BJJ blue belt’s first judo sparring (vs. real judokas)
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- Join me at my first ever randori as a BJJ blue belt where I take on as many judokas as I can to work on my standup... all in the name of not having to pull guard anymore in competition.
Sensei Chuck Jefferson hosted this event called Judo at the Plex in San Jose, California, put on by his company Judo United where he brought together some of the best judokas in the Bay Area for a giant open mat on February 4th, 2024!
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- Matt Guffey on camera
- Chuck Jefferson
- All my friends and training partners
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Register for the next event here! Chuck and Judo United are putting on a judo training camp April 27-28 at this same location in the video! All ages are invited. judo-united.smoothcomp.com/en/event/16555
The bit about the good fall is very true. I left Judo as a young green belt more than 20 years ago YET due to my instinctual falling technique I learned for so long as a kid, the Judo fall actually saved my life quite a few times in normal life! just last week I was doing my apartment scheduled cleaning and I slipped on my back over a wet floor I forgot drying. And I swear if I did not land properly on my back Judo style -as instinct kicked in- I might have suffered a serious back injury... or even worse!
The philosophy of “accept the falls, if you resist you’ll get injured” is so basic but true in life 👍🏽 great content
Just not in aikido..😅
I'm glad someone taught me that, spared me and my ego alot of injuries
Yeah I started off in Judo, everybody learns to go with the throws, BJJ guys by contrast really fight being taken down, even in training.
the worst fall I have ever had in Jui jitsu was when i made the mistake of trying to hold onto the person throwing me when i was a green belt. Its why you spend so much time practicing your rolls and turning yourself ahead of the throw to take the impact out along with your break fall. I was sick for about a day after that mistake. Felt like my kidneys had bounced up into my shoulder blades lol
The only times in Judo I've ever been injured, is when I've resisted to long while getting thrown.
really brave of you to put yourself out of your comfort zone. Great content
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching
i think hes at least a yellow belt nowwith those SOLID breakfalls
For sure wear a white belt and wear a blue or white gi if you are visiting a judo school.
yeah I've since joined CJ Judo and of course bought a proper uniform ;)
@@joshbeambjj awesome! Your video was really good. I enjoyed your breakdown of how Judo randori can be likened to bjj flow rolling.
At my judo school we have a lot of cross trainers, tbh it’s nice if you change your belt etc. but we don’t require it, our sensei honors the fact that if you cross train you have experience and understanding. Ntm we all know Gis are expensive hahah. I myself though have worn a blue double weave for the last 10+ yrs in BJJ and judo.
White GI. Always white as a visitor. Traditionally it’s always white period. Some schools will allow a blue GI, but unless you know for certain, just wear white.
@joshbeambjj so if someone can do one....bjj or judo?
Looking how sweaty you end up, they certainly put you through a good judo session.
Absolutely! Thanks for watching
Good job man. It’s good to see BJJ guys training judo and learning instead of being arrogant and saying that BJJ is the best martial art when it actually came from judo.
8:27 just FYI what you were doing with Joshua is called Nagekomi. It's when you throw each other back and forth cooperatively but while moving around like in randori.
this is good to know, thanks! i thought nagekomi was only when we were standing in front of each other practicing throws, but it's good to know too that it can also encompass moving around, etc. I'm learning 😂
@joshbeambjj I would say you were doing French randori or cooperative randori. Throw for throw without trying to block aggressively. Nagekomi is indeed usually just a line up of throws either static or on the move.
@@joshbeambjj yes, you can do it when you are just both standing there. It's just semantics but if you don't throw each other while doing this it is called uchikomi. If you throw then it is nagekomi. I've always done nagekomi while moving around, simulating randori or competition. IMO this is absolutely the best way to get good. It's just like flow rolling in BJJ. There is "aliveness" to the training where you are setting your opponent up for your attacks by manipulating him in a sparring like situation. That's how you develop your game -- either for ne waza (BJJ) or tachi waza (judo).
@@joshbeambjjThat is Uchikomi.
@@nedron Uchikomi is repetitive entry in for a throw without executing the throw itself. If there's a throw executed then it's nage komi.
Pretty sure Tony was my coach's son's coach when he was an international competitor playing for the German team. He is absolutely legit.
oh that's dope! I've heard some great things about him.
@@joshbeambjj tony is a very good judoka and good guy!
@@joshbeambjj just a followup on this, I got to train with Toni last night (just noticed I spelled his name wrong earlier) and he's stopping by our dojo in the next few weeks sometime. Very nice guy, so don't hesitate to train with him if you get the opportunity.
The power of training both is priceless....i love training both at the same time
100%! thanks for watching
Same here. I started training Judo, a year after BJJ. You really do get the best of both worlds when cross training.
Just remember to listen to your body and take breaks when needed
@@maurisauceda8388 100% self care is priceless
Or just train SAMBO
Good video man, Really captures the spirit of Judo in alot of ways with how helpful some people will be and how intense it can get at times as well. Hope you keep up the journey. You should probably wear a Judo gi and your Judo ranked belt next time tho :P
Glad you enjoyed it, appreciate the feedback there! Thanks for watching.
Hahaha and yes I've since joined CJ Judo and bought a proper uniform 😂
I fight with a left handed grip and left handed stance on purpose because it's less common in Judo but most of my throws are still right handed.
You can do seio nage off a left handed lapel grip with your left foot forward while turning in right handed.
2nd Dan Judo and purple BJJ here
I tried southpaw, but it was harder to teach.
Same here.. I like a good left handed uchi Mata and osoto but my biggest throws, Seonage and makikomi come right handed from a strong lapel grip.
Right V Left opens up completely different angles. Must admit though, I hate fighting those awkward lefties 😅
Lowly 1st Dan Judo
Good work, man. I think you pretty adequately captured some of the more subtle technical things that Judo emphasizes.
As a Judo guy myself, I’ve never really understood the BJJ need to death grip-just feels bad for economy of energy. Likewise, the notion of working together to build things up is a big deal in Judo as well. I can appreciate full resistance sparring, but I do think too much of the conversation online is dedicated to that idea; it’s very difficult to grow when people are constantly shutting you down.
thank you! I'm glad I was at least somewhat in the right ballpark.
Yeah I think the death grip stuff comes from just really not knowing takedowns, lol, at least for beginners like myself!
Yeah, to your point, the more I talk to people from other grappling sports (judokas, wrestlers), the more I realize that full resistance sparring is less common than we find in BJJ... Got to interview a young up and comer wrestler on our podcast Thanks for the Roll, his name is Aden Valencia, and he was describing wrestling practice to me and where full resistance sparring actually fits in, and it's a very specific thing, as opposed to how BJJ people spar, which is basically always with full resistance, lol. It's making me think about this all very differently!
one of your best videos yet! so fun and i love the judo culture. they all go after it
I really love all the judo videos. Love your humility and desire to explore and branch off into other areas of grappling. I want to learn it too, but there’s nowhere within 1.5 hours of me to train, so I’m actually about to travel to another city to train intensively for like a week (and do other vacation-y stuff), and I’m so excited!
Love your content, keep up the good work ! Hope you’re gonna continue your judo videos ! Oss, from a french judoka ;)
Thanks for this video mate... I didn't know it needed it but it made a huge difference
Love your learning mindset. It made me remember how motivated I was to learn Judo when I started and how I let myself go recently. Keep cooking.
Great job on this video. Thank you for approaching Judo with a mature attitude and learning mindset.
I'm enjoying a lot this judo series! oss
Glad to hear it, thanks for watching! I'm gonna try to make more like this.
Both such beautiful arts. It's great to see such cooperation.
Sick and underrated bro!!
Subbed.
Loving the judo content!!!
wooo, thanks for watching!
Love seeing this. Well done.
Really well put together video, really cool!
As an Old (really old) Judoka - Judo was my PE class in Japan - I think that it is awesome that as an accomplished BJJ you're trying something new. I tried BJJ once and was so intimidated by it - I'm over 60, with ingrained Judo habits, and don't have the tons of muscle everyone in the studio has. Maybe I'll follow your example and give it a shot again. Great video.
Really nice video man! Keep up the judo work! :)
That was fun to watch, great narration and video
Good video man, I look forward to more videos on your journey in Judo. Maybe I'll even bump into you at a local tournament someday
Love the video! Also great production quality, felt like someone knows what he’s doing. Keep up the great work!
Much appreciated! Thanks for the feedback on that, I've really been trying to up the quality of these videos!
I'm a judo player transitioning to bjj at the moment. Love the attitude of the bjj guys to my judo, they're always asking questions and it helps to skill swap a little so my jits is coming on so quick
In your opinion, it is better to learn judo or Brazilian jiu-jitsu
@nassimbelallam8830 I would say it would depend on your age. If you're under 35 learn judo cos you get all the takedown stuff and a rudimentary understanding of the ground game and then transition over to bjj and youll have a real advantage over the other white belts but you wont necessarily be blue belt standard but youll be very close.
If you're over 35 then judo is just going to be too hard on your body unless you're an above average athlete. Neither is better than the other but they complement each other so well
I'm 34, so Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is best for me😉
@nassimbelallam8830 give judo a go. It's definitely worth going just learn how to breakfall and that skill will stay with you forever
Really enjoyed that. Thanks.
This video is amazing, really enjoyed your cadence and storytelling. Also audio and camera work are incredible, hope your channel keeps growing.
Wow, great feedback, thanks so much! This is especially great to hear since I've spent so much time trying to figure out each of those aspects, so I'm glad you noticed and then cared enough to leave a comment to point it out! Thanks for watching the video, I'll be making many more!
Also, I gotta give credit for the camera work here to my guy Matt Guffey!
13:57 Lmao... Girl saw the camera and turned on Super Saiyan mode. 😂
yeah i got murked 😂
@@joshbeambjj 14:02 That's when she realized it's too late to say no now. 🥲
She’s an international medalist so she’s pretty dang good
Anne is legit!
She scary
Awesome! Love the bjj x judo stuff
glad you're lovin' it, thanks for watching! i'll be making plenty more
Love seeing all the SJS judokas!
Terrific mindset
Judo is a great sport
Well done video
Great attitude, loved the video!
Just an FYI, you shouldn't use your thumb to grip. You should be forming "pockets" or "folds" with their gi and then hookingyour fingers in, and clamping only your three smallest fingers against the heel of your hand. Sometimes you will include your index finger in order to get more lift or control, but generally it limits mobility versus the three finger grip. The stance thing is also really huge you absolutely need to switch your stance or you are never going to progress (unless you decide to relearn all your techniques left-handed which not many people can do, even at the highest level.
thank you! great feedback. I was actually working on this last night at practice!
Great (& fun) video 🥋🙏🏼
this video is so engaging. your editing and storytelling skills keep getting better!!
Thanks Antonela 😁🙏🏻
I'm really impressed with your souplesse and weight distribution while doing these throws!! As a brown belt with around 10 years on the mat I still often struggle with some of these throws you are pulling off. Also i'm really impressed by the overall skill level of these judokas, keep training with them and appreciate having such good teachers around! Keep it up 👍
Love the video, not enough Judo content like this!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching
Real good , very openminded , you are awsome .
thanks a lot, appreciate you watching!
Watching you get thrown makes me want to work on my break falls 🤣Great video JOSH!
Hahaha break falls are so satisfying, idk what it is about them 😂 thanks Travis
Great show, and love open minded approach - I do both sports and I love the crossover
Thank you very much for sharing your experience with us ! You have a open mind to trying a new in a new martial art with new training partners, like you said, flow roll and flow fall ;) It was very interesting to watch !
I bet this was fun and you learned a lot. Judo is awesome.
I enjoyed that, well done!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
Awesome video, very inspiring and heartwarming, thanks:)
Thanks for watching!
Awesome vid!I was at this open mat! Youre doing much better than i am. Open mind, welcoming throws and being a great partner. The first black belt that suggested switching your stance is so good. Super nice guy too.
great quality, subscribed
Thanks for the sub! Glad you liked it
Love the way you shot and narrated this video @joshbeambjj
You have a new subscriber. Keep up the good work.
I really like Your judo videos. Cross-training is an amazing way to get better.
Started taking judo to help my Bjj.
The foot sweep is so powerful.
Love it!
That kid doing judo and wrestling is going to be a beast
Great vid!
Loved this, great thing
Thank you for watching!
I have to say the guy you did the drills with in the blue at 8:35 was smooth and fluid.
Great video Bro!
Cheers from your new follower from London.
Oss 👊🏼
Ossss thanks bro!
great video!
Subscribed! Awesome Video!
Loving your content. More of this!
You should try competing in judo too!
Thanks a lot, glad you're loving it! I'll be making more. Competing is absolutely on my radar! And if/when I do, I'll make a video about it for sure.
man... i love these videos. im in the same boat you're in, blue belt bjj and white belt judo (couple of months)
Glad you like them! That's awesome, going down the same road, lol. I've only been at judo now for a couple months too. How long have you been doing BJJ?
@@joshbeambjj bjj since 2018/2019
In your opinion, it is better to learn judo or Brazilian jiu-jitsu
very well done video, super entertaining to watch
Thank you very much!
great video! i’ve always felt like judo and jiu-jitsu are two sides of the same coin, or siblings. each had their area of expertise but are amazing at what they do, and have a lot to teach each other. to be well rounded is to be proficient in both!
breakfall is indeed very important to grow, you are doing it the right way by being relax and go with the flow, that's how u grow and learn quickest, and that's also why u need to have good breakfall!
thanks for the feedback!
Good job!
Welcome to judo Josh, I hope you continue practicing! We are a bit wild but always respectful and trying to help everyone grow
Humble People 👏 👏 👏
That was DOPE, I'm a BJJ blue belt, been doing martial arts most of my life. but since BJJ I love "to watch" good judo. I've tried a couple of classes but I'm not yet good enough at falling and am scared (I'm 56) of getting hurt. Good to see you not get trashed and leave more or less unscathed. Very inspiring 👊🏾
As an old judo brown belt (1982) you did better than I did in my first 20 times on the mat. Congrats on your success. Looking forward to watching your progress.
Great video keep it ip man👍
Little tip if you’re continuing judo when you’re trying trows do it left and right the same amount so left wont feel strange after a long time
Great vlog!!!!
Glad you liked it!!
Good stuff, man. I know a few of the people in this video, so that was cool to see haha
That was cool!
Good show. I'm curious as to why you wore your BJJ rank though - I would not step on a Judo mat with my BJJ ranking (or vice versa). Signaling your experience level in Judo is a courtesy to the other players so they know what to expect.
I was about to post the very same thing. As a judo black belt, I'd still wear a white belt to a BJJ class (but I would let people know my judo grade).
yeah i got several comments on that! I realize now that I never showed in the video much of the backstory of how I found this event. I had already met the organizer and knew several others there (who I train BJJ with), and I was told it was fine just to show up in my BJJ stuff. That wouldn't be something I'd typically do (and I def wouldn't do it without checking first), and this whole thing was pretty last minute!
@@joshbeambjj yeah I figured you hadn't just walked in the front door without permission to do that. The thing that made me uncomfortable is not all Judo players necessarily hold with the "practice with anyone ethos" and might have turned down a white/yellow belt if they were there to get chances at randori with (say) other national-grade athletes. I've met some people who have the whole "country code on Gi" thing and sometimes they are more or less mellow about working with a beginner (e.g. in the lead-up to the Nationals or an international event).
ofc the dicey element here is that if you had showed up with a white/yellow you might not have been able to train; I don't remember seeing junior grades there in the video.
(nvm, spotted a couple white belts there)
Makes sense, thanks for elaborating! I'm always fascinated learning more about different sport cultures. From what you're describing, I could totally see that being the case in the context of competition prep or something. I've experienced similar things during my BJJ competition adventures.
Judoka and the sport in general has such a nicer culture in than BJJ I think. There's a refinement and good character about it.
from white belt to black belt, I've trained BJJ in
POLAND: Gold Team/Gold Crew, Złomiarz Team
GERMANY: Ringside Gym in Berlin, some club in Munich (can't remember the name)
ITALY: De La Riva Pesaro
UK: Brazilian Top Team, London Fight Factory
and i were to count all the places where i only popped in like 2 or 3 times, this list would be several times as long, if i remembered them to begin with, which i don't (a couple of such places would be Copacabana Warsaw, some BJJ club in Streatham/London etc),
in NONE of them have i encountered unnice culture, or bad character (other than a few individuals perhaps, which is inevitable on such scale, but that's not part of the club's culture)
what do you perceive as not nice about BJJ culture? what's your range of exposure to BJJ/Judo clubs? honest question. it's possible i have just been extremely lucky since 2007.
OTOH i admit i don't know much about Judo culture (not in the form of first-hand experience), but in this comment section there's already like 10 comments scolding him for coming in wearing a black gi (who cares??), or:
"I like getting BJJ players getting humbled, they tend to be full of themselves."
"I just hope BJJ people stop copy technique from another Martial art style and calling their own."
"always love when judokas show BJJ butt scooters real martial arts"
etc.: ) surprisingly vitriolic, which is hard for me to understand
Judo is such a beautiful art! I only now basic sweeps and maybe four throws and want to learn more, but there's no judo gyms/dojos in my location.
Awesome! Brought back old judo memories from before I moved to the States. Judo is legit and beautiful to watch.
No Judo in USA?
@@Supermomo2007 less than in France, but not absent ! More life choice, work and also I climb a bunch. Didn't feel I would have enough time/money for both hobbies. I decided to focus on one.
I'm sure I could have found it if I really wanted to.
@@williamnicolas122 come to germany to train with me. I train 5 times in week. With have also kata sessions and self defense with nasty techniques
Great attitude and you obviously enjoy the challenge and the learning. I can empathise with the stance thing as I did boxing for a few years and then went back to judo recently. My opinion would be to change your feet and not your grip. You showed a natural ability as a right handed person to throw with a right side lapel grip and the off-balancing and pulling through your judo throws is more important in my opinion than standing with your left foot forward. I think given time you will easily adapt to having your right foot forward and you will progress quicker once you do. All the best in your judo journey!
Great video bro, way to put yourself out there 💪
Gotta ask though - why did you wear your BJJ blue belt?
Really good video. Can see this blowing up. I love judo, train catch wrestling and BJJ but would love to get to a judo club in the near future.
Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoyed it. Ah that's awesome, I actually don't think I've met anyone who does catch wrestling (tho of course I've seen it online), but that sounds fun to train
@@joshbeambjj if you're ever in sunny England then feel free to drop into my academy at Snakepitusa/uk Halifax :) all the best
awesome, thanks for the invite! I've been out to the UK a couple times now, I would love to go back!
I love your channel oss!
osssss thank you for watching!
Great job!
Thanks!
14:14 literally made me go "DAMN!" out loud, because that throw looked so cool
Awesome video man.
thank you! Appreciate you watching
Makes me wanting to come to such an event and try new art.
Love the sweater 😂❤!!
Very interesting!
Nice video! 🎉
As a BJJ white belt that trains very hard this was amazing to see and you did great
Amazing video!!! I love judo and bjj. These arts compliment each other.
In your opinion, it is better to learn judo or Brazilian jiu-jitsu
There are many factors to consider.Judo is a lot more affordable compared to BJJ. Judo has a high impact on the body and has more injuries.it would depend on your goals. Judo gives a better base because it focus on ukemi(falling). @@nassimbelallam8830
Judo.
Because bjj is kosen Judo.
Its just Judo nezwaza.
There is a reason why bjj guys train Judo.
Because bjj is the half art. A Marketing copy.
When you learn Judo you learn bjj.
No difference.
Except the Regulation System in competitions.
Bro that’s crazy there’s chuck Jefferson!!
I had a similar issue with grips when I took up judo after years of wrestling. I always wrestled with my left foot forward, so I keep my left hand down to defend my leg; which for judo left me with a wrong sided lapel grip all the time. It's interesting how different things are based solely on being able to grab the legs.
yeah super interesting... what was your fix? did you keep a left leg forward stance for judo or nah?
The stance is more related to the grips on the judogi, that are non existent in wrestling: when it was allowed taking the legs in judo, it wasn't so different putting a foot forward (right for right grips and left for left handed), it was necessary to put attention on not being too close to the partner with the leg
@@joshbeambjj I had the same problem coming from a muay thai, wrestling, and BJJ background. I ended up playing Judo right-handed and eventually got used to having my right foot forward. I couldn't imagine playing left-handed and turning the opposite direction. You seem much more comfortable right handed as well, even though your stance is backwards because you naturally turn the way a right-handed player would.
@@joshbeambjj I can't say that I really "fixed" it, I'm still working on constantly reminding myself how to grip after a year and a half. It's gotten easier to remember during drills when I have time to think, but during randori the muscle memory sometimes takes over and I end up doing throws from unorthodox positions or get thrown because I take up a more wrestling style stance.
Amazing content
Thanks a lot!
really cool video
Wow Josh cool video!
Very nice video, I hope next time you might consider another upload of the sparring but longer.
I wanted to see how hard you were resisting- because kumi kata (gripping) is a big part of judo. You might not realise how much they were positioning you and breaking your balance easier because of good gripping which set up the throws (which would be especially evident with Nancy and that smaller woman as they can’t use as much force as the men)
Always fun watching how good kumi kata can subtlety shut down an opponent
Big thing that's different from BJJ and Judo is the explosiveness of Judo. You can setup a chain of maneuvers, but when you go for the throw, you need speed and intensity to be fully committed.