JOKER Ending Explained! Hidden Evidence of Final Twist Revealed!
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- Joker Final Scene Breakdown! What REALLY happens in the Joker ending, and how does the final scene reframe the film's whole narrative?
Spoilers ahead! Stop reading if you haven't seen Joker yet!
Joker (2019) features a shocking, violent ending -- a sudden twist from the climax we THOUGHT the movie was setting up. But throughout these foreshadowing moments, what secret final twist was the movie actually hinting at us? Erik Voss explains the hidden truth of Joker's ending, and how it keeps the Joker mystery alive as his origin was always meant to be, from Alan Moore's The Killing Joke to Chris Nolan's The Dark Knight (2008).
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_Don't worry Gary, I won't hurt you, you were the only one that was nice to me_
*Arthur*
That's why I always give my co-workers candy lol
Most joker part of the movie imo
You are alright. Dont come to school tomorrow.
You forgot the smooch
@@voodooozo3755 lmfaoooooo
When he was being yelled at by his boss and he just stood there smiling without losing it is probably something we have all gone through.
Then he loses in the back alley stomping on some garbage.
He would certainly return for killing him if he wasn't locked up at hospital in the end.
We all have a joker inside. Not that we will go out and kill people, but ever since you are a child, you have to put up with some sort of verbal or mental, abuse even in the best of childhoods. It takes a while to learn how to stand up strong and defend yourself. Of course as we live in a civilization you do it through irony and choosing the people you hang out with and ignoring the jerks.
@Belloジ the whole point of this movie is theething over the edge buddy, thanks for pointing out the obvious
A GAMERS LIFE YES YES YES
The way he makes his blood into lipstick to smile gave me chills down my spine
That was a chill inducing scene for sure
One of my favorite parts
Heath Ledger reference 👍
@@BB16701 It's a joker reference pal. But for a normie, it's not too bad an observation.
Real shit. This was a master piece
When he walked down the Hallway in his “official” Joker attire 🃏😎 That was badass!
MattAnimatezYT Fr they jinxed it tho
true
That walk was bad ass
As f
The song in that scene just pumps you up. No wonder it's played at sporting events.
This is what happens when DC doesn’t try to be marvel 👌🏽
first good dc movie since Dark knight rises
Mike Wazowski Shazam was pretty ok.
DC needs to start over and do all their movies like they did this one, and do what they do best, which is in depth character development with a fair amount of action sprinkled throughout not flashy chi battles throughout like Marvel
Cold Cuts aquaman was also pretty good
This wasn't *DC* per se
when Arthur dropped the gun in the middle of the children’s hospital, I just laughed out loud in the theater
That was me during the midget scene where he couldn’t open the door 😂
@@BLUEMOONCAM "you were the only one that's ever been nice to me :)"
*Kiss*
Supreeth Koppula same
Me2
Omg I did the exact same thing 😂😂 everyone in the theatre were quiet af and there I was killing myself laughing
Anyone else pick up that since he was adopted his real name technically isn't Arthur, meaning that we still don't truly know Joker's identity
Just what I thought!
I was thinking this coud be way too easily explained, him being Thomas Wayne's son, it's way too simple. Even with TW being a dickhead and all, and maybe not being the idol the media wants to crafti him to be.
But when it turns out he's not a Wayne, every piece falls into place: that is, that the pieces are imaginary, and there"s no picture at all, Joker can craft himself to whatever he wants to be.
That’s a possibility, but not necessarily. It’s possible that his real parents didn’t name him and just gave him away or shit maybe he was found. No one knows. That’s what I like about Jokers origin. It’s a mystery.
Well his last name definitely isn’t fleck.
A person’s identity and birth name are not related in the slightest.
Pretty sure the scene that showed his work locker his name was P. Fleck
Nobody going to mention that he went into a refrigirator ?
Nigga neeeed to chill out, no biggie
Well.... appearantly he got out....
Another white room.
he was hiding from the cops.
It was just improvised by joaquin phoenix. So it is not meant to be in the planned storyline. So there...
Joker dancing in the bathroom after killing the three boys was the best scene to me. It gave me chills.
Kendal Hole same I wasn’t expecting it probably why
And it was not scripted ! Loved it
I loved it. He was killing that dance lol
Luis lopez swear.
How about the joker going Down the stairs that was a strong scene
“Why would I keep a sign” 😂
"Why does anybody do anything?"
underrated part of the film. even that shit gave me chills.
I feld so sad for him..
I think it was just a good point though. Just how much people can assume the worse in a person, even when their reputation probably indicates this.
‘ gets jumped and others find out ‘ ‘manger : don’t talk aloud of shit ‘ how can you lie about being jumped lol
“I FORGOT TO PUNCH OUT” 🕰 🥊
5k!! I knew I wasn’t the only one who wants to punch out!!! 😉
"Don't f_ö_ř_ğ_ē_ť ţ_ø smile..."
This part had me lol'd.
I was the only person in the theater who laughed at this.
i loveddddd that scene.
what was the song playing in that scene?
When you were hoping to find some clarity in the comments, but it only made you even more confused.
One month later and more viewings in the cinema than I care to admit publicly - and I change my mind every day about this film!
😂yes
@@Griwhoolda I'm very confused
The comments are the REAL Anti-Heroes/Villains.
Haha, you nailed it!!
The punch out scene and the moment when he accidentally runs into the exit door made me laugh the most
For me it was the little person from his job trying to escape the apartment
@@anrick1362 Mine to 😂
I laughed more when the midget couldn't reach the doorlock
I lost it when he ran into the door
The fact that nobody else was supposed to notice it was actually closed was perfect. I was like "yeah you tell em Artie" the BLAM🤣 My face dropped lol
"When you hand me my Oscar, can you introduce me as JOKER ?" - Mr.Joaquin Phoenix
It would be Joker in the role of Joker
You stole this from other videos but ok yeah, ha ha
@@thekrazyhatter5063 Heath Ledger had already set the bar very very high and still Joaquin doing what he did is exceptional.
You will never win.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👀👀👀
"You wouldn't get it" might be the most meta moment in a movie this year.
A Bit of Everything I loved that scene
@@jmedrano704 eh..idk bout that chief
You saying “most meta moment” is the most meta moment of this comment section
@@sexysaurusrex548 oh shit we going deep king
Langston Travis it was a line from the old cartoon Batman that joker says
Who else are scared for the midget when he couldn't reach the lock 😆
Poor gary
I'm pretty sure nobody wanted Joker to kill the poor midget
Leah Artemis Belena I was laughing my best friend didn’t thought it wasn’t funny
I honestly knew he was going to let the midget go.
I don't know if people are scared for him I think the whole theater laughed when he couldn't reach the lock
I love how we've all just forgotten that Jared Leto's joker exists haha
ablurt_55 WHO?
Ctrl-alt-delete
ablurt_55 Leto was Joker? lol
cos he doesnt exist
The irony being you didn't forget about Leto's Joker.
If he was in Arkham the entire time, that would mean that he imagined that he imagined he had a girlfriend.........I’m not sure about that one.
Alternatively, he just simply realized that their relationship was in his head.
lilmil he imagined he imagined? That makes no sense.
His hallucinations incorporate both reality and his imaginations. The neighbor existed and the Wayne’s were murdered, but Arthur was not involved.
Cobra Commander I think that ifHe did imagine it all he would probably thought it funny that something like that would have happened to him
So we get the comic origin. If someone asks joker how he became the joker.he answers it's like multiple choice.
I want to believe that the whole movie wasn't just a fantasy in his head
I don't think it works fully as just a fantasy in his head because he doesn't witness the Wayne murders. It's maybe the only scene in the whole movie that goes down without him actually seeing/participating in it. It's objective.
I think everytime he laughs he is having a delusion.
Same
@@MrZane777 thats almost the whole movie...
If it's wholly a fantasy, then why bother sitting through the movie
The film managed to make me feel empathy for a psychotic delusional cold blooded killer. I was cheering for him. That's the masterpiece.
To be fair, you mostly felt empathy for the person he was before he became a cold blooded killer.
@@darkhorse381 I was still 100% by his side when he shot dead Murrey
Bong and the Wall Street guys.
Same with infinite war and me cheering for Thanos
Same here
I thought the joke at the end is that he caused the riots which killed Bruce’s parents now making Bruce an ‘orphan’ who needs adopting referencing back to the convo with Thomas Wayne about Joker being adopted
Oh shit... Mind fucked. This will sit with me for days to ponder
the joke was that the nurse didn't listen to what he was saying like the therapist before
Excellent!
I thought this exactly
Same
The entire movie gave me chills the whole viewing, it felt so uncomfortable and hard to watch because you never knew how unpredictable he was. No horror aspects, just pure psychological thrills and I loved it
Yes!!!! This is the first movie that has ever gotten to my head!! Joaquin is my favorite actor so even though I’ve never been a Joker fan I knew I had to see it. He can dive into any role and make you forget it’s him playing a part because all you see is the character. This movie was deep in so many ways.
It was a great movie
I cried when Joker took a stand to the crowd that cheered for him. It was weird beautiful.
I cried in that scene too
I welled up 😢
Me too
Absolutely. Such an amazing scene. The movie could’ve ended right there and it would’ve been perfect.
David Butler I get what you’re saying. In retrospect it kinda tones down* the scenes impact-fulness but still a powerful scene nonetheless
“Fookin Crazy Innit, Me On The Tele” - Joker
Nathan Dust HAHAHA loved that scene.
Haha that line in the movie made me go “huh? Who said that? Joker?” Lol
I mean he did say in the movie “I’m not sure if I even really existed but now I do and people are starting to notice"
But the next thing he says is “I’m telling I exist” (or something like that)
He is aware that he is a fiction character
I feel like he said he now does feel like he exists because people noticed his actions. So he believes people noticed him.
insanedb lol Bandersnatch stuff
"But I do"
Bruce's parents death is what tells me it was not imagination
Good point
I thought the same thing upon viewing this video
Unless that's a disguise for a confession killing his own parents as a child lol
The point is that, he may have been in the timeline in which Batman already exists, and the Wayne deaths have happened. Few of some facts probably that he incorporated in his fantasies.
does the joker know that batman is bruce wayne?
“If I’m going it have a backstory, I’d rather it be multiple choice.” - Joker.
how’d you mess that up?
Jul By misspelling to, honest mistake tbf
"If im going to have a backstory, i would rather it be multiple choice."
@@gammawave1739 it's actually "if I'm going to have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice"
Dane Tattersall It’s actually: “ if im going to have a past*...”
I would love DC to start all over and make it like the joker. They shouldn't make dc movies like marvel movies, I would LOVE for them to make the whole DC universe dark and non child friendly.
Yup what Christopher Nolan started to do before the Zack Schnyder shit fest.
Well I think joker is pretty kid friendly due to him smiling and laughing like a kid
@@serter4545 if you want your child to kill someone and laugh about it. Yeah you can call it child friendly
@@kay0946 someone who understands
He was always in the asylum.
young Bruce sliding down a pole in their gardens was brilliant
Ohh a callback to sliding down to the batcave?
@@trailermashproductions3437 I thought only I noticed it
Trailer Mashup Production Foreshadowing not a callback.
@@AntwhaleNearfar in the old batman movies/cartoons batman and robin use a pole to slide down to the batcave. I dont think Christian Bale or Ben Afflecks batman did that
@@trailermashproductions3437 Christian Bale Definitely did that
"Do you call it miniature golf or just golf?"
😭😂😂😂
😂😂
Bad dum tss
HAHAHAhaha
Ooof
When I watched the movie, when Bruce said “my name is Bruce” someone in the audience shouted “Holy Shi**!”
Thats could be me...where u see joker?
Could be me too hahaha
Holy shit! Bruce Wayne is in a movie based on Batman characters!
that person must not have ever heard of Thomas Wayne
So did I. Also at the end when the Wayne's get killed. It was such a symbolic moment to watch the birth of two characters destined to 'do this forever'....as Bruce stands in the alley over his parents' dead bodies and the joker on top of the vehicle being cheered by the anarchists. Iconic stuff there.
The stair dance scene hit different. I was watching it and caught myself getting hyped for what was to come. The stair scene he’s just full joker
When that song starts playing. Damn
Anyone else notice what jimmy Kimmel did to phoenix is what murray did to fleck? Don’t go down that road Kimmel just saying
FrankiWasp that was the point...
A bit naive?
Everybody was in on the act. All scripted, and very well executed. Phoenix is well known for loving wacky Interviews.
That was David letterman but yes!
@@emporioreo once there is a hole in a persons skull and pieces of your brain are on the outside of it shooting them in the stomach is pointless.
The Fractured But Whole did you even watch Joker?
This movie did such a great job of portraying real mental illness.
This is me
i was thinking just that when i finished watching the movie..it reminded me this videogame Hellblade, senua's sacrifice.... really accurate at it's portrayal of a mentally ill person.
I was blown away by the accurate attention to details.
All of the sensory stuff Arthur would do with all the dancing blew my mind.
you must be kidding. all mental patients kill like violent psychopath?
*So wait he imagined a girlfriend that turns out to be imaginary in his imagination*
Good point.
Inception’s dream within a dream.
MSGibsonplayer I still haven’t seen Inception yet.... I think I have dreamt I was dreaming though...
@@PeterSchramm3 inception would be someone making you believe that your perception is reality while in reality, you're still sleeping.
Hype maste Boi that’s what I thought
Arthur is not an Anti-Hero. He is just a Villain who is a Protagonist.
Explain.
@@camilohiche4475 He is a protagonist for his followers in the joker but for us he is a villain
villain protagonist. like light yagami form death note or walter white during the first half of season 5.
A neccessary evil to a much broader force.
Like thanos
Nope the ending is simple, the joke is that he had to kill so many people and do so many evil things just to get psychological help
Yea the line of questioning on the clerk supports this heavily. Interesting take on it.
Now this makes sense.
I applaud you for this. Thank you
I like to believe that Joker realised who batman was as he was telling a half true and half false story to the person. Joker always liked to tell different stories about why he does what he does the entire movie could just be one of them
That’s exactly how I see it 💯he had to do so much evil just to get noticed shits funny but sad
Making all the best parts of the movie "imaginary" really kills it, I think the whole ending was real and the Joker is basically the catalyst that turned Gotham into the crime-ridden shithole that causes Bruce Wayne to become batman.
Nobody Famous he didn’t turn Gotham bad, but he did set off the chain of events that kills the Wayne’s
Nobody Famous I totally agree with you. I don’t think the ending is imaginary, I think it is critical to the story line.
In your opinion. The entire story is a comic book one, so it is silly to talk about 'real' and imaginary. Batman is imaginary in the first place.
@@davidlean1060 No.
To me that ending scene was a flashback from when Arthur was in the Asylum, remember that he was there before the eventa of the film and he was pretty crazy there
I also felt like Arthur’s laugh at the end was his only genuine laugh. Throughout the movie he laughed at times he didn’t want to and when people asked him “what’s so funny?” his response was always an apology and explanation of his condition. The end laugh seems to be the only time he meant to laugh, responding to “what’s so funny?” with “you wouldn’t get it”
Bryce H “He laugh through pain until pain make him laugh” just gonna leave it here,
(I didnt write this one just spread it)
Bryce H he laughed genuinely during the movie at some of murray’s jokes and also in the stand up scene where he was laughing at the build up to the jokes and not the punchlines and also when he was walking to his bosses office
If you notice his real laugh sounds like a high pitched evil laugh
While his uncontrollable laugh sounds like a normal laugh but you can see that he is in pain
I think he said “you wouldn’t get it” because he was done trying to make people laugh like he used to as arthur,as joker he is just entertaining himself tbh
@@imnothappyaboutthis3596 He was in pain at the stand up as well, it was the condition kicking in not the 'build-up to the jokes' lmao he even coughs and holds his throat like he usually does.
Luke Peters i am not talking about when he was on stage I’m talking about when he was in the audience and he was writing jokes
@@imnothappyaboutthis3596 oohhh right I misread that, you're right he did 'normally' laugh there although it was out of sync with everyone
I hope he will win an Oscar for his performance
Or an imaginary one.
Since he just got his golden globe award he just might get the Oscar too
We all do. But he won the sag and golden globe, a good indicator.
1000 abonnés sans vidéos He won!!
ur words became true today
“You don’t listen don’t you?”
"all I have are negative thoughts" that one gave me chills fr
* do you
Joker is dc, not marvel lol
otaku forever you don’t read do you?
@Bleak his name is marvel nerd but he has joker backround
The whole theatre erupted in laughter when he walked into the sliding door
Thomas Bell that scene was absolutely brilliant
Hmm. Just a few giggles in my theatre. The character was too sad to laugh at and too pathetic to be scared of.
Flicking the cigarette butt just before hitting the door, icing on the cake!
No one laughed in my theatre in any point of the movie, it was completely silent
Summer Tyme he was for sure terrifying
I got a flashback to Heath’s Joker when Joaquin had his head up against the police car while smiling and taking everything all in.
Same here.
Yeah me too.
I was waiting for someone to say this!
Me too
Me too, but I checked and Heath didn’t do that, he was outside of the window
I initially took the "you wouldn't get it" joke to be that Bruce Wayne was now alone and an orphan, just like Arthur
Yeah, same. He was saying that his life is all a comedy, so he thinks that Bruce Wayne's is going to be a comedy as well? Kind of a sadistic joke, or a tragedy, which what most people will see it as.
I agree! I think he realized what happened to him is going to happen to Bruce. Like he just realized "hey at least I'm not the only one"
Why would he imagine himself slamming on the exit door.
Hash Nowri he’s a comedian
Because it was funny.
Because the white room is the real world. The whole movie was in his head.
Because he was in Arkham once before.
"Imagine I hit those doors after talking my way out suspected murders and my mother's dying!" Oh, thatd be great!
He started to hallucinate after he stopped taking his meds.
Yes. Part 2....crossing fingers! I reallized in the end, that they were able to revive the real joker. Hes back!
He hallucinated at the start WHILE taking his meds; that line of thinking is debunked from the get go.
The hallucinations ended when he was off his medications.
@@hanburgundy4317 that was just a daydream. Seemed perfectly normal to me
Hans Ollo that wasn’t a hallucination, it was just a daydream
I like the joke " why are poor people crazy, because they make no cents".
I don't remember that joke in the movie. Wasn't the joke, "I hope my death makes more cents than my life did"?
Randimal762 yea something close to that
Thanks, I didn’t get it when I read it in the movie.
Randimal762 he wrote it on the journal
I don't understand why everyone forgets the scene where he locked himself in the fridge. I think everything after that is a fantasy
Telestar Productions some say he’s still in there
4 white walls just as a asylum (You should have just let me there )
Yeah then after he gets in it, he just starts walking out of a different room with different clothes on without actually ever seeing him leave it.
@@TarfuLuke exactly
Joaquin improvised that scene. Director and crew had no idea what he was doing.
When the dwarf couldn’t reach the lock😂😂
naw,when he acted on grabbing the midget and he jumped,had me
@@jameshogue7878 yes!
Why didn’t the midget try jumping it was like 2 inches outta his reach. That part was funny tho
Im suprised the joker didnt say to him. Well he'll never make jokes about you being short any more will he.
Haha my Partner said "He wont be able to get out" before he got to the door and realised 😂
*Jared Leto never existed* it was all in Leto's mind.
The Leto Joker version would make a great cashier at Hot Topic.
Jonny Shanon serious burn...
Sarthak V Jared Letos joker and this joker r from different universes, not at all connected
@@vinnyfuscia4485 a joker is still a joker no matter which universe is he from
JARVIS NICK they’re different, they don’t correlate at all. They don’t have anything to do w each other
I love how its his “origin” story. And yet, we still dont really know what his back story is 🤣
honder 342 did you even see the movie?
Israel Moreno yeah genius. Thursday night. But ill let you go ahead and tell me what happened in the film. No cheating. No theories.
Israel Moreno and if you saw the movie. Whats his origin story?
honder 342 ikr it's hella trippy and confusing
Israel Moreno they left it all to your imagination to decide which is perfect for a joker origin
Plot Twist: He never left the fridge.
@TrollingAndBowling i was on NDE situation, but i was got out of my body and seeing myself on bed with my dad hug me and crying and then i came back
Its a fridge not a freezer...
Yooooo
Oooooo, noice
Did anyone else laugh really hard when he randomly got inside the fridge lmao
"The recipe said to chill in the fridge for 4 hours, so I did just that"
@@jerriustate9638 what is this quote from?
My friend leaned over and said he gonna sit in the fridge and I'm like oh yeah? Moment he did I was so done LOL
He needed to cool down..
Didn't laugh AT ALL with that scene... it got me scared AF!!!
this is the first movie to give me actual anxiety
it was freezing in the cinema and i was sWEATING
Kayla DeAngelis i felt same
Geez that bad huh? Lol
Same! Legs shaking, arms sweaty, heart palpating... Not mom's spaghetti tho
From what scenes?
@@tomrock2409 It's what this film was a rendition of.... today's youth and how they cannot cope with reality or social connection. So these kids relate somehow.
I was mostly upset\disappointed during the movie, I'm picky with film though.
"I hope my death makes more "cents" than my life." -Joker 2019
Cents ha
He’s quoting Joker.
And it does
@@TheChiefJudgeDredd I know hes quoting joker I just watched the fucken movie its Sense not Cents like change that's why I said ha
I actually thought this joke was funny
I can't believe nobody spoke about the soundtrack that literally tells the story without any dialogue
wait what??
Grace Ryan you wouldnt get it
@@renegade0524 Good refrence😂
The white room?
The soundtrack is the first thing i noticed too
“Don’t you have to be funny to be a comedian?”
one gr8 comedian once say...the best kind of comedians are those where you cant decide if you want to laugh at them or feel sorry for them...Hahahaha
JosephhTV I'm not funny and me job is stand up comidy
Yeh this is just a TH-cam video so obviously a few mins of shit to get views
vakporcovac who
@@Stamprisk21 Jan Kraus
Everyone be Gary, because you never know who will be the Joker in the room.
Agreed
The joker always lies about his origins... everyone knows this.
The joker always lies about his origins... even to himself
As George Costanza said, "It isn't a lie if you believe it."
No one knows his origin , some just believe he is chaos incarnate always in the background of the worlds disasters.
I'm speaking more about the traditional Joker from the comics here, but I think that he doesn't lie as much as he is just super-crazy and can't clearly remember his origin.
To quote Joker in The Killing Joke: "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another. If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice. Ha Ha Ha!"
This, and the unknown status of his true name, gives mystique and a mythical element to his already badass character.
Joker is the best villain of all time!!! 🃏
he doesn't lie about it. he doesn't know his own origins
When the movie showed Arthur was imagining that women it blew my mind
You should watch the video my blood by twenty one pilots.it's not a first lol
Why? 😂
It's a very popular twist in movies. Nothing special
Depressing
‘’sometimes i remember it one way, sometimes another’’-JOKER
Whats the other way
@@user-asfh2ubiv5dh It's multiple choice.
Not the Joker in this movie
Right?
will newman it’s a reference dumb ass 🤦🏾♂️
"If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice! Ha ha ha!"
The Killing Joke, 1988
I was the only person that laughed out loud when he said his mom died and he was celebrating.
Chris Phillips no my theater laughed a bit I guess ur theater people had no sense of humor
Chris Phillips you “got it”
I guess we’re all JOKER in our own society
I was actually confused at first when I heard that I was like wait what?
I laughed out loud when he shot Murray in the face.
If he imagines everything it makes no sense that he imagines imagining having a relationship with Sophie.
True
Ulkig Meme lol explain
I came for answers only to get way more confused. Now I’m thinking of Arthur having a dream inside of his imagination?
@@billysmith3513 He is not. The movie makes it pretty clear what is real and what isn't. It is a nice theory that Arthur imagines everything, but you would have to completely disregard the flashbacks in which the truth is revealed. Him being back in Arkham State Hospital doesn't mean he imagined everything, but rather that despite all his efforts he still ended up back where he started, due to the world being too cruel to him.
Yeah because one thing about mental illnes its that it makes sense...
Penny: "Turn down the noise"
Arthur: "I'm trying, Ma" - breaks my heart. (He's also talking about the noises in his head)
😳🤔...😳
😢😢😢
The point of the “fantasy” theory is that the Joker’s true essence is preserved. Meaning, that by the end of the film, it is still unclear whether or not this was his true origin story. Staying true with the ambiguous nature of Joker’s past. I think the ending was perfect. It leaves it to the viewer’s imagination. Almost as if the film was written by the Joker himself.
“And that’s the point.”
I think everytime he laughs is when his delusions start. Or atleast nearby the laughs
@@MrZane777 good point you know
No. That's life. It's the question, not the answer.
The Joker is essentially a testament of unexplainable madness and chaos. He MUST be out of reach of any rationale, frame, category, explanation, logic, rule and objectivity to be him.
imo during the whole time he is telling his story in the akrham asylum but not real story just the onw he feels comfy wiv in the moment and it is all in his head without the ending where he walks aways leaving bloody footsteps
when the joker said “ hahahahaaaaa ... hahahahaaa *chokes “
i felt that
Murray: Okay! I'm waiting for the punchline.
Joker: There is no punchline.
It's not a joke.
if you have to explain the joke there is no joke.
The whole theater laughed when the midget almost got murdered......
I was so unsettled during that whole scene
It was fucked up, but I think that’s what a lot of ppl paid for lol.
The funniest scene in the movie 🤣🤣🤣
I felt uncomfortable
tariq ramadan same as my theatre. I was mortified
Anyone else notice that he’s Left handed throughout the whole movie EXCEPT during the made up scenes from his head, where he becomes right handed?? 🤯
wait what
Wait really?
dammit you are making me to go to the movie again.
Damn that's deep. Maybe he didn't want to be left handed because back them it was considered evil. I'm left handed too. As a kid someone used to tell me to no use that hand and to use the hand of God
Aaditya Umasankar Hahaha very worth it though!
Now I get the “White Room” song by Cream being played while he’s being driven in the back of the police car.
I wonder how many “jokers” are out there right now ready to lose their shit.... if he received lots of love as a child, it wouldn’t had escalated to what he became... children need unconditional love, always.
Karla Gonzalez of the joker was real he would be caught. I love the joker as a character but nobody in real life could be this genius wether or not they have mental illness
How many? I know one,.......right here!
@ElCheeze exactly lol
BOO
Children who have received unconditionall love have become psychopaths. That love won't protect them from crulety. You should love your kids but it wont protect them from peoples crulety.
As kids we loved the heroes, as adults we understand the villans
Wow, you're like the 1,000,000th person to say this. How original
We never really do understand the villans. We don't do what they do
@@bsmc1311 Fr tho, why would you want to balance the universe?
@@bsmc1311 we understand why they do they things that do
Personally I think this was well said
Arthur Fleck: i didn’t even know if i existed... but i do
Jared Leto Joker: i wish i didn’t exist
Jolo Sarmiento Harsh but funny 😂😂
Jolo you don't exist if I were you I'd worrie about that, jolo right now your in a white room in a longggg sleeved jacket.
Jolo Its time for your medication and as you know it's a suppository so bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo bend over jolo
Heath Ledger joker - Now i don't exist :(
Ben Sheriff was Heath the best ?
Maritza Piccarillo & I thought my jokes were bad 👌🏻
The best scene of the movie was when he was dancing down the stairs. 😂
Rock and roll, part 2
YES!!!YES!!!YES!!!He had fully Devolved into the Joker at that moment ...
Smearing his blood into a smile was the best scene in my opinion
loved it! he's such a good dancer
Playing Gary glitter
There were only two delusions in the movie, in my opinion, of course. First, his girlfriend. Second, the rioters didn't help him escape from the police. He was arrested and sent to an asylum which is what we see in the ending.
Or they did help him and he eventually got caught
but why wasn't his hair green in the ending
That ending is probably the actual beginning of the movie
gulapanatic how?
Holy crap what if he escaped the Asylum and assumed the identity of that chicks son. Maybe they were locked up together.
I thought that too because of the flash to the white room during his therapy session. So it's like he was planning it in his head, and then flash forward to "current" day when he starts to act it out maybe? Still filled with delusion, of course
@@lisab4913 you wouldn't get it
If that's the beginning, and he escaped then why would he be able to talk to someone who prescribed him medication. And why would he in the first place. Not sure about this theory
Before he says “You wouldn’t get it” there’s flashes of the Wayne family.
exactly. i thought that he was just thinking about how his whole life is a joke, and the death of bruce waynes parents is just a joke that no one but the joker would personally get. which makes me think that it's all real, he just was placed in an insane asylum after the events.
KodyXXVll it was definitely real
@@KodyXXVll Yeah I completely agree with that. He made another joke just like that previously in the movie and I think it was of the same thing.
Joker basically created batman
My theory is that the whole story was made up and he's already dealing with batman all along. He probably made assumption what if bruce wayne is batman by connecting his story with the death of wayne that made bruce become batman. That's why he's laughing and when the psychiatrist asked what's so funny, he answered you wouldn't get it.
I'm gonna watch the movie one more time (it'll be my third time by the way) to confirm my theory.
I think that....... as he stops taking his meds, he's having more and more trouble separating objective reality and fantasy. So I think the events are happening, but not as grandiose and smoothly as he thinks they are.
I thought this as well. Soon as he stopped taking his meds and seeing his shrink, the true mental illness took over. A mental way to deal with the pain, through imagination
Exactly,i think Bruce's parents death really happened,but not with the clown masks and all that stuff
He's living his fantasies by the end. He even says "it's just as I imagined it."
@@minkya1010 when does he say that?
@@Gollum2150 when he's sitting on Murray's couch and absorbing the atmosphere there...
Arthur's mom say thomas wayne is his father is like when barney stinson's mom say bob barker was his father lol. Both character played by same actress
OH MY GOD
I’m glad someone else noticed that!!
The song at the end while he's in the mental asylum goes something like "some people get their kicks by living in a dream"
It's "That's Life" I think the line is "Some people get their kicks stomping on a dream".
I think that song still implies the multiple choice aspect as if the movie is a dream.
With that performance I prayed to forget about it a week after suicide squad
Further lyrics go "I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a pawn and a king..." So yes, it still implies a good measure of multiple choice there. Good catch!
It's a song by Frank sitara
Its "some people get their kicks stomping on a dream" the songs called thats life by frank Sinatra
I don’t want the ending to be only in his head ): all the insanity in the city was perfect!
jmd2789 fair but he does make fair points if you try to relate this in real life. I like to believe everything after killing the 3 guys on the train is in his head as he gets away with a lot more than reasonable after that
nah he got in jail and joker men break him out in the jail
jmd2789 Film theory said that when he said “you wouldn’t get it” he meant that he made Bruce Batman, so even though they weren’t related by blood they were still related in that sense.
jmd2789 ya I don’t believe it, I just wanted to mention it
He doesn’t know that Bruce is Batman, but he does know that the chaos he created is was lead to the creation of Batman. Ying and yang, chaos and order, etc.
Even though Joker is crazy, he’s still brilliant.
There was no chance he had the knowledge of Alfred's existence, Alfred it's the constant, the anchor, so (I wanna think) everything was real, he ends at Arkham, and (soon or later) the mobs will get him out
Well, actually there is: his mother was obsessed with Thomas Wayne, so he would have known about Alfred thanks to his mother. Simple and clear. 😏
Exactly! I think this is the most correct. If the director gave you specific moments where things were not real...then they weren't real. If not...then they were real. Way too much overthinking going on out there. The 'You wouldn't get it' comment was directly linked to the moment where young Bruce was standing over his dead parents. That was his 'Joke' moment...that his actions had lead to the death of Batman's parents. With the many many times that Joker is apprehended and Asylum'd over his life....that final moment in with the counselor is likely just one of those moments...Batman may even actually exist at that moment timeline. The movie was masterful!!
@@barrycothran pretty brilliant the "you wouldn't get it" observation! And yes this movie is monstrously disarmingly beautiful
It most likely isn't that it is all real or all imagined. It is most likely fantasy mixed with fact. Maybe he did go to see Bruce but it didn't happen the way he imagined it. Maybe in reality Alfred kicked his ass and so he imagines it differently to make himself look better. He does something similar to this in other parts of the movie like when he does stand up and no one laughs but that is not how he sees it in his head..
@@barrycothran I don't think it's that simple. After all, showing us that some things were Arthur's imagination can also be a way to tell us: ''Don't trust everything you see, it might be a lie.'' Without these scenes, if the truth is that it's all his imagination, how are we supposed to know that Arthur is an unreliable narrator?
i interpret the" you would;nt get it.' as him realizing he created batman.
Yeah,because Batman is a" Freak" too:)
This joker and dark knight joker are supposivly the same joker. If that was the case that he knew he made the batman. Than why in dark knight is joker trying to figure out who batman is under the mask. Pluss, bruce wayne hasn't even created batman yet, he was still a kid with fear of bats. Probably hasn't even fallen down the well yet either. Its so dumb seeing so many people say "you wouldn't get it" is joker realizing he made batman. It was him fantasizing about killing the Dr he was talking to, and than doing it. That was his style of joking. Joking about death, and than creating those deaths.
@@JayDillaThaKilla thats just a fan theory lol its not true
When Arthur was walking up to the Wayne manner and we saw the little kid, everyone in the theatre started whispering to each other “it’s Batman!”
Michael Dipane oh makes sense .
As soon as they say the kid behind the wall, people just started screaming at the top of third lungs and I was just confused. Later when I understood it was Batman I realized what an amazing audience I was sitting with.
I had to explain that to my friend. Otherwise it would’ve went completely over his head lol.
Just like the people of gotham! lol
Asmitha Ramesh sounds like a terrible audience to me
I’d like to believe it’s a mix of the two
Me too
Murrays death scene definitely happened since it zoomed out and there were a bunch on TVs all playing different news cycles, that grounded the scene in reality for me.
Yeah, I think it was definitely a mixture.
That is kind of genius, instead of it all actually happening or it all being in Arthur's imagination (which would create a certainty of events) you never know for sure what is real or not (except for the scenes that point out it was his imagination).
@ Jockogamez 33,
The events in the movie had to be real or else the Joker would’ve never existed.
This whole movie would have never happened if Arthur's friend hadn't given him the gun
The movie would have never happened if Arthur would've just let those punk kids take the sign..
c.v.11 this whole movie wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t a clown
This whole movie wouldn't have happened if he wasn't born
This hole movie wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t adopted by Penny Fleck
This whole movie wouldn't have happened if humanity didnt exist.
"I hope my death makes more cents than my life did"
Sense *
@@JayDillaThaKilla watch the movie
@@mike7238 i have twice now lol i just didn't notice in his note book he spelt it "cents" till watching it a second time lmao
@@JayDillaThaKilla clean ur ears
@@JayDillaThaKilla or see with a subtitle
The part when he scares the midget 😂😂😂😂
The way how he's nice on the midget is quite wholesome tbh lol
@@jackiedim7028 ohyeah so wholesome he just brutally murdered the only person left that cared for him in front of him omg ima get sum tissues i might cry its just so wholesome
I wonder if that was an improv from Joaquin... Or perhaps he and the director discussed it forehand, without the midget knowing it, to get the best effect.... Stuff i would like to know.
dont rwoosh me im trolling 😭😭💀
@@mwesselkamp2063 wondered the same thing!
Joker is the best movie I’ve seen in years
Not me, not even close
@@No_Fear_33 Yikes to you then
this is fuckin true
@@No_Fear_33 what's the best movie you've seen?
I agree.
It’s a masterpiece
At least he remembered to punch out
😂👏👏👏👏👏
QuantumDaniel I know, right? He could’ve gotten in a lot of trouble. Phew
Everyone wants to be a clown, until the circus comes to town.
Is it just me....or did he gain a considerable amount of weight at the end when he was in Arkham?!?! Almost like he had been there for quite some time?!
Yeah I think so and I hope because he looked uncomfortable but fits
also looked a little bit older
@@m3j he did! I noticed that!
Someone said it’s in the future when Batman already exist
Albert Davila yea and when he says “you wouldn’t get it” it’s because no one knows that Bruce is Batman, It’s only joker who knows that because he calls him Brucie
I thought the “joke” at the end of the movie was that started the sequence of events that made Batman
@@thedailycontrarian Yeah, I don't think psychically seeing the future is part of The Joker's CV. Maybe Dr. Manhattan, but that's a different universe.
The Movie Dealers there no reason that the last scene isn’t in the future after joker and Batman have been fighting for years and joker thinks it’s funny that he inadvertently created his own downfall
@@themoviedealers Manhattan actually is also in DC
Same
Same
Nothing’s EVER real with The Joker, not even his “ Origins “!
the ending is in the future its his first encounter with batman being thrown in arkham hes laughing because he knows its bruce and finds it funny what he created
This is the comment I've been looking for
Yeah but the timeline the film sets up would mean that would have to be at least 10-15 years later but Arthur hasn't aged a day.
theolay you right
@@theolay you can see Arthur has some grey hairs plus Bruce is like 10 in the film which means he becomes Batman at 25 so 15 years. Arthur is 34 which means he’s 49 when Bruce becomes Batman so it does make sense
This is an interesting idea, and I partially agree. The movie frames itself like Jacob's Ladder and thus nothing that happens ever really happened. I agree with you -- he's laughing that he created the Batman, but what we are actually seeing is how Joker's mind works -- He is having this private delusion and enjoying it. In reality, he's sitting in that room the entire film conjuring a Batman fantasy, right before he wastes the psychologist. I think this kind of writing is generally lazy, and in this case it allowed Todd Phillips to boldly proclaim that he was an incel, without disrupting any future narratives in batman films.
I personally think this is meant to be unknown, like he said, Joker’s origin is supposed to be unknown, even to himself.
Sally B. Mcgill not in an origin movie
AcE Temperzz yet we know how unreliable joker is, and how insane he is. He is an unknown even to himself, makes sense in a joker origin that he would be this way. His origin is multiple choice to him.
@@benny2427 Yes, which is why we can only really speculate on his origin as the birth of Joker is meant to be a mystery of itself.
@@Butchass6969 it's a detailed view at one of the multiple origins you can choose to pick if you want, yet still tbd
When the midget couldn’t open the door I laughed out so loud in the theatre
I cried it was sad to me
Jason Bueno i was laughing so hard but was feeling bad for him too
LMFAO RIGHT
Me too! And no one else did. And I thought "oops" but I kept laughing.
That was the ONLY funny moment in the movie..
Joaquin phoenix : Do you wanna know how i got this oscar ?
Gea Rg by playing the joker ofc
It is gonna be multiple choice ?
Ain't that Heath leadgers take?
Brilliant
Why so serious?
The scene where Arthur has his Joker transition suit/make-up on and dances down the steps was brilliant, that was when the Joker we know started to come alive.