns you showcase very interesting it is the history, the stories of those behind the guns, that really makes this channel so fascinating. This is by far my favorite firearms channel on TH-cam.
I suspect that the reason why these revolvers used Roman Numerals on the serial numbers for the screw heads was likely due to the fact that marking Arabic numeral (Modern Numbers) onto rounded surfaces such as that, with what appears to have been a file, is very difficult. Whereas the more angular shapes of Roman Numerals are very easy to scratch into surfaces.
I was expecting another Colt "Knock-off", But the back story of war time opportunism really had me "glued"!
the ORIGINAL kickstarter scam
There was another that was even worse he did a video on it. Brass frame with a top strap. Terrible workmanship and they only had 15 made by the dead line for 4000 and only half worked. They scammed them for lots of startup $ many times what these guys did
$50 in 1865 would be about $780 today.
+JohnLeePedimore -- Well those were confederate dollars, so they'd be worth $0 today at a bank.
Thomas Mobley I hate the bank.They wouldn't take my Chuck E. Cheese tokens either.
Thomas Mobley and a lot more as a collectible.
More like $4500, if you're going off the price of gold.
$50 is 2.5oz of gold.
Remember that the economics of the time would be completely distorted by the embargo and blockades of the southern states by the Union navy.
$115,000 for a revolver you probably can't shoot...
I wish I had one.
Quite a story behind this gun!
I almost thought they'd wind up having sold under-the-table to Union officers.
My dad grew up behind where their factory had been. In the 1920's he and other kids would scavage pistol parts from there. He said there were enough parts thrown out to make hundreds of pistols. Interesting stuff.
Did him or anyone make their own makeshift guns?
Fred P..... I am interested in visiting this site. Can you help?
@@dr.johnpaladinshow9747 I mean it was almost a hundred years ago I doubt there's anything left
I've been enjoying black powder revolvers for a few years and i'm excited to you see covering these unique examples!
Too bad more revolvers of the period weren't fitted with that style of hammer. Something I've always liked about the Le Mat's as well. Perhaps one of the current replica makers will add a Tucker & Sherrard to their line? Thanks Ian!
I hope so
After this video I am about to make a low spur hammer for my Dragoon!
@@453421abcdefg12345 How's the project going?
@@korbetthein3072 Well, it all came out OK, but you have to keep the spur a bit higher as it give a poke when you shoot. Good luck!
If there's anything I've noticed about gun design trends is that gun designers are stubborn and only do things that other gun designers have done in the past.
Ian, I just now stumbled across this video (I try to get caught up on older ones in between the new uploads). This is fascinating! I love hearing about the history and provenance of these firearms, and the Civil War / cap and ball is one area I especially enjoy. Thanks for the great work!!!
The reason the cylinder is 1/4 inch shorter than the Colt is because they figured out they could make a stronger and easier gun without having to cut out the area that Colt had to allow the loader to load the bullets in the gun. 1?4 inch is all it took to allow clearance for a .44 caliber ball to be placed into the cylinder chamber and then loaded with the lever.
I always wonder on guns like this when they say it's like one of only three known surviving copies, where did the others go? How many are in someones collection and they think it's just some regular cap and ball revolver, or any firearm really, or how many are sitting forgotten in some box up in the attic, ect. Not realizing that it's something a little unique.
Ian: "I think story behind these is quite interesting..." Me: upvotes
I upvote when any of Ian's videos start.
"...Crockett, not Davy Crockett, Different Crockett."
His Name was Different Crockett? :P
+Skyliner04s Was he a friend of Not Sure?
+Skyliner04s Sonny Crockett?You gotta carry weapons cause you always carry CASH.
Different, Different Crockett!
Nothing to do with the wild frontier...
his father was Mr. A. Different Crockett
I love the meaty detail ramrods and the mechanics add to the old pieces, beautiful.
Great looking gun,& really great story!!! This is definitely one of my favorite channels....... Keep up the good work!!!
I’m not so much a weapons buff as I am a history buff and I LOVE your channel. You have incredible knowledge
Hey Ian! Great videos man! I was wondering if you would ever want to do a video of a overview of all the guns in your collection? Love the vids man keep it up.
Excellent report. Really interesting.
Amazing presentation. I really would love to know the sources of all your information, especially about rare guns.
+Padi 5Star Books. Lots of books.
+Forgotten Weapons You could do a video or a list of all the books you have.... I like to know more about the reference material myself.... nice job.
+Doug Dukes he's done a lot of book reviews, check out the playlist
+Viktor Vaughn Thanks for the suggestion. It took me a bit to find his book reviews, but there are quite a few there. Sure this is not all he has.... but it is a great start. Thanks again.
@@ForgottenWeapons do you know much of Sam Houston? I am one of his descendants, by way of Andrew Jackson Houston. I know that my part of the family moved to Baltimore way back because of the whole "confederacy thing" with Sam Houston Jr.
What an amazing history!
thanks for these videos Ian, i live in the uk and as you probably know large calibre hand guns are banned, so your videos are an absolute treat to me, thank you so much!!!
rav ravensdale what does the government in the U.K. consider large caliber? Is there a cutoff, or is it just what they deem too large?
I too am curious. Especially now a days.
There is no calibre restriction at all on these firearms in the UK, they can be possessed without a permit without problem.
What? No 50 Nitro Express equalizers? What does that mean, would a 45 caliber Colt 1911 be unobtainable? Savages!
Thanks Ian. I have lived near Lancaster all my life I wonder where the old works was.
very pretty gun. Fantastic shape for something that old
Gorgeous gun. Gotta love the brass components on late 19th, early 20th century revolvers and pistols. Especially old Mausers.
Love this channel because I can geek out.
Cool history! I enjoy these. Thanks.
The perils of "States Rights" during conflict. I've read that near the end of the Civil War, Lee couldn't get supplies for the Army of Northern Virginia because other states were hoarding them. Interesting vid, Ian!
Thanks for the interesting history !
My guess on the relief cut not being done is it is better all around when you think about it. It means you have simpler production which in turn provides a faster turn out rate (very needed during the time), it is not really needed due to the shorter cylinder, by doing it this way the cylinder reduction is more weight off than a relief cut. I also imagine the lack of materials played a factor into why the cylinder is shorter as well.
Very good and detailed video
Thanks.. They are my 2nd favorite revolver . Have you done the Texas Pattersons? They are my favorite.
I love your stories.
You post great videos thank you
That low hammer looks an awful lot like a Newman slip hammer for a Colt Single Action Army. I wonder if these provided any inspiration for it?
Great Story. Thanks Ian. And yes this Pistol is remarkable for its age.
If this didn't use black powder, I would want one. The smooth design is gorgeous
If they went to the extreme of marking sn's on screws they were probably having major problems with parts interchangability.
Your explanation makes pretty good sense. However, except for that bit, the guns seem pretty expertly made- I can't pick out another part that looks hand-fitted. Though now that you've pointed it out to me, I almost can't believe those screws aren't hand-fitted, either. There must be a weird answer as to why that's the case.
This is the thing I love about artifacts like this, you can never know the full story, but you can speculate endlessly
Can a gun like still be fired? Would doing so (assuming no damage was incurred) negatively affect the value?
This was a pretty cool video. I like revolvers :)
Someone needs to start making replicas of these; Uberti... Pietta... Get Going !
At the very least, just a hammer will do.
Excellent history.
Very interesting as always.:D
Hi there. Have you ever reviewed a sten gun?
Could someone tell me what this type of gun might fetch at auction? Thank in advance!
Very beautiful gun.
Really Interesting! Basically a Dragoon with a Le Mat hammer spur
the index notch on the cylinder is of center, I have not seen that on a colt style revolver before.
Have you _seen_ a Colt revolver, then? The bolt is offset to one side of the hammer, so it rises out of the frame off-center.
Great video as always, thanks! A little bit of my own research, seems a lot (or all!) of the Confederate firearms featured in this auction come from the merger of two Civil War museums, one of which was the previous/current owner of PGT Beauregard's LeMat. Hopefully it goes to another museum, it'd be a shame to see a relatively important historical artifact like that end up in a private collection!
+Mind Zye -- It would be great to see that end up in my private collection.
Gorgeous pistol.
how does shooting gualities of this compare to 1860 army version for example
Now that's history.
Very interesting history
Why not add the price sold at auction to the description? I would love to know.
One if the many shifting rules TH-cam put out about gun videos was a prohibition of posting the prices of any firearms. The oldest videos on this channel used to give the auction sale price, but they had to be removed later on.
Ian, the audio is *really* quiet for me. Quality is good, and the gun is interesting, but I really had to crank up the volume to be able to understand you there.
Same, I've noticed that for all of his recent James D vids
+Holtz Back in my day, you had to get up off the couch and walk over to your computer to crank up the volume.
Phillip F Back in my day, you didn't have volume adjustment on the computer. It was MIDI bleeps at full volume or *nothing*!
+Phillip F It's a potential problem for those watching on mobile devices (like I did - the volume was sufficiently high, but only barely, and I had to turn it all the way up).
+Holtz I think he posted on another video that he was having some problems with his audio during this session of recordings that he only noticed afterwards. I think he said something like 20 videos are having audio issues.
Good stuff.
I am very interested in the history of Reb revolvers !
5:26 you've scared me :c
great video
Those exposed screw heads look like they might cause some pain under recoil.
No cutout at the loading area probably for strength reasons. the more metal you take away the weaker the gun.
What did it sell for?
Muito linda. Pena que não tenha tradução nem legenda, pois, aqui ainda é Brasil.
I feel like if you pull that thing out in a bad neighborhood, you'd get instant respect. That thing just looks like it means business.
Southern firearms manufacturer doing it's part to end slavery.
I don't know why but i find this a beautiful pistol, can't put my finger on it but it looks very good while all the pistols from that era look very similar ..... still ... in a peculiar way to me it sticks out.
One of their corporate financeers wasn't a guy named Drumft was it?
11:50
Oh god... i hope that does not recoil much...
Extremely interesting and odd history behind these guns haha.
So much can be learned from this period of US history, although studying it now a days is looked down upon by many. Very interesting the lessons that can be learned by an army trying to make do with nothing
That’s neat!
Ian has a modern Southern uniform on.
Be fair; John McClannahan Crocket only served as Lieutenant-Governor for two years. He had to line his pockets while he could.
Seeing someone choose to wear an old RAF jumper still surprises me.
never discount the greed of war profiteers.
History is fun :)
what is that top revolver on the sign?
+znbrtn General Beauregard's LeMat.
+Forgotten Weapons thanks for the reply! it looks like a gorgeous gun. very pleasing shape.
+znbrtn Go watch yesterdays video.
+Forgotten Weapons Thanks Ian for that yesterday's video on the LeMats ! I never expected to see a video and a proper description on such a rare and beautiful firearm ever .
They should add this gun in rdr 2 online
Oh man If they did I would buy a pair so fast, when I seen they added the LeMat I couldn't buy a pair fast enough. I have yet to buy any other set of revolvers since they're release.
*Sonny* Crockett, right?
I feel like there's a Civil War-era Ocean's 11 in this story
Can you imagine the currency inflating by 50% in a single year. That has got to hurt.
I bet that will sell for a pretty penny :-o
One of the few men that can pull of that style of facial hair👌🏻
4:45 someone in the background says Gahhhh!
Started watching your vids wen you were building the CETME L. but now watch all the forgotten weapons. Big Cap and ball fan so Love your Confederate oddballs. Still aint Built a CETME L, Maybe soon.
Hey, where's the big hat? Because....Texas. 🤔😁
Seed Capital ~ *Inducement.*
2ndDragoon good job👍
It's like a Colt
How much did this sell for?
+Sean Dali The auction is in about a week.
Forgotten Weapons
I noticed this about two seconds after posting! Haha.
I wonder how much it'll fetch!
3300.00 per gun in 1860s must have been class 3
classy
There's probably about 60 of these, handed downand now owned by descendants, sitting in prvate ownership, with people who have no idea what they are...
I thought the reason the Tucker and Sherrard revolvers weren’t being was because the company was selling the guns to the union. But I was wrong.
Something tells me that if the state had been more flexable on the 50 deflated dollar price.. they would have had their revolvers
Id pay for a remake of this revolver, but tweaked to use actual bullets
March of 2016 auction??? Am I late?? Can I still buy a gun? No?! Well fine then! 😡🤬
Cool story.
Jesus it sold for $115,000. Wish my pockets were that deep. Lmao
fast forward to when he actually handles the guns!!